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On reappearance, Zelda retains a small fraction of momentum. In the air, this can help her make it to ledge even if the teleport per se didn't quite take her far enough. On the ground, this allows her to [[edge cancel]]. Due to her high [[traction]], the distance she slides is short, making the technique very difficult compared to moves like [[Warp]]. There are various setups to facilitate edge cancels, such as [[wavelanding]] backward onto the edge of platforms, though at the cost of making the cancel more telegraphed. However, successfully edge canceling gives Zelda extraordinary options, such as escaping juggles with negligible lag and huge hitboxes, circumventing her normally slow speed to close distances faster, and the reappearance hitbox being up to +10 on shield. | On reappearance, Zelda retains a small fraction of momentum. In the air, this can help her make it to ledge even if the teleport per se didn't quite take her far enough. On the ground, this allows her to [[edge cancel]]. Due to her high [[traction]], the distance she slides is short, making the technique very difficult compared to moves like [[Warp]]. There are various setups to facilitate edge cancels, such as [[wavelanding]] backward onto the edge of platforms, though at the cost of making the cancel more telegraphed. However, successfully edge canceling gives Zelda extraordinary options, such as escaping juggles with negligible lag and huge hitboxes, circumventing her normally slow speed to close distances faster, and the reappearance hitbox being up to +10 on shield. | ||
The aerial reappearance notably has less ending lag than the grounded reappearance. This can be exploited to make Zelda's teleport slightly less punishable. For instance, Zelda can teleport between platforms, or from the edges of Pokémon Stadium 2 to the center, landing almost immediately after reappearing in the air and incurring only 30 frames of landing lag instead of 40 frames of ending lag. Additionally, reappearing in the air near the ledge, then drifting to ledge is another way to mitigate the ending lag. | The aerial reappearance notably has less ending lag than the grounded reappearance; it also deals more damage and thus shieldstun and shield pushback. This can be exploited to make Zelda's teleport slightly less punishable. For instance, Zelda can teleport between platforms, or from the edges of Pokémon Stadium 2 to the center, landing almost immediately after reappearing in the air and incurring only 30 frames of landing lag instead of 40 frames of ending lag. Additionally, reappearing in the air near the ledge, then drifting to ledge is another way to mitigate the ending lag. | ||
Overall, Farore's Wind is highly complex and versatile. Serving as one of the best recoveries in the game, a great out of shield option and a kill move, it is integral to Zelda's strengths and overall kit. | Overall, Farore's Wind is highly complex and versatile. Serving as one of the best recoveries in the game, a great out of shield option and a kill move, it is integral to Zelda's strengths and overall kit. | ||
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Latest revision as of 16:55, August 22, 2024
Overview[edit]
Zelda twirls to whip up a green vortex around herself before vanishing and reappearing shortly afterward. Farore's Wind is one of the most unique recoveries in the game. Due to being a teleport, she is completely invisible and intangible for up to 18 frames, and is omnidirectional, allowing her to teleport from above ledge with no vulnerability on her ledge grab. Among all teleports, it also travels the farthest. This makes Zelda very difficult to edge guard. Unlike other teleports, it has large and strong hitboxes both on startup and on reappearance, with the reappearance hitboxes in particular being massive (nearly as large as a max-charged Din's Fire). Holding down during the teleport allows Zelda to shoot past ledge or activate the reappearance hitbox right before grabbing ledge; the latter is safe even on parry. This allows her to counter shorter-ranged two-frame attempts. Overall, she has many mixups with respect to when and how she can recover.
Farore's Wind doubles as an excellent out of shield move. On startup, it covers both sides on frame 6 with decent horizontal range, making it her fastest OOS option. It is also her only option that hits ground level, allowing it to reliably hit even pancaking opponents. Overall, aside from disjoints and extremely low-lag moves, it can punish many moves on shield. The initial hit launches vertically and can uniquely combo into the aerial reappearance. Its knockback is not fixed, so at low percents it may be too weak to combo, unless Zelda shortens her teleport. It will also be too strong to combo at higher percents, especially with rage.
The opponent can DI the initial hit, and will often do so inadvertently. In such cases, Zelda must angle her teleport slightly left or right to connect the reappearance hit. Reacting to the DI is fast and difficult, but Zelda can try to predict the opponent's DI based on their drift prior to the hit. The aerial reappearance's sweetspot is very strong, has high base knockback and sends diagonally upward. Successfully comboing into it can be very rewarding in early KOs off the top blast zone. This is especially true with rage, on platforms and/or with improper DI (i.e. in and/or up). Instead of attempting a combo into the aerial reappearance, Zelda can also reappear on the ground after launching the opponent high up with the first hit. This is a good way to escape shield pressure and reset neutral while also inflicting small damage.
Compared to the initial grounded hit, aerial one covers all around Zelda with less horizontal range. It sends more diagonally and has a significantly smaller combo window into the reappearance due to its comparatively low base knockback and high knockback growth. It can also be a quick get-off-me option on greedy approaches and edge guard attempts, often stage spiking almost unreactably; however, it is more risky and situational compared to the grounded version’s OOS advantage.
The reappearance can be used on its own, though situationally. The aerial reappearance can snipe opponents near the top blast zone for early KOs. However, this will leave Zelda helpless high in the air. The grounded reappearance is not quite as strong, but sends at a horizontal angle, allowing for early KOs, especially near the ledge. It cannot be comboed into from anything, but it quickly transports Zelda with generous intangibility at the cost of high ending lag. It is her fastest option to punish opponents from far away, e.g. in anti-zoning or catching landings. Either the aerial or grounded reappearance can also be used as a landing option, especially if the opponent has used or is charging a laggy option. In any case, the reappearance is reactable at frame 35 and has high ending lag, making it a poor movement option. It should only be used sparingly and be mostly reserved for confident punishes.
On reappearance, Zelda retains a small fraction of momentum. In the air, this can help her make it to ledge even if the teleport per se didn't quite take her far enough. On the ground, this allows her to edge cancel. Due to her high traction, the distance she slides is short, making the technique very difficult compared to moves like Warp. There are various setups to facilitate edge cancels, such as wavelanding backward onto the edge of platforms, though at the cost of making the cancel more telegraphed. However, successfully edge canceling gives Zelda extraordinary options, such as escaping juggles with negligible lag and huge hitboxes, circumventing her normally slow speed to close distances faster, and the reappearance hitbox being up to +10 on shield.
The aerial reappearance notably has less ending lag than the grounded reappearance; it also deals more damage and thus shieldstun and shield pushback. This can be exploited to make Zelda's teleport slightly less punishable. For instance, Zelda can teleport between platforms, or from the edges of Pokémon Stadium 2 to the center, landing almost immediately after reappearing in the air and incurring only 30 frames of landing lag instead of 40 frames of ending lag. Additionally, reappearing in the air near the ledge, then drifting to ledge is another way to mitigate the ending lag.
Overall, Farore's Wind is highly complex and versatile. Serving as one of the best recoveries in the game, a great out of shield option and a kill move, it is integral to Zelda's strengths and overall kit.
Hitboxes[edit]
Start (grounded)[edit]
Start (aerial)[edit]
Reappearance (grounded)[edit]
Reappearance (aerial)[edit]
Timing[edit]
Start[edit]
The grounded and aerial versions have the same timing.
Hitbox | 6-7 |
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Intangibility | 17-34 |
The move's travel direction is decided on frame 17. In the air, starting on frame 18, ledge grabs are enabled from both sides. The frame strips indicate full execution.
Grounded reappearance[edit]
Hitboxes (from appearance) | 35-36 (1-2) |
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Animation length (from appearance) | 75 (41) |
Aerial reappearance[edit]
Hitboxes (from appearance) | 35-36 (1-2) |
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Animation length (from appearance) | 93 (59) |
Landing[edit]
Interruptible | 31 |
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Animation length | 44 |
Lag time |
Hitbox |
Vulnerable |
Intangible |
Interruptible |
Parameters[edit]
Horizontal speed divisor on startup | 1.66667 |
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Vertical speed divisor on startup | 2 |
Gravity during startup | 0.03 |
Maximum falling speed during startup | 0.75 |
Ledge grab frame | 16 |
Teleport base speed | 2.2 |
Teleport maximum additional speed by stick tilt | 2 |
Minimum stick sensitivity for additional teleport speed | 0.5 |
Teleport duration | 18 frames |
Speed multiplier after teleport | 0.2 |
Maximum horizontal speed after teleport | 0.6 |
Landing lag | 30 frames |
Helplessness air speed multiplier | 0.8 |
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