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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or possibly less often, if the wiki's status is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 238: Tingle vs. Isabelle

 
 Winner!!
undecided

~ to ~
 
These two Assist Trophies like to throw useful items into the battle. Which is seen as more helpful?

Votes for Tingle

  1. Tingle changes the outcome of a match to a much more impactful extent than does Isabelle. In the world of Super Smash Bros., it's kill or be killed. A meager fruit from Isabelle will not harm your opponent; a Hammer or Golden Hammer from Tingle might just provide that bone-breaking force necessary to shatter your opponents' spirits, not to mention their skulls. The question that binds this Smash Arena round is really this: which do you value more, gaining health for yourself or making others lose health? I, personally, believe that you can't win if you don't make others lose. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  2. Tingle Tingle Kallopa(Psychninja14 (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2015 (EST))
  3. Tingle has just the best personality out of any Zelda character, and he's just awesome. Tingle, Tingle, Kuloo-Limpah! (FlawedAI)
  4. Koolim..PA! I love all the stuff he does. It's hilarious.   Pika, Chilly! 09:24, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  5. --75.156.151.217 16:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  6. Isabelle throws fruit. That's all. Tingle can give you Hammers, Superspicy Curry, or Banana Peels, zoom the camera in on one player, or fly away in a balloon. And, disregarding the great amount of variety here, who wants a dog that JINGLES LIKE MONEY? That's either extremely creepy or extremely rude, neither of which are that great in my mind. AmoongussForLife (talk) 19:27, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  7. Most people hate Tingle, but I've always found him kinda funny. #TingleForSSB5 ChuckNorris   17:12, 22 December 2015 (EST)
  8. Isabelle is lame. She never did anything for you asides sit behind a counter. Tingle, on the other hand, sells you maps and deciphers them for you. That's... pretty useful, actually.--BaconMaster331 (talk) 14:10, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Votes for Isabelle

  1. She gets my vote for being adorable and helpful. Berrenta (talk) 00:30, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  2. She actually heals the player; unlike Tingle who makes you lose by spawning hammers which the opponents would most likely get. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 00:59, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  3. Isabelle is cute, and very useful when at high percentage.   INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 05:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  4. I see it as adorable vs. creepy, helpful vs. harmful. Yes, Tingle can actually damage your opponents, but some of his effects may hinder you too. Isabelle is basically always helping the summoner. And she's not creepy. (At least, not Tingle-level creepy.) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 07:11, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  5. gets my vote because when i get tingle he never does anything helpful to me Nintendofan1653 (talk) 07:50, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  6. Tingle isn't always exactly helpful, so...  Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 10:17, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  7. At least Isabelle is helpful EVERY time you summon her. Also, in Wind Waker, I found Tingle to be as obnoxious as Kiddy Kong. --MeatBall104   11:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  8. I don't think I have experienced Isabelle as an assist trophy yet because I don't play with items but Tingle isn't helped by the fact that he isn't so well received by the western society (if any of you find the following link offensive, you can remove it) so I guess Isabelle gets my vote. Dots (talk)   The Sleepy 14:07, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  9. Because she actually helps me on the field. 75.141.57.33 14:54, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  10. Is actually helpful and isn't creepy 180.95.41.149 20:06, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  11. There are many, many reasons why I vote Isabelle over Tingle. For starters, Isabelle's cute, Tingle is ugly and gives you that 'kill it with fire' reaction. Another thing, Isabelle's helpful, both in Smash and in Animal Crossing. All Tingle was ever good for was deciphering maps, but he always charges an insane amount of Rupees for his services. Also, he's enslaved his brothers, as seen in Wind Waker. Need I say more? Disaster Flare   (talk) 20:43, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  12. Isabelle actually helps you in Animal Crossing. Tingle's just kinda...there...  Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior  09:59, 7 December 2015 (EST)
  13. Two words: NOT. CREEPY! 98.157.202.185 16:30, 8 December 2015 (EST)
  14. Isabelle is my choice! She helps fighters and made her racing debut in Mario Kart 8. That is why I love this character! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 23:07, 8 December 2015 (EST)
  15. Waluigi, Togepi, Isabelle - Tingle's Smash Arena foes get progressively more adorable ZatannaCobblepot (talk) 01:03, 10 December 2015 (EST)
  16. Simply because she's adorable and 100% helpful, unlike Mr. Oh-god-please-no. It's not like this has already been mentioned 10 times... Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2015 (EST)
  17. C u t e . Nymbare and his talk 09:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)
  18. Tingle's ugly.69.34.130.170 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)
  19. You know what? I think I like dogs more since I have recently discovered the meme doge.   Pika, Chilly! 15:39, 22 December 2015 (EST)
  20. Per everyone. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 22:20, 26 December 2015 (EST)
  21. Adorable. Is an animal. Is not creepy and ugly. Throws at you helpful items 100% of the time. And demonstrates emotion whenever who summoned it does an action. --  Happy Holidays from BeepYou :] 22:27, 26 December 2015 (EST)
  22. ADORABLE. Helps 100% of the time in-game. The opposition is downright creepy.-Green Machine

Comments

HOPY SHIT ANOTHER SMASH ARENA! 69.34.130.170 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Am I allowed to switch my vote?   Pika, Chilly! 19:55, 15 December 2015 (EST)

yes pikaplayer just cross your vote out. Nintendofan1653 (talk) 18:59, 18 December 2015 (EST)
Thanks a lot! :)   Pika, Chilly! 15:52, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Round 237: Battleship Halberd vs. Isle of the Ancients

 
 Winner!!
Battleship Halberd
 

41 to 17.5
 
Both taken over and later destroyed by the Subspace Army, these two high-tech high-powered fortresses are now in another battle. Does the swordsman's airship or the robots' homeland come out on top?

Votes for Battleship Halberd

  1. Its got Zelda and Falco in it. Also Subspace Bomb Factory Part II gets really annoying on harder difficulties. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 23:40, 18 April 2015 (EDT)
  2. As cool as floating islands are, Revenge of Meta Knight is just too awesome to let this pass un-voted. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 00:20, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  3. I like this area in the actual Kirby games. MarioIsTheBest (talk) 08:44, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  4. I'm not very fond of original Smash Bros locations. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 11:50, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  5. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the SSE. However, the main problem I had with it was the huge emphasis on original areas and enemies, (seriously, this is a crossover, why not focus more on places and enemies from the various universes?). Thus, I pick Halberd, since it's not an original Smash location, and it's also one of my favorite stages in Brawl. MeatBall104; You Will Know My Name! 12:31, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  6. I like Kirby series and I have no idea what the other is.68.109.72.5 13:20, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  7. Dots (talk)   The Metal Gear REX 13:43, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  8. 180.149.192.139 17:16, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  9. I am afraid of brawl. go to my userpage to find out why: i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk)tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 18:28, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
  10. I liked this stage in Subspace more anyways, and I love Kirby more than Sonic. F0rZ3r0F0r (talk) 22:26, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
  11. 1.152.97.84 22:40, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
  12. Halberd is amazing. --Timson622222 (talk) 22:42, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
  13. SonicfanXD (talk) 12:42, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
  14. The Halberd always seemed like an overwrought mess, especially for a Kirby game. Seemed like it needed half the population of Pop Star to even run, and yet, they still couldn't hold off one pink puffball. That's precisely why I love it so. --Fubaka (talk) 12:24, 23 April 2015 (EDT)
  15. 121.223.164.229 06:12, 24 April 2015 (EDT)
  16. Favorite Brawl stage 73MPL4R Only the dead have seen the end of war 15:32, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
  17. Best Stage EVER also the other stage is dumb halberd is cool kirbys are cute this poem makes no sense...Microwave Hyper Nintendo (talk) 07:30, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
  18. A great Brawl stage indeed! Kirby fights there in various Kirby games so, I agree! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 11:12, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
  19. The only spaceship I know to wear a mask. Dashiell (talk) 22:21, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
  20. I was extremly happy to crush people as Sheik on the battleship, so it has one more vote from me! This is also my first edit, so let me know if I did something wrong. LittleMacmain97 (talk) 18:45, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
  21. Hurray for Kirby. --75.130.201.118 21:06, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
  22.   Mesuxelf 13:43, 6 May 2015 (EDT)
  23. Patiently waiting for a Halberd kart in Mario Kart 8. ChuckNorris   14:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
  24. Because Kirby. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:22, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
  25. Because Mk is my main and I don't like the Sonic the Hedgehog series Blizzard-Star (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2015 (EDT)Blizzard-Star
  26. Let's see. Halberd has turrets, a cannon, a...weird arm thing(?), energy bombs and a badass look. Isle of Ancients...well... Serpent King (talk) 21:50, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
  27. Despite having the Halberd being crushed, it still has a great defense to it, like those cannons there. The Isle of Ancients is nice, but the Halberd is highly more efficientEmiliaTheHyperSniper (talk) 22:25, 24 June 2015 (EDT) EmiliaTheHyperSniper (talk)
  28. When theres Meta Knight, get REKT! SparkyPikachu (talk)
  29. The Kirby Series is awesome; therefore, Battleship Halberd is awesome! AmoongussForLife (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2015 (EDT)
  30. Not too familiar with the Isle of the Ancients. RevengeOfMetaKnight (talk) 12:22, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
  31. Besides just being a kirby fan, I really like this location better, because the isle if ancients was never pleasing or memorable to me in any way. The halberd is cooler imo, and I actually remember playing it. TheAtomicFire   18:15, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
  32. I think I'll go with the Halberd on this one. It's an actual weapon, isn't a big, rocky, defenseless target in the middle of nowhere, and isn't derivative. Isle of the Ancients? Sonic 3 & Knuckles wants its island back. Hawk 21 Talk 03:33, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
  33. A badass battleship against an island? Yeah, pretty obvious. Plus I don't like the Sonic franchise at all. WiserThanYou (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
  34. Battleship halberd is a manacing battleship, whereas Isle of the Ancients is... An island inhabited by R.O.B.s? Easy choice here... Halberd gets my vote! INoMed, King of Demons 10:12, 29 August 2015 (EDT)
  35. Per INoMed. Ganonmew (talk) 12:27, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
  36. I like Kirby-verse so ye --Myth   09:05, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
  37. It's a dark and misterious stage, but it's a super stage and all loves SmashAri 20:42, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
  38. because meta knight. Elitemagikarp (talk) 15:50, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
  39. All I can say is Meta Knight is awesome. Who doesn't like Meta Knight? User:ThePikaPlayer 10:02, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
  40. I guess I'll finally vote. Halberd is one of the only stages in Project M I didn't replace music for. Why is that? Because Gourmet Race is one of the best songs ever added to Smash Bros. Besides that, I think the Halberd is the cooler contestant here. John   PK SMAAAASH!! 13:29, 4 November 2015 (EST)
  41. There isn't much to know about the Isle besides the fact that there is now a ROB factory on it (unless there's some hidden lore I don't know about). Aqua Shield (talk)   19:01, 9 November 2015 (EST)

Votes for Isle of the Ancients

  1. ZatannaCobblepot (talk) 02:50, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  2. Because I'm a Sonic fan and the Isle of the Ancients looks mysteriously like Angel Island.  Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura  13:41, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  3. Subspace Bomb Factory Part 2 is my favorite stage in the Subspace Emissary. 71.108.116.104 14:28, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  4. This is where R.O.B.s are made. R.O.B. is in Mario Kart DS. I like Mario Kart games. I like chocolate. Chocolate is food. Food is tasty. R.O.B. is not. It all loops around. 72.105.4.229 15:47, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
  5. 147.41.128.34 02:12, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
  6. AUDI FAMAM ILLIUS Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 14:48, 24 April 2015 (EDT)
  7. The Isle Of The Ancients had at one point been a rich society of happiness and fortune, but that all ended when the events of the Subspace Emissary began. After this adventure mode, R. O. B. becomes the last of his kind, not to mention (spoiler alert) that he was a driving force in killing off his own brethren when he posed as the Ancient Minister. The story of R. O. B. and the Isle Of The Ancients is one of tragic pain and eternal sadness, while the Battleship Halberd went through virtually neither trial nor tribulation. Unlike R. O. B.'s home, it saw pretty much no suffering; unlike R. O. B.'s home, it's history was not nullified; and unlike R. O. B.'s home, the race that prospered, danced, and thrived on it was not wiped out, with the exception of a lone survivor, who became forced to bear the heavy weight of the death of his species, including his family and friends. More than that, because one could posit that robots are technically immortal (since they had no natural life to begin with), R. O. B. must carry these nightmares over his shoulder literally forever, without any beautiful, merciful end. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:27, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
  8. It has Captain Falcon, therefruit is an instant win Kenniky   13:22, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
  9. It's like [Hyrule] Temple chopped in half. And Temple could do to be chopped in half. Toast  ltimatum 14:27, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
  10. Reasons. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!  09:47, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
  11. It wasn't used to take over a country. PikaSamus (talk)   11:27, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
  12. The first reasons listed, plus having the only Mario Kart driver in its series to be MKDS-exclusive. --MandL27 (talk) 13:09, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
  13. Same reason as everyman or nobody. Plus it looks eerily similar to a sonic location... 2.202.236.11 15:02, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
  14. Floating islands ftw. Takava (talk) 19:35, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
  15. RickTommy 21:59, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
  16. Pitoo (talk) 21:21, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
  17. just... R.O.B thats all i got to say Nintendofan1653 (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Half Votes

  1. Its story is so cool! Likeaboss4$maSh (talk)

Comments

Okay, #4 Isle of Ancients... what even... Also, Everyman, why are your votes always so DEEP?!

Everyman you should shorten your votes and also sign your comments the guy above me use the ~ key 3 times Hyper Nintendo (talk) 07:32, 27 April 2015 (EDT)

Nope; four ~ are needed. Three gives just the signature without the timestamp. Berrenta (talk) 12:19, 22 June 2015 (EDT)

I've noticed that a lot of people think that Isle of Ancients is from Sonic. I think this is because if Aidan's comment, but I'm not sure. LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch. (talk) 22:21, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

It's not actually a Sonic stage since he doesn't appear until the very end of the Subspace Emissary. Besides, the SA Box features a R.O.B. symbol, not a Sonic symbol. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 23:01, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

This fight has been up for over 2 months. When we are going to get a new one? Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 09:40, 22 June 2015 (EDT)

With events so big like E3, we might not even get a new match until the end of summer or even November (Yes, there was a 6 month hiatus before). Dots (talk)   The Zero 10:30, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
True, but there was nothing Smash-related really big at E3 this year. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 21:48, 22 June 2015 (EDT)

Everyman should just off the smash arena also,smash arena updates when the wiki is NOT on yellow —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Hyper Nintendo (talk • contribs) 00:32, 30 June 2015 (EDT)

The Smash Arena progressed on a yellow status before. It was on a hiatus when the wiki was on a red status. Also, next time, sign your posts with ~~~~. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 01:10, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
  1. I said it reminded me of Angel Island. I didn't say it was.
  2. I think it's about time this thing got changed as well.
 Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura  09:07, 10 August 2015 (EDT)

I'm ready for a new Smash Arena, there are a lot of good suggestions for you to choose from, so I think it needs a change. Even though the winner of this one's pretty obvious. 75.141.44.151 17:40, 13 August 2015 (EDT)

The first vote dates back to April 18th, and it is now September 3rd. I think it's time for a new one.  Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura  09:16, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

The sad thing is that we are still on the status of a ton of business to do. Smash Arena has very low priority as of right now but I would agree that it has been a year since Smash 4. Compared to that date to our current state, its not as bad, but unless if we try finishing up all that is to get caught up on quickly, Smash Arena is going nowhere for another 6 months or so. Dots (talk)   The Kamehameha 21:35, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
I agree there's still work to be done, but I think updating this thing soon couldn't hurt the progress being done that much... I'm gonna go update the Floor Attack page now. (Almost had it done last week, and then my internet crashed and my progress wasn't saved...) AmoongussForLife (talk) 17:02, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
Aidan is right. I think. I hope. This is getting OLD. Pika, Poyo Poyo Poyo (talk) 14:16, 3 November 2015 (EST)
Btw, 75.141.44.151, it is obvious.   Pika, Wild Turkey appeared! Talkz 19:28, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Still waiting.... 76.5.56.188 19:00, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

This is me waiting for a new Smash Arena  Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura  10:21, 12 October 2015 (EDT)

Be my guest. Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock... When will it end?!?!?!? ThePikaPlayer (talk) 08:25, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
The same way I feel like when the SmashWiki IRC channel is still linked on the main page despite nobody going there anymore. :/ Dots (talk)   The Ball 19:35, 3 November 2015 (EST)
You mean nobody at all goes there? I thought it was just me(JK).  Pika, Wild Turkey appeared! Talk 15:54, 6 November 2015 (EST)

I honestly don't expect there to ever be a new Smash Arena 75.141.57.33 16:08, 17 November 2015 (EST)

Let's face it. It's safe to say Smash Arena has been abandoned. 76.5.56.188 19:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Sign with four (AND ONLY FOUR) tildes (~) please. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:26, 28 November 2015 (EST)
Says the person who didn't sign. 76.5.56.188 19:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)
That is their signature...  Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 19:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)

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