User talk:Omega Tyrant

If someone leaves a comment asking me something, please do not answer them for me unless I'm clearly offline

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I play Smash U with anyone that challenges me, regardless of their skill level, as long as you aren't someone with an unwarranted ego that will make excuses about the "lag made me play bad!". If you want to play me, contact me here and add my NNID. If you do play me, be sure to have tourney rules set unless noted otherwise.

If there's something you wish to speak to me privately, and cannot catch me on IRC (or cannot use IRC for whatever reason), you can contact me with email.

Favorite

Don't mean to bother you, but out of curiosity, what's your favorite Smash title (including mods like BB)? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 02:37, 16 August 2015 (EDT)

He's not active at the moment but if you don't mind answering for you, I can probably assume that Smash 4 is his favorite Smash game; with mods counting, I would say Brawl- for overall favorite. Dots (talk) The Left 4 Dead 03:03, 16 August 2015 (EDT)

Your favorite's Brawl Minus? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 03:05, 16 August 2015 (EDT)

Roster Contest

Hey, I was just wondering, whatever happened to that SSB4 roster contest you had a couple years ago? ChuckNorris  19:08, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

Will update it eventually, I knew I won the initial release and then grew inactive from here, so I just forgot about it. Omega Tyrant 08:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

IK you're semi active but here's a CSS script..

Here is the script. (Feel free to use it in whatever way you like, including using it as part of the interface) a.whorb { background: url(/images/thumb/0/0b/Rollback.png/14px-Rollback.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 0 15px; } a.whobot { background: url(/images/thumb/1/17/Bot.png/14px-Bot.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 0 15px; } a.whoadmin { background: url(/images/thumb/4/46/Administrator.png/14px-Administrator.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 0 15px; } a.whocrat { background: url(/images/thumb/5/5c/Bureaucrat.png/14px-Bureaucrat.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 0 15px; } a.whodev { background: url(/images/thumb/3/32/Developer.png/14px-Developer.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 0 15px; } INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 14:43, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Just a quick just-in-case-it-wasn't-noticed-earlier...

Could I request that, as much as you despise the userbase, you stay for a little? We've had more than 15 bad faith violations, and 6 vandals in 4 days, and the admins are little help: two are rarely active anymore, and the other isn't active at the right time or outright is uninformed until 10 minutes of violating. We could use your help. (Also, I'm Andyjraliw Bianchi from YouTube). Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 15:44, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Nah I burnt out on wiki stuff and arguing with Miles over something that should be obvious isn't an appealing use of my time. I'll come and go when I do. Omega Tyrant 08:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Settle it in Smash?

Maybe we can go against each other sometime? Smash Master 16:21, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Well...

"as long as you aren't someone with an unwarranted ego that will make excuses about the "lag made me play bad!""

According to this, it seems that you feel that I haven't changed a bit over the years. Well guess what? I decided to drop my unnecessary ego and am no longer whiny about lag. Smash Master 21:59, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Don't know why you made a separate section for this, but oh hi Smash Master. Omega Tyrant 08:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Yeah, looking back at it, I should've put it in my earlier section. And hi. Smash Master 13:33, 11 November 2015 (EST)

See my below section with Chilex about my wifi situation. Alternatively, follow my youtube channel and look for when I do a "vs. subscribers" thing. Omega Tyrant 13:49, 11 November 2015 (EST)

You've been on a lot recently. What gives?

What gives? I thought you are semi active. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 07:06, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

Semi-Active means they are on usually three times or less a month and rarely make edits. OT has not made a single edit since the Alph controversy between him and Miles, which was months ago. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 13:36, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

You have Rob in your sig, I like you. Omega Tyrant 08:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

TBH, that was pure coincidence, as I did not take into account that my signature image happens to be related to one of your SSB4 mains, R.O.B.! INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 09:04, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Hi

Welcome back, Omega. - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:12, 5 November 2015 (EST)

Hi. Omega Tyrant 08:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Your inactivity: allow me to explain

So...the definition of semi-active is that they appear rather frequently but inconsistently. Inactive means they haven't been seen in over a month or choose to be inactive. The fact that you said in the last section that you're tired of arguing with people on the wiki, and the fact that you've only just started making edits since the Alph controversy, would constitute as inactive. By your logic, Porplemontage is semi-active too. Also, never in my life did I think both of our worst characters would become your main someday (though I have been switching to the dark side lately...). Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 08:41, 11 November 2015 (EST)

" I'll come and go when I do. "

I.e. semi-active. Now you're really gonna dispute over something obvious? Omega Tyrant 08:44, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Woops. Thanks for clearing that up. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 08:47, 11 November 2015 (EST)

So now that you're back.

Please play me in Smash 4. Chilex (talk) 09:30, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Saying I'm "back" nebulous, but anyway, finding a time I'm free to play without lag is tough, you'll usually either have to be free during around 9am-2pm on weekdays, or really late night/early morning, and then see if I'm available and in the mood to play. Omega Tyrant 10:49, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Why not today? It's a weekday (a holiday, albeit) so once you're done with your errands, we can perhaps play later. Unfortunately due to my school-adjusted sleep schedule, really late/early morning will not do. If you feel this topic isn't fit for the Wiki, let's talk on reddit. Chilex (talk) 10:59, 11 November 2015 (EST)

And since it's a holiday, that means others are home using up the internet, which means we would lag heavily. Omega Tyrant 11:05, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Hello.

There is something about your attitude that deeply concerns me, and I know I'm going to regret even bringing it up, but nothing ever revolves around what I want so.

Here's the situation. You take unannounced hiatuses from the wiki for months at a time. That's fine; even I get bored of it occasionally, and it's not reasonable to force people to say "I'm out for a while" somewhere. However, here we have a problem, or two problems in fact:

1. After your hiatus is over, you return to find a change you don't like, and proceed to say a one-liner of basically "this is terrible". Do you honestly think this comment and its delivery is going to help anyone? I don't understand the thought process that starts with that kind of comment and results in "yes, this is a good idea that will help me get what I want". There are dozens of ways you could voice displeasure with something while simultaneously being helpful about it, and while you did later get there, the point is you didn't appear to try in the first place.
2. Given that our number of staff members is low, it looks bad to have an admin that repeatedly vanishes without notice for months at a time, only to return and immediately stir up a bunch of crap. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to do so - some things do need to be stirred up by a fresh pair of eyes - but it still looks bad when someone leaves, comes back, and complains about things changing when they weren't here.

I'm not really going anywhere with this, and I'm not sure if I want/would read a reply; I'm just making a pair of troubling observations that you should have the ability to do something about. And in the midst of it, I come to a third one: If you weren't an admin, and you were to make an RfA, I'd fail it because your knowledge of smasher notability and high-level play is dwarfed by a lack of activity/reliability and an apparent refusal to compromise with others. If you're going to claim that someone shouldn't be an admin, maybe you should first ensure people can't say the same about you.

To make it 100% clear instead of 99.999% clear, people who aren't OT are not to respond to this. Toomai Glittershine The Keymaster 12:11, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Point 1: A section titled "ew" should obviously be indicative of a half-joking remark; when pressed, I provided more constructive posts.

Point 2: I take issue with this; commenting in opposition to something going on isn't "stirring up shit" (especially when it's constructive), nor is defending the addition to an article like the Alph thing (regardless of how obvious an inclusion the addition is). You should know better than to treat opposition like that. From what I see, if you're going to complain to anyone about "stirring up shit", say something to the users that repeatedly insist on saying everywhere "oh no that mean old OT might see and write big posts at Miles!", that clogged up Miles' RfB and talkpages elsewhere with a bunch of posts completely useless for anything but escalating conflict (seriously, why let that RfB's comments get clogged up with that shit?).

Third point: We'll break this down by subpoints. Activity-level, yeah this isn't relevant; in a hypothetical world where everything is the same except my adminship, it's moot as I (nor any sensible user) wouldn't be requesting adminship when they aren't fully active with the wiki. Additionally, one not being fully active doesn't diminish from their admin capabilities. Reliability, when have I ever proven unreliable? Even when I stopped being fully active on the wiki, if someone asked me off-wiki to help with something (or even posted on my talk page), I would respond and take care of it. Refusal to compromise, yeah this is pretty much bogus too; when a compromise is a viable and sensible solution, I do it. Not going for a "compromise" when there isn't a golden mean =! "can't compromise". Don't fall for the golden mean fallacy.

And for the final point, regardless of if I "should be an admin" or not, that's pretty much an ad hominem fallacy; whether you think a user should be an admin or not does not render their judgment of another user's admin capabilities invalid. I personally find you to not be an admin I think is suitable for a bureaucrat, but I of course know in itself that isn't a valid reason to try attacking your "I wouldn't make you an admin" point.

For one more thing, I can't help but feel a spiteful tone from this post, especially after all my interactions with you in the past couple of years. Omega Tyrant 13:10, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Well let's start this off with me agreeing that I shouldn't be a bureaucrat, so at least we have something there. Actually, would you say that the wiki hasn't had any bcrat candidates as a whole, like literally zero, since Emmett left? We're just a bunch of fighting game nerds arguing over who has the least bad people skills really, it's kind of difficult to find someone who's actually good at both worlds.

Numbah 1: I have a family member who acts exactly like this: he's not known to joke, so the one time he tries to make a joke, everyone assumes he's still being serious and things go sour. So okay partly my fault for misinterpreting, but I'd say I wasn't the only one.

Numbeh 2: I was attempting to say that showing up late to a mostly-concluded argument just...doesn't look right even if it is. I dunno, it's like you come home after being away at university, and your parents are getting ready to paint the kitchen yellow, and you say it's unfair they decided that when you weren't there. You might still have a valid argument, but better communication earlier could have make things go more smoothly in the first place...I'm kind of stream-of-thought-ing trying to extract my thoughts, but I hope you get the idea. It's like I'm trying to say "if you don't want things to change while you're away, don't leave", except I don't want people to feel obligated to hang around somewhere they're not sufficiently invested in.

Numero 3: "Compromise" is not strictly equivalent to "find a position in the middle of two extremes". Sometimes, it's recognizing that you are being outvoted in a debate where no more discussion will help, and you need to stop pushing your agenda regardless of how correct you think it is. My usage of "reliability" was basically an error; I wasn't sure whether to pick that or "activity", and missed it when I did my final pass before saving the edit. And I would disagree that "not being fully active doesn't diminish from their admin capabilities"; sure, blocking fools and the like doesn't suffer from long periods of being away, but being "out of the loop" can be a problem when it comes to disputes and proposals. Not that I would expect a wiki's culture to change that much in a month, but still. (In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, I should consider doing some demotions of the staff who haven't even showed up in over a year. Hmm. I think this has been discussed before, I'll have to go find it.)

Number 4: My point as a whole was supposed to read as something like "you're not making yourself look any better than the guy you're criticizing".

I don't know really. You're an asset to the wiki, but it just seems like too often you try to make things difficult on everyone else, and I don't know what can be done to repair your (mostly undeserved) poor reputation amongst the general userbase outside just doing positive things without raising anyone's ire. It sucks on both sides honestly, and right now I'm just trying to understand everyone's mindset. Toomai Glittershine The Rainbow 14:23, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Ignoring myself (I thought I would have been a suitable b'crat back then, I even almost ran for it a few years ago and had support from you and a few other established users, but then put it off when that Amy/Solar Dragon scandal blew up and never was invested enough in the wiki again to try), I can see Monsieur Crow being a suitable bureaucrat, and maybe HavocReaper and Megatron1 back when they were all active (shame they never even ran for adminship). Despite my own personal conflicts with him, PenguinofDeath would have been a suitable bureaucrat too if he was fully invested into the wiki and in the greater Smash community. I have little experience with Nyargle and never took a look through his history, so I can't judge his capabilities. Overall though, I can't fault Emmett for making you a bureaucrat, to function the wiki needed at least one bureaucrat who could be expected to show up somewhat frequently or otherwise was easily contactable, and Miles was as bad a candidate back then that he is now, while I can understand why Emmett chosen you over me (especially when me and him were not on good terms at the end).

For point 2, again I will have to oppose this assertion. The wiki isn't static, its policies and guidelines are always opened to being revised and revoked. So while I may have miss the initial proposal, me (and other users) are liable to come in and speak of our disapproval whenever we come back around. Sure it would have been better if I was there during the proposing; it's always easier to prevent a policy/guideline from being made official than to revoke it once it's in place and enforced (just like it's much easier to deny someone adminship/bureaucrat than it is to demote him, hence why I'm so vehemently opposed to "why not?" promotions or candidates I otherwise strongly disapprove of), but that doesn't mean one should just throw up their hands if they missed the initial proposal.

Point 3, the wiki never operated on "vote count", and it's a very dangerous mindset to have that one shouldn't speak out in disagreement if it's goes against the crowd (especially when said crowd may not be the most informed crowd, how much of the users supporting Miles' RfB for example are actually fully aware of his conduct throughout his 7-year adminship tenure and don't just think "oh he's that nice admin OT doesn't like?"). In cases where I wasn't supported and didn't have strong arguments, I have backed off (like that push to delete userpages of inactive users). Just because we rarely find ourselves in a position where I actually lack strong arguments doesn't mean I never bow out.

Regarding activity, if one hasn't been around in a very long time, nor been involved in the greater Smash community, then yeah their capabilities to administrate here would be reasonably diminished. For an admin that been semi-active within the wiki itself and been fully involved in Smash as a whole, their abilities will still be reasonably intact and would take like a week of getting to know all the new users to acclimate fully.

Point 4, it's still an ad hominem, whether one thinks I'm better than Miles or not doesn't impact the arguments I have against his capabilities.

Regarding reputation, from what I observed, new users always tended to view me negatively, just on the basis of the fact I'm more brash/blunt and am the admin who is/was most willing to put his foot down. Then those who stick around, and get to know me and the rest of the userbase, generally start viewing me much more positively, as they see I'm much more personable than an initial first impression may let on, and they see the tremendous asset I provide (FirstaLasto once even gave me a first hand explanation of this). Of course a few end up just not liking me or even developing a grudge against me regardless, though that's pretty much unavoidable when one tends to be outspoken and assertive. Omega Tyrant 00:37, 12 November 2015 (EST)

I thought about it, and...

I'm really sorry for what a mess Dots, SK, and I (particularly I) stirred up. I admit we were being a little escalative and melodramatic, and I hope you will accept this apology. Also, please don't take the storm as a reason to leave, because that isn't a post that is frequently made "these days". We are just not looking forward to a reawakened war. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 15:37, 12 November 2015 (EST)

Just wondering...

How do you think I'm doing as an admin? Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 10:23, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Forgive me for jumping in, but OT said in a previous section:

"I have little experience with Nyargle and never took a look through his history, so I can't judge his capabilities."

Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 10:24, 13 November 2015 (EST)