Peach (SSBM)/Down special

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Overview

Hitbox duration of a turnip pull.

Hitbox duration of a turnip throw whilst grounded.

Peach's down special move is known as Vegetable, and involves her pulling out turnips from the ground. The faces of the turnips pulled vary, with each one being unique in terms of damage and knockback dealt. Different turnips are pulled out randomly, though the more powerful ones are rarer. The weakest and most common turnip is the normal, "smiley face" turnip, whereas the strongest and rarest turnip is the infamous Stitch Face. Peach can also pull out a Mr. Saturn, Bob-omb, or Beam Sword, though these are rarer than even the Stitch Face. Peach's turnips are known as very useful projectiles, due to being able to keep opponents at bay and assist in aerial combos and gimping offstage opponents, and are a large part of Peach's stage control in general.

Aside from the aforementioned uses, Peach's down special serves an important use as an anti-camping measure, especially in the Jigglypuff matchup. Ordinarily, Jigglypuff can air camp Peach due to her slow dash and run speeds, and difficulty ascending vertically due to her delayed double jump. However, much like Giant Punch and Charge Shot, Vegetable can force an approach on the part of the opponent due to the threat of it providing Peach a powerful option that, if it doesn't outright KO, will rack up a lot of damage. Unlike the two aforementioned moves, this is not because it can be charged, but because of the chance of a Bob-omb or Stitch Face pull. It is for this reason that applying constant pressure to Peach is a near necessity.

All turnips will do 5-7% damage when dropped with a neutral Z or when knocked loose by an opponent. Damage of normal turnip throws varies depending on the type of throw and the distance that the turnip travels in the air. The math used to calculate turnip damage can be found here, or in the section below.

Hitboxes

The damage values given for the items below are their base damages. The actual damage a thrown item deals is calculated using this formula: base damage - 0.4 + item speed * 3; the only exception to this is the Bob-omb, which will always deal 25%.

Turnips

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			Clang	Rebound	Effect	G	A	Sound	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable
Regular
0	0	2%	0		25	60	0	2.3436	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						Shell Hit
Winky
0	0	6%	0		25	60	0	2.3436	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						Shell Hit
Dot Eyes
0	0	12%	0		25	60	0	2.3436	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						Shell Hit
Stitch Face
0	0	30%	0		25	60	0	2.3436	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						Shell Hit

Mr. Saturn

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			Clang	Rebound	Effect	G	A	Sound	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable
Vs. Ground
0	0	3%	21		10	50	0	0.0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						? ?
Vs. Aerial
0	0	3%	21		10	50	0	0.0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						? ?

Bob-omb

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			Clang	Rebound	Effect	G	A	Sound	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable
0	0	25%	0		30	90	0	0.0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						? ?

Beam Sword

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			Clang	Rebound	Effect	G	A	Sound	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable
0	0	5%	0		10	100	0	0.0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0						? ?

Timing

Turnip generated	?
Animation length	29

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)

Lag time

Hitbox

Prop event

Parameters

Move

Chance of getting a non-turnip item	1/128
Relative odds of getting a Mr. Saturn	3 (0.391%)
Relative odds of getting a Bob-omb	2 (0.260%)
Relative odds of getting a Beam Sword	1 (0.130%)

Turnip differences

Parameter	Turnip type
	Smiley	Bored	Sleepy	Shocked	Laughing	Wink	Dot-eyes	Stitch-face
Base damage	2%	2%	2%	2%	2%	6%	12%	12%
Relative odds of appearing	35	6	5	3	3	4	1	1
Chance with turnip pull	60.345%	10.345%	8.621%	5.172%	5.172%	6.897%	1.724%	1.724%
Overall chance	59.873%	10.264%	8.553%	5.132%	5.132%	6.843%	1.711%	1.711%

References

Peach's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back)
Edge attack (fast) · Edge getups (fast) · Edge attack (slow) · Edge getups (slow)
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special