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Ness possesses three [[projectile]]s: [[PK Flash]], [[PK Fire]], and [[PK Thunder]]. PK Flash can be used as an extremely powerful punishing or edge-guarding option, dealing huge knockback which can Star KO even Bowser, the heaviest character under 60%. PK Fire is fairly quick, possesses a good amount of range, and the projectile holds opponents in it when it hits them (while being difficult to SDI out of), allowing Ness free follow-ups (it can combo into a grab, a PK Fire or down tilt infinite and a forward smash to finish the opponent) as long as he acts quickly enough, also, it can be used off-stage to gimp fast-fallers and heavyweights in conjunction with down air. PK Thunder is one of the more unique projectiles in the game. When used, the player will lose control of Ness and instead take control of a large and powerful thunder ball for a few seconds. PK Thunder can essentially be used to knock opponents towards Ness for follow ups, to mindgame opponents in conjunction with PK Thunder 2 to finish them, edgeguard and juggle opponents. The knockback it provides can also hit an opponent over the upper blast line (especially light and floaty characters), allowing it to be used as a situational [[KO]] move as well, and it can allow him to use the massively powerful PK Thunder 2. His down special move, [[PSI Magnet]], provides a psychic shield that can heal him when hit with an energy based attack and is extremely effective against characters such as Samus or the Mii Gunner, quickly healing him until very low percentages.
Ness possesses three [[projectile]]s: [[PK Flash]], [[PK Fire]], and [[PK Thunder]]. PK Flash can be used as an extremely powerful punishing or edge-guarding option, dealing huge knockback which can Star KO even Bowser, the heaviest character under 60%. PK Fire is fairly quick, possesses a good amount of range, and the projectile holds opponents in it when it hits them (while being difficult to SDI out of), allowing Ness free follow-ups (it can combo into a grab, a PK Fire or down tilt infinite and a forward smash to finish the opponent) as long as he acts quickly enough, also, it can be used off-stage to gimp fast-fallers and heavyweights in conjunction with down air. PK Thunder is one of the more unique projectiles in the game. When used, the player will lose control of Ness and instead take control of a large and powerful thunder ball for a few seconds. PK Thunder can essentially be used to knock opponents towards Ness for follow ups, to mindgame opponents in conjunction with PK Thunder 2 to finish them, edgeguard and juggle opponents. The knockback it provides can also hit an opponent over the upper blast line (especially light and floaty characters), allowing it to be used as a situational [[KO]] move as well, and it can allow him to use the massively powerful PK Thunder 2. His down special move, [[PSI Magnet]], provides a psychic shield that can heal him when hit with an energy based attack and is extremely effective against characters such as Samus or the Mii Gunner, quickly healing him until very low percentages.


Ness's biggest strength is found in his superb aerial game. All of Ness's aerial moves can be used to either space, combo, or KO. All except down aerial are capable of [[auto-canceling]] in a [[short hop]]. His neutral aerial possesses very little startup and ending lag, and hits on both sides of Ness, making it a very useful [[out of shield]] option. His forward aerial has quick startup, a large, disjointed hitbox, and traps opponents, essentially allowing it to chain into either itself or another move. It is a powerful [[spacing]] tool and very useful in [[approach]]ing opponents. His up aerial can be used to combo at lower percents and KO reliably at higher percents. It possesses a large hitbox and little lag, allowing it to be of low risk to use. His back aerial is another reliable KO move that possesses low lag. His down aerial has long range and can be useful in edgeguarding and breaking [[juggle]]s, although it has significant startup in comparison to his other aerials.
Ness's biggest strength is found in his superb aerial game. All of Ness's aerial moves can be used to either space, combo, or KO. All except down aerial are capable of [[auto-canceling]] in a [[short hop]]. His neutral aerial possesses very little startup and ending lag, and hits on both sides of Ness, making it a very useful [[out of shield]] option. His forward aerial has quick startup, a large, disjointed hitbox, and traps opponents, essentially allowing it to chain into either itself or another move. It is a powerful [[spacing]] tool and very useful in [[approach]]ing opponents. His up aerial can be used to combo at lower percents and KO reliably at higher percents. It possesses a large hitbox and little lag, allowing it to be of low risk to use. His back aerial is another reliable KO move that possesses low lag. His down aerial has a sourspot with long range and can be occasionally useful in edgeguarding and breaking [[juggle]]s, although it has significant startup in comparison to his other aerials. Fortunately, it autocancels until the hitbox comes out; Ness can abuse this property to Tomahawk and buffer landing options, mix up his platform movement, and occasionally avoid techchase situations.


While Ness's aerial make him a formidable fighter at close quarters, he can also pressure from afar. His dash attack has an exceptionally long range and is useful to approach. PK Fire covers a lot of ground and can be used to perform a [[PK Jump]], which has amazing range and is very rewarding, yet very risky. A less risky maneuver known as [[PSI Floating]] can be performed involves airdodging as the double jump is activated. The timing window for this is much less strict, and results in the jump sending Ness around 25% higher. This lets Ness travel farther and longer than expected, improving his recovery. As well, Ness can instantly snap the ledge by doing [[PSI Floating]] and then immediately starting PK Thunder when it's nearby the ledge.
While Ness's aerial make him a formidable fighter at close quarters, he can also pressure from afar. His dash attack has an exceptionally long range and is useful to approach. PK Fire covers a lot of ground and can be used to perform a [[PK Jump]], which has amazing range and is very rewarding, yet very risky. A less risky maneuver known as [[PSI Floating]] can be performed involves airdodging as the double jump is activated. The timing window for this is much less strict, and results in the jump sending Ness around 25% higher. This lets Ness travel farther and longer than expected, improving his recovery. As well, Ness can instantly snap the ledge by doing [[PSI Floating]] and then immediately starting PK Thunder when it's nearby the ledge.

Revision as of 19:09, December 10, 2017

This article is about Ness's appearance in Super Smash Bros. 4. For the character in other contexts, see Ness.
Ness
in Super Smash Bros. 4
Ness
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Universe EarthBound
Other playable appearances in SSB
in Melee
in Brawl
Availability Unlockable (3DS)
Starter (Wii U)
Final Smash PK Starstorm
Tier C (24)
Ness (SSB4)

Ness (ネス, Ness) returns as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4. Ness was officially confirmed on October 3rd, 2014, alongside Falco and Wario, coinciding with the Western release of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. As in every previous Smash Bros. installation, Ness is voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, who has now recorded new voice clips for both versions of the game.

Ness currently ranks 24th out of 58 characters on the tier list, placing him at the very start of the C tier and the top of mid tier. This is a vast improvement from his 26th out of 38 in Brawl, and his best placement compared to previous Smash Bros. games. Ness no longer suffers from having 10 extra grab release frames, which was a huge detriment to his survival. Besides that, Ness possesses arguably the best grab game among the entire cast (competing with Mewtwo's), with his forward and up throws leaving opponents in very unfavorable positions, his down throw being a great combo starter and his back throw being the most powerful throw in the game, on top of being difficult to DI properly. Other notable strengths include an effective projectile game with PK Fire and PK Thunder, a formidable air game courtesy of his powerful aerials, and a versatile combo game thanks to his throws and aerials. Despite being a middleweight, he also has high raw KO power and high damage output, a prime example being his aerials, forward smash, PK Flash and PK Thunder 2. Finally, due to the strengths above, Ness possesses very useful options to cover getups from a ledge or on the ground.

However, Ness has rather sub-par mobility and range, which often forces him to be methodical with his approaches, or play defensively in order to gain the lead, which can leave him at a disadvantage against characters with greater range on their attacks such as Cloud. His KO power, while consistent, is relegated to only his back throw and his up-air, as most of his powerful attacks are hard to land in the neutral game. Lastly and the most problematic is his recovery. Despite being greatly improved, PK Thunder remains quite gimpable as the lightning bolt can clang with other attacks, while opponents can forcibly push Ness out of the way or even take a hit from the lightning bolt, making his recovery fail.

Currently, Ness's tier placement is debatable. While Ness has poor matchups against several characters that were ranked higher than him, particularly Cloud, Rosalina & Luma, Marth, and Corrin, Ness has achieved good representation and noticeable top players such as FOW, S1, The Great Gonzales, Gackt, and NAKAT. Ness also achieved above average results and wins thanks to these said top players most notably FOW placing 13th at 2GGC: Nairo Saga, The Great Gonzales placing 5th at Royal Flush, S1 placing 5th at B.E.A.S.T 7 and 7th at Syndicate 2017, NAKAT placing 13th at EVO 2017 while mostly going Ness, and most recently, Gackt placing 17th at The Big House 7. From this, while some smashers generally argued that he should be ranked slightly lower due to his poor matchups from the higher ranked characters, other smashers argued that he should be ranked higher due to his favorable representation, results, and wins.

How to unlock

Complete one of the following:

After completing one of the two methods, Ness must then be defeated on Magicant.

In Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, Ness is playable from the start.

Attributes

Ness is an unusual blend of character archetypes, being a short, projectile-heavy character with a lot of versatility with his moves. Ness's weight is average and his falling speed is rather slow, giving him no disadvantage with weight alone. His walking speed is slow while his dashing speed and air speed are both sub-par, but his air acceleration is very high.

Ness possesses three projectiles: PK Flash, PK Fire, and PK Thunder. PK Flash can be used as an extremely powerful punishing or edge-guarding option, dealing huge knockback which can Star KO even Bowser, the heaviest character under 60%. PK Fire is fairly quick, possesses a good amount of range, and the projectile holds opponents in it when it hits them (while being difficult to SDI out of), allowing Ness free follow-ups (it can combo into a grab, a PK Fire or down tilt infinite and a forward smash to finish the opponent) as long as he acts quickly enough, also, it can be used off-stage to gimp fast-fallers and heavyweights in conjunction with down air. PK Thunder is one of the more unique projectiles in the game. When used, the player will lose control of Ness and instead take control of a large and powerful thunder ball for a few seconds. PK Thunder can essentially be used to knock opponents towards Ness for follow ups, to mindgame opponents in conjunction with PK Thunder 2 to finish them, edgeguard and juggle opponents. The knockback it provides can also hit an opponent over the upper blast line (especially light and floaty characters), allowing it to be used as a situational KO move as well, and it can allow him to use the massively powerful PK Thunder 2. His down special move, PSI Magnet, provides a psychic shield that can heal him when hit with an energy based attack and is extremely effective against characters such as Samus or the Mii Gunner, quickly healing him until very low percentages.

Ness's biggest strength is found in his superb aerial game. All of Ness's aerial moves can be used to either space, combo, or KO. All except down aerial are capable of auto-canceling in a short hop. His neutral aerial possesses very little startup and ending lag, and hits on both sides of Ness, making it a very useful out of shield option. His forward aerial has quick startup, a large, disjointed hitbox, and traps opponents, essentially allowing it to chain into either itself or another move. It is a powerful spacing tool and very useful in approaching opponents. His up aerial can be used to combo at lower percents and KO reliably at higher percents. It possesses a large hitbox and little lag, allowing it to be of low risk to use. His back aerial is another reliable KO move that possesses low lag. His down aerial has a sourspot with long range and can be occasionally useful in edgeguarding and breaking juggles, although it has significant startup in comparison to his other aerials. Fortunately, it autocancels until the hitbox comes out; Ness can abuse this property to Tomahawk and buffer landing options, mix up his platform movement, and occasionally avoid techchase situations.

While Ness's aerial make him a formidable fighter at close quarters, he can also pressure from afar. His dash attack has an exceptionally long range and is useful to approach. PK Fire covers a lot of ground and can be used to perform a PK Jump, which has amazing range and is very rewarding, yet very risky. A less risky maneuver known as PSI Floating can be performed involves airdodging as the double jump is activated. The timing window for this is much less strict, and results in the jump sending Ness around 25% higher. This lets Ness travel farther and longer than expected, improving his recovery. As well, Ness can instantly snap the ledge by doing PSI Floating and then immediately starting PK Thunder when it's nearby the ledge.

Ness's grab game is also very strong. His standing grab has decent range and is fast, his pivot grab is surprisingly disjointed and his dash grab gives him a substantial speed boost. Also, Ness can easily trap careless opponents with aforementioned PK Fire and PK Jump in order to set up for a grab combo. Ness possesses one of the fastest pummels in the game, allowing him to deal a decent amount of damage before throwing. His down throw easily sets up for aerial attacks, leading into a forward air at lower percents (which can be used multiple times by following the opponent's DI) or an up air at higher percents. Ness's forward throw has very high base knockback and can set up edgeguards. Up throw can be used to play situational mindgames with PK Thunder. Ness's infamous back throw is the strongest throw in the game; while it has very low base knockback, it has extremely high knockback scaling and is often regarded as his most effective and commonly used KO option.

Ness is not completely infallible, however. He possesses below average speed in both the ground and the air, making it hard for him to chase faster opponents. His ground game is also generally weak as he possesses short-ranged tilt attacks. His up and down smashes are also lackluster. While his up smash can be used as an out of shield option and his down smash as a situational edgeguard, both KO considerably later than his other KO options in a neutral situation, and his forward smash, while extremely powerful, possesses high ending lag and is easily punishable if it misses. Ness's biggest flaw, however, is his recovery. While there have been various buffs to his recovery that make it much more reliable and viable than in previous Smash games, it is still relatively easy to gimp for characters with multiple jumps, such as Jigglypuff, Kirby and Meta Knight, or with moves that reflect or absorb, such as Rosalina, Villager, and Pit.

Custom moves can give Ness great advantages and brand new options. PK Freeze can freeze opponents, allowing free follow-ups, especially with PK Fire. PK Fire Burst has more range and power and always goes straight, making it a spacing tool rather than a combo tool. Lasting PK Thunder goes right through opponents and moves slower, allowing for better control. Recovery with PK Thunder 2 is also longer, significantly improving Ness' offstage survivability. Rolling PK Thunder travels much slower but is much stronger. While the recovery with PK Thunder 2 is mediocre due to the drastically decreased distance of it, the move is also significantly stronger, which allows it to KO even earlier than normal PK Thunder 2. Forward PSI Magnet is the same, but has a semi-spike hitbox in front of Ness, functioning similar to Fox's Reflector. Finally, if the opponent has no energy projectiles, PSI Vacuum is the optimal choice, as it draws opponents in and is the strongest of Ness's down special moves damage-wise.

Overall, Ness is viewed as a very potent character in tournament play. He is believed to have a very solid matchup spread, with Rosalina and Luma and perhaps Villager being the only characters that truly counter him solidly.

Changes from Brawl

Ness has been heavily buffed in the transition from Brawl to SSB4. His 10 extra frame grab-release animation, which was one of his most detrimental flaws, has been removed, and many of the other flaws he had have been addressed. Ness also greatly benefits from the general changes of SSB4, as the new edge-trumping mechanic makes his recovery much harder to gimp, and the changes to hitstun canceling allows him to combo with his moves much more efficiently. Overall, Ness is significantly better than he ever was in previous Super Smash Bros. games and he has also seen solid tournament representation and greatly improved results due to his vast improvement.

Aesthetics

  • Change Ness has a brighter color palette, and has lost the blushes on his cheeks and the purple hue in his eyes. He is also slightly taller and thinner, with a smaller and more proportionate head, and a smaller backpack. He also lacks the partial yellow stripe that he had at the bottom of his shirt.
  • Change Ness is more expressive.

Attributes

  • Buff Ness walks faster (0.86 → 0.8635).
  • Buff Ness dashes faster (1.39 → 1.46265).
  • Buff Ness no longer has an extra 10 frames of lag from being grab-released, bringing him in line with everyone else, and making him significantly less vulnerable to grab release follow-ups.
  • Change All of Ness's electric attacks except for his specials are now a normal effect except for his back aerial's sweetspot, as it is actually a magic effect. They use a graphic effect similar to Lucas's attacks (forward aerial, up smash, etc.) instead of using the same graphic effect as his double jump.
  • Nerf The changes in shieldstun makes some of his attacks slightly less safe on shield compared to the cast.

Ground attacks

  • Nerf Neutral attack deals 1% less damage (9% → 8%).
  • Buff Dash attack now launches at a vertical trajectory in front of Ness (80°) instead of behind him (100°), making followups easier.
  • Change The first hit of dash attack no longer deals consistent damage (5% → 4%/7%/3%). Dash attack also has more intense lighting effects.
  • Nerf The second hit of dash attack deals less damage (4% → 2%).
  • Nerf Forward tilt does 2% less damage un-angled (11% → 9%) and 1% less damage when angled (11% → 10%). Now has a more notable ending animation where Ness holds up his left hand.
  • Buff Up tilt now involves Ness releasing a burst of magic from his hands, increasing vertical reach.
  • Nerf Up tilt starts up slightly slower (frame 5 → 7) and now has a sourspot that deals 2% less damage.
  • Change Up tilt's animation is more similar to that of Smash 64, and its sweetspot now has a magic sound effect instead of a punching sound effect.
  • Nerf Down tilt now has a sourspot at the end of Ness's foot that deals 2% less damage (4% → 2%).
  • Buff Forward smash deals drastically more knockback (50 base/62 scaling → 70/67), going from a below-average powered forward smash in Brawl to one of the most powerful forward smashes in Smash 4. Its reflector now has a speed and power multiplier, drastically improving its punishing utility.
  • Nerf One of forward smash's tipper hitboxes has been completely removed, so that its maximum damage potential when uncharged is 22% instead of 24%, and its reflector now has a limit, where if he tries to reflect a projectile that is too strong to reflect, Ness will experience about 300 frames (5 seconds) of ending lag.
  • Buff Yo-yo smashes (up smash and down smash) now deal properly-increased damage when charged and are now stronger.
  • Nerf Yo-yo smashes are charged while still in Ness's hand, removing their pre-charge hitboxes.
  • Change Yo-yo is colored green, instead of yellow.
  • Buff Up smash now has a small hitbox behind Ness that comes out on frame 6. While this new hitbox is considered a sourspot, dealing less damage and knockback, it is a buff as it puts out a hitbox earlier and covers his back during startup, strengthening the up smash's use as an out of shield option.
  • Buff Down smash now sends opponents at a low semi-spike angle instead of diagonally, greatly improving its edgeguarding utility.

Aerial attacks

  • Nerf Neutral aerial's hitbox is shorter in duration.
  • Buff Forward aerial's individual hits now chain significantly better, and can now result in multiple forward aerials in a row, improving Ness's combo and damage capabilities.
  • Nerf Forward aerial deals 4% less damage (11% → 7%) along with significantly more landing lag (12 frames → 20 frames).
  • Nerf Back aerial has moderately increased landing lag (12 frames → 17 frames).
  • Buff Back aerial has more range.
  • Nerf Up aerial has slightly more landing lag (12 frames → 14 frames).
  • Buff Down aerial now has an extra spin in its animation, with Ness facing at a different orientation as he kicks downward with his toes instead of the stamp of his foot; the new special effect at his toes gives its hitbox more range, along with having its sourspot deals 1% more damage (9% → 10%).
  • Nerf Down aerial's clean and late hits have smaller hitboxes (6.54u/6.54u (clean/late) → 3.9u/6u), a shorter duration (4 frames → 2 (clean), 5 frames → 4 (late)), and have drastically decreased base knockback (90/90 (clean/late) → 20/30), with both hits now being incapable of KOing at realistic percentage. Down aerial also autocancels later (frame 29 → 50). As a result, the meteor smash is much harder to hit with, and the move is now generally inferior to his other aerials.
  • Change Down aerial uses the magic sound effect on hit instead of a punch sound effect in prior games.

Throws/other attacks

  • Buff Pivot grab's range is now large and disjointed.
  • Nerf Pivot grab comes out slower.
  • Buff Pummel is faster.
  • Buff Up throw's ending lag has been significantly decreased.
  • Buff The changes to hitstun canceling significantly benefits down throw, as he can now use it to set up into his aerials much more effectively.
  • Nerf Down throw does less damage (9% → 7%).
  • Change Down throw has less fire graphics.

Special moves

  • Buff PK Flash travels faster. It travels even faster and gains even more distance if directed behind Ness. Turning around before using this move might prove useful, depending on prediction.
  • Change PK Flash is now a much darker green.
  • Buff PK Fire travels slightly farther.
  • Nerf PK Fire has 1 more frame of ending lag. It now travels much farther back to Ness if reflected rather than petering out after traveling its set distance.
  • Change PK Fire's effect after hitting an opponent produces darker colored flames and more smoke.
  • Change When interrupted whilst starting up PK Fire, Ness stops reciting the attack's name.
  • Buff PK Thunder travels faster, has less cooldown, a much larger hitbox, is more powerful, travels in a drastically tighter arc and goes through opponents until the tail disconnects from Ness with 1% more damage, making him less susceptible to being gimped. PK Thunder 2 is much faster, much stronger (now KOing at around 30%), and when Ness bounces off a wall while recovering with it, he can initiate PK Thunder again during the bounce.
  • Nerf PK Thunder 2 has increased ending lag.
  • Change PK Thunder and PSI Magnet are now light blue like in Melee.
  • Buff PSI Magnet has significantly less ending lag, with Ness now being able to act out of it much quicker. It's also larger, increasing its range.
  • Nerf PSI Magnet swirls projectiles around it, causing a slight delay until Ness can actually be healed. If Ness were to drop PSI Magnet and/or be launched, the absorbed projectiles may take even longer to reach him, but they will still heal him eventually.
  • Change The swirling of captured attacks by PSI Magnet utterly nullifies even projectiles that would continue past Ness, including Thoron and Thunder.
  • Change PK Starstorm now fires a thin, aimable line of meteors from the top-center of the stage, similar to how Aura Storm functioned. This enables it to deal damage more reliably at the cost of having blind spots.
  • Change PK Starstorm now has a flame effect, instead of an electric effect.

Update history

Ness has been slightly nerfed overall in game updates. His most notable nerfs are the reduced damage output to his down throw and PK Fire having slightly more endlag. The changes to shield mechanics also hamper him slightly due to the majority of his non PSI-based moves having a rather low damage output. Ness has also got some other useful buffs, however, such as a faster PSI Magnet and his down aerial having a bigger hitbox and lasts one more frame (though it's still his least useful aerial), and while the buffs do not truly compensate for his nerfs, he remains a strong character.

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS 1.0.4

  • Buff The period Ness can be at his maximum fall speed before using hard landing lag has been lengthened: 4 → 5 frames.
  • Nerf PK Thunder and all custom variations have 6 frames more ending lag.
  • Buff Down throw's five hits have gained additional hitboxes, allowing them to hit Mr. Game & Watch.
  • Nerf Down throw's five hits before release deal less damage: 1% → 0.6%.
  • Nerf Down throw's release has increased knockback: 90 base/30 growth → 70/80, hindering its combo ability at high percents.


Super Smash Bros. 4 1.0.6

  • Change Forward smash's has an updated sound effect when reflecting projectiles.
  • Change Down throw's screen shaking effect is more pronounced.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.0.8

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.0

  • Buff Down aerial's meteor smash hitbox size increased: 3.5u → 3.9u and duration increased.
  • Nerf PK Fire's ending lag increased.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.1

  • Buff Rising PK Flash's knockback altered base knockback decreased: 80 (base)/30 (scaling) → 50/80, improving its KO potential.
  • Nerf Rising PK Flash's first hitbox's duration decreased: 3 → 2.
  • Change Rising PK Flash minimum charge increased.
  • Buff Rising PK Flash's range increased: 10 → 13.
  • Buff PK Freeze range increased: 10 → 11.
  • Buff PK Fire Burst deals 1% more damage: 1%/8% → 2%/9% and hits earlier.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.3

  • Nerf PSI Magnet heals halved damage from absorbing teammates' projectiles.


Moveset

  Name Damage Description
Neutral attack   2% Punches twice, then kicks. The first hit can lock at low percents.
2%
4%
Forward tilt   10% A roundhouse kick. Can be angled, making it deal 1% more damage. It can also lock at low percents.
9%
10%
Up tilt   7% (arms) 5% (hands) Pushes upward with both hands that produces a PSI spark. Has a sourpot located on his hands that deals 5%.
Down tilt   4% (foot), 2% (toes) A swift shin kick. Extremely spammable and can be used to jab reset. Has a sourspot located on the tip of his foot. Has a chance of making the opponent trip.
Dash attack   4%/3% (hit 1), 7% (hit 1 aerial), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3) Sends three PSI sparks out in front of him with the third spark knocking the opponent up into the air. The first spark deals more damage to aerial targets. Good to set up juggles and pressuring from afar. Difficult to punish on shield if only the last hit connects.
Forward smash   18% (low), 20% (mid), 22% (tip), 2× damage (reflected projectiles) Swings his bat. It is the second strongest forward smash in the game when sweetspotted at the tip of the bat and still one of the strongest forward smashes when untippered, but it has some start-up and ending lag. The bat itself will reflect incoming projectiles when he swings it. However, reflecting a projectile that is too strong to reflect can cause him to have terribly long endlag, making it incredibly unsafe if the opponent is nearby.
Up smash   9%-13% Sends his yo-yo forward and performs "around-the-world" over himself. A decent anti-air and a good out of shield option. It is more powerful if the opponent is behind Ness, but it's still the weakest up smash in the game, not KOing until roughly 137%.
Down smash   1% (hit 1, front and back) 1% (hit 2, front and back) 10% (hit 3, front and back) Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walk-the-cat" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Covers get up options well, but cannot connect well if the opponent is at the longest range of the move.
Neutral aerial   11% (clean), 7% (late) Spins diagonally in the air with his arms outstretched. Quick, and acts like a sex kick. Can be followed-up after a down throw. Rather useful to break combos and as an out of shield option. Autocancels from a short hop.
Forward aerial   1% (hit 1-3) 4% (hit 4) Sticks his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him. Decently safe on shield if Ness retreats during the attack, useful to start and continue combos. Autocancels from a short hop.
Back aerial   15% (clean), 8% (late) Ness kicks out backwards with both feet. The initial hit is immensely strong, KOing at 125% onstage and even lower at the ledge. Autocancels from a short hop.
Up aerial   13% An upwards headbutt. It is considered one of Ness' best aerials, due to its rather quick startup, power that makes it effective for comboing at low percentages and KOing at high ones, starting at 115%. Autocancels from a short hop.
Down aerial   12% (sweetspot), 10% (sourspot) Pulls his legs to his body before stomping down into the air, producing a PSI spark. This attack can meteor smash on the first frame. It has slow start up, as it comes out on frame 20 and has lots of landing lag (28 frames). It only autocancels before the hitbox comes out, making it useful to cancel the tumble animation when Ness is near the ground.
Grab   Grabs with both hands. Fast, but below average range.
Pummel   1.2% Headbutts the opponent. A fast pummel.
Forward throw   11% Psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward. Very high base knockback, but incredibly low scaling, KOing at percents generally not even seen in a standard match (starting at around 850%). However, it can KO very easily on Smashville or Town and City at 0%, depending on the platform's position.
Back throw   11% Psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Possesses very low base knockback but incredibly high knockback scaling, making it the strongest throw in the entire game, KOing Bowser, the heaviest character in the game, with optimal DI at 122% near the ledge without rage.
Up throw   10% Psychokinetically spins the opponent above his head before sending them up. Leaves the opponent in an unfavorable position where they can be juggled, most commonly by PK Thunder.
Down throw   0.6% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) Throws the opponent onto the ground and scorches them with PK Fire. A strong combo starter, having guaranteed follow-ups into neutral aerial, forward aerial and up aerial.
Forward roll
Back roll
Spot dodge
Air dodge
Techs
Floor attack (front)
Floor getups (front)
  7%
Floor attack (back)
Floor getups (back)
  7%
Floor attack (trip)
Floor getups (trip)
  5%
Edge attack
Edge getups
  7% Flips onto the stage and does a sweep kick.
Neutral special Default PK Flash 9%-37% A green plasma-like energy projectile appears above Ness. As the special attack button is held, the sphere moves downwards and increases in power, until the attack button is released or until it is fully charged, it explodes. Can KO as low 37% fully charged.
Custom 1 Rising PK Flash 8%-24% A magenta colored PK Flash that keeps rising, hence the name. Has minimal control and deals less damage, but has a larger hitbox.
Custom 2 PK Freeze 10%-19% Inflicts less damage, but freezes opponents. Works like Lucas's neutral special, except with the same movement as PK Flash. His voice clips also changes.
Side special Default PK Fire 4% (lightning), 2% (fire) Fires a yellow, lightning-bolt shaped projectile, that travels in a straight line until it hits an enemy or destructible portion of a stage, at which point it explodes into a gradually-fading pillar of fire, making said enemy vulnerable. Fires at a downward 50 degree angle if used in the air.
Custom 1 PK Bonfire 2% (lightning), 3%-5% (fire) The lightning-bolt doesn't travel as far, but the flame pillar is stronger and it sticks around longer. Has much less combo potential due to its increased ending lag and knockback.
Custom 2 PK Fire Burst 2% (lightning), 9% (fire) Releases a single flame when it hits and knocks opponents farther. It will always travel horizontally even when used in the air, similar to Lucas's variant of PK Fire. It also travels further distance.
Up special Default PK Thunder 8% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 25% (PK Thunder 2 initial hitbox), 21% (PK Thunder 2 late hitbox) Creates a stream of lightning that can be aimed into opponents to deal damage with the head and stun with the tail. Aiming the head into Ness himself will launch him in a trajectory opposite to the side he was hit on, which is referred to as PK Thunder 2. PK Thunder 2 has invincibility frames during the first half of the move. Ness' recovery move, but it can be easily gimped during startup.
Custom 1 Lasting PK Thunder 7% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 1.5% (PK Thunder 2, each hit), 10% (PK Thunder 2, last hit) Functions identically to Lucas's counterpart, with tighter turning and both the projectile and Ness piercing enemies. Deals less damage, but launches Ness further.
Custom 2 Rolling PK Thunder 12% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 30% (PK Thunder 2) Creates a slower, yet larger PK Thunder. Both the projectile and Ness do more damage and knockback. However, the distance Ness moves with PK Thunder 2 is significantly shorter, making this a high-risk, high-reward move.
Down special Default PSI Magnet 0% A purple energy field around him which allows him to absorb any energy-based projectile (like Samus' Charge Shot). It can be held in order to use it repeatedly. Heals 1.6× the damage Ness would have taken.
Custom 1 PSI Vacuum 10% Ness draws opponents in, releasing an explosion that damages nearby foes when the move is released. It cannot absorb projectiles.
Custom 2 Forward PSI Magnet 9% The magnet appears in front of him, just like Lucas's version. It damages an opponent inside the magnet when the move is released.
Final Smash PK Starstorm 8% per hit Summons stars to fall from the sky to annihilate his enemies. The comets descend in a straight line over Ness and can sweep the screen with directional inputs to the left and right.

On-screen appearance

  • Ness teleports on the screen using PSI Teleport. He then shakes the ash off of his body.
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Taunts

  • Up taunt: Turns to the screen and nods his head while saying "Okay".
  • Side taunt: Takes his bat out and points it in front of him.
  • Down taunt: Releases a wave of PSI from his finger.
Up taunt Side taunt Down taunt
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Idle poses

  • Looks around curiously.
  • Closes his eyes and places his fingers on his forehead, concentrating his PSI, and then points it forward.
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Crowd cheer

English Japanese
Cheer
Description Su-per Ness! Ness! Ness! Ness!
Pitch Group chant Group chant

Victory poses

A flourished remix directly from Brawl. It is a sped-up remix of a portion of the title theme from the original MOTHER for the Famicom.
  • Skips in place and then nods similar to his up taunt.
  • Looks to his sides quickly before facing the screen, putting his hand on the back of his head.
  • Swings his bat multiple times, then points it forward.
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In competitive play

Official Custom Moveset Project

Character Custom sets available
Ness (SSB4) Ness 1112 1121 1122 1311 1312
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Notable players

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Tier placement and history

During the early life of SSB4, players immediately noticed the buffs made to Ness. He was widely considered to be either a high, or even a top-tier character due to his amazing throw game and his fantastic KO power and damage output. However, overtime, many people have learned about Ness's bad matchups against many of the top tier characters in the game, including many ways to exploit his recovery despite the improvements made to it. Regardless, Ness's expectations have been strong, leading to great tournament representation and results, and securing the 13th position on the first official 4BR tier list. While his results slightly fell since the first tier list, as well as the release of Bayonetta, the significant buffs to Mewtwo and the increased representation of Mega Man having a strong impact on the metagame, he would drop slightly on the second tier list, placing at 16th.

Later on, Ness results would be very stagnant since many of his players had been significantly inactive than ever before in such a long time (Specifically after EVO 2016 to 2GGT: ZeRo Saga). Despite again gaining results on Winter 2016 and 2017, most noticeably FOW's 17th placement in 2GGT: ZeRo Saga and S1's 5th placement in B.E.A.S.T 7, it didn't compensate the loss of his stagnant results he had suffered from mid to late 2016. Some of his previously not so troublesome matchups such as Marth and Lucina would also gain a large spike in popularity, and prove to now be worrisome matchups for Ness. This resulted in a much larger tier drop to 24th on the third and current tier list, this drop being tied with Pac-Man for the largest between the second and third tier lists.

Currently, Ness' ranking on the tier list is a fair topic of debate, as recently, Ness has had commendable results as of late such as FOW placing 13th at 2GGC: Nairo Saga and 25th at 2GGC: Civil War respectively. While NAKAT placed 3rd at Smash Factor 6, 13th at EVO 2017, 17th at GameTyrant Expo 2017, 17th at 2GGC: FE Saga, and 33rd at GENESIS 4 while mostly using Ness. The Great Gonzales placed 5th at Royal Flush and 17th at Smash 'N' Splash 3 respectively. Most recently, a Japanese Ness player, Gackt, placed 17th at The Big House 7, claiming wins against ANTi, Locus, and Mistake although lost to Raito by 2-3. Many smashers claim that Ness should be ranked higher since he has these placings and has often achieved more impressive results compared to other high tier characters like Villager, Toon Link, Greninja, Mega Man, and Captain Falcon, while others claim that he should be lower on the tier list since other characters below him such as Donkey Kong, Luigi, and Olimar have equally if not, more commendable results than Ness does. His flaws such as his poor recovery have led some smashers to question whether Ness is solo viable in the current metagame. Some smashers even debated whether Ness or his fellow EarthBound representative, Lucas will claim superior from one another.

Trophies

Ness
Ntsc Hailing from Onett, a small town in Eagleland, this young boy's ordinary looks hide his psychic powers. Ness fought against the evil Giygas in Earthbound, and in Smash Bros. he unleashes some of the same PSI moves. Watch out for PK Thunder, a guided attack that can also launch Ness like a rocket!
Pal From Onett in Eageland comes this young lad. He may not look like much, but he has powerful psychic abilities, and they really come in handy in EarthBound. They come in handy in this game, too. Did you know you can control his PK Thunder bolt? Aim it at Ness himself to send him flying, absolutely clobbering anyone in his path!
SNES: EarthBound -- 06/1995
GB Advance: Mother 1+2 -- 2003 (JP)
Ness (Alt.)
Ntsc Ness may have psychic powers, but that doesn't mean he shies away from getting physical. His side smash packs a real punch if you hit enemies with the end of his bat, and it can even deflect projectiles! His up and down smashes also have a lot of range - Ness can land his strikes with ease!
Pal Ness may have psychic powers, but that doesn't mean he shies away from getting physical. His side smash packs a real punch if you hit enemies with the end of his bat, and it can even reflect projectiles! His up and down smashes have a lot of range, meaning when you play as Ness, it's always easy to land hits on your foes!
SNES: EarthBound -- 06/1995
GB Advance: Mother 1+2 -- 2003 (JP)
PK Starstorm
In EarthBound, this PSI ability belonged to Poo, the Crown Prince of Dalaam and one of Ness's friends. Ness must have learned it especially for Smash Bros.! The attack makes a shower of meteors fall onto the stage, damaging any foes it hits. While the attack's in progress, Ness is invincible and can adjust the meteors' trajectory.

In Event Matches

Solo Events

Co-op Events

Alternate costumes

Palette swap (SSB4)
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Trivia

  • Ness and Palutena are the only characters in SSB4 with different voice clips for custom moves; in Ness's case, he has a unique voice clip when using PK Freeze.
  • Ness's amiibo description on the North American amiibo website is based on his trophy description from Melee.
  • Ness's yo-yo in this game reads "SUPER NINTENDO 2014" and "MOTHER", in reference to his console of origin, SSB4's year of release, and his home series.
  • Ness's custom special PK Freeze is one of only three custom specials in the game that have a preview image featuring a non-silhouetted character besides the user of the attack (alongside Mega Man's Ice Slasher and Lucas's PK Freeze). This is likely due to the characters being frozen.
  • Ness and Jigglypuff are the only original 12 characters to be excluded from newcomer poster art.
  • One set of Ness's custom moves reference Lucas's moveset in Brawl (and as later included in Smash 4).
  • Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS is the only game where Ness and Captain Falcon do not have the same availability.