Forum:Smash Arena

Forums: Index → Smash Arena

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or two weeks, if the wiki's status is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

The Rules

1. When voting, you can give a brief comment on why you voted the way you did, or you can just leave your signature. Long explanations for your vote are discouraged, as they are unnecessary (a vote is worth the same regardless of its reasoning), and they inflate the size of an already large page.
2. You can vote only once. Any multiple votes will be removed.
3. Put a # before your vote to facilitate the vote counting.
4. Type ~~~~ after your vote to sign it, whether you are logged in or not. Using the wrong number of "~"s counts as not signing - your signature must have both your signature itself and the time.
5. There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to follow this rule; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
6. Put your vote below other votes; that is, so the votes are in chronological order.
7. You may change or remove your vote at any time. To do this you must remove your old vote in its entirety; this is an exception to the "never remove comments" rule.
8. You may vote only in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
9. Do not leave a space between your comment and the ones above it (and/or below it). Extra spacing results in the list numbers becoming disjointed.
10. While previewing an edit of a single section, you will see loose formatting marks (such as a trailing |}). Do not alter or delete them; they are important to the page's construction and take effect only when the entire round is viewed.
11. If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
12. Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
    • Comments relating to how close or one-sided a matchup is.
    • Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.
      • Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.

If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the unsigned template if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.

Multiple votes in a round are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with sockpuppets will result in all your votes being deleted, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.

Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.

Above all, remember that voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right. In the vein of what SmashWiki is not, you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.

Round 232: Onett vs. Fourside

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
These two masses of buildings are of significantly different population density - and altitude of fighting. One's based on horizontal sections and runaway drivers, the other on vertical shafts and runaway UFOs. Which capitalizes?
Votes for Onett I prefer Onett, mainly because I've never played Fourside. I actually like Magicant best though. XD 72.105.74.179 10:20, 13 December 2014 (EST) Onett is better because Onett. Rtzxy Reflect! 10:26, 13 December 2014 (EST) After almost a 6 month hiatus, we finally get to vote again in a new round on Smash Arena. I can't wait for the three way smash games round because I would love to hear everyone's opinions on the three games (although Melee might win over Brawl this time though. :P). Anyways, I vote for Onett because Pollyanna is my favorite music in the EarthBound franchise. The music and the stage itself reminds me of my life back in California. Dots (talk) The Calvin and Hobbes 10:39, 13 December 2014 (EST) You can't accidentally fall down between buildings here. 'Nuff said. Takava (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2014 (EST) What Takava said. Plus, I like the music in it better, and the fact that it appears in 3 Smash games is more than enough to prove that it is better. :P Tepig (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2014 (EST) I've (sadly) never played Melee, so I'll have to give it to Onett. Als- OH NO THE TAXI RosalinaU (talk) 22:01, 13 December 2014 (EST) You can play Smiles and Tears here in SSB4, not to mention the Onett Winters Theme. 'Nuff said.SSBBNess (talk) 08:47, 14 December 2014 (EST) I've never really liked fourside, it was kind of wide and had a weird layout(gaps between buildings), and onnet always was better, more memorable and colourful than fourside in my mind. Besides, the music in all games on this stage are awesome.TheAtomicFire 08:56, 14 December 2014 (EST) Half-votes I think Onett is more classical to EarthBound Series —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.144.159.18 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 13 December 2014			Votes for Fourside I feel that the cars of Onett force players to avoid/utilize its ground area excessively, changing normal gameplay mechanics. I still like both stages, though; I merely prefer Fourside. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:40, 13 December 2014 (EST) It hasn't refused to go away. RickTommy 02:13, 13 December 2014 (EST) It has a better aesthetic design, as well as being overall less campy(though not by much). I wish it would make a return.71.108.116.197 03:10, 13 December 2014 (EST) This stage doesn't have walk-offs. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:06, 13 December 2014 (EST) Though I never played on Fourside, I've seen it in action. It looks better aesthetically. Here's to hoping it comes back! Berrenta (talk) 10:32, 13 December 2014 (EST) Foursode is less annoying (dang cars) more interesting visually and just more fun overallThe Omega Smasher (talk) 19:01, 13 December 2014 (EST) I prefer stages that aren't walk-off. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 21:33, 13 December 2014 (EST) Half-votes Fourside is a cool stage, Onett is a really fun stage. Both are very frustrating for different reasons. Onett has walk-off KOs and powerful stage hazards, as well as a layout that can lead to Up-Smash/tilt camping. Fourside has narrow holes (making it especially frustrating for its sole character; Ness), a spaceship platform that's obviously been waxed, and a layout and length that promotes all types of camping. For their good traits, there are many. Onett for example, has a good lay-out for 6-8 player smashes (one of the best in the game imo), good music, and just a fun atmosphere. But, I'm voting for Fourside because it has BETTER music, a real cool atmosphere (think Saphron City, but larger, more realistic and at night with aliens), would've been a great 8-player smash stage, and it has aliens, dammit! How cool is that? However, considering all things, I can only bring myself to give Fourside a half vote, as Onett gets a very close second in my book. Laikue (talk | contribs) 12:52, 13 December 2014 (EST) Watching the AI kill itself is pretty amusing. 32.211.91.106 17:56, 13 December 2014 (EST)
Comments

Round 231: Samus vs. Sonic

		Winner!! Sonic 40 to 43.5
They curl up into balls and roll around at high speed. They have nemeses that refuse to go away. They're of opposite colours and personalities. Which one's the winner?
Votes for Samus Probably just a quick vote of some sort. Nothing much to say. Dots (talk) The Keyboard 14:26, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Samus is underrated, Sonic pisses me off. Any voter who mentions "Yur too slow" in their voting will die a horrible painful death.Qwerty da beast 15:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT) --Myth 15:42, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Berrenta (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic has much better mobility and slightly better KO moves, but Samus isn't too far behind in the latter field, and her projectile game mitigates her problems in the former. She overall has better endurance (especially horizontally) and is a lot more fun to use. I also think Samus's aerials (except for b-air) are better. Blue Ninjakoopa 21:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Neither were great to me in Brawl, but at least Samus was pretty fun in Melee.71.108.118.204 23:17, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is complete crap in Brawl, plus, Samus has only made one "meh" game, while Sonic has made at least three TERRIBLE games. Laikue (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2014 (EDT) 60.231.176.168 00:39, 27 July 2014 (EDT) I hate sonic in brawl. His moves were boring,weak and cheap. But samus has much more to show for. And if we're talking actual character comparison, I like sonic, but he can be annoying *cough*YOU'RE TOO SLOW*cough* and at least samus didn't have a game made in 2006 that almost ruined the franchise! TheAtomicFire 08:44, 27 July 2014 (EDT) I never liked Sonic nor Samus (besides Zamus) in Smash, but outside of Smash, Samus wins, no contest. Her series consists of games that are actually, you know, good. Even Other M, the game that "almost ruined the series", has its fans. DoctorPain99 09:19, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Samus is my most favourite Nintendo character. Her moves are nice, Many projectiles, her recovery is Ok and she has the longest grab range.Vegeta8001 (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2014 (EDT) 180.149.192.132 03:08, 29 July 2014 (EDT) Because Samus is awesome and Sonic is slightly less so. ScizorSteelix 17:15, 29 July 2014 (EDT) I've actually been playing a lot of Samus in Project M lately. Aside from that, I've never been a true fan of Sonic, both in his games and in his movepool, and some parts of his fanbase are just sickening to look at. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2014 (EDT) Just... Better.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 02:49, 30 July 2014 (EDT) Both of them are pretty bad in Brawl, but Samus is a far better in my eyes. Except for Other M. Also, I like the Metroid series infinitely more than Sanic the Hegh. ...Except for Other M. Nymbare and his talk 21:27, 30 July 2014 (EDT) C'mon, Nintendo. Bring back the bikini-endings! MeatBall104; Prepare your anus! 10:25, 3 August 2014 (EDT) I would choose a badass bounty hunter over a blue hedgehog any day. N6TJA (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2014 (EDT) See vote no. 2. Plus, Sonic's rather predictable and he really can't KO very well. 23.119.230.43 18:55, 3 August 2014 (EDT) I favor Samus in character. I don't play either of these in Smashes, but I play Metroid more often then Sonic, sooo... Samus. Stan the Man (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2014 (EDT) Dat maneuverability tho. --Torden (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2014 (EDT) Samus has much more combat experience, the armor to survive sonic's speed, as well as the speed boost item that eliminates sonic's biggest advantage. Samus, any day. --ZephyrOmega (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2014 (EDT) Metroid is better. PikaSamus (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2014 (EDT) Samus is a lot more powerful and Ifind her easier to control Zogvquit (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2014 (EDT) I enjoy Samus better. IMO, she's got the better games, is the better character, and is more fun to play than Sonic in Brawl. Beatle (talk) 01:59, 18 September 2014 (EDT) Obvious choice. JamesHeart 17:49, 18 September 2014 (EDT) "SONIC'S THE NAME, SPEED'S MY GAME--" *cue Speed Booster* (yes I know she doesn't use Speed Booster in Smash but whatever) CrazyAl02(talk) 23:54, 30 September 2014 (EDT) Takava (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2014 (EDT) Samus has faced down enormous galactic space monsters and slain pirates, and all sonic has done is save some woodland creatures. Poweron721 (talk) 09:14, 10 October 2014 (EDT) Samus 4 Lyfe :{3 SmashBros (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2014 (EDT) Not even a contest. 162.194.130.200 00:35, 16 October 2014 (EDT) She has more experience. 98.222.6.141 14:53, 19 October 2014 (EDT) More fun to play as Samus, attacks hurts more, doesn't suicide from too much speed (not that good with the recovery tho) Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 10:56, 23 October 2014 (EDT) Aside from Metroid being a better overall series than Sonic, Samus is my all time favorite character. She's badass, sexy and my hero. And Plus in Smash 4 she's not a clunky piece of garbage like Sonic. Enderwoman (talk) 20:01, 26 October 2014 (EDT) As a Brawl and SSB4 player, Sonic is just way to boring in his design compared to Samus (I mean how many of his moves involve him rolling up into a ball to attack). Samus is just too bad-ass in this game compared to Sonic. Also, Prime is a thing.DungTrio43 (talk) 21:18, 26 October 2014 (EDT) She is easier to play, stronger and overall better. I won many times thanks to Charge Shot. Sonic doesn't have anything like this. 83.6.63.55 07:26, 10 November 2014 (EST) 178.180.158.188 11:06, 22 November 2014 (EST) Samus is a much stronger character than Sonic. User:Unknown5145 16:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC) Half-votes Feel like making a half-vote because Samus is more fun in Smash, but as characters I don't really favor either one. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 11:17, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Half vote cuz I don't care for either, but in appearence, Samus winz! 72.105.73.247 18:00, 8 August 2014 (EDT) Don't really play as either in Brawl, but Samus has a giant laser. Sonicmario22 (talk) 11:21, 18 August 2014 (EDT) Half vote for Samus cause she's very strong other than Sonic, but Sonic is a decent character for me, just not strong enough. Giratina 720 19:12, 30 August 2014 (EDT)			Votes for Sonic Sonic is fast! Speed and agility beat technology anytime. He has more allies than Samus, and he looks cooler.24.95.58.164 14:33, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic doesn't need weapons to fight. He can beat any enemy using his own speed and skill.99.14.210.136 15:28, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is third party! SeanWheeler (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2014 (EDT) "Yur too slow" ChuckNorris 21:05, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Love playing as him in Brawl Minus. *repeated pummels* YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO... Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:45, 26 July 2014 (EDT) I met Wizzrobe and happily got wrecked by his Sonic in our Project M friendlies. Chilex (talk) 00:13, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Charge Shot can't be THAT weak. :|O Scr7(talk · contribs) 08:55, 27 July 2014 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 11:21, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Now i'll show you!Samus is ko'ed!MetaMewtwoSoul' 11:25, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is the fastest thing alive User:Xyle 12.55, 27 July 2014 (EDT) As I have never played a Metroid game and have played many Sonic The Hedgehog games, I am voting for Sonic solely because I am more familiar with him. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is so awesome, even though hes from another game company, Sonic feels at home in Smash. Not only that, hes Sega's main mascot! Is Samus Nintendo's main mascot?.....-Kaizer24.185.135.102 00:27, 1 August 2014 (EDT) Sonic is awesome, blue and fast. He needs no weapons to fight and I tend to prefer speedier characters. Zwzchow (talk) 11:22, 11 August 2014 (EDT) Sonic is my main in Brawl and Project M. I like Sonic as both a character and a fighter. He has the fastest running speed, a great recovery, and, in Project M, a very satisfying meteor smash. (Plus, I'm a huge fanboy.) --Aqua Shield (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2014 (EDT) picking sonic because that thing on the other side isn't zero suit samus and i'm kinda shit at power suit samus CLI (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2014 (EDT) Closest thing to Big the Cat. Toast ltimatum 11:47, 3 September 2014 (EDT) Do I really need to explain anything? --Sonicyay2 (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2014 (EDT) Live & Learn! Hanging on the edge of tomorrow! The Super Smasher (talk) 03:33, 10 September 2014 (EDT) Sonic is easier to use in my opinion and he looks cooler.68.109.87.136 17:47, 14 September 2014 (EDT)Anonymous Heres a good challenge: all players are sonic in a clear, giant, curry, fast, and heavy brawl on battlefield. No stopping allowed.Littlesquirtle (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2014 (EDT) Sonic the Hedgehog is the Fastest Character on the SSB History, Not Palutena the Goddess Igor The Mii (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2014 (EDT) Not that I really like Sonic, I like him more than Samus. Because I suck at Samus. ...a new Nuttais approaching... 18:27, 18 September 2014 (EDT) YOU'RE TOO SLOW! >:) Smash Master 13:01, 27 September 2014 (EDT) With that super-speed, he can get in and out of combat without taking too much damage! 68.119.28.72 01:22, 29 September 2014 (EDT) Faster, can't rack up damage as well, but, he's Sonic. 50.44.117.173 12:02, 14 October 2014 (EDT) SSSSOOOONNNNIIIICCCC!!!! You're too SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWW!!!! I am JigglyPurin. (talk) 17:14, 16 October 2014 (EDT) Sonic is the best {HaloHero14 (talk) 10:51, 23 October 2014 (EDT)} SONIC ROCKS! --Scottsc (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2014 (EDT) I share a birthday with Sonic, so he's kinda special to me. Plus, I'm not too good at Metroid games anyway. Mistiryshak (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2014 (EDT) I find Sonic pretty good at battles, he's actually one of my mains. --EpiNa8 00:47, 3 November 2014 (EST) I like playing as Sonic more. LimitCrown (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2014 (EST) Sonic is the BEST & greatest 202.161.109.155 07:52, 6 November 2014 (EST) 20:51 6 November 2014 Gotta go fast! 32.211.91.106 15:27, 10 November 2014 (EST) GO GO SOOONNIIIC!!219.77.171.224 05:03, 11 November 2014 (EST)18:01 November 11(EST) Super Sonic style!!!!!{Psychninja14 (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2014 (EST)} Sonic is, by far, the better character. His speed can allow him to avoid Samus's weaponry, and he can go Super. Aidan the Gamer 11:40, 18 November 2014 (EST) ur 2 sloooowww -nintendofan100111 10:11, 21 November 2014 (EST) hes from my favorite game franchise, he's my main in brawl, and, lest we forget, your too slow. The Omega Smasher (talk) 22:36, 22 November 2014 (EST) Sonic is waaay better than Samus. He's faster, stronger, plus, hes like 8 spots ahead of Samus in the tier list. The Master Hand—It's time. 09:20, 12 December 2014 (EST) Yay, 40th vote! Besides, Sonic is way cooler. infernape612 22:47, 12 December 2014 (EST) Half-votes While Samus is/was (depending on the time you read this) the strongest character in the game, Sonic is the speediest, and after they buffed him in SSB4 and Mega Man taking Samus' place, Sonic is better by a landslide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meman1990 (talk • contribs) 07:21, July 27, 2014 (EDT) Sonic is faster than Samus and can transform into Super Sonic. Plus: You're to slow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limulla (talk • contribs) 15:49, August 1, 2014‎ (CDT) i like sonic the hedgehog better than super metroid and i like dark-ish blue better than light-ish orange and sonic's faster and very ..."link type of cute" so sonic is definately my pick:D—Preceding unsigned comment added by Valehd (talk • contribs) 10:22, August 9, 2014 (CDT) Sonic is an instantly recognizable popculture icon. Samus, while popular with the gaming crowd, is not nearly as iconic or recognizable as the Blue Blur. Sonic's natural speed and strength makes him a much better character than Samus' tech-equipped from head-to-toe gear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.29.7 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 11 October 2014 (EDT) He's still waiting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.194.183 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 26 October 2014 (EDT) Trouble keeps you running faster, save the planet from disaster, spinning through a world in motion, take it all the way!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.67.248 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 3 November 2014 (EDT) Sonic has a speed advantage and he's more well known. I like him a lot, so he'll just keep rollin' around at the speed of sound for me I guess —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbsim52 (talk • contribs) 12:44, 22 November 2014 (EST)
Comments The blue text box for Sonic makes it to read. Maybe use a different, less bright color?Nuclear Hand (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2014 (EDT) It's hard to chooseThegoldenminecart (talk) 5:36' 10 August 2014 (EDT) My signature is there, but it blends completely into the background. --Aqua Shield (talk) 01:53, 13 August 2014 (EDT) Sob... I can't vote between them! So putting this here instead (sorry). I love them both!!! Samus is the awesome super-woman with super-armor that saves everyone time and again and some of my favorite games (and my best character), and Sonic is my childhood hero and some of my favorite games (and ties for my 2nd best character). Oh, and since you all insist on forgetting, Samus can run about as fast as Sonic a la Speed Boost, though not in Smash (Wish we could Shinespark in Smash as well). Jarie Suicune (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2014 (EDT) When is dis gonna change? 72.104.148.73 17:01, 25 September 2014 (EDT) This has been here for about 4 months. Please can someone change it? Mesuxelf 19:22, 9 October 2014 (EDT) The wiki is currently in a high red status. To make people focus more on helping the wiki, it won't change until we get back to yellow, which is probably in 6 months. I do agree that it should be changed, though. It's been on for a while. Qwerty (talk) 13:40, 11 October 2014 (EDT) Are votes for this still being accecptedSmashmaster567 (talk) 11:09, 8 November 2014 (EST) This fight is still the current fight, so votes are being accepted at the moment. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 11:55, 8 November 2014 (EST) Wonder how I'm gonna die a "horrible painful death". :p Smash Master 00:39, 23 November 2014 (EST) OK, the wiki is at yellow. Can we please have a new fight? Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 20:43, 7 December 2014 (EST) The plan is to up a new fight at the usual time (late Friday/early Saturday). Toomai Glittershine The Irrepressible 20:38, 8 December 2014 (EST) I was wondering. Since now that we have Conquest mode on Smash 4 and the fact that it acts similarly with Smash Arena (and it is perhaps more popular), will Smash Arena still be relevant? Dots (talk) The Ball 22:06, 8 December 2014 (EST) I think they're different enough for this to survive, primarily in that conquests can only have playable characters, whereas Smash Arena can have stages, items, etc. Toomai Glittershine The Multifaceted 22:14, 8 December 2014 (EST) Not to mention bosses (my suggestion is in my talk page). Derpguy 64 (talk) 08:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)Derpguy 64 It's been more than half a year (7 months, to be precise). I honestly don't care who wins, but at a 40 to 42.5 score (with mah boi leading), I think it's fair to say this thing needs to end sometime soon. BlueStreak Speeds By 11:37, 12 December 2014 (EST)

Queue

257

258

259

260

261

262

263

264

265

Suggestions

To view and comment on suggested fights, go here.

Past fights

List of past fights

Archives

1-5	6-10	11-15	16-20	21-25	26-30	31-35	36-40	41-45	46-50
51-55	56-60	61-65	66-70	71-75	76-80	81-85	86-90	91-95	96-100
101-105	106-110	111-115	116-120	121-125	126-130	131-135	136-140	141-145	146-150
151-155	156-160	161-165	166-170	171-175	176-180	181-185	186-190	191-195	196-200
201-205	206-210	211-215	216-220	221-225	226-230