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*{{change|[[Dark Dive]] now has a altered animation with one hand as opposed to two, and it produces more spectacular visual effects, with a noticeably larger finishing explosion.}} | *{{change|[[Dark Dive]] now has a altered animation with one hand as opposed to two, and it produces more spectacular visual effects, with a noticeably larger finishing explosion.}} | ||
*{{buff|Aerial [[Wizard's Foot]] is interruptible much sooner, giving Ganondorf much greater leniency to successfully recover after using it offstage when edge-guarding, and when using it to mixup recovery. This also allows it to be used over ground from not as high up without going into its laggy landing animation.}} | *{{buff|Aerial [[Wizard's Foot]] is interruptible much sooner, giving Ganondorf much greater leniency to successfully recover after using it offstage when edge-guarding, and when using it to mixup recovery. This also allows it to be used over ground from not as high up without going into its laggy landing animation.}} | ||
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*{{nerf|Beast Ganon's power has been reduced, no longer being a [[one-hit KO]].}} | *{{nerf|Beast Ganon's power has been reduced, no longer being a [[one-hit KO]].}} | ||
Revision as of 13:17, February 24, 2015
Ganondorf in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Universe | The Legend of Zelda |
Other playable appearances | in Melee in Brawl |
Availability | Unlockable (3DS) Starter (Wii U) |
Final Smash | Beast Ganon |
Ganondorf (ガノンドロフ, Ganondorf) was officialy revealed as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4 on October 15th, 2014, alongside R.O.B.. Prior to this, Ganondorf was leaked via leaked videos from footage used by ESRB to rate the game, accidentally shown in an official video, where he appeared outside the boundaries of the screen while Pikachu taunted, before the trailer was replaced with a nearly-identical video which does not include Ganondorf, and he was also shown in Twitch.tv streams before being unveiled, and on October 10th 2014, Sakurai mentioned Ganondorf in the Pic of the day, which means he was leaked four times (twice by official material) prior to his official announcement.
Visually, he retains his Twilight Princess design, but with his glowing chest wound from that game clearly visible and a more tattered cape. He is additionally significantly more brighter colored, and his hair is a slightly brighter color of orange. His appearance in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U marks his first time as a starter character.
How to unlock
- Play 80 VS Matches.
- Clear Classic Mode as Link or Zelda on difficulty 5.0 or higher.
Ganondorf must then be defeated in Gerudo Valley.
Ganondorf does not have to be unlocked on the Wii U version.
Changes from Brawl
Given that Ganondorf was infamously the worst character in Brawl, he has received many buffs, with comparatively few nerfs. Ganondorf also significantly benefits from the general changes of Smash 4, in particular the general nerf of campable projectiles, the removal of chain throws, and the introduction of edge-stealing, with the latter preventing Ganondorf's poor recovery from being edge-hogged, while Ganondorf is one of the characters who can most effectively exploit the new mechanic to edge-guard opponents. He also benefits largely from the rage mechanic.
With customs on, Ganondorf additionally gets more of his faults addressed. Most notably, with the Wizard's Dropkick and Dark Fists customs, Ganondorf's recovery goes from the worst to one of the better recoveries in the game. The Wizard's Dropkick can also allow Ganondorf to go above projectiles while simultaneously attacking, giving Ganondorf an effective anti-projectile option.
He is still a semi-clone of Captain Falcon with no new decloning in his default moveset, but he was given completely different custom options in his cloned special moves, giving him some potential to be set farther apart.
Overall Ganondorf still possesses the general flaws he had in Brawl, though outside recovery they're less significant, while his strengths are even greater, making him an overall more viable character. With customs on to improve his poor recovery, Ganondorf's viability increases significantly.
Attributes
- Ganondorf is overall a faster character.
- Ganondorf is slightly heavier than he was in Brawl.
- Ganondorf's darkness attacks produce more saturated visual effects.
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack has slightly faster start-up lag.
- Forward tilt has faster start-up, decreased ending lag, and slightly greater reach, while retaining its powerful semi-spike knockback, making it significantly more useful as a spacing tool while retaining its deadly punishing capability.
- Up tilt's sourspot hitboxes are more powerful, with all sourspot hitboxes of the move now reliably KOing under 75%, while the sweetspot can still KO under 50%. The move additionally deals drastically increased shield damage in all its hitboxes, allowing it to instant shatter even full shields. The explosion also covers even greater range, which when combined with the new airdodge and ledge mechanics, makes the move much easier to trap opponents with.
- Down tilt has faster start-up lag and increased reach, as well dealing 1% more damage with slightly increased knockback.
- Dash attack deals 1% less damage and less knockback, making it a bit less effective at KOing (though it can still reliably KO over 150%).
- Combined with the previous point, the removal of hitstun cancelling gives the dash attack's sourspot newfound ability as a combo starter.
- Ganondorf no longer lunges farther when forward smash is pivoted, decreasing its reach.
- Up smash has faster start-up lag, and has significantly increased horizontal reach, allowing it to now hit opponents in front of Ganondorf. Both its sweetspot and sourspot hitboxes also deal 2% more damage and stronger knockback.
- While the front kick of down smash deals 1% less damage, the back kick deals 4% more damage, resulting in the attack dealing increased damage if either both kicks connect or just the back kick.
Aerial attacks
- Neutral aerial has faster start-up lag, while the first hit deals 1% more damage, and 2% more for the second. It also has less landing lag
- Forward aerial has slightly faster start-up and ending lag, and significantly decreased landing lag, restoring usefulness similar to the move's Melee counterpart. The sweetspot also covers a larger portion of Ganondorf's arm, making it easier to land with the move's sweetspot instead of the sourspot.
- Forward aerial's base knockback and knockback scaling are now moderately low and high, respectively. This makes it a bit less effective at KOing on ledges, but makes the move KO more reliably from center and on heavier characters.
- Back aerial deals 1% more damage and greater knockback. It also has less landing lag
- Up aerial has decreased landing lag.
- Down aerial was weakened, dealing 3% less damage with decreased base knockback, though it's still by far the most powerful meteor smash and aerial attack, and can still KO grounded opponents around 100% due to its very high knockback scaling. Its sourspot also now hits horizontally instead of meteor smashing, and it can no longer autocancel in a short hop, removing its easy combo starting abilities.
- Down aerial has slightly less landing lag, though not enough to compensate for the loss of the short hop autocancelling. The new sourspot also allows the move to KO over-stage opponents that the meteor smash would simply knock into the ground. Additionally, the move significantly benefits from the new frame cancel, which can allow it to start combos even more effectively than it did in previous games if the player is frame-precise with the move.
Grabs and throws
- Ganondorf's pummel deals 3% instead of 2% damage.
- Both Ganondorf's up and down throws have decreased knockback scaling, increasing Ganondorf's capability to follow them up. The former also has slightly less ending lag.
Special moves
- Warlock Punch is even more powerful when reversed, dealing 4% more damage and being able to KO lighter characters under 10 % near the ledge. It also now has super armor during its start-up, though only if initiated on the ground, and it loses its armor when Ganondorf punches or if Ganondorf reverses it.
- A non-reversed Warlock Punch is weaker, dealing 2% less damage, and being survivable to around 50%.
- Both grounded and aerial versions of Flame Choke deal 3% more damage, and the general start-up decrease of Ganondorf's moves give the grounded version more guaranteed followups. When Ganoncided with, the opponent is now always KO'd before Ganondorf, instead of at the same time or after, meaning Ganondorf will always win if he lands a Ganoncide on the opponent's last stock.
- The grounded version of Flame Choke can now be teched, though Ganondorf still has significant frame advantage if the opponent techs, giving him followups if he reads the tech. The removal of grab armor makes Ganonciding slightly more difficult to pull off (and thus less of a deterrent against edgeguarding Ganondorf).
- Aerial Flame Choke carries Ganondorf and his opponent airborne a bit before the descent.
- Opponents can no longer attack Ganondorf as he releases them from Dark Dive.
- The removal of grab armor removes the minimal protection Dark Dive provided, which when combined with the previous point about Flame Choke, makes Ganondorf overall even easier to edgeguard offstage than it was in Brawl.
- Dark Dive now has a altered animation with one hand as opposed to two, and it produces more spectacular visual effects, with a noticeably larger finishing explosion.
- Aerial Wizard's Foot is interruptible much sooner, giving Ganondorf much greater leniency to successfully recover after using it offstage when edge-guarding, and when using it to mixup recovery. This also allows it to be used over ground from not as high up without going into its laggy landing animation.
Final smash
- Beast Ganon's power has been reduced, no longer being a one-hit KO.
Moveset
Name | Damage | Description | ||
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Neutral attack | 8% (hand), 6% (arm), 4% (body) | Leans in with a palm strike. Ganondorf's fastest attack, with decent range and knockback. | ||
Forward tilt | rowspan="1" | 13% (foot), 12% (leg) | Leans back while forcefully thrusting one leg forward. Fairly quick start-up, with great knockback at a semi-spike trajectory. A powerful edgeguarding move against characters with little horizontal recovery. | |
Up tilt | rowspan="1" | 28% (leg), 20%/18% (explosion) | Ganondorf lifts his leg up then holds it in place until smashing it down in an explosion. Has vacuum properties. Incredibly powerful, being able to instantly shatter full shields and KO at low percentages when near the ledge, but has laughable startup lag making it a high risk high reward move. Due to this, it rarely sees use in higher levels of play making it useful for mindgames as it can catch the opponent off guard. It is one of Ganondorf's best edgeguard attacks if used correctly. | |
Down tilt | rowspan="1" | 13% | Kneels on one leg and thrusts the other leg forward. Good start-up, range and power with vertical knockback. | |
Dash attack | 14% (clean), 10% (late) | Charges at the opponent and rams into them. Ganondorf gains a quick speed boost during the move. Low base knockback, but a fairly high knockback scaling, being able to KO at very high percentages. | ||
Forward smash | 24% | Thrusts his elbow forward, dealing darkness damage on contact. Relatively slow start-up and high cool down, but its extreme knockback is capable of KO'ing under 100%. Hitting closer to Ganondorf deals slightly higher knockback, but the same damage. Can be angled. | ||
Up smash | 24% (leg), 21% (body) | Forcefully swings his leg up. Has some start-up but surprisingly little cool down because of its interruptibility. Extremely powerful when used against aerial opponents, capable of KO'ing under 100%. Has small hitbox directly in front of him if he is too far away for the kick to hit. | ||
Down smash | 6% (hit 1), 15%/13% (hit 2) | Kicks his leg in front and then behind him. The first kick has low knockback to naturally combo into the second kick, which has the most damage and knockback. Ganondorf's weakest smash attack, but can be used to punish a roll. | ||
Neutral aerial | rowspan="1" | 12% (hit 1 clean), 7% (hit 1 late), 9% (hit 2 clean), 5% (hit 2 late) | Two quick mid-air kicks. The first hit deals the most damage and knockback, making it impractical to combo into the second hit above extremely low percent. Some landing lag if not used in a full hop. | |
Forward aerial | rowspan="1" | 17% (fist), 16% (arm) | An overhead punch in a downwards arc. Very powerful with decent start-up. Suffers from high landing lag even when used with a full hop. | |
Back aerial | 17% (fist), 16% (arm) | A back-handed punch. Relatively fast start-up with power that slightly surpasses even his forward aerial. Has little cool down with decent landing lag. While it auto cancels in a short hop, its high vertical hitbox makes it unable to hit most grounded opponents. | ||
Up aerial | 13%/12% (clean), 12%/10% (mid), 8%/6% (late) | An overhead flip kick, covering a large arc above him. Fast start-up, good coverage with great power. Deals more damage and knockback when it hits closer to Ganondorf. The last few frames of this attack is a weak semi-spike with extremely low horizontal knockback. Has little cool down with decent landing lag, and can auto cancel into a short hop. | ||
Down aerial | 19% (legs), 17% (body) | Stomps his legs downward, dealing electric damage. The move is an extremely powerful meteor smash if hit with the lower half of his body. There is a sour spot on his shoulder that hits horizontally with less damage, but is still extremely powerful (stronger than his forward and back aerial at higher percentages). Has little cool down, but high landing lag unless used with a full hop. All hitboxes have transcendent priority. | ||
Grab | — | A short ranged grab. Pivot grab has better range but suffers from cool down. | ||
Pummel | 3% | Knees the opponent. A moderately slow pummel. | ||
Forward throw | 5% (hit 1), 8% (throw) | Lifts his opponent up, then punches them in the midsection. High damage for a throw with good knockback. Good for setting up a meteor smash down aerial. | ||
Back throw | 5% (hit 1), 5% (throw) | Lifts his opponent behind him and kicks them. Decent knockback, sets up an edgeguard well. Moderate ending lag severely decreases ground combo potential. | ||
Up throw | 4% (hit 1), 3% (throw) | Holds opponent above him, then punches them upwards. High base knockback, but low scaling. | ||
Down throw | 7% | Throws his opponent violently on the ground. A weak throw with very low knockback scaling, making it useful for setting up into other moves. | ||
Forward roll Back roll Spot dodge Air dodge |
— | — | ||
Techs | — | — | ||
Floor attack (front) Floor getups (front) |
7% | Spins his left foot around him on both sides in a breakdance like fashion. | ||
Floor attack (back) Floor getups (back) |
7% | Swings his right foot over his head as he gets up. | ||
Floor attack (trip) Floor getups (trip) |
5% | Spins around to kick those who are near. | ||
Edge attack Edge getups |
8% | Gets up with a horizontal left back hand to the opponent. | ||
Neutral special | Default | Warlock Punch | 30% (ground), 37% (ground reverse), 38% (air), 40% (air reverse) | Winds up a large amount of darkness and releases it all in a a powerful forward backfist. A player can pull off a 180° punch by turning in the opposite direction during the charging period, however this increases the moves wind up duration. It receives a significant damage bonus if used in the air or turned 180°, and these bonuses do stack, so a reverse aerial Warlock Punch is powerful enough to OHKO characters near the ledge. Has super armor until just before the punch, unless used in the air or reversed. |
Custom 1 | Warlock Blade | 22%/18% (ground), 24%/20% (ground reverse), 24%/20% (air), 26%/22% (air reverse) | Ganondorf pulls out his sword and thrusts it forwards. Deals less damage overall than Warlock Punch, but has greater range, faster startup, and a powerful sweetspot at the tip of the sword. Has super armor until just before the stab, unless used in the air or reversed. Deals greatly increased shield damage, with the sweetspot being able to instantly shatter a full shield. All hitboxes have transcendent priority. | |
Custom 2 | Warlock Thrust | 16%/9% (normal), 19%/12% (reverse) | A faster punch that deals explosive damage, though the opponent must be very close to get the full extent of the damage. Suffers from extreme ending lag. | |
Side special | Default | Flame Choke | 12% (ground throw), 15% (air throw), 4% (release) | Boosts forward with his hand extended out. Upon contact he grabs onto the opponent and attacks them with darkness before slamming them into the ground (though an opponent can tech the hit to avoid guaranteed follow-ups). In the air, Ganondorf grabs onto and descents alongside the opponent before slamming them into the ground, or to the lower blast line in a suicide KO if used off-stage. This works as a grab move, and as such works through shields and counters. Also can be used for short horizontal recovery, as it grabs onto the ledge. |
Custom 1 | Flame Wave | 8% (ground hit 1), 10% (air hit 1), 10% (throw), 4% (release) | Boosts forward with his hand extended out. Upon contact, he launches them into the air after grabbing them, dealing two hits, with the second having vertical knockback. | |
Custom 2 | Flame Chain | 1.2% (loop hits), 5% (last hit) | Boosts forward with his hand extended out. Upon contact, he strikes them with a series of attacks, leading up to a decent knockback finish. It also provides very long range, and even a bit of traction on the ground, but cannot grab. Hits 10 times on ground, but 7 times in the air. | |
Up special | Default | Dark Dive | 1% (hits 1-4), 8% (throw), 7% (uppercut), 6% (release) | Ganondorf latches onto an opponent and unleashes electricity onto them before launching them with an explosion. Covers a very small amount of horizontal distance, but a decent amount of vertical making it a subpar recovery. If he successfully lands this move against an opponent, he doesn't fall helpless and can use it again. Ganondorf will perform an uppercut with weak knockback and darkness properties if this move misses an opponent. |
Custom 1 | Dark Fists | 6% (hit 1), 11% (hit 2) | Ganondorf launches himself into the air with a rising fist, followed by another uppercut at the height of his jump. He cannot grab opponents with this move, but he can chain the two uppercuts into each other, dealing very high knockback at moderate damages. It is considered the best recovery move due to its somewhat slow start-up allowing for better horizontal reach, and higher vertical distance. Has super armor on startup. | |
Custom 2 | Dark Vault | 4% (throw), 6% (release) | Ganondorf travels much higher, but can only grab opponents at the very beginning or end of the move. It deals very poor knockback, and cannot move far once activated. However, he jumps much, much higher than before. | |
Down special | Default | Wizard's Foot | 12%/10% (ground), 15%/14% (air), 8% (landing) | Surrounded by darkness, Ganondorf launches himself while extending his leg out, dealing decent damage and knockback (but lots of cool down). In the air, Ganondorf launches diagonally downwards while extending his leg out below him. A powerful meteor smash during start-up, with a late hit sending opponents vertically instead (though it is still very powerful, capable of killing on the stage at standard kill percents, and as low as 60% if it connects against an aerial opponent). A small shockwave is formed around Ganondorf when he lands on the ground, which has small amount of knockback. Slows down significantly on impact with anything, has a lot of landing lag, and is extremely risky to use off stage. |
Custom 1 | Wizard's Dropkick | 9%/7% (ground), 11%/8%/9%/7% (air), 6% (landing) | Ganondorf jumps into the air before performing the kick. It has decent knockback, and is especially great to use as a recovery tool in the air, due to its great horizontal distance. Aerial version is a kill move near the ledge or off the stage. Can be used both to come back to the stage, and to avoid juggles if launched. Is a true combo out of Down Throw until mid-high percent. A downside is that it doesn't meteor, and has significantly reduced vertical kill power, though it can more safely be used for edge guarding. Very little cool down if used on the ground. | |
Custom 2 | Wizard's Assault | 10%/9% (ground), 14%/12% (air), 6% (landing) | Ganondorf shoots forwards with a faster kick that goes through opponents and travels straight down when used in the air, with the grounded attack sending opponents behind Ganondorf. It has a slower start-up, but does not slow down on impact, and is very dangerous if used in the air. It can meteor. | |
Final Smash | Beast Ganon | 10%/5% (appearance), 10% (paralyze), 40%/30% (charge) | Ganondorf becomes his beast form and rams into the opponent. Opponents too close upon initiation are buried, while those otherwise in front will be paralyzed. Usually a one-hit KO. |
Taunts
- Up: Floats in the air, curls into a ball, spins, opens up from his curled position and poses, all while laughing maniacally. (Same as in Melee)
- Side: Punches his hands together, and dark energy appears.
- Down: Takes his sword out, dark energy pulses from the tip, looks at it, then puts it away.
On-Screen Appearance
Emerges from a portal of dark magic.
Victory Fanfare
A flourished remix directly from Brawl. It is a remix of the tune that will play when Link obtained a Triforce Piece in The Legend of Zelda for the Nintendo Entertainment System. It is shared with Link, Zelda, Sheik, and Toon Link.
Trophies
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS trophy descriptions
Ganondorf's regular trophy can be obtained by completing Classic Mode and his alternative trophy can be obtained by completing All-Star mode.
- Ganondorf
- NA: The King of Evil that awaits Link at the end of most of his adventures. Ganondorf possesses the Triforce of Power. In Smash Bros., he makes up for his low speed with devastating power. The strength of his blows can knock back most opponents. Get close with a dash attack, and pummel your foes!
- PAL: The King of Evil is Link's arch-nemesis in most games in the Legend of Zelda series. With the Triforce of Power at his disposal, he's a fearsome opponent. In this game, his mighty attacks have so much impact, they easily make up for his slow speed, and his launching ability is extra impressive! Rush in when the enemy's open and strike hard.
- Ganondorf (Alt.)
- NA: Being the powerhouse that he is, the King of Evil is a great choice for free-for-alls. His Warlock Punch delivers a thunderous, dark-energy-fueled blow from his left hand. Unfortunately, left-handed dark-energy-fueled blows take some time to charge. You can turn to face someone as they cowardly try to hit you from behind.
- PAL: Being the powerhouse that he is, the King of Evil is a great choice for free-for-alls. His Warlock Punch focuses dark energy into his left hand to deliver a thunderous back-hander. Unfortunately, focusing all that energy takes time. If someone sneaks behind you just as you start the move, quickly try to turn around.
- GanondorfTrophy3DS1.png
Classic
- GanondorfTrophy3DS2.png
Alt.
Update history
- Landing lag on all aerial attacks has been reduced, with neutral aerial having a moderate decrease while the rest of his aerials had a slight decrease.
- Aerial Flame Choke can no longer be teched, restoring the move's offensive useability.
Alternate costumes
Gallery
On Battlefield.
Using Flame Choke on Link on Final Destination.
Being attacked by Meta Knight and Pit.
Using Wizard's Foot on Robin and Marth.
Using his Final Smash on Link and Lucina.
Fighting with Link in Gerudo Valley.
Trivia
- In previous Super Smash Bros. appearances, Ganondorf has a sword in some aesthetic capacity, whether that be in his artwork or one of his victory poses in Super Smash Bros. Melee, or in one of his taunts in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Super Smash Bros. 4 is the first entry in the series to have Ganondorf actually utilize his sword, albeit in a custom neutral special move.
- Ganondorf's mouth does not open all the way, leaving small marks at the sides of his mouth that remain still.
Fighters in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Veterans | Bowser · Captain Falcon · Charizard · Diddy Kong · Donkey Kong · Dr. Mario · Falco · Fox · Ganondorf · Ike · Jigglypuff · King Dedede · Kirby · Link · Lucario · Lucas · Luigi · Mario · Marth · Meta Knight · Mewtwo · Mr. Game & Watch · Ness · Olimar · Peach · Pikachu · Pit · R.O.B. · Roy · Samus · Sheik · Sonic · Toon Link · Wario · Yoshi · Zelda · Zero Suit Samus |
Newcomers | Bayonetta · Bowser Jr. · Cloud · Corrin · Dark Pit · Duck Hunt · Greninja · Little Mac · Lucina · Mega Man · Mii Fighter (Mii Brawler · Mii Gunner · Mii Swordfighter) · Pac-Man · Palutena · Robin · Rosalina & Luma · Ryu · Shulk · Villager · Wii Fit Trainer |