Ganondorf (SSBB)/Side special

This article is about the hitbox visualization in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. For the move itself, see Flame Choke.

Overview

Ganondorf using Flame Choke against Link in Brawl.

Ganondorf's side special in Brawl is Flame Choke. Ganondorf boosts forward with one dark magic-infused hand outstretched and grabs an opponent by the neck before dropping them to the ground. As it is a command grab, Flame Choke cannot be shielded. The grab comes out slowly and it has deceptively poor range, which can make it hard to land. If Ganondorf does grab the opponent however, it is fairly rewarding. The opponent is put into a tech situation where they cannot tech and when used on the ground, Ganondorf has the frame advantage against his opponent. Ganondorf has a +9 to +12 frame advantage against most characters, giving him guaranteed followups, including a guaranteed dash attack for a KO confirm against around 75% of the cast (and Ganondorf can mix this up with a down tilt or a forward tilt, especially if he predicts that the opponent will try and DI the dash attack). If Ganondorf cannot follow up or if he wants to go for a more powerful followup, he can tech chase the opponent where he can either land one of his stronger moves (such as down aerial or a smash attack) or he can Flame Choke again to reset the situation.

If used in the air, Ganondorf will forcefully slam the opponent down to the ground. This is not very useful on stage as it has considerably more ending lag than the grounded version, giving Ganondorf no guaranteed followups. If used offstage, unless there is a moving platform that prevents them from descending offstage, he and the opponent will plummet downwards and will result in both players being KOed. This tactic is called the Ganoncide. However, unlike in Smash 4, where this tactic will always result in victory for Ganondorf, in Brawl, using Ganoncide is unpredictable and can result in a win, a loss, or even Sudden Death.

Grabbox Data

Grounded

ID	Radius	Bone	Offset			G	A
0	5.0	0	0.0	8.0	4.5
1	1.0	0	0.0	8.0	4.2

ID	Damage	Angle		BK	KS	FKV	Bone	SDIx	FFx	T%	Type	Effect	Sound
1	4%		Forwards	100	10	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Kick

Aerial

ID	Radius	Bone	Offset			G	A
0	5.0	0	0.0	6.0	6.5
1	1.0	0	0.0	11.0	6.5

ID	Damage	Angle		BK	KS	FKV	Bone	SDIx	FFx	T%	Type	Effect	Sound
1	4%		Forwards	100	10	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Kick

Throw Data

Grounded

ID	Damage	Angle		BK	KS	FKV	Bone	SDIx	FFx	T%	Type	Effect	Sound
0	9%		Standard	60	90	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Explosion
1	4%		Forwards	100	10	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Kick

Aerial

ID	Damage	Angle		BK	KS	FKV	Bone	SDIx	FFx	T%	Type	Effect	Sound
0	12%		Standard	40	82	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Explosion
1	4%		Forwards	100	10	0	0	1.0x	None	0%			Kick

Timing

Grounded

Grab	16-30
Animation length	59

Grounded Throw

Super Armor	17-40
Throw Release	31
Animation length	60

Aerial

Grab	19-31
Animation length	59

Aerial throw (landing)

Throw Release	1
Animation length	40

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag time	Vulnerable	Armour	Grab	Throw point

Flame Choke followup list

As a note of reference:

Jab is a frame 8 option
Forward tilt, down tilt, dash attack and landing Wizard's Foot are frame 10 options
Down smash is a frame 15 option

Possible followups:	Characters
No guaranteed followups
Jab only
Down tilt, dash attack and landing Wizard's Foot
Jab, down tilt, dash attack and landing Wizard's Foot
Forward tilt, down tilt, dash attack and landing Wizard's Foot
Jab, forward tilt, down tilt, dash attack and landing Wizard's Foot
Jab, forward tilt, down tilt, dash attack, landing Wizard's Foot and down smash