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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or possibly less often, if the wiki's status is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 250: The Quarter-Millenial

Dr. Mario vs. Mewtwo

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Winner!!
undecided

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One's a clone in moveset, the other a clone in nature. Both missed out on Brawl and came back in SSB4 to much interest. Which wins this bout?

Votes for Dr. Mario

  1. Mewtwo is great, but I like Dr. Mario a tiny bit more. Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Mewtwo

  1. Remind me again why Dr. Mario was brought back? AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. Dr. Mario is easily the most extraneous character in Smash, period. Miles (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. You're kidding right? Mewtwo is leagues above doc. Serpent SKSig.png King 20:02, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. I personally found Mewtwo fairly fun to play in Melee (except for his stupid tail hurtbox :|), so I'll give the vote to him here. MetaKingSignature1.png#20MK MetaKingMetaKingSignature2.png 21:33, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  5. Mewtwo gets my vote! Made its return in Smash 4 after 14 years! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  6. Ah, a truly tragic tale to test a toneless tune. Mewtwo! A life borne of hate! Giovanni cloned the original Pokémon, Mew, into Mewtwo to be the ultimate warrior, and strong as it might be, its power was not its choice, nor was its existence. Mewtwo did not ask to be made, let alone into a machine of rage. Its struggle forced upon it, its only choice in its debut film is to learn to overcome its dictated genetics of violence, whereas we take any positive emotions and tendencies we can muster up for granted. It had to invent its own happiness, a task hardly accomplished, let alone possible, yet still eternally dreamt for. Worse yet, all we use it for in Super Smash Bros. is the sentence Giovanni condemned it to: to fight, to kill, to hurt, demanding that it relive its horrific life of terror every single match. We, as players, are no better than the father who cursed it with consciousness, simply by playing a game. What is there to say about it's opponent? He's a doctor? My word, that certainly is the harrowing story, and it by all definitions clearly and without doubt trounces upon Mewtwo's depression-wrought misery. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 23:14, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
  7. Smash 4 main, so easy pick. --Mr. Loser (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

Tomodachi Life vs. Find Mii

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Winner!!
undecided

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These two stages take place in two lands of the Mii with very different flavours - does the harmonious hotel or the menacing mountaintop bring in the votes?

Votes for Tomodachi Life

  1. They're both trash stages, but Tomodachi Life wins by a speck. Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. I enjoyed playing Tomodachi Life more than I did Find Mii. The stages are no different. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. Sounds like a fun stage for me! Miis everywhere! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. I think this one is more fun, but will count this as a half vote because I like the game better. 75.141.57.33 17:56, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Find Mii

  1. The soundtrack for Find Mii is astonishingly good. Miles (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. It has a stage boss, that means it's automatically better. --Vinc (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

Codec Conversations vs. Palutena's Guidance

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Winner!!
undecided

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Mission control contacts their special agent to relay absolutely critical information. Who gets the better leg-up?

Votes for Codec Conversations

  1. just Luigi's codec Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. Mei Ling, Samus took her clothes off!! Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 13:00, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. They called Meta Knight a narcissist... Like, WTF?! XD XD XD MetaKingSignature1.png#20MK MetaKingMetaKingSignature2.png 13:35, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. The faux-seriousness of these juxtaposed against the Smash roster was pretty fun. Miles (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  5. Best one here! Snake and the Metal Gear Solid team chat about the Brawl roster here! My favorite codec is Mario. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  6. Mei Ling, Samus took her clothes off! Serpent SKSig.png King 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Palutena's Guidance

  1. More Hilarious ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 14:44, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. I do enjoy some of the codecs, but Palutena's Guidance does the job much better. Uprising's constant dialogue strewn throughout the game was hilarious on its own, and this is certainly no different. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. More deep than Codec. It's also with characters I know and like more. Skittles03, the scummy fox main (talk) 16:49, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. See the votes above this one. --Vinc (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

Final Cutter vs. Aether

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Winner!!
undecided

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The idea of doing a super jump with your sword isn't exactly an uncommon move, but these two do it in a very different way. Which is better?

Votes for Final Cutter

  1. self-explanatory vote Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. I'm a Kirby Series bias to be honest XD, so this is another auto-vote from me. MetaKingSignature1.png#20MK MetaKingMetaKingSignature2.png 13:32, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. I'm a Kirby main. Also it makes more sense for Kirby to have such a move since he has more jumps and I kept SDing with Ike. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 14:44, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. As a fan of Kirby, I enjoy this move pretty well for him. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  5. I use Kirby more, so I have more experience with the move. Also it has a wave projectile. --Vinc (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Aether

  1. Joke's on you, Ryūtsuisen is better than both of them. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. Sword > Cutter anyway. Miles (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. What Miles said. Serpent SKSig.png King 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. Hits more than Cutter. Also aether is used again in a stronger form for Ike's final smash. 75.141.57.33 17:58, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

DK Rap vs. Ashley's Song

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Winner!!
undecided

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One track touts the powers of a bunch of simians, while the other goes on about one of Wario's comerades. Which self-promoting song jams harder?

Votes for DK Rap

  1. HE Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. At least this one is tolerable. I actually hate Ashley's song. It's one of those terrible ones that happen to be just so stupidly catchy that you end up with it in your head for the rest of the day. Serpent SKSig.png King 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. His coconut guns, can fire in spurts if he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt! Skittles03, the scummy fox main (talk) 16:48, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. Read the post above mine. --Vinc (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Ashley's Song

  1. I'm only voting on Ashley's Song here because the DK Rap in Smash is less admirable than the original one from DK64. Ashley's Song is the other way around (and even has an alternate (and objectively better) version as well). AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. Eh, both are overdone, but I prefer WarioWare to DK64 in general. Miles (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. Who's the girl next door living in the haunted mansion? You'd better learn my name 'cause I'm Ashley! Great song to use in Touched and here in Smash! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

Round 249: Lucina vs. Shulk

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Winner!!
Shulk
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They both wield donut-hilted swords and wish to use them to change an unwanted future - who can see how to reach the win?

Votes for Lucina

  1. It is I, the Chrome, from the Fire Embull! Give your father a hug Lasoona!Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 12:00, 5 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. No explanation needed from me, an obvious pick. ;) MetaKingSignature1.png20MK_MetaKing #20MKMetaKingSignature2.png 04:23, 6 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. She is amazing! Her attacks are great and I use her more then ANYONE! User: Mario Kart 7 Rules I'm working on it! (talk) 19:26, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. Lucina is awesome. No more explanation neccesary.Mapword (talk) 07:52, 24 August 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Shulk

  1. Smash Bros already has enough Fire Emblem characters and Lucina is nothing but a female Marth. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 17:44, 5 August 2017 (EDT)
  2. I simply find Shulk superior in so many ways. Both him and Lucina stopped a terrible fate, yes, but Shulk did it in a more godlike way (literally, but that's spoilers). You also feel more powerful overall when using Shulk in his series, with everything the Monado can do and Xenoblade's more action-based gameplay. Lastly, he brought a very creative character design to SSB4 (and you know, being good in competitive play is NOT EVERYTHING that makes a character worth), and one of my favorite up to this day. On the other hand, Lucina just... disguised after someone else and that's all. Smash doesn't help her case: her moveset is completely generic (Marth has a great mechanic going for him to make him interesting... yet Lucina specifically doesn't have that at all) and her playstyle is braindead to the point I know even people who like Lucina in her games that despise her SSB4 portrayal. 034.png DracoRex, Creator of the Land 11:27, 6 August 2017 (EDT)
  3. Per Draco, basically. Shulk is one of the most mechanically interesting characters; Lucina is the opposite of that. Zyrac sig.png Zyrac(talkcontribs) 18:11, 6 August 2017 (EDT)
  4. *insert obligatory "I'm really feeling it" comment here* AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 19:33, 6 August 2017 (EDT)
  5. Shulk, Riki, and Dunban from Xenoblade Chronicles! A great trio Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 17:20, 7 August 2017 (EDT)
  6. I really hate Lucina, so this is an automatic vote. Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 18:58, 7 August 2017 (EDT)
  7. What a Wonderful World ChuckNorris24.png  21:45, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
  8. Because Shulk is an original character, and Lucina is Marth but easier. Since the point or Marth (pun intended) is that he's tricky, why make him easier? 75.141.57.33 10:55, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
  9. Go Shulk, he's the best! He's the monado's power!
  10. Finally, a new swordsman IP that has a really cool personality from a really creative and interesting IP, Shulk also has a more intriguing and fun moveset, compared to Lucina,, who in most situations is a nerfed Marth,. I'll be honest, Lucina is obviously the better character on the tier list, which is a real shame because Shulk has potential (Quoting ZeRo by the way). Unfortunately there is a a complete underrepresentation of this awesome character though, and I'd do anything I could to push him up to the level of popularity he deserves! Skittles03, the scummy fox main (talk) 01:28, 18 August 2017 (EDT)
  11. If this was MARTH vs. Shulk, then I would be in the former's favor. But Lucina does not have anything really beneficial about her, and I'm a boy, so go, Shulk. Iron Gladiator (talk) 09:39, 19 August 2017 (EDT)
  12. I'M REALLY SMASHING IT! Did I say that right? Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 09:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
  13. Xenoblade was fun, and Shulk is a bit more interesting to play as. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 08:15, 24 August 2017 (EDT)

Comments

How long do we wait for new Smash Arena rounds? It's been two weeks already. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 23:52, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

I've been having internet problems lately. Normally, I might just try updating at a weird time or in a strange way to get around it, but in case you forgot (and who would blame you), next round is a big one and needs to be done properly. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Resolute 08:55, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
Oh I see, the next one is a milestone so it must have five matches. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 11:02, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

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