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When replying to other users, you tend to quote them sentence by sentence and respond that way (I believe the term for this is a Gish Gallop). While the intent seems to be a response to each point, some of your points end up redundant. At least from a visual standpoint, I think it would be easier to read your argument if you responded in your own section, maybe quoting individual sentences when the sentence acts as a list (for example addressing the individual vandal attack references). [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  21:14, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
When replying to other users, you tend to quote them sentence by sentence and respond that way (I believe the term for this is a Gish Gallop). While the intent seems to be a response to each point, some of your points end up redundant. At least from a visual standpoint, I think it would be easier to read your argument if you responded in your own section, maybe quoting individual sentences when the sentence acts as a list (for example addressing the individual vandal attack references). [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  21:14, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
:Show specific examples from the Toast debate of redundancy, I do not see it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:12, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
:Show specific examples from the Toast debate of redundancy, I do not see it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:12, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
::Quoting this section of your argument:
::::::::::"''Calling PoD and Emmett "Out of touch dinosaurs that don't do shit" is certainly directed at those users themselves, and not their actions.''"
::::::::::"Out of touch" is an action of theirs. "Don't do shit" is an action of theirs. Was it kindly worded? No. But non kind words =/= attack.
::::::::::"''the "Comments should not be personalized and should be directed at content and actions rather than people." rule is in the [[SW:NPA]] page''"
::::::::::Those were indeed "actions", saying the users' names guilty of those actions is not a personal attack. Read the guidelines on what a personal attack is actually like.
::::::::::...
::::::::::"''which you are doing by outright breaking the rule about not directing comments at users in particular.''"
::::::::::We're not "SuperHappySmashWiki", where you can't say anything that may be construed as negative about another user. It is not forbidden to direct comments at users, nor will it ever be. Learn what a personal attack is.
::::::::::"''And I can say one thing for sure, if I were PoD, I wouldn't take kindly to having those words thrown at me''"
::::::::::If you were PoD and got offended by those words, how about actually get in touch with the community and do shit if you're going to hold on to your admin position?
::All these responses make pretty much the same point, and they were all in a single point. You could have simplified this by just saying "in response to your comments about PoD and Emmett..." and then making your main points. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  00:51, 8 August 2012 (EDT)


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I will brawl anyone that challenges me, regardless of their skill level. If you want to Brawl me, contact me here or on the IRC. If you wish, you can also ask me for my Wii code (to exchange vault data). If you do brawl me, be sure to have tourney rules set. I'm also on the IRC everyday and due to my inconsistent sleeping patterns, you can find me on there in the most unusual of hours.

Le Lyra here

Something has to be done about IRC in my opinion. I don't even care about what happens next, to me or IRC, but hear me out at least. Sure, I was wrong, I'll admit. But it isn't right that I can be called a fag for playing CoD, a game I can genuinely enjoy :/.

What disturbs me most, though, is that policies don't apply to IRC, right? Then shouldn't I have gotten away with what I did? Shwido did (SW:NPA). Anyway, I believe Wiki policies should apply to ANYTHING related or associated with this wiki, no matter if it's part of the domain name or not. Just my 2 cents, and I'm not asking for an unban. (Do I really need to sign? I'm just an IP...) 24.6.47.48 22:12, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

But it isn't right that I can be called a fag for playing CoD, a game I can genuinely enjoy
As PoD already told you, X fag is meaningless in terms of an insult on the internet. New fag, tourney fag, Sonic fag, etc., these aren't actual insults, and taking them as such is foolish on your part. If you're sensitive to the word "fag" being used in some form, you can ask others to not use the word, but do not take it as it calling you a "faggot" in the traditional sense.
What disturbs me most, though, is that policies don't apply to IRC, right?
IRC has its own ruleset, which you can see here SW:IRC.
Then shouldn't I have gotten away with what I did?
No, even if Shwido was guilty of a PA, you attacked and instigated him first.
Shwido did (SW:NPA)
Refer to the previous point about "fag". Being called a "CoD fag" is being called a CoD fanboy, not a personal attack.
Anyway, I believe Wiki policies should apply to ANYTHING related or associated with this wiki, no matter if it's part of the domain name or not.
IRC is a different entity from the Wiki. Blindly applying all SmashWiki policies to IRC is utterly foolish.
Just my 2 cents, and I'm not asking for an unban.
You weren't banned, you were kicked. You're free to reenter the channel whenever you want. When on the receiving end of a serious kick, that is a strong indicator to curb your behavior on the IRC.
Do I really need to sign? I'm just an IP...
Every talk page post must have a time stamp and an easy, immediate way to identify who posted it. There are no exceptions to not signing. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:36, 9 April 2012 (EDT)
Dude, a personal attack is intended for harm. Shwido is not cuber-bullying you. Anyways, arguments can be stopped and by an administrator. We don't need to change the rules.LightningBlue: LBPeep LB Peep.png 18:25, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Can you block me?

BLOCK ME BLOCK ME! - User:Lemmykoopy --User was temp banned for this post

Rename me, please

Hello, OT.

First off, thanks for being an amazing contributor to this wiki and other NIWA wikis. I really appreciate what you've done.

Secondly, could you please rename me DarkFox01? I now have a solid main in Fox, and I don't play Melee that much anymore.

Thanks again! MeleeMarth01 MM01Sig.png 11:58, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

OT isn't a bureaucrat, so he can't rename users. The only active bureaucrats are Toomai and Clarinet Hawk, so try them. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 12:12, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
Toomai dealt with it. DarkFox01 12:41, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

Fine, Sorry for My Behaviour

Look, I only wanted Unknown, someone from yt to come back. I'm sorry for my behaviour, and I promise I WILL help improve the wiki, To make me not welcome here, I have to not be welcome on SmashWikia. Now, take my apologies for my awful behaviour. I have autism.

Around half of the active users here have some form of autism, including a bureaucrat, and they are fully capable of being responsible and well behaved users that contribute constructively to the Wiki. Being autistic is no excuse for your behavior. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 05:48, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
I geel guilt for my behaviour here. I promise to help me iki. Please forgive and that I'm sorry. I will behave. To not come here I have to be unwelcome to the SmmashWikia. I have right to edit whever I want thankyou. Don't block my IP.
You have the right to edit where you want as long as you aren't a stubborn idiot who insists that his edits are always needed and correct. MegaTron1XD:p 10:17, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
CuriousUser, you seriously need to shut the fuck up. Unknown the Hedgehog 17:44, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
Don't tell me to shut up. Now am 16 so you can't boss me about Unknown. Now answer me, I know you will be back on yt soon as you said "Zi'd rather start a whole new account then to spent time with your winging". You're the reason I cam here. Sorry OT, I will help improve the wiki.
Actually, you probably should shut up. You can be 16 all you want, but you have the grammar skills of a child in 4th grade. If you're going to "improve the wiki", you should just leave the wiki. You're making everything worse, and your attempts to improve the Wiki so far include assaulting two users here. Stop being a retard, and go away if you have nothing else to discuss. MegaTron1XD:p 09:58, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

I like your style

Used to be, I'd block an IP and ShadowCrest would be complaining about it and shortening the block. You just up the ban length and range block those fools. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 09:46, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

This particular user is one of those long-term abusers. He's got quite the block history on Wikipedia too. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Jiggy 10:00, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
If I was still active and cared I'd probably complain about this too. As is, I'm not active and don't care-- too lazy to even look up the block you're referring to CH. :p – Emmett 20:38, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

universe category tagging

For example, Mario appearing as a trophy in Brawl but Mario is from the Mario universe but the trophy is from directly from the Super Smash Bros., should I still tag the trophy images with whatever kind of category universe the character or whatever is from that the trophy shows? ..... The StarCraft NintenNESsprite.png 17:31, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Tag with the universe the character is from, except in the case of Smash and Final Smash trophies of characters, which should have a Smash universe tag. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:39, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
So in that case the ones that have a trophy that has info about a character's special moves should not be tagged. ..... The StarCraft NintenNESsprite.png 17:45, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Still no new icons

Seems like ShupaRoeh is being lazy. Smash Master 18:06, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

I would appreciate anyone replacing old icons, it doesn't have to be ShupaRoeh. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:09, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
What new icons? ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 19:27, 26 May 2012 (EDT)
All has now been fixed. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 19:34, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Actually, i had a 3ds at the time. my computer broke, and i was new with replacing icons with 3ds SuperGameandWatchTypicalGuy.png 00:52, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Please read this now.

So, you're an admin. Well, I'm good at what I do as well. What I do is fuck up wikis like this one. Here's the deal: From time to time, I'll drop by and ask some favors of members of your wiki. They will do them. These generally will be things like spamming other sites, supporting certain positions, tweeting support for whatever I tell them to. If you don't agree, I will mess this wiki up. And no, you will not be able to just revert some simple vandalism. I have infinite patience and creativity. You don't want to fuck with me. Deal? 176.31.226.184 11:37, 20 April 2012 (EDT)] --User was temp banned for this post

I have a question

I was just wonder why you keep blocking me? I know you said because i made too many edits, but i was fixing things like spelling and grammar mistakes. So can you just tell me how my edits effect you? Thanks! Mich5643 (talk) 18:23, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

You could either use the preview option or not care as much about your user page. Your user page is not the most important thing on Smash Wiki, so perhaps you could tone down (You should tone down, but that's just me and a bunch of other users). MegaTron1XD:p 18:29, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
If you know you're going to be correcting multiple sections of the same page, try to get all of those changes done in a single edit by clicking the "edit this page" button at the top of the page. Also use the preview button, as Megatron1 has said. 123JamesHeart PatheticStickFigure.jpg 18:48, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
Simply what the two above me said. When editing on the SmashWiki, you do your editing in one edit.
but i was fixing things like spelling and grammar mistakes.
That is exactly what the preview button is for. Use it.
So can you just tell me how my edits effect you?
Every single edit you make appears in the recent changes. When you make a large amount of edits on the same page, you get essentially the same edit taking multiple places on the recent changes. This in turn prematurely knock other edits off the recent changes, and makes it more difficult to spot other edits, including potential vandalism. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:07, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


T-Man

Hey, it's Toriansturgess. Just letting you know for the alternate music page, there is an 87.5 % chance of alternate music playing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toriansturgess (talkcontribs) 23:07, 26 April 2012 (EST)

Are you talking about alternate background music in Melee? If so, the chance is much lower than that. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:45, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

Zeldasmash

I don't know about you, but I think Zeldasmash has worked hard enough to warrant the unprotection of his userspace. He's made some pretty major contributions, such as updating the Matchup Chart a few months back, which would have taken a lot of work. I may not be in a position to say that, but what do you think about it? After all, if he starts clogging everything up again, his userspace can be reprotected again. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:23, 27 April 2012 (EDT)

His userspace edits still account for more than half his edits, while mainspace combined with template accounts for less than a quarter (and he doesn't make constructive contributions elsewhere). Along with that, his editing is off and on, and he has repeatedly tried to evade the userpage locking by editing a subpage (which is a blockable offense). It's going to take more than a couple of matchup chart updates for him to get his userspace unlocked. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:19, 27 April 2012 (EDT)

Sorry

I feel guilt for my behaviour. Unknown the Hedgehog was a good chatpal on yt and I want him back. He will be back one day as he said "I'd Rather Start a Whole New Account than to have you Hassle me". I will help improvbe the wiki. Now, you can't not accept my apology forever like the main page says "Anyone Can Edit". (Reply from OT or UH255). 124.169.96.89 00:35, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

From what I've seen of you, and from what I've heard from a user nearby my area, I think you really should just stop being so naive! He'd rather start a whole new account because you annoy him, so what makes you think he'll come back because of your begging? And anyone can edit, but that doesn't mean your edit always makes sense. You, my good sir, make no sense, so stop bothering people here ^_^ 108.194.146.62 00:43, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
"Anyone can edit" does not mean everyone can do what they want on the Wiki with no consequence. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 04:00, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

Delete

Delete User:Avengingbandit/MatchupCalcSubst please. Avengingbandit 10:24, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

So uh

It's been a month and a half since you've done anything around here, you planning on coming back any time soon? You tend to give reasons for hiatuses so people are a bit curious. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Ghostbuster 18:35, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

Happy Birthday!

Thanks for everything you've done to help out the NIWA! DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 14:29, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Yo

Good to see you back.--Bandit 02:59, 28 July 2012 (EDT)

Don't expect him to stay here, he just wants to Brawl Fugudev, which is understandable, considering Fugudev's skill level. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 09:46, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
He's only probably just visiting once in a while. :P Dots The PSI Asian NintenNESsprite.png 10:59, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
Not to be rude, but he gives me a headache. Smash Master 09:33, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
He sometimes overlooks mistakes. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 09:44, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
And this requires you to make a talk page post why, Smash Master? Sometimes you don't have to have a word in. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 11:05, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

Sorry for the match

Hello, this is Fugudev's brother here. I am coming in to notify you of a dental appointment that Fugudev urgently needed to go to. Even though Fugudev knew of the appointment, he was unclear with the time. He will apologize for this abrupt interruption of gameplay. If you want to, you could list another time to brawl with him. I am replying to make sure that you don't take it like he purposely rage-quit those matches in fear. Once again, I am so sorry for this poor oversight. 68.184.238.232 16:46, 30 July 2012 (EDT)

It's fine, I know what a ragequit is like, and I didn't suspect him of doing it at all. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:03, 30 July 2012 (EDT)
I'm sorry too. FishPlay (talk) 17:33, 30 July 2012 (EDT)

Formatting note

When replying to other users, you tend to quote them sentence by sentence and respond that way (I believe the term for this is a Gish Gallop). While the intent seems to be a response to each point, some of your points end up redundant. At least from a visual standpoint, I think it would be easier to read your argument if you responded in your own section, maybe quoting individual sentences when the sentence acts as a list (for example addressing the individual vandal attack references). Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 21:14, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

Show specific examples from the Toast debate of redundancy, I do not see it. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 02:12, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Quoting this section of your argument:
"Calling PoD and Emmett "Out of touch dinosaurs that don't do shit" is certainly directed at those users themselves, and not their actions."
"Out of touch" is an action of theirs. "Don't do shit" is an action of theirs. Was it kindly worded? No. But non kind words =/= attack.
"the "Comments should not be personalized and should be directed at content and actions rather than people." rule is in the SW:NPA page"
Those were indeed "actions", saying the users' names guilty of those actions is not a personal attack. Read the guidelines on what a personal attack is actually like.
...
"which you are doing by outright breaking the rule about not directing comments at users in particular."
We're not "SuperHappySmashWiki", where you can't say anything that may be construed as negative about another user. It is not forbidden to direct comments at users, nor will it ever be. Learn what a personal attack is.
"And I can say one thing for sure, if I were PoD, I wouldn't take kindly to having those words thrown at me"
If you were PoD and got offended by those words, how about actually get in touch with the community and do shit if you're going to hold on to your admin position?
All these responses make pretty much the same point, and they were all in a single point. You could have simplified this by just saying "in response to your comments about PoD and Emmett..." and then making your main points. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 00:51, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

Frame data

Exactly where can you get frame data? Smash Master 13:31, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Smashboards. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:34, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Or me. :P

  • Kirby's nair in Melee: interruptible on 51, animation length 79
  • Kirby's nair in Brawl: interruptible on 73, animation length 79

While it's incorrect to say that the Brawl version has no interruptibility, one can certainly say that it is significantly reduced. Toomai Glittershine ??? The SMASH-GINEER 19:32, 7 August 2012 (EDT)