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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or possibly less often, if the wiki's status is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 242: Gamer vs. Shadow Moses Island

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
Stealth is the deal with these two stages, though with very different results: a harmless "!" or a violent ejection. Which nighttime excursion finds the victory?
Votes for Gamer Both stages do a great job of representing their source material aesthetically, but Gamer's more fun from a gameplay perspective. Those side walls on Shadow Moses are just annoying in practice. Miles (talk) 12:58, 27 May 2017 (EDT)			Votes for Shadow Moses Island I like the REX/RAY in the background Poultry(talk) the God-Slayer 12:26, 27 May 2017 (EDT) Codec Conversations. Searingjet (talk) 13:04, 27 May 2017 (EDT)
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Round 241: Lucina vs. Roy

		Winner!! Roy 5.5 to 16
Throw-in bonus characters cloned from Marth, but with a very different goal: one unleashes t3h ph1r3 with hilt sweetspots, while the other doesn't care for precision and prefers simplicity. Which one comes out on top?
Votes for Lucina Galeforce is all you need. Miles (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2017 (EDT) Meh Poultry(talk) the God-Slayer 09:57, 20 May 2017 (EDT) This is a no-brainer for me... 20MK_MetaKing #20MK 21:44, 21 May 2017 (EDT) Not a single question in my entire life has been easier to answer. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 04:25, 23 May 2017 (EDT) I always found that the extra strain of having to be at close range for Roy was a major downside. It basically gives him the worst range for any sword fighter. Also Lucina is a waifu. Alex Parpotta (talk) 17:10, 24 May 2017 (EDT) Half-votes This is too easy for me. Lucina Rocks!!!!! -Mapword —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapword (talk • contribs) 17:08, 24 May 2017 (EDT)			Votes for Roy Roy is less of a clone than Lucina is. Searingjet (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2017 (EDT) ROY'S OUR BOY Aidan, the Wandering Dragon Warrior 23:02, 19 May 2017 (EDT) There are many good reasons to vote for Roy over Lucina. He's less of a clone, with mechanics and aesthetics that separate him further from Marth than Lucina. GBA Fire Emblem > Modern Fire Emblem. He should have been on the roster from the start, as one of the three clones. This would have opened up DLC development time for Wolf. He's a fan favorite (our boy), he helped introduce Fire Emblem to international audiences alongside Marth, making him imo the second-most important Fire Emblem character with only Ike challenging that claim, and of course, Roy has t3h ph1r3. John HUAH! 23:06, 19 May 2017 (EDT) *insert generic and overused comment about Roy being my boy here* Disaster Flare (talk) 23:45, 19 May 2017 (EDT) I hate sounding like bias, but you already know my answer. Also where's Ragnarok when you need him? lol -- Beep (talk) 00:17, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Roy fits a niche that I don't see many other characters cover: he is a good transition character between swordfighters and brawlers. Roy has the tools of a spacing character, but he doesn't want to space for the entire game unlike Marth and Lucina. He wants to safely close in and land a grab, akin to most brawlers in this game, and his combined combo and tech chase game are some of the best a Smash 4 swordfighter could ask for. b2jammer (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Roy 4ever! Even better than Marth!Rimigafob (talk) 11:47, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Sure, they're both clones of Marth, but Roy is our boy. (Roy also doesn't have blue hair like Marth) Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 12:06, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Lucina is just Marth without the thing that makes Marth interesting. Zyrac(talk•contribs) 12:21, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Another no-brainer in my opinion. Better if it had been Ike vs. Roy. DracoRexKing, Creator of the Land 13:00, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Roy's our boy! He is a great Fire Emblem combatant in Melee and I like him! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:22, 20 May 2017 (EDT) Roy is much more different than Marth, so I prefer him over Lucina. Also he keeps the original netural B in Smash 4, so that's a plus. --Vinc420 (talk) 00:20, 21 May 2017 (EDT) Because of the fire and also because FE Heroes makes him look cooler, plus introduced me to a ton of FE characters because of FE Heroes, so yeah. Pika Just got Pokemon Alpha Sapphire! 19:14, 21 May 2017 (EDT) Okay, I know that some people, including Fire Emblem fans themselves, call Roy a little shit but he, along with Marth of course, helped popularized the series to North America and I don't see why hating fans don't respect that. MHStarCraft 19:16, 21 May 2017 (EDT) Roy's hilt sweetspot mechanic is a quality unique to him as a character. Lucina's sword is functionally identical to all of the other swords in the SSB series. Combos are possible with both characters, but Roy's weapon stands out from the rest. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 19:31, 23 May 2017 (EDT) I love cracking a cold one with our boy. ChuckNorris  20:58, 26 May 2017 (EDT)
Comments Tough choice... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapword (talk • contribs) 17:06, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

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