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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or two weeks, if the wiki's status is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 231: Samus vs. Sonic

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
They curl up into balls and roll around at high speed. They have nemeses that refuse to go away. They're of opposite colours and personalities. Which one's the winner?
Votes for Samus Probably just a quick vote of some sort. Nothing much to say. Dots (talk) The Keyboard 14:26, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Samus is underrated, Sonic pisses me off. Any voter who mentions "Yur too slow" in their voting will die a horrible painful death.Qwerty da beast 15:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT) --Myth 15:42, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Berrenta (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic has much better mobility and slightly better KO moves, but Samus isn't too far behind in the latter field, and her projectile game mitigates her problems in the former. She overall has better endurance (especially horizontally) and is a lot more fun to use. I also think Samus's aerials (except for b-air) are better. Blue Ninjakoopa 21:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Neither were great to me in Brawl, but at least Samus was pretty fun in Melee.71.108.118.204 23:17, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is complete crap in Brawl, plus, Samus has only made one "meh" game, while Sonic has made at least three TERRIBLE games. Laikue (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2014 (EDT) 60.231.176.168 00:39, 27 July 2014 (EDT) I hate sonic in brawl. His moves were boring,weak and cheap. But samus has much more to show for. And if we're talking actual character comparison, I like sonic, but he can be annoying *cough*YOU'RE TOO SLOW*cough* and at least samus didn't have a game made in 2006 that almost ruined the franchise! TheAtomicFire 08:44, 27 July 2014 (EDT) I never liked Sonic nor Samus (besides Zamus) in Smash, but outside of Smash, Samus wins, no contest. Her series consists of games that are actually, you know, good. Even Other M, the game that "almost ruined the series", has its fans. DoctorPain99 09:19, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Samus is my most favourite Nintendo character. Her moves are nice, Many projectiles, her recovery is Ok and she has the longest grab range.Vegeta8001 (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2014 (EDT) 180.149.192.132 03:08, 29 July 2014 (EDT) Because Samus is awesome and Sonic is slightly less so. ScizorSteelix 17:15, 29 July 2014 (EDT) I've actually been playing a lot of Samus in Project M lately. Aside from that, I've never been a true fan of Sonic, both in his games and in his movepool, and some parts of his fanbase are just sickening to look at. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2014 (EDT) Just... Better.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 02:49, 30 July 2014 (EDT) Both of them are pretty bad in Brawl, but Samus is a far better in my eyes. Except for Other M. Also, I like the Metroid series infinitely more than Sanic the Hegh. ...Except for Other M. Nymbare and his talk 21:27, 30 July 2014 (EDT) C'mon, Nintendo. Bring back the bikini-endings! MeatBall104; Prepare your anus! 10:25, 3 August 2014 (EDT) I would choose a badass bounty hunter over a blue hedgehog any day. N6TJA (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2014 (EDT) See vote no. 2. Plus, Sonic's rather predictable and he really can't KO very well. 23.119.230.43 18:55, 3 August 2014 (EDT) I favor Samus in character. I don't play either of these in Smashes, but I play Metroid more often then Sonic, sooo... Samus. Stan the Man (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2014 (EDT) Dat maneuverability tho. --Torden (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2014 (EDT) Samus has much more combat experience, the armor to survive sonic's speed, as well as the speed boost item that eliminates sonic's biggest advantage. Samus, any day. --ZephyrOmega (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2014 (EDT) Metroid is better. Red (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2014 (EDT) Samus is a lot more powerful and Ifind her easier to control Zogvquit (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2014 (EDT) I enjoy Samus better. IMO, she's got the better games, is the better character, and is more fun to play than Sonic in Brawl. Beatle (talk) 01:59, 18 September 2014 (EDT) Obvious choice. JamesHeart 17:49, 18 September 2014 (EDT) "SONIC'S THE NAME, SPEED'S MY GAME--" *cue Speed Booster* (yes I know she doesn't use Speed Booster in Smash but whatever) Crazyal02(talk) 23:54, 30 September 2014 (EDT) Takava (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2014 (EDT) Half-votes Feel like making a half-vote because Samus is more fun in Smash, but as characters I don't really favor either one. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 11:17, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Half vote cuz I don't care for either, but in appearence, Samus winz! 72.105.73.247 18:00, 8 August 2014 (EDT) Don't really play as either in Brawl, but Samus has a giant laser. Sonicmario22 (talk) 11:21, 18 August 2014 (EDT) Half vote for Samus cause she's very strong other than Sonic, but Sonic is a decent character for me, just not strong enough. Giratina 720 19:12, 30 August 2014 (EDT)			Votes for Sonic Sonic is fast! Speed and agility beat technology anytime. He has more allies than Samus, and he looks cooler.24.95.58.164 14:33, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic doesn't need weapons to fight. He can beat any enemy using his own speed and skill.99.14.210.136 15:28, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is third party! SeanWheeler (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2014 (EDT) "Yur too slow" ChuckNorris 21:05, 26 July 2014 (EDT) Love playing as him in Brawl Minus. *repeated pummels* YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO... Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:45, 26 July 2014 (EDT) I met Wizzrobe and happily got wrecked by his Sonic in our Project M friendlies. Chilex (talk) 00:13, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Charge Shot can't be THAT weak. :|O Scr7(talk · contribs) 08:55, 27 July 2014 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 11:21, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Now i'll show you!Samus is ko'ed!MetaMewtwoSoul' 11:25, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is the fastest thing alive User:Xyle 12.55, 27 July 2014 (EDT) As I have never played a Metroid game and have played many Sonic The Hedgehog games, I am voting for Sonic solely because I am more familiar with him. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2014 (EDT) Sonic is so awesome, even though hes from another game company, Sonic feels at home in Smash. Not only that, hes Sega's main mascot! Is Samus Nintendo's main mascot?.....-Kaizer24.185.135.102 00:27, 1 August 2014 (EDT) Sonic is awesome, blue and fast. He needs no weapons to fight and I tend to prefer speedier characters. Zwzchow (talk) 11:22, 11 August 2014 (EDT) Sonic is my main in Brawl and Project M. I like Sonic as both a character and a fighter. He has the fastest running speed, a great recovery, and, in Project M, a very satisfying meteor smash. (Plus, I'm a huge fanboy.) --Aqua Shield (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2014 (EDT) picking sonic because that thing on the other side isn't zero suit samus and i'm kinda shit at power suit samus CLI (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2014 (EDT) Closest thing to Big the Cat. Toast ltimatum 11:47, 3 September 2014 (EDT) Do I really need to explain anything? --Sonicyay2 (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2014 (EDT) Live & Learn! Hanging on the edge of tomorrow! The Super Smasher (talk) 03:33, 10 September 2014 (EDT) Sonic is easier to use in my opinion and he looks cooler.68.109.87.136 17:47, 14 September 2014 (EDT)Anonymous Heres a good challenge: all players are sonic in a clear, giant, curry, fast, and heavy brawl on battlefield. No stopping allowed.Littlesquirtle (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2014 (EDT) Sonic the Hedgehog is the Fastest Character on the SSB History, Not Palutena the Goddess Igor The Mii (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2014 (EDT) Not that I really like Sonic, I like him more than Samus. Because I suck at Samus. ...a new Nuttais approaching... 18:27, 18 September 2014 (EDT) YOU'RE TOO SLOW! >:) Smash Master 13:01, 27 September 2014 (EDT) With that super-speed, he can get in and out of combat without taking too much damage! 68.119.28.72 01:22, 29 September 2014 (EDT) Half-votes While Samus is/was (depending on the time you read this) the strongest character in the game, Sonic is the speediest, and after they buffed him in SSB4 and Mega Man taking Samus' place, Sonic is better by a landslide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meman1990 (talk • contribs) 07:21, July 27, 2014 (EDT) Sonic is faster than Samus and can transform into Super Sonic. Plus: You're to slow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limulla (talk • contribs) 15:49, August 1, 2014‎ (CDT) i like sonic the hedgehog better than super metroid and i like dark-ish blue better than light-ish orange and sonic's faster and very ..."link type of cute" so sonic is definately my pick:D—Preceding unsigned comment added by Valehd (talk • contribs) 10:22, August 9, 2014 (CDT)
Comments The blue text box for Sonic makes it to read. Maybe use a different, less bright color?Nuclear Hand (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2014 (EDT) It's hard to chooseThegoldenminecart (talk) 5:36' 10 August 2014 (EDT) My signature is there, but it blends completely into the background. --Aqua Shield (talk) 01:53, 13 August 2014 (EDT) Sob... I can't vote between them! So putting this here instead (sorry). I love them both!!! Samus is the awesome super-woman with super-armor that saves everyone time and again and some of my favorite games (and my best character), and Sonic is my childhood hero and some of my favorite games (and ties for my 2nd best character). Oh, and since you all insist on forgetting, Samus can run about as fast as Sonic a la Speed Boost, though not in Smash (Wish we could Shinespark in Smash as well). Jarie Suicune (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2014 (EDT) When is dis gonna change? 72.104.148.73 17:01, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

Round 230: Key vs. Stock Ball vs. Trophy Stand

Winner!! Trophy Stand 6 to 8 to 31.5
These three items only appear in The Subspace Emissary, so naturally they're fit for a fight.
Votes for Key You need them to progress through the game. What a bad match. :P Dots (talk) The Blue 11:58, 28 June 2014 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 03:20, 29 June 2014 (EDT) Never has a key been so gorgeous. Toast ltimatum 10:48, 6 July 2014 (EDT) 180.149.192.139 00:00, 25 July 2014 (EDT) The key can actually recover, and has viable KO moves. Blue Ninjakoopa 01:27, 25 July 2014 (EDT) Half-votes Just love the design —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.201.74 (talk • contribs) 12:48, July 7, 2014 (CDT) perhaps the door to sucsess is locked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.58.169 (talk • contribs) 07:56, July 8, 2014 (CDT)		Votes for Stock Ball 4 stock? Scr7(talk · contribs) 12:14, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Trophy Stands were a neat concept, but it was a very annoying item, since it takes forever to throw and it deals minor damage, leaving you very vulnerable if you inadvertently pick one up in the middle of battle. Stock Balls on the other hand are always useful. Omega Tyrant 12:38, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Keys are annoying and unnecessary, trophy stands are clunky and only serve to acquire an item that has no affect on gameplay. Stock balls make you far more likely to win. Nymbare and his talk 17:54, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Trophy stands are very annoying and it is nearly impossible to get a boss in one of them. 71.116.252.110 18:38, 28 June 2014 (EDT) I can't count how many times I've missed with the Trophy Stand, and while the keys are a necessary gameplay element and a nice reference to Kirby, the Stock ball is very useful, especially when you're down to your last life, though it can be counted as useful at any time. 72.105.72.143 10:35, 30 June 2014 (EDT) It is so relieving when you are down to just oe stock and then you find another one also keys are dropped if you get smashed or use another attack and you have to go back to their spawn point and trophy stands are too slowZogvquit (talk) 08:11, 1 July 2014(EDT) 4 STOCK 4 STOCK AND THE CROWD CHEERING FOR A 4 STOCK THIS COULD BE IT THIS IS IT OOHHHHH -- Mango vs. Leffen, game 5, Apex 2014. Chilex (talk) 01:37, 13 July 2014 (EDT) Half-votes All three are neat items, but if I were to choose, I'd have to pick this, because it's always better to have at least one more stock to carry you in tough situations. Berrenta (talk) 13:10, 28 June 2014 (EDT) its so useful in the adventure these are a savior to myself and everyone I know- a person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.101.203 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 5 July 2014 (EDT)		Votes for Trophy Stand Collecting all the enemy trophies with these was one of the most challenging parts of the SSE. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 12:11, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Its awesome turning Tabuu into a trophy. Stock Ball is also cool. The Key is boring. --Myth 12:19, 28 June 2014 (EDT) The Trophy Stand yields benefits outside of the S. S. E., especially Tabuu's trophy. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 12:22, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Because I like to collect trophies and it helps to get all of them.Tepig (talk) 12:50, 28 June 2014 (EDT) It's fun trying to collect enemies and bosses as trophies. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 13:04, 28 June 2014 (EDT) Pointless Meaningless Vote. Laikue (talk) 14:02, 28 June 2014 (EDT) 124.177.23.107 01:10, 29 June 2014 (EDT) This match sucks. Anyways, it's really fun and addicting to go trophy hunting in the SSE, so.Qwerty the lord 12:28, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I love hunting for trophies.This match is worse then a smoke mote.Really!MetaMewtwoSoul' 16:56, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I like pwnishing Tabuu with this, and besides, who can say no to a gold plate with the smash logo on it?Kage (talk) 20:56, 29 June 2014 (EDT) It's a unique item. Turning your enemies into collectible trophies is so satisfying. Stock Balls are great and all, and help out in gameplay more than the trophy stand, but 1-ups are a pretty common concept. You can collect those in any game. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:01, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I just can't explain the satisfaction that comes from throwing a projectile at your enemies. Plus, it grants you an instant trophy! MeatBall104; Sunburnt in Fiji! 23:09, 29 June 2014 (EDT) They're so shiny!! And besides, when I trap an enemy in one position on a golden plate for the rest of eternity, I get such happy feeling inside! --97.82.197.63 13:57, 1 July 2014 (EDT) Gives you trophies. i collect trophies. :D i like! Harro (talk) 08:03, 2 July 2014 (EDT) I love throwing this at the enemies and then getting a free trophy. Sure, The stock ball gets you lives, but this is more fun! Also, who ACTUALLY really likes the key better?TheAtomicFire 11:33, 2 July 2014 (EDT) Completists will need all the Trophy Stands they can get. RickTommy 01:27, 3 July 2014 (EDT) Extremely satisfying to capture a boss with one of these. Shanderu 18:07, 3 July 2014 (EDT) This is the only one that actually affects things outside of the SSE. Awesomelink234 (talk) 09:55, 5 July 2014 (EDT) Because I like to throw stuff and it have effects. 107.211.34.20 15:03, 5 July 2014 (EDT) it is fun collecting enemies as trophies by throwing trophy stands at them. Blueyoshi (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2014 (EDT) The feeling I get when I see a trophy stand is indescribable. It is the best feeling ever. ChuckNorris 14:27, 9 July 2014 (EDT) Trophieeeeeees. Takava (talk) 19:41, 11 July 2014 (EDT) The Trophy Stand deserves the trophy. Flicky1991 (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2014 (EDT) Collecting all of the trophies is fun. Red (talk) 15:16, 20 July 2014 (EDT) It can insta-kill enemies and I like collecting trophies. N6TJA (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2014 (EDT) Awesome item! I just wish that it would appear more. Lumastar (talk) TROOOPHY GO!!! Gotcha! An enemy was caught! :3. lkblukat 18:15, 22 July 2014 (EDT) lkbluekat Collect-a-thons galore. For all the completionists out there! Kenniky (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2014 (EDT) Gotta have em' trophies. Ness FTW! (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2014 (EDT) It's fun to collect trophys of enemys so I can read the description of the trophy.Vegeta188 (talk) 20:33, 24 July 2014 (EDT) Half-votes Punishing Tabuu for what he's done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.250.149.164 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 28 June 2014 (EDT) trophies are my favorite part of smash bros. User:Xyle 11.14,June 29 2014 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyle (talk • contribs) 12:15, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I can collect new trophies of other characters.limulla —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limulla (talk • contribs) 11:45, 9 July 2014 (EDT)
Comments So why does everyone hate this match? Do you want another match featuring swordsmen? --Myth 13:39, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I myself don't like this match. I don't know about everyone else. Dots (talk) The Gordon Freeman 13:42, 29 June 2014 (EDT) I think we all like the character or assist trophy or just plain trophy matches-me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.101.203 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 5 July 2014 (EDT) I think this match is great! It's something new, but it still makes sense. More like this, please! ♡FirstaLasto♥ 12:02, 5 July 2014 (EDT) I agree. I like its originality. ChuckNorris 14:27, 9 July 2014 (EDT)

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