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'''Olimar''' ({{ja|ピクミン&オリマー|Pikumin & Orimā}}, ''Pikmin & Olimar'') | '''Olimar''' ({{ja|ピクミン&オリマー|Pikumin & Orimā}}, ''Pikmin & Olimar'') is a playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. His return to the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series was announced on July 12th, 2013 on ''SSB4''{{'}}s official website, which made him the first character revealed after the initial [[E3 2013]] reveal of ''SSB4'' and occurred one day before the release date of ''Pikmin 3'' in Japan. | ||
Olimar is ranked 24th out of 56 on the [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the E tier. This is a significant drop from his top-tier placement in ''Brawl'', where he was ranked 3rd out of 38. While Olimar's [[Pikmin (species)|Pikmin]] enable him to deal high damage and knockback and grant him a large grab range, his active Pikmin count has been halved from six to three, severely reducing the effectiveness of the [[camp]]ing strategies he relied on in ''Brawl''. Olimar's other weaknesses include his slow mobility, with his poor air physics making him easy to juggle, his light weight rendering him easy to KO, his slow attack speed and his over-reliance of Pikmin. Nevertheless, Olimar has attained decent representation in competitive play and he has fared better than other characters that were formerly renowned in ''Brawl'', such as {{SSB4|Falco}}, {{SSB4|Marth}} and {{SSB4|King Dedede}}. | |||
Olimar is ranked 24th out of 56 on the [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the E tier. This is a significant drop from his top-tier placement in ''Brawl'', where he was ranked 3rd out of 38. While Olimar | |||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
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Olimar benefits from his [[Character customization|custom moves]]. Hardy Pikmin Pluck makes all types of Pikmin more durable, at the cost of plucking slower. Sticky Pikmin Throw has each Pikmin deals less damage and distance the Pikmin are thrown are reduced, but they stay on for much longer and hit faster. Combined with Hardy Pikmin Pluck, Sticky Pikmin Throw deals more damage overall. Tackle Pikmin Throw does not have the Pikmin latch on. Instead, they act like Purple Pikmin and slam into opponents, knocking them back. Mighty Winged Pikmin has reduced total travel distance, but the distance is not affected by the amount of Pikmin that Olimar is carrying. Order Tackle has all latched on Pikmin deal damage giving Olimar another way to deal damage. | Olimar benefits from his [[Character customization|custom moves]]. Hardy Pikmin Pluck makes all types of Pikmin more durable, at the cost of plucking slower. Sticky Pikmin Throw has each Pikmin deals less damage and distance the Pikmin are thrown are reduced, but they stay on for much longer and hit faster. Combined with Hardy Pikmin Pluck, Sticky Pikmin Throw deals more damage overall. Tackle Pikmin Throw does not have the Pikmin latch on. Instead, they act like Purple Pikmin and slam into opponents, knocking them back. Mighty Winged Pikmin has reduced total travel distance, but the distance is not affected by the amount of Pikmin that Olimar is carrying. Order Tackle has all latched on Pikmin deal damage giving Olimar another way to deal damage. | ||
Overall, Olimar still retains many of his considerable strengths in spite of their nerfs, and has even had some attributes buffed, mostly in damage. While his potential damage output was reduced, a smart player can overcome this, especially with the new mechanics for keeping track of Pikmin, making Olimar a much more reliable character for the player. Also, his recovery has been completely revamped for the better, which many agree has helped to alleviate his other changes. Early in the [[metagame]], Olimar was thought to be one of the worst characters, yet dedicated mains such as {{sm|Dabuz}} and {{sm|Logic}} have shown that, as in ''Brawl'', he is still a very capable character who retains an extremely steep learning curve. This is comparable to the early days of ''Brawl''{{'}}s metagame; in the beginning, he was seen as a mid-tier character, yet eventually rose to be in the top three on | Overall, Olimar still retains many of his considerable strengths in spite of their nerfs, and has even had some attributes buffed, mostly in damage. While his potential damage output was reduced, a smart player can overcome this, especially with the new mechanics for keeping track of Pikmin, making Olimar a much more reliable character for the player. Also, his recovery has been completely revamped for the better, which many agree has helped to alleviate his other changes. Early in the [[metagame]], Olimar was thought to be one of the worst characters, yet dedicated mains such as {{sm|Dabuz}} and {{sm|Logic}} have shown that, as in ''Brawl'', he is still a very capable character who retains an extremely steep learning curve. This is comparable to the early days of ''Brawl''{{'}}s metagame; in the beginning, he was seen as a mid-tier character, yet eventually rose to be in the top three on that game's [[tier list]]. | ||
==Changes from ''Brawl''== | ==Changes from ''Brawl''== | ||
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*{{change|Olimar now sports his design from ''Pikmin 3''. This includes minor additions to his spacesuit, the most notable of which is a visible [[whistle]] as a part of his helmet. The Pikmin have been updated as well, with their proportions now being more akin to their designs in ''Pikmin 3''.}} | *{{change|Olimar now sports his design from ''Pikmin 3''. This includes minor additions to his spacesuit, the most notable of which is a visible [[whistle]] as a part of his helmet. The Pikmin have been updated as well, with their proportions now being more akin to their designs in ''Pikmin 3''.}} | ||
*{{change|Pikmin appear to be slightly larger, while Olimar's size appears mostly unchanged.}} | *{{change|Pikmin appear to be slightly larger, while Olimar's size appears mostly unchanged.}} | ||
*{{buff|The Pikmin at the head of the line has a player-colored pointer above their head, as do Pikmin at a distance from Olimar | *{{buff|The Pikmin at the head of the line has a player-colored pointer above their head, as do Pikmin at a distance from Olimar. This allows the player to better visualize which Pikmin will be used next.}} | ||
===Attributes=== | ===Attributes=== | ||
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===Ground attacks=== | ===Ground attacks=== | ||
*{{nerf|Neutral attack deals 8% less damage (15% → 7%).}} | *{{nerf|Neutral attack deals 8% less damage (15% → 7%).}} | ||
*{{change|[[Neutral attack]]'s animation has changed. Instead of headbutting twice, Olimar now performs two alternating punches. The punches are based on the first two punches of the [[pikipedia: | *{{change|[[Neutral attack]]'s animation has changed. Instead of headbutting twice, Olimar now performs two alternating punches. The punches are based on the first two punches of the [[pikipedia:Upgrade#Rocket Fist|Rocket Fist]], an {{s|pikipedia|upgrade}}d punching combo in ''{{s|pikipedia|Pikmin 2}}'' that is learned upon collecting the {{s|pikipedia|Brute Knuckles}}.}} | ||
*{{buff|Olimar has a new [[forward tilt]] | *{{buff|Olimar has a new [[forward tilt]], a wind-up punch based on the final punch from the Rocket Fist upgrade in ''Pikmin 2''. Compared to the previous forward tilt, it deals 5% more damage (6% → 11%), has 1 frame less of ending lag (37 frames → 36) and has KO potential.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Forward tilt has | *{{nerf|Forward tilt has increased start-up (frame 9 → 15) compared to the previous forward tilt.}} | ||
*{{nerf|[[Up tilt]] deals 3.4% less damage (11% → 7.6%).}} | *{{nerf|[[Up tilt]] deals 3.4% less damage (11% → 7.6%).}} | ||
*{{buff|[[Down tilt]] | *{{buff|[[Down tilt]] has slightly stronger knockback.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Down tilt | *{{nerf|Down tilt has lost its hitbox on Olimar's antenna, decreasing the move's overall damage potential by 2% (8% → 6%).}} | ||
*{{buff|White Pikmin-based smash attacks deal more damage (9%/6%/3% → 11.6%/8%/4.8% (forward), 9%/7%/5% → 10.4%/8%/8.8% (up), 6%/4% → 8.8%/7.2% (down)).}} | *{{buff|White Pikmin-based smash attacks deal more damage (9%/6%/3% → 11.6%/8%/4.8% (forward), 9%/7%/5% → 10.4%/8%/8.8% (up), 6%/4% → 8.8%/7.2% (down)).}} | ||
*{{buff|Clean Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based forward smashes deal more damage (15% → 17.4% (R), 13% → 14.5% (Y), 18% → 20.3% (P)).}} | *{{buff|Clean Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based forward smashes deal more damage (15% → 17.4% (R), 13% → 14.5% (Y), 18% → 20.3% (P)).}} | ||
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*{{buff|White Pikmin-based forward aerial deals 1.8% more damage (5% → 6.8%).}} | *{{buff|White Pikmin-based forward aerial deals 1.8% more damage (5% → 6.8%).}} | ||
*{{buff|Forward and back aerials are faster.}} | *{{buff|Forward and back aerials are faster.}} | ||
*{{nerf|[[Up aerial]] deals less damage (24% → 10.8% (R), 16% → 9% (Y), 22% → 9% (B), 9% → 7.2% (W), 22% → 12.6% (P)).}} | *{{nerf|[[Up aerial]] deals less damage (24% → 10.8% (R), 16% → 9% (Y), 22% → 9% (B), 9% → 7.2% (W), 22% → 12.6% (P)) due to consisting of one hit instead of seven.}} | ||
*{{buff|Up aerial | *{{buff|Up aerial's decreased hit count improves its juggling and KO potentials.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Sweetspotted Red, Yellow, Blue and Purple Pikmin-based [[down aerial]]s deal less damage (16% → 10.8% (R), 12% → 9% (Y), 13% → 9% (B), 13% → 12.6% (P)).}} | *{{nerf|Sweetspotted Red, Yellow, Blue and Purple Pikmin-based [[down aerial]]s deal less damage (16% → 10.8% (R), 12% → 9% (Y), 13% → 9% (B), 13% → 12.6% (P)).}} | ||
*{{buff|Down aerial is much faster.}} | *{{buff|Down aerial is much faster.}} | ||
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*{{nerf|Red and Blue Pikmin-based [[forward throw]]s deal less damage (6% → 5.6% (R), 13% → 11.2% (B)).}} | *{{nerf|Red and Blue Pikmin-based [[forward throw]]s deal less damage (6% → 5.6% (R), 13% → 11.2% (B)).}} | ||
*{{buff|Red and Blue Pikmin-based [[back throw]]s deal more damage (7% → 7.2% (R), 14% → 14.4% (B)).}} | *{{buff|Red and Blue Pikmin-based [[back throw]]s deal more damage (7% → 7.2% (R), 14% → 14.4% (B)).}} | ||
*{{nerf|Back throw has | *{{nerf|Back throw has decreased knockback, even when using Blue Pikmin, hindering its KO potential.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based [[up throw]]s deal less damage (9% → 6.4% (R), 11% → 8% (YP)).}} | *{{nerf|Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based [[up throw]]s deal less damage (9% → 6.4% (R), 11% → 8% (YP)).}} | ||
*{{buff|Blue Pikmin-based up throw deals 0.8% more damage (12% → 12.8%).}} | *{{buff|Blue Pikmin-based up throw deals 0.8% more damage (12% → 12.8%).}} | ||
*{{change|Up throw has decreased knockback, especially when using Purple Pikmin. | *{{change|Up throw has decreased knockback, especially when using Purple Pikmin. This improves its combo potential, but hinders its KO potential.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Red Pikmin-based [[down throw]] deals 2.4% less damage (9% → 6.6%).}} | *{{nerf|Red Pikmin-based [[down throw]] deals 2.4% less damage (9% → 6.6%).}} | ||
*{{buff|Blue and Purple Pikmin-based down throws deal more damage (12% → 12.2% (B), 8% → 8.4% (P)).}} | *{{buff|Blue and Purple Pikmin-based down throws deal more damage (12% → 12.2% (B), 8% → 8.4% (P)).}} | ||
*{{nerf|Edge attack deals less damage (8%/10% → 7%).}} | |||
*{{change|Olimar has a new edge attack, a [[pikipedia:punch|punch]] from the ''Pikmin'' series.}} | |||
===Special moves=== | ===Special moves=== | ||
*{{change|[[Pikmin Throw]] | *{{change|[[Pikmin Throw]] launches Pikmin much farther. This improves its zoning potential, but also makes the Pikmin easier to throw off the stage.}} | ||
*{{buff|Olimar has a new up special, [[Winged Pikmin]]. | *{{buff|Olimar has a new up special, [[Winged Pikmin]]. Unlike [[Pikmin Chain]], Winged Pikmin is a controllable, flight-based recovery that covers covers much more distance and allows Olimar to attack out of it, similarly to {{SSBB|Pit}}'s [[Wings of Icarus]] in ''Brawl'', making it much safer and much more versatile.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Winged Pikmin is significantly less effective if Olimar has more Pikmin, which may require him to sacrifice them to prevent himself from being KO'd or [[self-destruct]]ing. Its overall effectiveness worsens if it is used consecutively. The loss of Pikmin Chain also removes Olimar's only [[tether]].}} | *{{nerf|Compared to Pikmin Chain, Winged Pikmin is significantly less effective if Olimar has more Pikmin, which may require him to sacrifice them to prevent himself from being KO'd or [[self-destruct]]ing. Its overall effectiveness also worsens if it is used consecutively. The loss of Pikmin Chain also removes Olimar's only [[tether]].}} | ||
*{{nerf|[[Pikmin Order]] grants | *{{nerf|[[Pikmin Order]] grants less [[super armor]] frames (14 frames → 7).}} | ||
*{{buff|[[End of Day]]'s | *{{buff|[[End of Day]]'s explosion has a larger [[hitbox]].}} | ||
*{{nerf|End of Day | *{{nerf|End of Day has decreased knockback.}} | ||
*{{buff|[[Hocotate Ship]]'s descent during End of Day can be aimed like a [[Warp Star]], | *{{buff|[[Hocotate Ship]]'s descent during End of Day can be aimed like a [[Warp Star]], improving its accuracy.}} | ||
===Version exclusives=== | ===Version exclusives=== | ||
*{{change|{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}}Pikmin have more limited cosmetics, as their leaves do not turn into buds or flowers. Also, their idle animations are all synchronized.}} | *{{change|{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}}Pikmin have more limited cosmetics, as their leaves do not turn into buds or flowers. Also, their idle animations are all synchronized.}} | ||
*{{change|{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}}On rare occasions, two or three Pikmin may stand in the same spot in Olimar's line-up, leading to [[:File:MeshedPikmin.jpg| | *{{change|{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}}On rare occasions, two or three Pikmin may stand in the same spot in Olimar's line-up, leading to [[:File:MeshedPikmin.jpg|odd results]]. This can also make it difficult to tell which Pikmin will be used next.}} | ||
*{{buff|{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}}Thrown Pikmin can carry [[item]]s to Olimar.<ref>http://www.gfycat.com/RemorsefulBarrenCreature</ref> Despite being exclusive to this version, his alt. trophy in the {{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} version still makes mention of this feature.}} | *{{buff|{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}}Thrown Pikmin can carry [[item]]s to Olimar.<ref>http://www.gfycat.com/RemorsefulBarrenCreature</ref> Despite being exclusive to this version, his alt. trophy in the {{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} version still makes mention of this feature.}} | ||
==Update history== | ==Update history== | ||
Olimar received a mix of buffs and nerfs. | Olimar has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] made Pikmin Pluck unable to be edge-canceled and decreased the amount of damage that Red, Yellow, and Blue Pikmin deal when they latch onto opponents. To compensate for this, White Pikmin deal more damage when latched on and the latch time for all Pikmin was increased. Olimar also slightly benefits from the changes to shield mechanics brought about by updates [[1.1.0]] and [[1.1.1]], as a latched Pikmin is noticeably better at dealing with a shielding opponent. | ||
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} 1.0.4''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} 1.0.4''' | ||
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'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.0.8''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.0.8''' | ||
*{{bugfix|Fixed a glitch where Pikmin Order no longer reverses from | *{{bugfix|Fixed a glitch where [[Pikmin Order]] no longer reverses from edge grabs.}} | ||
==Moveset== | ==Moveset== | ||
*All Pikmin-based moves and grabs use the next Pikmin in the line to perform the given attack, and the knockback and damage are dependent on the Pikmin type. That Pikmin then goes to the back of the line.<br/>'''R:''' Red Pikmin, '''Y:''' Yellow Pikmin, '''B:''' Blue Pikmin, '''W:''' White Pikmin, '''P:''' Purple Pikmin | |||
{{MovesetTable | {{MovesetTable | ||
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|neutral1dmg=3% (early, clean arm), 4% (clean fist) | |neutral1dmg=3% (early, clean arm), 4% (clean fist) | ||
|neutral2dmg=3% (arm), 4% (fist) | |neutral2dmg=3% (arm), 4% (fist) | ||
|neutraldesc=The first two alternating punches of the [[pikipedia: | |neutraldesc=The first two alternating [[pikipedia:Punch|punches]] of the [[pikipedia:Upgrade#Rocket Fist|Rocket Fist]] ability from ''{{s|pikipedia|Pikmin 2}}''. Its knockback and very quick speed enables it to act as pseudo-[[jab cancel]] at lower percents, thus allowing it to act as a set-up for a grab, or act as a tech-chase at higher percents. Performing it repeatedly will slightly move Olimar forward. | ||
|ftiltname= | |ftiltname= | ||
|ftiltdmg=11% | |ftiltdmg=11% | ||
|ftiltdesc=The powerful, wind-up punch of the Rocket Fist ability from ''Pikmin 2''. | |ftiltdesc=The powerful, wind-up punch of the Rocket Fist ability from ''Pikmin 2''. It has impressive KO potential, KOing {{SSB4|Bowser}} at 130% near the edge of [[Final Destination (SSB4)|Final Destination]], and is Olimar's only KOing option when he does not have any Pikmin. However, it is also his slowest attack, coming out on frame 15. | ||
|utiltname= | |utiltname= | ||
|utiltdmg=0.6% (hits 1-6), 4% (hit 7) | |utiltdmg=0.6% (hits 1-6), 4% (hit 7) | ||
|utiltdesc=A hopping twirl. | |utiltdesc=A hopping twirl. It has very little start-up, which makes it useful as an anti-pressure option and out of shield option. | ||
|dtiltname= | |dtiltname= | ||
|dtiltdmg=6% | |dtiltdmg=6% | ||
|dtiltdesc=A crouching headbutt. | |dtiltdesc=A crouching headbutt. A useful combo starter due to its low knockback, it can combo into itself, his up tilt, his smash attacks and his aerials depending on the opponent's DI. | ||
|dashname= | |dashname= | ||
|dashdmg=7% (hit 1), 4% (hit 2) | |dashdmg=7% (hit 1), 4% (hit 2) | ||
|dashdesc=A cartwheel. | |dashdesc=A cartwheel. It can combo into a string of up aerials from 0%-10%. Outside of this, its only other utility is being a mix-up and approach option, as it is unable to combo past extremely low percents or KO at a reasonable percent. | ||
|fsmashname= | |fsmashname= | ||
|fsmashdmg=R:{{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17.4}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|7.2}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14.5}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|6}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11.6}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|4.8}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|20.3}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.4}} (late) | |fsmashdmg=R:{{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17.4}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|7.2}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14.5}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|6}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11.6}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|4.8}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|20.3}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.4}} (late) | ||
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|usmashname= | |usmashname= | ||
|usmashdmg=R: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.6}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13.2}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10.4}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.8}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|18.2}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.4}} (late) | |usmashdmg=R: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.6}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13.2}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10.4}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.8}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|18.2}} (clean near), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (clean far), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.4}} (late) | ||
|usmashdesc=Points upward and commands a Pikmin to perform a jumping, twisting | |usmashdesc=Points upward and commands a Pikmin to perform a jumping, twisting headbutt. Very powerful with the purple Pikmin, KOing {{SSB4|King Dedede}} at 70%. | ||
|dsmashname= | |dsmashname= | ||
|dsmashdmg=R: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13.2}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10.8}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|9}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.8}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|7.2}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.4}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12.6}} (late) | |dsmashdmg=R: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|13.2}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10.8}} (late)<br/>YB: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|11}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|9}} (late)<br/>W: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8.8}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|7.2}} (late)<br/>P: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15.4}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|12.6}} (late) | ||
|dsmashdesc=Crouches slightly, points to both of his sides and commands two Pikmin dash out to either side. If the opponent is close enough to Olimar, both Pikmin can hit the opponent, which | |dsmashdesc=Crouches slightly, points to both of his sides and commands two Pikmin dash out to either side. If the opponent is close enough to Olimar, both Pikmin can hit the opponent, which can deal a maximum of 43% when performed with two Purple Pikmin. Very quick, has little ending lag and has a chance to trip opponents. | ||
|nairname= | |nairname= | ||
|nairdmg=1.5% (hits 1-4), 2% (hit 5) | |nairdmg=1.5% (hits 1-4), 2% (hit 5) | ||
|nairdesc=A hopping twirl that is identical to his up tilt. | |nairdesc=A hopping twirl that is identical to his up tilt. It has impressive set-up potential at any percent, as it allows him to follow-up with his up and down tilts, smash attacks or a grab. However, this only occurs if its last hit does not connect, which can be done by having Olimar land before it concludes. | ||
|fairname= | |fairname= | ||
|fairdmg=10.2% (R), 8.5% (YB), 6.8% (W), 11.9% (P) | |fairdmg=10.2% (R), 8.5% (YB), 6.8% (W), 11.9% (P) | ||
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|uairname= | |uairname= | ||
|uairdmg=10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | |uairdmg=10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | ||
|uairdesc=Twirls a Pikmin upward while holding its stem. | |uairdesc=Twirls a Pikmin upward while holding its stem. A viable KOing option, though it has a noticeable amount of landing lag. | ||
|dairname= | |dairname= | ||
|dairdmg=10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | |dairdmg=10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | ||
|dairdesc=Swings a Pikmin downward while holding its stem. | |dairdesc=Swings a Pikmin downward while holding its stem. Its sweetspot is near the stem of the Pikmin and [[meteor smash]]es opponents. | ||
|grabname= | |grabname= | ||
|grabdesc=Sends a Pikmin forth to grab opponents. White Pikmin have the longest reach while Purple Pikmin have the shortest. | |grabdesc=Sends a Pikmin forth to grab opponents. White Pikmin have the longest reach while Purple Pikmin have the shortest. | ||
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|fthrowname= | |fthrowname= | ||
|fthrowdmg=5.6% (R), 7% (YWP), 11.2% (B) | |fthrowdmg=5.6% (R), 7% (YWP), 11.2% (B) | ||
|fthrowdesc=The Pikmin shoves the opponent away. | |fthrowdesc=The Pikmin shoves the opponent away. It has no utility outside of dealing damage. | ||
|bthrowname= | |bthrowname= | ||
|bthrowdmg=7.2% (R), 9% (YWP), 14.4% (B) | |bthrowdmg=7.2% (R), 9% (YWP), 14.4% (B) | ||
|bthrowdesc=The Pikmin swings the opponent backward. | |bthrowdesc=The Pikmin swings the opponent backward. It dDeals the most damage out of Olimar's throws. | ||
|uthrowname= | |uthrowname= | ||
|uthrowdmg=6.4% (R), 8% (YWP), 12.8% (B) | |uthrowdmg=6.4% (R), 8% (YWP), 12.8% (B) | ||
|uthrowdesc=The Pikmin jumps up and then slams into the opponent head-first. | |uthrowdesc=The Pikmin jumps up and then slams into the opponent head-first. It is one of the strongest up throws in the game when used with Blue Pikmin. | ||
|dthrowname= | |dthrowname= | ||
|dthrowdmg=R: 1% (hit 1), 5.6% (throw)<br/>Y: 1% (hit 1), 7% (throw)<br/>B: 1% (hit 1), 11.2% (throw)<br/>W: 0.8% (hit 1), 7% (throw)<br/>P: 1.4% (hit 1), 7% (throw) | |dthrowdmg=R: 1% (hit 1), 5.6% (throw)<br/>Y: 1% (hit 1), 7% (throw)<br/>B: 1% (hit 1), 11.2% (throw)<br/>W: 0.8% (hit 1), 7% (throw)<br/>P: 1.4% (hit 1), 7% (throw) | ||
|dthrowdesc=The Pikmin slams the opponent into the ground. A very reliable combo starter. | |dthrowdesc=The Pikmin slams the opponent into the ground. A very reliable combo starter, such as into his neutral aerial from 0% to low percents, his forward aerial from 0% to high percents, and his up aerial from low to high percents. | ||
|floorfname= | |floorfname= | ||
|floorfdmg=7% | |floorfdmg=7% | ||
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|floorbname= | |floorbname= | ||
|floorbdmg=7% | |floorbdmg=7% | ||
|floorbdesc= | |floorbdesc=Punches in front of himself and then behind himself while getting up. | ||
|floortname= | |floortname= | ||
|floortdmg=5% | |floortdmg=5% | ||
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|edgename= | |edgename= | ||
|edgedmg=7% | |edgedmg=7% | ||
|edgedesc= | |edgedesc=Throws a punch while climbing up. | ||
|nsdefname=Pikmin Pluck | |nsdefname=Pikmin Pluck | ||
|nsdefdmg=— | |nsdefdmg=— | ||
|nsdefdesc=Plucks a Pikmin. It cannot be used in midair and has ending lag if it is attempted. | |nsdefdesc=Plucks a Pikmin. It cannot be used in midair and has ending lag if it is attempted in midair or if no more Pikmin can be plucked. | ||
|nsc1name=Hardy Pikmin Pluck | |nsc1name=Hardy Pikmin Pluck | ||
|nsc1dmg=— | |nsc1dmg=— | ||
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|ssc2name=Tackle Pikmin Throw | |ssc2name=Tackle Pikmin Throw | ||
|ssc2dmg=5% (RYB), 3% (W), 8% (P) | |ssc2dmg=5% (RYB), 3% (W), 8% (P) | ||
|ssc2desc=All Pikmin act like Purple Pikmin and tackle opponents instead of latching onto them. | |ssc2desc=All Pikmin act like Purple Pikmin and tackle opponents instead of latching onto them. Red, Yellow, Blue and White Pikmin deal less damage, but Purple Pikmin deal more damage. | ||
|usdefname=Winged Pikmin | |usdefname=Winged Pikmin | ||
|usdefdmg=— | |usdefdmg=— | ||
|usdefdesc=Two Winged Pikmin carry Olimar around. Having more Pikmin | |usdefdesc=Two Winged Pikmin carry Olimar around, enabling him to recover. While being carried, Olimar can attack. Having more Pikmin or using the move consecutively decreases the Winged Pikmin's effectiveness, while attacking will render Olimar [[helpless]]. | ||
|usc1name=Winged Pikmin Jump | |usc1name=Winged Pikmin Jump | ||
|usc1dmg=— | |usc1dmg=— | ||
|usc1desc=Functions as a | |usc1desc=Functions as a traditional recovery by lacking the maneuverability in order to quickly lift Olimar upward a certain distance before falling. It also [[push]]es close opponents away. | ||
|usc2name=Mighty Winged Pikmin | |usc2name=Mighty Winged Pikmin | ||
|usc2dmg=— | |usc2dmg=— | ||
|usc2desc=The distance traveled does not depend on Pikmin carried, but | |usc2desc=The distance traveled does not depend on Pikmin carried, but it follows a fixed distance regardless of the amount of Pikmin in tow. | ||
|dsdefname=Pikmin Order | |dsdefname=Pikmin Order | ||
|dsdefdmg=— | |dsdefdmg=— | ||
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|dsc1name=Order Tackle | |dsc1name=Order Tackle | ||
|dsc1dmg=3% (RYB), 2% (W), 5% (P)<!--might be 1/1/1/3/5 instead, the guy who added this couldn't check at the time--> | |dsc1dmg=3% (RYB), 2% (W), 5% (P)<!--might be 1/1/1/3/5 instead, the guy who added this couldn't check at the time--> | ||
|dsc1desc=Pikmin recalled deal damage. | |dsc1desc=Pikmin recalled deal damage, but it has some ending lag. | ||
|dsc2name=Dizzy Whistle | |dsc2name=Dizzy Whistle | ||
|dsc2dmg=0.1% (hit 1), 1% (hit 2) | |dsc2dmg=0.1% (hit 1), 1% (hit 2) | ||
|dsc2desc=[[ | |dsc2desc=Deals damage and [[reverse]]s opponents in the whistle effect, but it is slightly slower than the default version and has a noticeable amount of start-up. | ||
|fsname=End of Day | |fsname=End of Day | ||
|fsdmg=10% (launch), 10% (ascent), 10% (descent), 12%/10% (explosion) | |fsdmg=10% (launch), 10% (ascent), 10% (descent), 12%/10% (explosion) | ||
|fsdesc=Jumps into his Hocotate Ship and launches into space, causing all nearby opponents to be [[buried]]. While the ship has left the stage, | |fsdesc=Jumps into his [[Hocotate Ship]] and launches into space, causing all nearby opponents to be [[bury|buried]]. While the ship has left the stage, [[Red Bulborb]]s viciously assault opponents, inflicting steady damage. The Hocotate Ship finally crashes back down to the ground, dealing a considerable amount of damage and knockback to anyone caught in the explosion. | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{Taunt/SSB4 | {{Taunt/SSB4 | ||
|char=Olimar | |char=Olimar | ||
|desc-up=Joyfully jumps in place three times. | |desc-up=Joyfully jumps in place three times. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is accompanied by a sound effect. | ||
|desc-side=Lays down on the ground, rolls around as if basking in nature and then gets up. | |desc-side=Lays down on the ground, rolls around as if basking in nature and then gets up. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is accompanied by a sound effect. | ||
|desc-down=Swings his hips. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is accompanied by a sound effect.}} | |desc-down=Swings his hips. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is accompanied by a sound effect.}} | ||
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* '''[[A Battle of Scale]]''': A tiny Olimar must defeat a giant {{SSB4|Bowser}}. | * '''[[A Battle of Scale]]''': A tiny Olimar must defeat a giant {{SSB4|Bowser}}. | ||
* '''[[All-Star Battle: Brawl]]''': Olimar is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents debuted in ''Brawl''. | * '''[[All-Star Battle: Brawl]]''': Olimar is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents debuted in ''Brawl''. | ||
* '''[[The Big 7650!]]''': | * '''[[The Big 7650!]]''': As {{SSB4|Pac-Man}}, the player must use his [[Final Smash]], [[Super Pac-Man]], on three Olimars within 15 seconds. | ||
===Co-op Events=== | ===Co-op Events=== | ||
* '''[[Poisonous Planet]]''': A | * '''[[Poisonous Planet]]''': A [[flower]]ed Olimar and {{SSB4|Samus}} must defeat two giant {{SSB4|Charizard}} in a [[Stamina Mode|Stamina Battle]] before their own health is depleted. | ||
* '''[[Solidarity]]''': Olimar and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}} must initially defeat {{SSB4|Mario}} and {{SSB4|Luigi}}. After defeating them, they must defeat | * '''[[Solidarity]]''': Olimar and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}} must initially defeat {{SSB4|Mario}} and {{SSB4|Luigi}}. After defeating them, they must defeat Bowser and {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}} | ||
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | * '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | ||
* '''[[Visiting Onett]]''': Olimar is one of the six opponents {{SSB4|Ness}} and {{SSB4|Villager}} must defeat. All opponents are outer-space-based characters. | * '''[[Visiting Onett]]''': Olimar is one of the six opponents {{SSB4|Ness}} and {{SSB4|Villager}} must defeat. All opponents are outer-space-based characters. | ||
==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Olimar|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Olimar|Alternate costumes]]== | ||
Instead of color | Instead of alternate color schemes, half of Olimar's [[alternate costume]]s consist of [[Alph]], one of the three playable characters from ''Pikmin 3''. | ||
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Alph SSB4 Render.png|Alph's official art. | Alph SSB4 Render.png|Alph's official art. | ||
Olimar amiibo.png|Olimar's [[amiibo]]. | Olimar amiibo.png|Olimar's [[amiibo]]. | ||
Olimar Miiverse.png|Pic of the Day | Olimar Miiverse.png|The Pic of the Day revealing Olimar's return to the series and commemorating ''Pikmin 3''{{'}}s Japanese launch. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-1.jpg|Olimar's appearance in ''{{forwiiu}}''. | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-1.jpg|Olimar's appearance in ''{{forwiiu}}''. | ||
Olimar 3DS.jpg|Olimar in ''{{for3ds}}''. | Olimar 3DS.jpg|Olimar in ''{{for3ds}}''. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-2.jpg|Olimar running with his Pikmin. | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-2.jpg|Olimar running with his Pikmin. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-3.jpg| | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-3.jpg|Using forward smash with a Red Pikmin on {{SSB4|Fox}}. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-4.jpg| | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-4.jpg|Using back aerial with a White Pikmin on {{SSB4|Mega Man}}. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-5.jpg| | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-5.jpg|Using down smash on {{SSB4|Pit}} and {{SSB4|Link}}. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-6.jpg|Red, Yellow and White Pikmin. | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-6.jpg|Red, Yellow and White Pikmin. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-7.jpg|Olimar running from {{SSB4|Bowser}} | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-7.jpg|Olimar running from {{SSB4|Bowser}} while the ghost of a deceased Blue Pikmin is visible. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-8.jpg|Olimar falling. | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-8.jpg|Olimar falling. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-9.jpg|Pikmin looking up at {{SSB4|Kirby}}. | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-9.jpg|Pikmin looking up at {{SSB4|Kirby}}. | ||
SSB4 - Olimar Screen-10.jpg| | SSB4 - Olimar Screen-10.jpg|Using his side taunt. | ||
Pikmin&MegaMan.jpg|Olimar's Pikmin near {{SSB4|Mega Man}}. | Pikmin&MegaMan.jpg|Olimar's Pikmin near {{SSB4|Mega Man}}. | ||
Olimar closeup (Wii U).jpg|A close up of Olimar's whistle and Hocotate Freight patch. | Olimar closeup (Wii U).jpg|A close up of Olimar's whistle and Hocotate Freight patch. | ||
WiiFit - Olimar.jpg|{{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}} | WiiFit - Olimar.jpg|Olimar and {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}} on [[Wii Fit Studio]]. | ||
Hocotate Ship SSB4.jpg|A [[Hocotate Bomb]]. | Hocotate Ship SSB4.jpg|A [[Hocotate Bomb]]. | ||
Olimar Reveal.jpg|Olimar running with his Pikmin. | Olimar Reveal.jpg|Olimar running with his Pikmin. | ||
WingedPikmin.jpg| | WingedPikmin.jpg|Using [[Winged Pikmin]], his new up special. | ||
MeshedPikmin.jpg|A rare glitch that causes Pikmin's models to become meshed. | MeshedPikmin.jpg|A rare glitch that causes Pikmin's models to become meshed. | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> |
Revision as of 01:43, June 11, 2016
- This article is about Olimar's appearance in Super Smash Bros. 4 . For other uses, see Captain Olimar and Pikmin (species).
Olimar in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Universe | Pikmin |
Other playable appearance | in Brawl |
Availability | Starter |
Final Smash | End of Day |
Tier | E (24) |
Olimar (ピクミン&オリマー, Pikmin & Olimar) is a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4. His return to the Super Smash Bros. series was announced on July 12th, 2013 on SSB4's official website, which made him the first character revealed after the initial E3 2013 reveal of SSB4 and occurred one day before the release date of Pikmin 3 in Japan.
Olimar is ranked 24th out of 56 on the tier list, placing him at the top of the E tier. This is a significant drop from his top-tier placement in Brawl, where he was ranked 3rd out of 38. While Olimar's Pikmin enable him to deal high damage and knockback and grant him a large grab range, his active Pikmin count has been halved from six to three, severely reducing the effectiveness of the camping strategies he relied on in Brawl. Olimar's other weaknesses include his slow mobility, with his poor air physics making him easy to juggle, his light weight rendering him easy to KO, his slow attack speed and his over-reliance of Pikmin. Nevertheless, Olimar has attained decent representation in competitive play and he has fared better than other characters that were formerly renowned in Brawl, such as Falco, Marth and King Dedede.
Attributes
Olimar's playstyle is almost identical to how it was in Brawl, due to retaining a large portion of his moveset and animations, although some moves have been slightly tweaked and re-balanced. Much like in his home series, Olimar himself has extremely meager offensive prowess and must rely on instructing his multicolored Pikmin to remedy this glaring flaw. As a result, almost all of Olimar's moves involve Pikmin and thus they can end up being useful or useless depending on whether or not he has Pikmin. When he has Pikmin, Olimar gains arguably one of the most unique playstyles in the game due to Pikmin acting as both projectiles and separate characters, much like Rosalina & Luma. When used correctly, the Pikmin provide noticeable and effective benefits: they can easily rack up high amounts of damage in short periods of time, they grant Olimar's grab a hugely disjointed range due to Pikmin running out to grab opponents at any time, and Olimar can also outcamp opponents just as easily as halting their approaches. His special moves are also heavily dependent on Pikmin, but are all beneficial: Pikmin Throw enables Olimar to stop approaches, Pikmin Order grants him launch resistance to help alleviate his light weight, while Winged Pikmin provides a long-distanced and maneuverable recovery that makes him more difficult to KO than other lightweight characters. Along with all these advantages, he can befuddle many opponents with the different colored Pikmin he possesses, with each having unique attributes.
With all things considered, Olimar has one of the most damaging fighting styles among the cast, being able to KO nearly all opponents in a short period when his Pikmin are utilized wisely. For example, Pikmin Throw allots him a large array of options for offense, as it can both zone and get opponents to KO percents quickly; when the thrown Pikmin are not shaken off, they can tack on 10%-30% in a matter of seconds, forcing opponents to carefully calculate their approach. He can also have up to three Pikmin at a time in his line-up, which, despite its aforementioned halving since Brawl, can be hard for the challenger to keep track of, especially with the varied colors. He can also KO early with his relatively fast and very powerful smash attacks; some, such as up smash, are able to KO with purple Pikmin as early as about 60%. Also, with his huge grab range, he can disrupt the movements of both quick characters and roll spammers, also being having an excellent shield-grab. His aerial game is also quite powerful, with some of his moves being able to easily juggle and KO at the upper blast line, although these are pitiful without Pikmin. The Pikmin also have other special abilities, such as being able to carry various items back to Olimar as they run back to him, and some types, like the yellow one, can block electrical attacks like PK Thunder and freeze opponents. However, this does act as a drawback; since Pikmin are now treated as projectiles, they can be reflected, sometimes hindering his ability against characters with moves of this sort.
However, Olimar does have flaws. One of Olimar's greatest weaknesses is that he struggles against fast characters, such as Captain Falcon and Sonic. As Olimar is a slower character, they can easily catch up and punish Olimar if he tries to retreat to pluck more Pikmin. They can also easily kill Olimar's Pikmin, especially Sonic, whose Spin Dash can kill off any attached Pikmin in one or two hits. As Olimar needs his Pikmin to have a respectable offensive presence, Olimar must play very safely against these characters. Olimar also has poor aerial physics, as his slow falling speed and bad air speed make him easy to juggle and, when combined with his light weight, to KO. Another severe flaw he has is his over-reliance on Pikmin, similar to how it is in the Pikmin games. Without his Pikmin his up, down, back, and forward aerials, grabs, side special, and smash attacks will simply do nothing, significantly harming his neutral game since they are his most effective attacks. This also leaves Olimar with only a total of six attacks that deal damage: his neutral attack, tilt attacks, dash attack and neutral aerial, with his forward tilt being his only KOing option that does not use Pikmin. Due to this, it is crucial that Olimar has at least one Pikmin with him at all times.
Olimar benefits from his custom moves. Hardy Pikmin Pluck makes all types of Pikmin more durable, at the cost of plucking slower. Sticky Pikmin Throw has each Pikmin deals less damage and distance the Pikmin are thrown are reduced, but they stay on for much longer and hit faster. Combined with Hardy Pikmin Pluck, Sticky Pikmin Throw deals more damage overall. Tackle Pikmin Throw does not have the Pikmin latch on. Instead, they act like Purple Pikmin and slam into opponents, knocking them back. Mighty Winged Pikmin has reduced total travel distance, but the distance is not affected by the amount of Pikmin that Olimar is carrying. Order Tackle has all latched on Pikmin deal damage giving Olimar another way to deal damage.
Overall, Olimar still retains many of his considerable strengths in spite of their nerfs, and has even had some attributes buffed, mostly in damage. While his potential damage output was reduced, a smart player can overcome this, especially with the new mechanics for keeping track of Pikmin, making Olimar a much more reliable character for the player. Also, his recovery has been completely revamped for the better, which many agree has helped to alleviate his other changes. Early in the metagame, Olimar was thought to be one of the worst characters, yet dedicated mains such as Dabuz and Logic have shown that, as in Brawl, he is still a very capable character who retains an extremely steep learning curve. This is comparable to the early days of Brawl's metagame; in the beginning, he was seen as a mid-tier character, yet eventually rose to be in the top three on that game's tier list.
Changes from Brawl
Olimar received a mix of buffs and nerfs in the transition from Brawl to SSB4, but was nerfed overall. The most glaring nerf was the limit of his Pikmin, which was halved from six to three. As a result, this hinders his general damage output and especially his potential damage output. However, he also received slight buffs in some areas to compensate, such as his smash attacks using Purple Pikmin becoming even more potent. The most noticeable buff Olimar received was to his recovery, as Winged Pikmin largely outclasses Pikmin Chain. He additionally maintains most of the options he had in Brawl. Overall, Olimar's viability is still apparent, though not to the degree it was in Brawl.
Aesthetics
- Olimar now sports his design from Pikmin 3. This includes minor additions to his spacesuit, the most notable of which is a visible whistle as a part of his helmet. The Pikmin have been updated as well, with their proportions now being more akin to their designs in Pikmin 3.
- Pikmin appear to be slightly larger, while Olimar's size appears mostly unchanged.
- The Pikmin at the head of the line has a player-colored pointer above their head, as do Pikmin at a distance from Olimar. This allows the player to better visualize which Pikmin will be used next.
Attributes
- Olimar is lighter (82 → 79).
- Olimar dashes faster (1.4 → 1.47).
- Olimar's falling speed is faster (1.3 → 1.35).
- Olimar's maximum Pikmin count has been halved (6 → 3).
- Pikmin have flawed AI and sometimes fly out of line if the player moves Olimar too quickly, leaving Olimar with no Pikmin in tow to perform attacks. This sometimes prevents combos from being performed effectively. However, this is considerably less prevalent in the version, in which the flawed AI only occurs at ledges.
- Instead of being random and based on terrain, Pikmin are now plucked in a set cycle (Red → Yellow → Blue → White → Purple). While this means Olimar no longer has to depend on certain types of terrain to get certain Pikmin and all Pikmin are equally likely to appear, it also makes it less likely to have two or more of the same type at once.
- Pikmin separated from Olimar die faster.
- Pikmin can now latch onto a Smash Ball.
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack deals 8% less damage (15% → 7%).
- Neutral attack's animation has changed. Instead of headbutting twice, Olimar now performs two alternating punches. The punches are based on the first two punches of the Rocket Fist, an upgraded punching combo in Pikmin 2 that is learned upon collecting the Brute Knuckles.
- Olimar has a new forward tilt, a wind-up punch based on the final punch from the Rocket Fist upgrade in Pikmin 2. Compared to the previous forward tilt, it deals 5% more damage (6% → 11%), has 1 frame less of ending lag (37 frames → 36) and has KO potential.
- Forward tilt has increased start-up (frame 9 → 15) compared to the previous forward tilt.
- Up tilt deals 3.4% less damage (11% → 7.6%).
- Down tilt has slightly stronger knockback.
- Down tilt has lost its hitbox on Olimar's antenna, decreasing the move's overall damage potential by 2% (8% → 6%).
- White Pikmin-based smash attacks deal more damage (9%/6%/3% → 11.6%/8%/4.8% (forward), 9%/7%/5% → 10.4%/8%/8.8% (up), 6%/4% → 8.8%/7.2% (down)).
- Clean Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based forward smashes deal more damage (15% → 17.4% (R), 13% → 14.5% (Y), 18% → 20.3% (P)).
- Clean Blue Pikmin-based forward smash deals 0.5% less damage (15% → 14.5%).
- Forward smash has increased horizontal range.
- Forward smash has slightly decreased knockback.
- Forward smash no longer makes Pikmin fly off the edge. While this helps conserve Pikmin, it removes a gimping option.
- Clean near and late Red Pikmin-based up smash deals more damage (15%/12% → 15.6%/13.2%).
- Clean near Yellow Pikmin-based up smash deals 1% less damage (14% → 13%).
- Clean near and far Blue Pikmin-based up smash deals less damage (15%/13% → 13%/10%).
- Clean far Red and Yellow Pikmin-based up smash deal 2% less damage (14% → 12%).
- Late Yellow Pikmin-based up smash deals 1% more damage (10% → 11%).
- Purple Pikmin-based up smash deals more damage (16%/13%/13% → 18.2%/14%/15.4%).
- Up smash has decreased vertical range.
- Up and down smashes are faster.
- Red and Purple Pikmin-based down smashes deal more damage (13%/10% → 13.2%/10.8% (R), 15%/12% → 15.4%/12.6% (P)).
- Clean Blue Pikmin-based down smash deals 1% less damage (12% → 11%).
Aerial attacks
- Neutral aerial deals 4% less damage (12% → 8%).
- Red, Yellow, Blue and Purple Pikmin-based forward aerials deal less damage (15% → 10.2% (R), 12% → 8.5% (Y), 13% → 8.5% (B), 14% → 11.9% (P)).
- White Pikmin-based forward aerial deals 1.8% more damage (5% → 6.8%).
- Forward and back aerials are faster.
- Up aerial deals less damage (24% → 10.8% (R), 16% → 9% (Y), 22% → 9% (B), 9% → 7.2% (W), 22% → 12.6% (P)) due to consisting of one hit instead of seven.
- Up aerial's decreased hit count improves its juggling and KO potentials.
- Sweetspotted Red, Yellow, Blue and Purple Pikmin-based down aerials deal less damage (16% → 10.8% (R), 12% → 9% (Y), 13% → 9% (B), 13% → 12.6% (P)).
- Down aerial is much faster.
- Down aerial's sweetspot is harder to land.
Throws/other attacks
- White Pikmin-based throws deal more damage (6% → 7% (forward), 7% → 9% (back), 6% → 8% (up), 6% → 7.8% (down)).
- Red and Blue Pikmin-based forward throws deal less damage (6% → 5.6% (R), 13% → 11.2% (B)).
- Red and Blue Pikmin-based back throws deal more damage (7% → 7.2% (R), 14% → 14.4% (B)).
- Back throw has decreased knockback, even when using Blue Pikmin, hindering its KO potential.
- Red, Yellow and Purple Pikmin-based up throws deal less damage (9% → 6.4% (R), 11% → 8% (YP)).
- Blue Pikmin-based up throw deals 0.8% more damage (12% → 12.8%).
- Up throw has decreased knockback, especially when using Purple Pikmin. This improves its combo potential, but hinders its KO potential.
- Red Pikmin-based down throw deals 2.4% less damage (9% → 6.6%).
- Blue and Purple Pikmin-based down throws deal more damage (12% → 12.2% (B), 8% → 8.4% (P)).
- Edge attack deals less damage (8%/10% → 7%).
- Olimar has a new edge attack, a punch from the Pikmin series.
Special moves
- Pikmin Throw launches Pikmin much farther. This improves its zoning potential, but also makes the Pikmin easier to throw off the stage.
- Olimar has a new up special, Winged Pikmin. Unlike Pikmin Chain, Winged Pikmin is a controllable, flight-based recovery that covers covers much more distance and allows Olimar to attack out of it, similarly to Pit's Wings of Icarus in Brawl, making it much safer and much more versatile.
- Compared to Pikmin Chain, Winged Pikmin is significantly less effective if Olimar has more Pikmin, which may require him to sacrifice them to prevent himself from being KO'd or self-destructing. Its overall effectiveness also worsens if it is used consecutively. The loss of Pikmin Chain also removes Olimar's only tether.
- Pikmin Order grants less super armor frames (14 frames → 7).
- End of Day's explosion has a larger hitbox.
- End of Day has decreased knockback.
- Hocotate Ship's descent during End of Day can be aimed like a Warp Star, improving its accuracy.
Version exclusives
- Pikmin have more limited cosmetics, as their leaves do not turn into buds or flowers. Also, their idle animations are all synchronized.
- On rare occasions, two or three Pikmin may stand in the same spot in Olimar's line-up, leading to odd results. This can also make it difficult to tell which Pikmin will be used next.
- Thrown Pikmin can carry items to Olimar.[1] Despite being exclusive to this version, his alt. trophy in the version still makes mention of this feature.
Update history
Olimar has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update 1.0.4 made Pikmin Pluck unable to be edge-canceled and decreased the amount of damage that Red, Yellow, and Blue Pikmin deal when they latch onto opponents. To compensate for this, White Pikmin deal more damage when latched on and the latch time for all Pikmin was increased. Olimar also slightly benefits from the changes to shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and 1.1.1, as a latched Pikmin is noticeably better at dealing with a shielding opponent.
- The Pikmin's safespot distance from Olimar has decreased (5 → 4), making them follow Olimar sooner.
- However, there is also a shorter distance between the Pikmin's own safespots (5 → 4).
- All Pikmin except purple Pikmin run faster (40 → 60 (overall run speed), 2.4 (red/yellow/blue)/3 (white) → 3 (R/Y/B)/4 (W).
- Pikmin have increased follow distance (18 → 23) if they have to change direction.
- Pikmin follow the previous aerial velocity for a shorter period of time (15 frames → 8).
- Neutral, forward, and back aerials have less landing lag (17 frames → 15).
- Pikmin Pluck can no longer be edge-canceled.
- Red, Yellow and Blue Pikmin latched onto opponents deal less damage (1.3% → 1.1%).
- White Pikmin latched onto opponents deal more damage (2.6% → 3.7%).
- Purple Pikmin throw deal less damage (6.5% → 6%).
- Pikmin Throw's additional latch time has been increased (200 frames → 300).
- Fixed a glitch where reflecting Order Tackle would give the Pikmin a permanent power boost.
- Fixed a glitch where Pikmin Order no longer reverses from edge grabs.
Moveset
- All Pikmin-based moves and grabs use the next Pikmin in the line to perform the given attack, and the knockback and damage are dependent on the Pikmin type. That Pikmin then goes to the back of the line.
R: Red Pikmin, Y: Yellow Pikmin, B: Blue Pikmin, W: White Pikmin, P: Purple Pikmin
Name | Damage | Description | ||
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Neutral attack | 3% (early, clean arm), 4% (clean fist) | The first two alternating punches of the Rocket Fist ability from Pikmin 2. Its knockback and very quick speed enables it to act as pseudo-jab cancel at lower percents, thus allowing it to act as a set-up for a grab, or act as a tech-chase at higher percents. Performing it repeatedly will slightly move Olimar forward. | ||
3% (arm), 4% (fist) | ||||
Forward tilt | 11% | The powerful, wind-up punch of the Rocket Fist ability from Pikmin 2. It has impressive KO potential, KOing Bowser at 130% near the edge of Final Destination, and is Olimar's only KOing option when he does not have any Pikmin. However, it is also his slowest attack, coming out on frame 15. | ||
Up tilt | 0.6% (hits 1-6), 4% (hit 7) | A hopping twirl. It has very little start-up, which makes it useful as an anti-pressure option and out of shield option. | ||
Down tilt | 6% | A crouching headbutt. A useful combo starter due to its low knockback, it can combo into itself, his up tilt, his smash attacks and his aerials depending on the opponent's DI. | ||
Dash attack | 7% (hit 1), 4% (hit 2) | A cartwheel. It can combo into a string of up aerials from 0%-10%. Outside of this, its only other utility is being a mix-up and approach option, as it is unable to combo past extremely low percents or KO at a reasonable percent. | ||
Forward smash | R:17.4% (clean), 12% (mid), 7.2% (late) YB: 14.5% (clean), 10% (mid), 6% (late) W: 11.6% (clean), 8% (mid), 4.8% (late) P: 20.3% (clean), 14% (mid), 8.4% (late) |
Points forward and commands a Pikmin to perform a leaping, twisting tackle. The second fastest forward smash in the game, coming out on frame 11. Very powerful with the purple Pikmin, KOing Bowser at 40% near the ledge of Final Destination. Has a slight chance to trip opponents. | ||
Up smash | R: 15.6% (clean near), 12% (clean far), 13.2% (late) YB: 13% (clean near), 10% (clean far), 11% (late) W: 10.4% (clean near), 8% (clean far), 8.8% (late) P: 18.2% (clean near), 14% (clean far), 15.4% (late) |
Points upward and commands a Pikmin to perform a jumping, twisting headbutt. Very powerful with the purple Pikmin, KOing King Dedede at 70%. | ||
Down smash | R: 13.2% (clean), 10.8% (late) YB: 11% (clean), 9% (late) W: 8.8% (clean), 7.2% (late) P: 15.4% (clean), 12.6% (late) |
Crouches slightly, points to both of his sides and commands two Pikmin dash out to either side. If the opponent is close enough to Olimar, both Pikmin can hit the opponent, which can deal a maximum of 43% when performed with two Purple Pikmin. Very quick, has little ending lag and has a chance to trip opponents. | ||
Neutral aerial | 1.5% (hits 1-4), 2% (hit 5) | A hopping twirl that is identical to his up tilt. It has impressive set-up potential at any percent, as it allows him to follow-up with his up and down tilts, smash attacks or a grab. However, this only occurs if its last hit does not connect, which can be done by having Olimar land before it concludes. | ||
Forward aerial | 10.2% (R), 8.5% (YB), 6.8% (W), 11.9% (P) | Swings a Pikmin forward while holding its stem. | ||
Back aerial | 12.96% (R), 10.8% (YB), 8.64% (W), 15.12% (P) | Swings a Pikmin backward while holding its stem. | ||
Up aerial | 10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | Twirls a Pikmin upward while holding its stem. A viable KOing option, though it has a noticeable amount of landing lag. | ||
Down aerial | 10.8% (R), 9% (YB), 7.2% (W), 12.6% (P) | Swings a Pikmin downward while holding its stem. Its sweetspot is near the stem of the Pikmin and meteor smashes opponents. | ||
Grab | — | Sends a Pikmin forth to grab opponents. White Pikmin have the longest reach while Purple Pikmin have the shortest. | ||
Pummel | 2% (RYBP), 4% (W) | The Pikmin strikes the opponent with the top of its stem. When used with White Pikmin, its damage output is tied with Shulk's Buster-boosted pummel for the most damaging pummel in the game. | ||
Forward throw | 5.6% (R), 7% (YWP), 11.2% (B) | The Pikmin shoves the opponent away. It has no utility outside of dealing damage. | ||
Back throw | 7.2% (R), 9% (YWP), 14.4% (B) | The Pikmin swings the opponent backward. It dDeals the most damage out of Olimar's throws. | ||
Up throw | 6.4% (R), 8% (YWP), 12.8% (B) | The Pikmin jumps up and then slams into the opponent head-first. It is one of the strongest up throws in the game when used with Blue Pikmin. | ||
Down throw | R: 1% (hit 1), 5.6% (throw) Y: 1% (hit 1), 7% (throw) B: 1% (hit 1), 11.2% (throw) W: 0.8% (hit 1), 7% (throw) P: 1.4% (hit 1), 7% (throw) |
The Pikmin slams the opponent into the ground. A very reliable combo starter, such as into his neutral aerial from 0% to low percents, his forward aerial from 0% to high percents, and his up aerial from low to high percents. | ||
Forward roll Back roll Spot dodge Air dodge |
— | — | ||
Techs | — | — | ||
Floor attack (front) Floor getups (front) |
7% | |||
Floor attack (back) Floor getups (back) |
7% | Punches in front of himself and then behind himself while getting up. | ||
Floor attack (trip) Floor getups (trip) |
5% | |||
Edge attack Edge getups |
7% | Throws a punch while climbing up. | ||
Neutral special | Default | Pikmin Pluck | — | Plucks a Pikmin. It cannot be used in midair and has ending lag if it is attempted in midair or if no more Pikmin can be plucked. |
Custom 1 | Hardy Pikmin Pluck | — | Pikmin take much longer to pluck, but have much more health and knockback resistance. | |
Custom 2 | Explosive Pluck | 8% (RYB), 5% (W), 10% (P) | Plucking is slower and the Pikmin have less health, but each pluck causes an explosion. | |
Side special | Default | Pikmin Throw | 7.8% (thrown R), 6.5% (thrown YB), 5.2% (thrown W), 6.5% (P), 1.1% (latched RYB), 3.7% (latched W) | Throws a Pikmin, which latches onto opponents and damages them before falling off after a certain time or due to flinching. If the target cannot be latched onto, it simply deals damage. Purple Pikmin also simply tackle opponents due to their inability to latch onto anything. |
Custom 1 | Sticky Pikmin Throw | 7.8% (thrown R), 6.5% (thrown YB), 5.2% (thrown W), 9.1% (P), 1% (latched RYB), 2% (latched W) | Thrown Pikmin deal less damage per hit, but hit faster and remain latched on longer, dealing more damage overall. However, the distance Pikmin are thrown is considerably shorter. | |
Custom 2 | Tackle Pikmin Throw | 5% (RYB), 3% (W), 8% (P) | All Pikmin act like Purple Pikmin and tackle opponents instead of latching onto them. Red, Yellow, Blue and White Pikmin deal less damage, but Purple Pikmin deal more damage. | |
Up special | Default | Winged Pikmin | — | Two Winged Pikmin carry Olimar around, enabling him to recover. While being carried, Olimar can attack. Having more Pikmin or using the move consecutively decreases the Winged Pikmin's effectiveness, while attacking will render Olimar helpless. |
Custom 1 | Winged Pikmin Jump | — | Functions as a traditional recovery by lacking the maneuverability in order to quickly lift Olimar upward a certain distance before falling. It also pushes close opponents away. | |
Custom 2 | Mighty Winged Pikmin | — | The distance traveled does not depend on Pikmin carried, but it follows a fixed distance regardless of the amount of Pikmin in tow. | |
Down special | Default | Pikmin Order | — | Whistles to recall Pikmin, sort them and change which one is first in line. It also has utility in that it grants Olimar super armor, which can enable him to resist being launched. |
Custom 1 | Order Tackle | 3% (RYB), 2% (W), 5% (P) | Pikmin recalled deal damage, but it has some ending lag. | |
Custom 2 | Dizzy Whistle | 0.1% (hit 1), 1% (hit 2) | Deals damage and reverses opponents in the whistle effect, but it is slightly slower than the default version and has a noticeable amount of start-up. | |
Final Smash | End of Day | 10% (launch), 10% (ascent), 10% (descent), 12%/10% (explosion) | Jumps into his Hocotate Ship and launches into space, causing all nearby opponents to be buried. While the ship has left the stage, Red Bulborbs viciously assault opponents, inflicting steady damage. The Hocotate Ship finally crashes back down to the ground, dealing a considerable amount of damage and knockback to anyone caught in the explosion. |
On-screen appearance
- Exits the Hocotate Ship, plucks three Pikmin and then the Hocotate Ship disappears in a puff of smoke.
Taunts
- Up taunt: Joyfully jumps in place three times. Unlike in Brawl, it is accompanied by a sound effect.
- Side taunt: Lays down on the ground, rolls around as if basking in nature and then gets up. Unlike in Brawl, it is accompanied by a sound effect.
- Down taunt: Swings his hips. Unlike in Brawl, it is accompanied by a sound effect.
Up taunt | Side taunt | Down taunt |
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Idle poses
- Rubs his helmet with both hands.
- Moves his arms back and forward in a basic limber exercise.
Crowd cheer
Olimar | English | Japanese |
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Cheer | ||
Description | Olimar! Olimar! Olimar! | Pik-min! Ol-i-mar! |
Pitch | Group chant | Group chant |
Alph | English | Japanese |
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Cheer | ||
Description | Alph! Alph! Alph! | Pik-min! Al-ph! |
Pitch | Group chant | Group chant |
Victory poses
- Plucks a White, Blue and Purple Pikmin. The White Pikmin and Blue Pikmin bounce off his head, and then the Purple Pikmin squashes Olimar onto the ground. Olimar's eyes will comically bulge outward upon being squashed before his expression returns to normal, whereas Alph will comically wince upon being squashed before his expression returns to normal.
- Moves his arms up and down while a Yellow Pikmin sits on the ground and the Red Pikmin looks around.
- Sways in place while the Red, Yellow, and Blue Pikmin run around him in a circle.
In competitive play
Official Custom Moveset Project
Character | Custom sets available | ||||
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Olimar | 1112 | 1311 | 1312 | 1212 | 2112 |
2212 | 2211 | 2312 | 2131 | 3312 |
Notable players
Trophies
- Olimar
- Captain Olimar, veteran Hocotate Freight astronaut, joins forces with Pikmin again in this game to take on the world. Olimar isn't much of an attacker without Pikmin by his side, so you should always keep some ready. Pikmin have different abilities depending on their colour, so learn how they work to use them effectively!
- Olimar (Alt.)
- Pikmin aren't just good for attacking, you know. For example, when you throw them, they can pick up items on their way back. Only items that aren't very heavy, but still! Also, if there's someone charging or shooting at you, a well-timed Pikmin throw can stop them. Just don't forget to replace your Pikmin when they're gone!
- End of Day
- On the planet Olimar is investigating, the native creatures become extra violent at night, forcing him to retreat to orbit every evening. His Final Smash works the same way: night falls and Olimar takes to the sky, leaving his foes to the mercy of the wildlife below. Olimar returns when dawn breaks and you can adjust his less-than-safe landing!
- On the planet of the Pikmin, the native creatures get quite violent come nightfall, so Olimar retreats into orbit every evening. That's how his Final Smash works, too: Olimar takes off in his trusty Dolphin[sic], then in comes the beasties to take care of the other fighters. When Olimar returns, make sure he touches down, er...safely!
- OlimarAllStarTrophy3DS.png
Alt. (3DS)
In Event Matches
Solo Events
- A Battle of Scale: A tiny Olimar must defeat a giant Bowser.
- All-Star Battle: Brawl: Olimar is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents debuted in Brawl.
- The Big 7650!: As Pac-Man, the player must use his Final Smash, Super Pac-Man, on three Olimars within 15 seconds.
Co-op Events
- Poisonous Planet: A flowered Olimar and Samus must defeat two giant Charizard in a Stamina Battle before their own health is depleted.
- Solidarity: Olimar and Rosalina & Luma must initially defeat Mario and Luigi. After defeating them, they must defeat Bowser and Bowser Jr.
- The Ultimate Battle: Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster.
- Visiting Onett: Olimar is one of the six opponents Ness and Villager must defeat. All opponents are outer-space-based characters.
Alternate costumes
Instead of alternate color schemes, half of Olimar's alternate costumes consist of Alph, one of the three playable characters from Pikmin 3.
Gallery
Olimar's amiibo.
Olimar's appearance in 'Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'.
Olimar in 'Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS'.
Using forward smash with a Red Pikmin on Fox.
Using back aerial with a White Pikmin on Mega Man.
Olimar running from Bowser while the ghost of a deceased Blue Pikmin is visible.
Pikmin looking up at Kirby.
Olimar's Pikmin near Mega Man.
Olimar and Wii Fit Trainer on Wii Fit Studio.
Using Winged Pikmin, his new up special.
Trivia
- Because Olimar's placement in All-Star Mode is based on his own debut rather than that of Alph (whose debut in Pikmin 3 came twelve years after Olimar's debut in Pikmin), Alph will be misplaced chronologically during All-Star Mode if he appears in Olimar's place. The same applies to Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings.
- Olimar's All-Star trophy in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS is highly similar to his Brawl artwork.
- Olimar is the only character who does not use his official alt. trophy when he is faced in rounds 4-5 in Classic Mode in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Instead, he uses Alph's trophy.
- In Pikmin 3, Alph does not ride the Hocotate Ship, but rather the S.S. Drake. In SSB4, he uses the Hocotate Ship for his on-screen appearance and Final Smash, regardless.
- Olimar and Alph have different expressions when damaged. Olimar's eyes comically bulge out, something he commonly does in Pikmin 2, while Alph's eyes comically wince.
- Olimar is the only character to have only one special move in his default moveset that deals damage.
- He is also the only character to have a special move (in this case, Winged Pikmin) where none of its custom variants deal any damage.
- In the European version of the End of Day trophy, it mistakenly says that Olimar/Alph uses the Dolphin, while they actually use the Hocotate Ship in the Final Smash.
References
Fighters in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Veterans | Bowser · Captain Falcon · Charizard · Diddy Kong · Donkey Kong · Dr. Mario · Falco · Fox · Ganondorf · Ike · Jigglypuff · King Dedede · Kirby · Link · Lucario · Lucas · Luigi · Mario · Marth · Meta Knight · Mewtwo · Mr. Game & Watch · Ness · Olimar · Peach · Pikachu · Pit · R.O.B. · Roy · Samus · Sheik · Sonic · Toon Link · Wario · Yoshi · Zelda · Zero Suit Samus |
Newcomers | Bayonetta · Bowser Jr. · Cloud · Corrin · Dark Pit · Duck Hunt · Greninja · Little Mac · Lucina · Mega Man · Mii Fighter (Mii Brawler · Mii Gunner · Mii Swordfighter) · Pac-Man · Palutena · Robin · Rosalina & Luma · Ryu · Shulk · Villager · Wii Fit Trainer |
Pikmin universe | |
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Fighter | Olimar (SSBB · SSB4 · SSBU) (Pikmin) (Alph) |
Assist Trophy | Burrowing Snagret |
Stages | Distant Planet · Garden of Hope |
Item | Hocotate Bomb |
Enemies | Bulborb · Iridescent Glint Beetle |
Other | Hocotate Ship · Peckish Aristocrab · Pellet · Plasm Wraith · Yellow Wollywog |
Trophies, Stickers and Spirits | Trophies (SSBB · SSB4) · Stickers · Spirits |
Music | Brawl · SSB4 · Ultimate |