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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or two weeks, if the wiki's status is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 233: Negative Zone vs. Peach Blossom

Negative Zone - Brawl Trophy.png
 Winner!!
undecided

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Peach Blossom - Brawl Trophy.png
Rather than direct damage, these two Final Smashes focus on status shenanigans. Which overwhelms the other?

Votes for Negative Zone

  1. Lol. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 12:09, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Man, this trophy is just plain weird. :/ Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Heavy Weapons Guy 12:12, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. Negative Zone is the best. Smashworker101 (talk) 12:23, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. Lol, I don't like Peach! MeatBall104; The Bikini Inspector! >:D 12:30, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Now what can beat the best Final Smash in the series? Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  6. This is pretty great. Imagine being able to do this in everyday life, like when you're stuck in a line, trapped in a crowd, trying to kidnap someone, or being kidnapped yourself. Also, this section was at the top. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 19:08, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Luigi Power 4ever. (Psychninja14 (talk) 11:55, 11 January 2015 (EST))
  8. In my opinion this is just a one-sided battle. This one is more affective, despite the fact that it has a set range, this one affects people even in mid-air, whereas Peach's Blossoms are relatively easy to avoid, and if you do avoid it (which any experienced smash player will) then you can steal her peaches. 72.105.76.48 13:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  9. Negative Zone! Negative Zone! Igor the Mii (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  10. Peach Blossom sucks. AW402 (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  11. Negative Zone can actually change the course of the game. Definitely one of the better Final Smashes. What can Peach Blossom do? Put you to sleep. Nuff said. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 23:09, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  12. I find the metaphor of Negative Zone to be quite interesting. Luigi has forever lived in the shadow of his brother, Mario, putting him in a depressed state. Mario has been featured in countless eponymous games while Luigi has had few, if any. I see Negative Zone as a physical manifestation of Luigi's sadness. Because Luigi's sadness is so vast and expansive, his Final Smash actually imposes his own pain and misery unto his opponents, for no one would willingly desire to suffer the effects of Negative Zone. The physical damage that the Final Smash deals to competitors is similar to the emotional horrors that plague Luigi every day of his miserable, wretched "life". He is so constantly overflowing with pain and depression that his negative feelings and emotions spill over onto his opponents upon successfully trapping them in Negative Zone. All that Peach's Peach Blossom does is grow some fruit and bore her opponents to sleep. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2015 (EST)

Half votes

  1. Though this doesn't fit his character, it might just be the "trolliest" Final Smash in SSBB. SmashBros (talk) 15:15, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. I like the Poltergust 5000, but this is great too. It can screw up recoveries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyoloy (talk • contribs) 12:02, 11 January 2015‎ (EST)
  3. Its just so RANDOM! Plus, peach blossom, in my opinion, is the least effective Final Smash —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.8.126 (talk • contribs) 15:43, January 11, 2015 (CST)

Votes for Peach Blossom

  1. Meh.71.106.217.7 14:20, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Peach Blossom fits in with Peach's character quite well, while Negative Zone does not fit Luigi's character at all. MarioIsTheBest (talk) 14:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. 353.png Mesuxelf 17:48, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. I chose this one because the music is better when you do this final smash. And because it's a girl. The Iliad (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Pretty much 2 and 4, but also because I like Peach a little bit more than Luigi. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 19:19, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Comments

Round 232: Onett vs. Fourside

OnettMelee.jpg
 Winner!!
Fourside
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23 to 24
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These two masses of buildings are of significantly different population density - and altitude of fighting. One's based on horizontal sections and runaway drivers, the other on vertical shafts and runaway UFOs. Which capitalizes?

Votes for Onett

  1. I prefer Onett, mainly because I've never played Fourside. I actually like Magicant best though. XD 72.105.74.179 10:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. Onett is better because Onett. Rtzxy Reflect.jpg Reflect! 10:26, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  3. After almost a 6 month hiatus, we finally get to vote again in a new round on Smash Arena. I can't wait for the three way smash games round because I would love to hear everyone's opinions on the three games (although Melee might win over Brawl this time though. :P). Anyways, I vote for Onett because Pollyanna is my favorite music in the EarthBound franchise. The music and the stage itself reminds me of my life back in California. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Calvin and Hobbes 10:39, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  4. You can't accidentally fall down between buildings here. 'Nuff said. Takava (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  5. What Takava said. Plus, I like the music in it better, and the fact that it appears in 3 Smash games is more than enough to prove that it is better. :P TepigSprite.pngTepig (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  6. I've (sadly) never played Melee, so I'll have to give it to Onett. Als- OH NO THE TAXI RosalinaU (talk) 22:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  7. You can play Smiles and Tears here in SSB4, not to mention the Onett Winters Theme. 'Nuff said. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 08:47, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  8. it has been here since melee. {Psychninja14 (talk) 18:52, 14 December 2014 (EST)}
  9. It's appeared in every game. Plus it's harder to die on. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 19:01, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  10. Never played melee 106.68.17.161 04:11, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  11. @Nutta Butta: Super Smash Bros. says hi. Anyway, I like Onett due to the sign that talks about the black van being driven by "this guy" racing around town. PikaSamus (talk) PikaSamus 11:07, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  12. The music is way better, and I just like the overall atmosphere more. ChuckNorris24.png 17:57, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  13. 124.187.244.67 01:14, 22 December 2014 (EST)
  14. I like the music. (In EB, that is.) Plus it's the first stage in the series, and I just like the location. Darrman (talk) 13:30, 24 December 2014 (EST)
  15. I like it for having no lower blast line at all. After all the matches I viewed in the past, it's not like anyone needs a lower blast line for KOs. 67.166.228.195 19:52, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  16. I perfer Onett since its the most common returning stage plus I like the stage hazards on it, makes it useful to bari someone then let the cars bump into them. (Smashworker101 (talk) 18:57, 1 January 2015 (EST))
  17. one word: ATMOSPERE!50.32.224.193 21:24, 4 January 2015 (EST)
  18. never played melee so... 68.109.75.101 19:08, 6 January 2015 (EST)
  19. Watch out for the Black Van! The Iliad (talk) 19:30, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Half-votes

  1. I think Onett is more classical to EarthBound Series —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.144.159.18 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 13 December 2014
  2. Both maps are pretty tedious, but occasionally fun when you're not taking the game seriously. I guess the Pollyanna arrangement with the secondary soundtrack is the tie breaker for me.--Dinodomain (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2014 (EST)
  3. I prefer Onett because I am a wario main and he performs well on this stage:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.93.216 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  4. I love the music and the background... and pretty much everything else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.69.248 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 20 December 2014 (EST)
  5. I love this stage, MAH BOI.... the music, the graphics, the colors, everything! Sure, Fourside looks cool and is pretty classic to EarthBound, but Onett is ***COOLER AND MUCH MORE CLASSIC!*** —Preceding unsigned comment added by PK Arby (talk • contribs) 16:31, 21 December 2014 (EST)
  6. I've never really liked either of these stages, so I'll put my half-vote here because the music sounds cool.Qwerty (talk) 15:24, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  7. I've never played on Fourside, but frankly, compared to the other Earthbound stages, it doesn't seem that interesting. Onett seems more inviting, and just all-around awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.8.126 (talk • contribs) 09:26, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  8. I vote for Onett, because I actually like how you are forced to stick to the buildings & trees to avoid the cars. Plus, it has a more fun atmosphere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.68.4.20 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 January 2015 (EST)

Votes for Fourside

  1. I feel that the cars of Onett force players to avoid/utilize its ground area excessively, changing normal gameplay mechanics. I still like both stages, though; I merely prefer Fourside. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:40, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. It hasn't refused to go away. RickTommy 02:13, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  3. It has a better aesthetic design, as well as being overall less campy(though not by much). I wish it would make a return.71.108.116.197 03:10, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  4. This stage doesn't have walk-offs. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:06, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  5. Though I never played on Fourside, I've seen it in action. It looks better aesthetically. Here's to hoping it comes back! Berrenta (talk) 10:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  6. Foursode is less annoying (dang cars) more interesting visually and just more fun overallThe Omega Smasher (talk) 19:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  7. I prefer stages that aren't walk-off. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 21:33, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  8. I personally find Onett to be a rather annoying stage due to the cars, and the overall cramped space. I don't have much to say about Fourside, but I do find it better. MeatBall104; Going :|O around the clock! 12:28, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  9. I've never really liked any of the EarthBound stages in the Smash series (with the exception of this one). In all honesty, however, I'd choose Fourside over the others in an instant. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 12:57, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  10. I was going to say exactly what FaLo said o3o DoctorPain99 19:19, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  11. Onett is a frustrating, campy, cramped stage that was never fun for me to play on, even back in my younger days. Fourside has a pretty interesting geometry and isn't a walk-off. I don't get why Onett keeps getting brought back. --Timson622222 (talk) 19:21, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  12. Fourside is a lot more fun to play on, and the scenery is slightly more pleasing. Onett can be annoying at times, especially when you're trying to maintain your ground in between the houses. There are also those overhangs actually being able to block jumps in Brawl, which makes escaping infinite jabs and chain throws just about impossible. Blue Ninjakoopa 05:45, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  13. Onett is way too cramped. Not very suitable for battle. This is probably the best Earthbound stage in my opinion, excluding Magicant. SmashBros (talk) 10:55, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  14. Bigger, no hazards, better for competitive play (which Melee was focused on a little), and just better overall. Derpguy 64 (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2014 (EST)Derpguy 64
  15. I can pronounce its name. --Meester Tweester (talk) 04:53, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  16. This stage should've been in Brawl and SSB4. Smash Master 08:04, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  17. I never really liked Onett for the sheer fact of it being brought back two too many times than I cared for, and the stage was pretty lackluster, with the cars being the only thing that saves it from being forgotten for me. Fourside, however was a stage that, despite its size, was fun to play on no matter when. Except for that event, Space travelers. AtomicGameAndWatch (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  18. I like Fourside, and I would have liked to see it as a familiar stage in Brawl. Mainly because it has so many camping spots. >:D The Arnge GreenMega.jpg I'm no rubble monkey! 13:41, 18 December 2014 (EST)
  19. I've only ever seen this in fan games (Super Smash Flash 2), but I really like the design and lack of cars. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 09:30, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  20. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 09:52, 22 December 2014 (EST)
  21. Vote 353.png Mesuxelf 09:18, 24 December 2014 (EST)
  22. Would have much rather this be in Sm4sh than Onett - this one feels a LOT more viable for 8-player mode. 86.190.59.122 08:31, 31 December 2014 (EST)
  23. i think fourside is awesome because of the epic colors and the size. i don't like onett because of the wierdo-drivers and the little banner thingies on the drug store. i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 21:50, 5 January 2015 (EST)

Half-votes

  1. Fourside is a cool stage, Onett is a really fun stage. Both are very frustrating for different reasons. Onett has walk-off KOs and powerful stage hazards, as well as a layout that can lead to Up-Smash/tilt camping. Fourside has narrow holes (making it especially frustrating for its sole character; Ness), a spaceship platform that's obviously been waxed, and a layout and length that promotes all types of camping. For their good traits, there are many. Onett for example, has a good lay-out for 6-8 player smashes (one of the best in the game imo), good music, and just a fun atmosphere. But, I'm voting for Fourside because it has BETTER music, a real cool atmosphere (think Saphron City, but larger, more realistic and at night with aliens), would've been a great 8-player smash stage, and it has aliens, dammit! How cool is that? However, considering all things, I can only bring myself to give Fourside a half vote, as Onett gets a very close second in my book. Laikue (talk | contribs) 12:52, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. Watching the AI kill itself is pretty amusing. 32.211.91.106 17:56, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Comments

Yus! Smash Arena is back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.8.126 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 17 December 2014 (EST)

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