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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or two weeks, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
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Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
==Round 234: [[Sing]] vs. [[Rest]]==
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==Round 233: [[Negative Zone]] vs. [[Peach Blossom]]==
==Round 233: [[Negative Zone]] vs. [[Peach Blossom]]==
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When's this going to end? Just saying, I think we know the winner. I don't mean to break Rule 12 or anything, but yeah. [[User:Weegee Number 1!|Weegee Number 1!]] ([[User talk:Weegee Number 1!|talk]]) 21:17, 21 January 2015 (EST)
When's this going to end? Just saying, I think we know the winner. I don't mean to break Rule 12 or anything, but yeah. [[User:Weegee Number 1!|Weegee Number 1!]] ([[User talk:Weegee Number 1!|talk]]) 21:17, 21 January 2015 (EST)
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==Round 232: [[Onett]] vs. [[Fourside]]==
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===Votes for ''Onett''===
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#I prefer Onett, mainly because I've never played Fourside. I actually like Magicant best though. XD [[Special:Contributions/72.105.74.179|72.105.74.179]] 10:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#Onett is better because Onett. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 10:26, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#After almost a 6 month hiatus, we finally get to vote again in a new round on Smash Arena. I can't wait for the three way smash games round because I would love to hear everyone's opinions on the three games (although Melee might win over Brawl this time though. :P). Anyways, I vote for Onett because Pollyanna is my favorite music in the EarthBound franchise. The music and the stage itself reminds me of my life back in California. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Calvin and Hobbes 10:39, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#You can't accidentally fall down between buildings here. 'Nuff said. [[User:Takava|Takava]] ([[User talk:Takava|talk]]) 16:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#What Takava said. Plus, I like the music in it better, and the fact that it appears in 3 Smash games is more than enough to prove that it is better. :P [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 16:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#I've (sadly) never played Melee, so I'll have to give it to Onett. Als- OH NO THE TAXI [[User:RosalinaU|RosalinaU]] ([[User talk:RosalinaU|talk]]) 22:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#You can play Smiles and Tears here in SSB4, not to mention the Onett Winters Theme. 'Nuff said. [[User:SSBBNess|<span style="color: blue;">'''SSBBNess'''</span>]] ([[User talk:SSBBNess|<span style="color: orange;">talk</span>]]) [[File:SSBBNess sig image.png]] 08:47, 14 December 2014 (EST)
# it has been here since melee. {[[User:Psychninja14|Psychninja14]] ([[User talk:Psychninja14|talk]]) 18:52, 14 December 2014 (EST)}
#It's appeared in every game. Plus it's harder to die on. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 19:01, 14 December 2014 (EST)
# Never played melee [[Special:Contributions/106.68.17.161|106.68.17.161]] 04:11, 15 December 2014 (EST)
#@Nutta Butta: Super Smash Bros. says hi. Anyway, I like Onett due to the sign that talks about the black van being driven by "this guy" racing around town. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 11:07, 15 December 2014 (EST)
#The music is way better, and I just like the overall atmosphere more. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  17:57, 19 December 2014 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/124.187.244.67|124.187.244.67]] 01:14, 22 December 2014 (EST)
#I like the music. (In EB, that is.) Plus it's the first stage in the series, and I just like the location. [[User:Darrman|Darrman]] ([[User talk:Darrman|talk]]) 13:30, 24 December 2014 (EST)
#I like it for having no lower blast line at all. After all the matches I viewed in the past, it's not like anyone needs a lower blast line for KOs. [[Special:Contributions/67.166.228.195|67.166.228.195]] 19:52, 29 December 2014 (EST)
#I perfer Onett since its the most common returning stage plus I like the stage hazards on it, makes it useful to bari someone then let the cars bump into them. ([[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 18:57, 1 January 2015 (EST))
#one word: ATMOSPERE![[Special:Contributions/50.32.224.193|50.32.224.193]] 21:24, 4 January 2015 (EST)
#never played melee so... [[Special:Contributions/68.109.75.101|68.109.75.101]] 19:08, 6 January 2015 (EST)
#Watch out for the Black Van! [[User:The Iliad|The Iliad]] ([[User talk:The Iliad|talk]]) 19:30, 9 January 2015 (EST)
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#I think Onett is more classical to EarthBound Series <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:186.144.159.18|186.144.159.18]] ([[User talk:186.144.159.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/186.144.159.18|contribs]]) 09:48, 13 December 2014</small>
#Both maps are pretty tedious, but occasionally fun when you're not taking the game seriously. I guess the [[List_of_SSB4_Music_(EarthBound_series)#Pollyanna_.28I_Believe_In_You.29|Pollyanna arrangement]] with the secondary soundtrack is the tie breaker for me.--[[User:Dinodomain|Dinodomain]] ([[User talk:Dinodomain|talk]]) 02:39, 16 December 2014 (EST)
#I prefer Onett because I am a wario main and he performs well on this stage:) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:71.80.93.216|71.80.93.216]] ([[User talk:71.80.93.216|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.80.93.216|contribs]]) 21:31, 19 December 2014 (EST)</small>
#I love the music and the background... and pretty much everything else. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:67.188.69.248|67.188.69.248]] ([[User talk:67.188.69.248|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.188.69.248|contribs]]) 13:31, 20 December 2014 (EST)</small>
#I love this stage, MAH BOI.... the music, the graphics, the colors, everything! Sure, Fourside looks cool and is pretty classic to EarthBound, but Onett is ***COOLER AND MUCH MORE CLASSIC!***  <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PK Arby|PK Arby]] ([[User talk:PK Arby|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PK Arby|contribs]]) 16:31, 21 December 2014 (EST)</small>
#I've never really liked either of these stages, so I'll put my half-vote here because the music sounds cool.<font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 15:24, 29 December 2014 (EST)
#I've never played on Fourside, but frankly, compared to the other Earthbound stages, it doesn't seem that interesting. Onett seems more inviting, and just all-around awesome. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.43.8.126|68.43.8.126]] ([[User talk:68.43.8.126|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.43.8.126|contribs]]) 09:26, 29 December 2014 (EST)</small>
#I vote for Onett, because I actually like how you are forced to stick to the buildings & trees to avoid the cars. Plus, it has a more fun atmosphere. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:108.68.4.20|108.68.4.20]] ([[User talk:108.68.4.20|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/108.68.4.20|contribs]]) 18:28, 4 January 2015 (EST)</small>
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#I feel that the cars of Onett force players to avoid/utilize its ground area excessively, changing normal gameplay mechanics. I still like both stages, though; I merely prefer Fourside. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 00:40, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#It hasn't refused to go away. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 02:13, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#It has a better aesthetic design, as well as being overall less campy(though not by much). I wish it would make a return.[[Special:Contributions/71.108.116.197|71.108.116.197]] 03:10, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#This stage doesn't have walk-offs. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 08:06, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#Though I never played on Fourside, I've seen it in action. It looks better aesthetically. Here's to hoping it comes back! [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 10:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#Foursode is less annoying (dang cars) more interesting visually and just more fun overall[[User:The Omega Smasher|The Omega Smasher]] ([[User talk:The Omega Smasher|talk]]) 19:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#I prefer stages that aren't walk-off. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:33, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#I personally find Onett to be a rather annoying stage due to the cars, and the overall cramped space. I don't have much to say about Fourside, but I do find it better. '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|Going :|O]] [[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|around the clock!]] 12:28, 14 December 2014 (EST)
#I've never really liked any of the EarthBound stages in the Smash series (with the exception of [[Magicant|this one]]). In all honesty, however, I'd choose Fourside over [[Onett|the]] [[New Pork City|others]] in an instant. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 12:57, 14 December 2014 (EST)
#I was going to say exactly what FaLo said o3o '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' 19:19, 14 December 2014 (EST)
#Onett is a frustrating, campy, cramped stage that was never fun for me to play on, even back in my younger days. Fourside has a pretty interesting geometry and isn't a walk-off. I don't get why Onett keeps getting brought back. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 19:21, 14 December 2014 (EST)
#Fourside is a lot more fun to play on, and the scenery is slightly more pleasing. Onett can be annoying at times, especially when you're trying to maintain your ground in between the houses. There are also those overhangs actually being able to block jumps in ''Brawl'', which makes escaping infinite jabs and chain throws just about impossible. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 05:45, 15 December 2014 (EST)
#Onett is way too cramped. Not very suitable for battle. This is probably the best Earthbound stage  in my opinion, excluding [[Magicant]]. [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:55, 15 December 2014 (EST)
#Bigger, no hazards, better for competitive play (which Melee was focused on a little), and just better overall. [[User:Derpguy 64|Derpguy 64]] ([[User talk:Derpguy 64|talk]]) 12:16, 15 December 2014 (EST)Derpguy 64
#I can pronounce its name. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 04:53, 17 December 2014 (EST)
#This stage should've been in Brawl and SSB4. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 08:04, 17 December 2014 (EST)
#I never really liked Onett for the sheer fact of it being brought back two too many times than I cared for, and the stage was pretty lackluster, with the cars being the only thing that saves it from being forgotten for me. Fourside, however was a stage that, despite its size, was fun to play on no matter when. Except for that event, Space travelers. [[User:AtomicGameAndWatch|AtomicGameAndWatch]] ([[User talk:AtomicGameAndWatch|talk]]) 17:36, 17 December 2014 (EST)
#I like Fourside, and I would have liked to see it as a familiar stage in Brawl. Mainly because it has so many camping spots. >:D [[User:The Arnge|The Arnge]] [[File:GreenMega.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:The Arnge|I'm no rubble monkey!]] 13:41, 18 December 2014 (EST)
#I've only ever seen this in fan games (Super Smash Flash 2), but I really like the design and lack of cars. '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 09:30, 19 December 2014 (EST)
#--[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 09:52, 22 December 2014 (EST)
#Vote [[File:353.png]] [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="deeppink">'''Mes'''</font>]][[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="yellow">'''ux'''</font><font color="darkblue">'''elf'''</font>]] 09:18, 24 December 2014 (EST)
#Would have much rather this be in Sm4sh than Onett - this one feels a LOT more viable for 8-player mode. [[Special:Contributions/86.190.59.122|86.190.59.122]] 08:31, 31 December 2014 (EST)
# i think fourside is awesome because of the epic colors and the size. i don't like onett because of the wierdo-drivers and the little banner thingies on the drug store.  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 21:50, 5 January 2015 (EST)
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#Fourside is a cool stage, Onett is a really fun stage. Both are very frustrating for different reasons. Onett has walk-off KOs and powerful stage hazards, as well as a layout that can lead to Up-Smash/tilt camping. Fourside has narrow holes (making it especially frustrating for its sole character; Ness), a spaceship platform that's obviously been waxed, and a layout and length that promotes all types of camping. For their good traits, there are many. Onett for example, has a good lay-out for 6-8 player smashes (one of the best in the game imo), good music, and just a fun atmosphere. But, I'm voting for Fourside because it has BETTER music, a real cool atmosphere (think Saphron City, but larger, more realistic and at night with aliens), would've been a great 8-player smash stage, and it has aliens, dammit! How cool is that? However, considering all things, I can only bring myself to give Fourside a half vote, as Onett gets a very close second in my book. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 12:52, 13 December 2014 (EST)
#Watching the AI kill itself is pretty amusing.  [[Special:Contributions/32.211.91.106|32.211.91.106]] 17:56, 13 December 2014 (EST)
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or possibly less often, if the wiki's status is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 234: Sing vs. Rest

Jigglypuff Sing Smash 3DS.jpg
Winner!!
undecided

~ to ~
Jigglypuff Rest Smash 3DS.jpg
Two moves that harness the power of drowziness to do completely different things - which snoozes the other?

Votes for Sing

Votes for Rest

Comments

Round 233: Negative Zone vs. Peach Blossom

Negative Zone - Brawl Trophy.png
Winner!!
Negative Zone
Negative Zone - Brawl Trophy.png

29.5 to 8
Peach Blossom - Brawl Trophy.png
Rather than direct damage, these two Final Smashes focus on status shenanigans. Which overwhelms the other?

Votes for Negative Zone

This Final Smash is just ridiculous in every way, and I'm sad they changed it in SSB4. 173.62.160.215 10:34, 27 January 2015 (EST)

  1. Lol. FirstaLasto 12:09, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Man, this trophy is just plain weird. :/ Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Heavy Weapons Guy 12:12, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. Negative Zone is the best. Smashworker101 (talk) 12:23, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. Lol, I don't like Peach! MeatBall104; The Bikini Inspector! >:D 12:30, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Now what can beat the best Final Smash in the series? Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  6. This is pretty great. Imagine being able to do this in everyday life, like when you're stuck in a line, trapped in a crowd, trying to kidnap someone, or being kidnapped yourself. Also, this section was at the top. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 19:08, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Luigi Power 4ever. (Psychninja14 (talk) 11:55, 11 January 2015 (EST))
  8. In my opinion this is just a one-sided battle. This one is more affective, despite the fact that it has a set range, this one affects people even in mid-air, whereas Peach's Blossoms are relatively easy to avoid, and if you do avoid it (which any experienced smash player will) then you can steal her peaches. 72.105.76.48 13:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  9. Negative Zone! Negative Zone! Igor the Mii (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  10. Peach Blossom sucks. AW402 (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  11. Negative Zone can actually change the course of the game. Definitely one of the better Final Smashes. What can Peach Blossom do? Put you to sleep. Nuff said. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 23:09, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  12. I find the metaphor of Negative Zone to be quite interesting. Luigi has forever lived in the shadow of his brother, Mario, putting him in a depressed state. Mario has been featured in countless eponymous games while Luigi has had few, if any. I see Negative Zone as a physical manifestation of Luigi's sadness. Because Luigi's sadness is so vast and expansive, his Final Smash actually imposes his own pain and misery unto his opponents, for no one would willingly desire to suffer the effects of Negative Zone. The physical damage that the Final Smash deals to competitors is similar to the emotional horrors that plague Luigi every day of his miserable, wretched "life". He is so constantly overflowing with pain and depression that his negative feelings and emotions spill over onto his opponents upon successfully trapping them in Negative Zone. All that Peach's Peach Blossom does is grow some fruit and bore her opponents to sleep. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2015 (EST)
  13. Weegee! Weegee! Weegee! UltraSmasher402 (talk) 22:22, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  14. This explains Luigi's hatred of being Player 2 a lot more. Also I think this has more good effects than Peach Blossom. --EpiNa8 23:08, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  15. I was rather sad about the removal of this Final Smash. ChuckNorris24.png  20:27, 15 January 2015 (EST)
  16. Negative Zone is better overall. It is a little bit disappointing that Luigi's Final Smash was changed, but the Poltergust 5000 is also great. LimitCrown (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2015 (EST)
  17. Negative Zone+Fire Jump Punch=Instant KOAwesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:09, 16 January 2015 (EST)
  18. Man, it really is the best. 69.242.137.135 09:54, 17 January 2015 (EST)
  19. This won me a lot of casual matches, mostly because it never occurs to anyone that Luigi has never been about damage. He's about frustration. And this is the most frustrating final smash aside from Kirby's stage-spanning pot. Also, yeah, the gaining dark powers from living in Mario's shadow is a nice touch.WaveMotionSmash (talk) 10:43, 19 January 2015 (EST)
  20. I like this better. Smash Master 13:40, 19 January 2015 (EST)
  21. Negative Zone was one of the top 5 Final Smashes in Brawl in my opinion, as it nearly guaranteed you a KO if you were anywhere near the opponent. Peach Blossom was one of my most hated Final Smashes, however, as I figured it was useless since enemies can air/ledge camp with nothing but a slap on the wrist for the entire duration of the move, and they could just heal afterward with the peaches. I obviously don't think Peach Blossom is that bad now, but my vote's going to my favorite Final Smash when I was a casual player. --Timson622222 (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  22. I was hoping this was going to be a Negative Zone vs. Poltergust 5000 fight, I'm really curious which Final Smash people would prefer. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 03:36, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  23. Look at my username. Plus, Luigi is way, way, way better than Peach. No offense. Weegee Number 1! (talk) 21:15, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  24. My favorite part is using his Up B on sleeping or tripped opponents, and it's good to have the Flower effect on the side. It also has nice visual effects. I also appreciate the meaning behind it and Luigi's personality that Everyman or Nobody pointed out. Peach Blossom is helpful (even more so in SSB4), but boring in comparison. Nas160Pittsburgh Penguins 1992 logo.png Let's go Pens! 16:48, 23 January 2015 (EST)
  25. Peach Blossom can't put to sleep opponents that aren't on ground, and because of that I always dodge it and steal peaches. Plus, I like Negative Zone more than peach-growing lullaby. 83.24.230.217 13:53, 24 January 2015 (EST)
  26. Peach Blossom is not that good of a final smash. Personally, I like Poltergeist 5000, but Negative Zone is great too. User:Thestrategyman 9:37, 27 January 2015
  27. Weird is good... right? Kenniky SMASHROSTERSMALL.png 18:16, 29 January 2015 (EST)

Half votes

  1. Though this doesn't fit his character, it might just be the "trolliest" Final Smash in SSBB. SmashBros (talk) 15:15, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. I like the Poltergust 5000, but this is great too. It can screw up recoveries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyoloy (talkcontribs) 12:02, 11 January 2015‎ (EST)
  3. Its just so RANDOM! Plus, peach blossom, in my opinion, is the least effective Final Smash —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.8.126 (talkcontribs) 15:43, January 11, 2015 (CST)
  4. Negative Zone looks cooler but neither does damage.68.109.75.101 22:56, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  5. i just like luigi! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckitten27 (talkcontribs) 18:38, January 15, 2015 (CST)

Votes for Peach Blossom

  1. Meh.71.106.217.7 14:20, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Peach Blossom fits in with Peach's character quite well, while Negative Zone does not fit Luigi's character at all. MarioIsTheBest (talk) 14:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. 353.png Mesuxelf 17:48, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. I chose this one because the music is better when you do this final smash. And because it's a girl. The Iliad (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Pretty much 2 and 4, but also because I like Peach a little bit more than Luigi. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 19:19, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  6. Only because I hate Negative Zone 124.148.196.145 21:09, 18 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Peachy 147.69.159.108 00:12, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  8. I despise Negative Zone. Even when I use it its hard to tell what I'm doing because it messes with my camera. Peach Blossom, on the other hand, allows me to heal whenever I get my butt kicked as Peach (which is often). ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 17:21, 23 January 2015 (EST)

Comments

Geez, Everyman or Nobody, that's deep. Surprising people can make something that in-depth about a collection of pixels, but won't do it in real life. I love the way the world works. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 19:27, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Hey, thanks. Deeper meaning can be found everywhere if one simply chooses to find it. And for the record, one could posit that "real life" is also just a collection of pixels. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 03:21, 17 January 2015 (EST)

um... how do i fix mine? Beckitten27 (talk) 20:57, 18 January 2015 (EST)

I think it's clear that we have a winner. Just saying. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 00:03, 19 January 2015 (EST)
Rule 12; comments about how one-sided the match is are not allowed. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Character 00:06, 19 January 2015 (EST)
Well, excuuuuuuuuse me, princess.
In all seriousness, I really did not know that. My apologies. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 11:52, 19 January 2015 (EST)

When's this going to end? Just saying, I think we know the winner. I don't mean to break Rule 12 or anything, but yeah. Weegee Number 1! (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2015 (EST)

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