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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or two weeks, if the wiki's status is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 228: Stone vs. Thunder

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
These two down special moves have been derided as "cheap" by the n00bz ever since their introduction. Which spammed strike hits harder?
Votes for Stone Stone is invincibility.Besides, kirby can turn into different things! --DarkVexon (talk) 14:52, 18 May 2014 (EDT) Simply because of all the forms it can take. JamesHeart 12:11, 17 May 2014 (EDT) As a Kirby mainer, I know how to use Stone effectively. It's very effective when used sparringly, as it will then often catch a chasing opponent off guard and finish them off before they can react. It's also pretty good for edgeguarding in a similar manner. JUST DON'T BE A STONER, KEI? ♡FirstaLasto♥ 12:18, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Am I just paranoid, or am I stoned? ChuckNorris 12:23, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Upward Smash, Perfect Foil - as long as you don't meet the blast line first. ScoreCounter 13:21, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Thunder is the more effective attack, but I like that Kirby has different forms upon using this move. blue ninjakoopa 13:58, 17 May 2014 (EDT) A Kirby main and stone has more variety. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 16:27, 17 May 2014 (EDT) I prefer this move because I use stone quite often in the Kirby games. Also, it's a very useful, and I (get) kill(ed by)people all the time with this! − 72.106.152.21 17:43, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Thunder, the move that everyone used to rape my childhood. Yeah I hate thunder for that reason. Also Kirby is my favorite fictional character. --Myth 20:13, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Earthquake glitch Harro (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Berrenta (talk) 22:40, 17 May 2014 (EDT) 121.223.150.80 23:09, 17 May 2014 (EDT) God, I just love using this move. Also, it transforms into a bunch a stuff!TheAtomicFire 11:07, 18 May 2014 (EDT) I'm gonna have to go to this one, cause some guy called Spammy beat the crap out of me with it. I got so mad.			Votes for Thunder THUNDERSPIKING!!!!!! Also, don't think Thunder is useless in Pokemon just because its inaccurate and Thunderbolt is the completely better option, its a underrated move and you need the extra power in Ubers and this thing is 100% accurate when rain comes in. Dots (talk) The Windows 12:07, 17 May 2014 (EDT) ↑ Scr7(talk · contribs) 12:11, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Stone is meh in both Kirby and Smash, while Thunder is decent in both Pokemon and Smash. 71.116.252.65 14:13, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Just cause I use pikachuQwerty (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Seems more useful to me. 75.156.151.217 18:20, 17 May 2014 (EDT) SHAZAM! SeanWheeler (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2014 (EDT) It's really hard to actually hit a competent player with Stone, not to mention the horrible ending lag and high vulnerability from grabs. Awesome Cardinal 2000 19:12, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Both moves are situational. This one can at least get you cool KOs off the ceiling once in a while and combos nicely from an up smash or up tilt. There are no "Stone setups" for Kirby. --Timson622222 (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2014 (EDT) This move is more satisfying to KO with for me. --Ness FTW! (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2014 (EDT) I love pokemon and pikachu!THIS is Melodia.PIKAAAAACHU!!!!MetaMewtwoSoul' 20:12, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Because of what Dots said. He convinced me. DoctorPain99 21:07, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Thunderspiking is the bane of my existence in Brawl...-. Conny 21:46, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Helps make Kyogre the beast he is. Laikue (talk) 23:45, 17 May 2014 (EDT) Thunder is an extremely useful move in all levels of play (just use when it should be used, i.e. hitting opponents high above). Stone on the other hand, is near useless against competent players without the aid of lag; it's just too slow and telegraphed, leaves you way too vulnerable on whiff, and has no sort of setups or mixups whatsoever. Omega Tyrant 11:40, 18 May 2014 (EDT) Per Dots. Smash Master 13:39, 18 May 2014 (EDT) Though I loved spamming it when I was forced to play Smash 64 for a year, this one is much more powerful and spammy. VICIOUS VIRIDIAN!!!!!! (talk) 15:08, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
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Round 227: Planet Zebes vs. Brinstar vs. Norfair

Winner!! Norfair 8 to 10 to 20
For whatever reason, the main stages for the Metroid series for the first three games all have the same hazard: a huge vat of burning stuff that's a bad idea to fall into. Which variant wins out?
Votes for Planet Zebes I like the music Scr7(talk · contribs) 13:17, 3 May 2014 (EDT) ^^^ Red (talk) 14:03, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Space? Space?!?! SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!! Laikue (talk) 16:57, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Pity vote. 86.172.59.236 08:24, 4 May 2014 (EDT) 180.149.192.133 19:36, 4 May 2014 (EDT) Temporary tie with Brinstar. 75.156.151.217 02:30, 5 May 2014 (EDT) It's the most nostalgic one. Also, what Scr7 said. RickTommy 07:50, 5 May 2014 (EDT) I have to agree with Rick it's nostalgic to me.GoldCoreKid 05:32, 7 May 2014 (EDT)		Votes for Brinstar Lots of fond memories playing this stage 147.69.161.124 12:33, 3 May 2014 (EDT) It has the least annoying hazards. Also, destructable terrain that changes the layout always gives a stage a tactical feel. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 14:01, 3 May 2014 (EDT) I hate all of these stages with a burning passion, but this is probably the least annoying of the three. ChuckNorris 14:10, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Dat music. Also looks better.Tepig (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Zebes feels generic and Norfair has too many hazards. So hooray for Brinstar. Nymbare and his talk 16:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Cuz iss Melee an Melee iss bessst 4eva /s. Terrible is Terrible 20:29, 4 May 2014 (EDT) Norfair is definitely a great stage, but Brinstar is one of my favourites. It's small with a good placement of platforms, I enjoy jumping through the bottom of the stage, and the acid is not only easy to avoid, but it changes the flow of the game by moving everyone closer together. Toast ltimatum 07:32, 5 May 2014 (EDT) I don't have the Nintendo 64 Super Smash Bros., so Planet Zebes is out, since I am less familiar with it. I guess that I like Brinstar and Norfair equally, so I'll have to pick Brinstar because of nostalgia towards Super Smash Bros. Melee. Signed by Mr. Mewtwo. 75.4.226.87 19:04, 5 May 2014 (EDT) --Myth 09:21, 9 May 2014 (EDT) I liked playing on this stage, and I loved the nostalgic music. Ness da best! (talk) 23:43, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		Votes for Norfair What do you call a Metroid that cheats? DoctorPain99 13:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Dots (talk) The Metal Gear 14:34, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Never played smash 64 and computers act very annoying on Brinstar.71.106.222.114 16:34, 3 May 2014 (EDT) This is where I saw a Marth player used their Final Smash to charge headfirst into a lava wall. Also lava is fun. --97.82.197.63 16:54, 3 May 2014 (EDT) I really like how they executed this stage. The other two don't really impress me that much. But that's just me. Berrenta (talk) 22:11, 3 May 2014 (EDT) I hate playing on the other two stages. Yeah, I'm aware Brinstar is the most "neutral" out of these three. But Norfair is relatively fun for me. Brinstar isn't. --Timson622222 (talk) 22:31, 3 May 2014 (EDT) It has capsules and according to Spy Kids 3 it's molten magma.ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 22:44, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Lava > acid. blue ninjakoopa 22:48, 3 May 2014 (EDT) What ninjakoopa said.75.85.64.155 00:39, 4 May 2014 (EDT) Because lava. 107.211.34.20 11:22, 4 May 2014 (EDT) It's Norfair. Ridley lives in the depths of Norfair. I like Ridley. So Norfair. 72.106.150.120 13:43, 4 May 2014 (EDT) Norfair is an amazingly fun stage, where its hazards are easily avoided if you know you're doing and you can easily use them to your advantage. I also love taking people who keep picking FD or SV over and over to here, and then watching them fumble around with no idea of what to do. Plus, it's actually a great stage for many lower tier characters, especially Ganon and Bowser, while countering many higher tier characters, especially Snake and ICs. Omega Tyrant 21:23, 4 May 2014 (EDT) I agree with Omega. I will spray bugs lol (talk) 14:15, 5 May 2014 (EDT) there is a giant lava wave going towards people who don't like this stage Xyle (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2014 (EDT)User:Xyle The most creative of them.TheAtomicFire 16:44, 8 May 2014 (EDT) By far the most fun and interesting of them.Xanthus (talk) 05:48, 10 May 2014 (EDT) 1) It's in Brawl, the best SSB. 2) LAVA!!! 3) YOLO 4) Safety capsules. These are my reasons for voting for this awesome stage. Harro (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2014 (EDT) Lava LavaMetaMewtwoSoul' 15:47, 14 May 2014 (EDT) Grew up with Brinstar, but I'm a lot better at Norfair. Plus lava>acid Kenniky (talk) 21:24, 14 May 2014 (EDT) I like how the lava rises and then you have to open the "shelter" (whatever it's called). Smash Master 11:59, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
Comments This really should of been a four-way battle with Planet Zebes vs. Brinstar vs. Norfair vs. Pyrosphere, just saiyan SamisFusion (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Well we don't allow any Smash 4 aspects in the Smash Arena until the game is released. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 22:41, 3 May 2014 (EDT) Technically that's up to Toomai. (as we've had Megaman vs. WFT vs. Villager) Laikue (talk) 23:27, 3 May 2014 (EDT) That was an exceptional case. Pyrosphere probably wouldn't apply anyway, as there's currently no evidence it has rising lava like the other combatants (the main draw of this fight). Toomai Glittershine The Honcho 23:44, 3 May 2014 (EDT) I know, I was just pointing it out. I knew it was a special occasion. Laikue (talk) 00:14, 4 May 2014 (EDT) Oh dear. Someone seems to have screwed up the Brinstar section. Nymbare and his talk 10:08, 7 May 2014 (EDT) Fixed. Red (talk) 10:09, 7 May 2014 (EDT)

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