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Interwiki

FYI. Miles (talk) 23:14, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

Also FE Wiki's url change. Miles (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

SmashWikia

Hey, everyone got their rights removed on there, including the inactive admins. So you might want to request your rights back on it. Omega Tyrant 16:16, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

helps

id like to know what i could do to help out around here, i feel pretty useless--kyle.b talk (contributions) 15:27, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

You can always go to random pages and see if there are minor fixes that need to be make (like spelling or grammar). Toomai Glittershine The Incomprehensible 15:40, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

i was thinking that i could add sections of manual descriptions, it seems like a good idea (i suck at grammer)--kyle.b talk (contributions) 15:44, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Generally, if you think it's a good idea, then you don't have to ask someone if it's a good idea. Toomai Glittershine Da Bomb 15:45, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

so yes?--kyle.b talk (contributions) 15:47, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Sorry Kyle. I know you wanted to help contribute to the wiki with the manual descriptions,but I wanted to help,and that resulted in me finishing the rest of the work. Sorry. :( Forbidden7 (talk) 21:07, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Oh by the way,remember to only add a blue link for brawl if there isn't one on top (bad example:if there is already a blue link to the article on brawl on a smasherbeta and brawl is mentioned below,don't add a blue link for the one on the bottom,because there is already one on the smasherbeta)Forbidden7 17:24, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

100!!!!

tell me the 100th round of SA is super special,i just can't wait (>^.^)> Lucas-IV- PKThunder PK Rocket! 09:21, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Here's an idea:How about for SA #100,you make the all the playable characters of Smash 64 vs all the characters of Melee,vs all the playable characters in Brawl! Forbidden7 (talk) 10:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

I already have 80% of round 100 planned out, and there's no room for anything that drastic. Toomai Glittershine The Celeritous 10:07, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Well, what will the other 20% be? --24.11.24.139 13:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Do you want to ruin it? It's a surprise, just wait and see. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 14:08, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Silly me. :P --24.11.24.139 07:46, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

Username

I wnat to change my name. i'll be on everyday at 11 amLuke5176 (talk) 10:57, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

It's not very helpful for a name change request to be followed up by a piece of useless information. I would need to know what username you want. Toomai Glittershine The Honcho 11:48, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Can it be Lucario4468.197.115.28 15:36, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Assistance

I have the greatest enthusiasm for this mission. My confidence in this wiki's ability to succeed is great. I do however have one trivial matter that I do hope I can get your assistance with. You seem a level-headed, intelligent person with much power in regards to this wiki. I have noticed that sound files, while talked about to great length in many articles, are not included in the wiki itself so far as I have seen. I can obtain a wide variety of MP3 files from many sources that can be used here if such a thing is allowed. I only wish to be useful, which thanks to the high quality and restless hard work of the many contributers here, is difficult. If I may offer my service in this manner, all I would need is a way to upload audio files onto the wiki. MtnDewholic (aka "Dewie") 16:48, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I don't really think you're allowed to add audio files,seeing as no one has. Forbidden7 17:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

For the most part,that is. Forbidden7 17:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I think having sounds and voice clips is okay; we don't have a rule against it in any case (at one point we had the noise of a ping uploaded which was never ported over when the move happened). Full music clips might be in a grey area in terms of being useful; there are a bunch of valid Youtube videos of such musics and the files would be pretty big.

In terms of actually uploading MP3 files - the wiki currently will only accept .ogg files, but I'm sure there's some option to enable MP3 uploads I'd have to find. You would use Special:Upload (even though it's titled "Upload image"). Toomai Glittershine The Eggster 18:09, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was wondering about that. I raised the issue because I found a page that had a bunch of links to a plethora of youtube videos, which I saw as a great inconvenience when I have seen media playing bits on wikis (particularly Wikipedia). I was just wondering if such a thing were possible here. I can convert the media files into just about any format, though ".ogg" is nothing I have hear of before. MtnDewholic (aka "Dewie") 20:25, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Same here.I've heard of wma and MIDI,but not ogg. Then again,maybe I have. Forbidden7 20:33, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

That sounds like a paradox. I'll do a test upload with a sound file of, say, Meta Knight's Dreamland Theme Rock Remix in .ogg format. MtnDewholic (aka "Dewie") 20:37, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

The Images on Brandondorf9999's talkpage

What do I do with them since they're now reverted back to their normal versions? --24.11.24.139 11:17, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Leave them there. It's okay.--PSIWolf 11:19, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

And for that i looked up policies and they are rules. I found "Policies" on the dictonaray and it means rules. Thats why i found them on that book. Maybe you should learn that and it had to be moved earlier too because its the same as rules.--Brandondorf (talk) 15:35, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Your move from "Rules" to "Polices" was wrong because the section in the game is called "Rules". That should be obvious to anyone. English isn't your first language, is it? Toomai Glittershine The Victorious 16:21, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

We need your wisdom

On IRC. Forbidden7 21:07, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Some Message Box Error

I just got a new message today. I opened it, and replied, then refreshed all my pages so that they wouldn't have the message box. But Forum: Browser Poll still had the message box. I tried everything and it's still staying. And when I go to edit it, it's as if there was no message box there. What's wrong? --107.5.57.137 07:40, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Does 'everything' include clearing your cache? – Smiddle_T 07:46, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

How do you do that? --107.5.57.137 07:51, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Depends on the browser. Which one have you got? – Smiddle_T 09:16, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Nevermind, saw that you put Chrome on the Browser Poll *bro fist*. Anyway, you press Ctrl-Shift-Del, then you make sure that "clear cache" is the only box checked. Then select "since the beginning" as the time. Finally, hit "Clear web information". One downside with Chrome is the relatively complicated way of clearing the cache. (Not sure exactly what all the buttons are called in English, as I'm not using that myself. Half-guessing.) – Smiddle_T 09:20, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks, it worked. :D --107.5.57.137 09:41, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

You're welcome! – Smiddle_T 12:03, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Matchup Rows

I am thinking they should be like the ones in a chart i made. http://www.ssbwiki.com/User:Zeldasmash/Crusade_Matchup_Chart Zeldasmash (talk) 23:20, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

No offense, but I strained my eyes looking at them. MegaTron1XD 23:26, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

lol. I thought it would look cool but.. Zeldasmash (talk) 23:32, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Tried that once, got backlash. Simple is better. Toomai Glittershine The Eggster 09:02, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

origins

i can upload some PK attacks' origins, but since i only play Mother 3 and lucas can't do PK Fire/thunder and some more stuffs, Kumatora is the one doing the attack. so what do you think? Lucas-IV- Try to Talk 05:18, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

I'll save you the trouble by bringing images over from WikiBound. Miles (talk) 10:21, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Miles, Do you think gifs would be better? It seems like some attacks are better viewed when animated rather than a still image. Unknown the Hedgehog 12:47, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

True, but animations is hard to get and had to makeLucas-IV- Try to Talk 12:50, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

I've made one for here (Franklin Badge), all I would have to do is re-download EarthBound. But lets move the discussion to my talk page. Unknown the Hedgehog 12:57, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Forbidden7

check his userpage,so,ething's weird, check it out, hereLucas-IV- Try to Talk 03:45, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

What's weird about it? Forbidden7 09:16, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

The stuff which is normally at the right of the page (the box with Recent Changes and stuff) is at the bottom when viewing your userpage.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 09:18, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

That isn't toomai's problem,it's mine and I kinda like it that way. Forbidden7 09:20, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

You should fix it anyway. It's disruptive to users that are viewing the page. Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 11:48, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

♪Don't know how...♪ Forbidden7 12:04, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

IRC

Can you log on? We require your help. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 00:12, 19 July 2011 (EDT)

spoilers

you know, in other wikis they have this warning for readers because off spoilers, i think we need it too>:D Lucas-IV-PK Love 14:39, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

I see no real use for it on this Wiki. Omega Tyrant 14:45, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

To elaborate, the characters you unlock are practically known by everyone, so there's no point in putting a spoiler alert for them. For Subspace Emissary, it too has its content widely known at this point, and there isn't much being spoiled there anyway. Omega Tyrant 14:49, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

<:( oh ok>:D Lucas-IV-PK Love 14:53, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Blurry Horizon

Not really sure if troll, brandondorf or spambot. He wants an infinite ban. You should probably give it to him T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 22:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

Well that went fast.T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 22:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

Person was a vandal/spam account, and next time, either post on the admin noticeboard, or notify an admin who's online. Omega Tyrant 22:55, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

SEND BACK...

DOH!!! SmashPeter (talk) 14:43, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Please stop making these kinds of comments. It's not on the page the original conversaion was on, so there's no context, and just saying "doh" is not a useful comment in any case. Toomai Glittershine The Incomprehensible 14:45, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Are you on MarioWiki?

There's a user with the name "Toomai" who never did anything. Just wondering. Forbidden7File:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER!!!!! 20:17, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Yeah I have a MarioWiki account. Pretty much never use it though. Toomai Glittershine The Different 21:12, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

A renaming request

Could I have my name changed to BlindColours please? I like it better. Forbidden7File:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER!!!!! 23:42, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Well? Sorry if that sounds rude. Forbidden7File:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER!!!!! 09:24, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Was waiting to see if you were going to remove/add the space again. Toomai Glittershine The Steppin' 11:48, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

XD But seriously, can you? Forbidden7File:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER!!!!! 11:56, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

This would be my sig →BlindcololoursFile:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER!Forbidden7File:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER! 13:17, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I see you had a lot to do. BlindcoloursFile:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER 17:05, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

It was all automatic. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 17:06, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Oh, I see. Still, thank you! BlindcoloursFile:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER 17:17, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Uh...

My archives are still in the "F" section...>_> BlindcoloursOVER 2000(Edits)!!!! 00:40, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

IRC

Hi Toomai. Can you please come on to IRC soon? There are a few matters I would like to discuss with you privately. Mr. Anon (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

Users who just vote on the Smash Arena

Do you agree we should start giving blocks to users who ignored being asked to contribute to other areas of the Wiki other than the Smash Arena and their userpage? I noticed some users aren't getting the message, and I'm thinking of handing a two week block to the violators (thus preventing them from voting on a round of Smash Arena). Then, if they continue to not try contributing elsewhere and just keep only editing the Smash Arena/their userpage, give them subsequent blocks of increasing length. Omega Tyrant 18:28, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Blocking people for not doing anything outside Smash Arena I think is too much. Yes, it's not the focus of the wiki, but maybe the user in question is only interested in reading the wiki/using it as a resource, and in such cases you can't make them contribute.

Those that only edit their userspace are a bit different though in my opinion, since unlike SA, it requires about as much effort as helping out the wiki would. In such cases I think protection of the user pages would be better than a block, so they could then edit constructively while still being punished. Toomai Glittershine The Frivolous 22:56, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

That's sensible, but the way I was looking at it, I was seeing voting in the Smash Arena as a privilege to those who contribute, and as written in SW:NOT, users are not to just vote in the Smash Arena. As such, if no consequences are to be met with a user just voting in the Smash Arena, then what's the point of having it written in a policy that users are not to do that? If blocking is too much, perhaps we instead not allow them to vote in the Smash Arena until they start trying to make some sort effort to contribute?

For userpages, I am in agreement. Omega Tyrant 23:40, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Why not giving warning or simply talk to the user themself? make them realize first.>_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 03:22, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

I have given warnings first, and will continue to do so. Some users however, just flat out ignore them. Omega Tyrant

If there was a way to hide the Smash Arena from recent changes, would it matter then? Blocking is way too much but I feel that people should be allowed to edit only the Smash Arena if that is what they want. You can't force them to edit and the only way to stop them from only editing the Smash Arena with making it fair would be to remove the Smash Arena. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:36, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

I dont think that's the problem, SD...>_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 03:40, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Would you like to brawl me? My FC is 2579-7589-1533. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:33, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

You know that your FC is on your talk page right? ..... Smash454 My life for Aiur! 14:53, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

He can't, remember? Blindcolours Game Boy 20:56, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Prepare yourself. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:23, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Did you read the above conversation? Blindcolours Game Boy 19:01, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Um I Brawled Toomai yesterday, and I wanted to Brawl him again today. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

I thought he couldn't.... Blindcolours Game Boy 19:57, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

At my current residence I can, but at university last semester I couldn't, and it's unknown whether I can next semester. Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 20:10, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

So..yes? Blindcolours Game Boy 20:12, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Bureaucrat rights

Did you notice you were promoted to a bureaucrat in [www.banjokazooie.wikia.com/wiki/User:Toomai Banjo Kazooie wiki] by Ghostytreat earlier?--BrandondorfFile:Lemsdadhead (SSBB).png 18:53, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

This is not the place to discuss this. Blindcolours Game Boy 19:00, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Its ok for to discuss what he notices.--BrandondorfFile:Lemsdadhead (SSBB).png 09:43, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Of course I noticed, I don't exactly not visit there. Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 20:10, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Yes because he decided to let you change rights on the wiki.--BrandondorfFile:Lemsdadhead (SSBB).png 09:43, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Almost every wiki does that, and stop posting this stuff. Blindcolours Game Boy 09:45, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Blindcolours Game Boy 19:56, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Well? Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 14:40, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Sockpuppet

I think PrincessCrystalRose is a sockpuppet of CrystalRoseTheHedgehog123, because their names are similar.Blindcolours Game Boy 17:19, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Unable to request adminship

Toomai, I am unable to request adminship. In my past attempts to do so, it does not create a red link, so I cannot follow step 2. SmashPeter (talk) 12:23, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

You were doing it wrong, but it doesn't matter as you currently can not request adminship, as you have been blocked in the past 4 months. Omega Tyrant 12:31, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

EVEN THOUGH I CURRENTLY AM NOT BLOCKED?! WHAT'S HAPPENING?! WHAT'S HAPPENING?! SmashPeter (talk) 14:52, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

A potential admin candidate shouldn't be getting blocked to begin with, especially for a policy violation. And stop posting in all caps. Such behavior on talk pages will only hurt you in any possible adminship requests in the future when you become eligible. Omega Tyrant 14:58, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

By the way, if you think the waiting 4 months after being banned rule should be removed, post on the request for adminship talk page and argue it there, not here. Omega Tyrant 15:01, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Mainspace vs. ____space

Is it a violation for users to have extremely less mainspace edits than userspace edits in a conisiberably large amount of time? Pikmin Brawler Go Steve the Pikmin! 20:06, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Technically no, but it is rather discouraged to spend all your time in userspace, and extreme cases may cause said user's userspace to be locked until they contribute to the mainspace. Toomai Glittershine The Honcho 21:17, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, there isn't any hard rule about how much of your edits are userspace, but you are supposed to have a large amount of your edits going to productive mainspace. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:26, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

I asked, because I saw the contributions for a particular user, and out of a time span of a few months, only had 4 mainspace edits, and other edits that included forum, smash arena, etc. Would this be considered an extreme case? Pikmin Brawler Go Steve the Pikmin! 21:36, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, that would be considered an extreme case. I remember Doc King and Zeldasmash got warned and nearly blocked because they focused too much on userspace. Which user are you talking about? Mr. Anon (talk) 21:46, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

I try to keep my edits balanced. ..... lolz Airbore 21:48, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Some edit counts for mainspace vs other spaces shouldn't really count, they only count the actual edit being saved as 1, there is no count for the quality of the edit, someone could've revamped 4 pages totally in a new effective way and added tons of new information and only did multiple minor edits to userspace or user talk pages and the results would make it seem like they are an "ineffective user" whereas they might not be.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 21:50, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

@Mr.A: The user is StoneSteal, and he made 4 edits to main, and has only recently been adding to userspace. his 4 edits are made only in july; All other contribs are made to other namespace. Pikmin Brawler Go Steve the Pikmin! 21:57, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Generally, I hand out the protections when a user shows next to no effort at contributing to the Wiki outside their userspace and the Smash Arena. It is possible for a user to be productive to the Wiki and have a low mainspace edit count, whether it is through high quality edits like Dodo pointed out, or through contributions to other areas such as taking a constructive part in talk page discussions. With that said, StoneSteal has not done those, and as such, will be warned.

Also Mr. Anon, while Zeldasmash got blocked for excessive userspace editing, Doc King didn't get in trouble for userspace editing, but for being a disruptive user that frequently violated policies. Omega Tyrant 03:44, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Eh, just in cases, you should probably know why lately I dont do much mainspace edits. It's because making mainspace edits will be more harder an complicated. I'm on a busy schol year and not allowed to use laptop, so i'm using my hand phone so it is harder to type some stuff >_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 06:19, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Rollback

Thank you so much. :) Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 19:47, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

The SmasherBeta

As you Americans are aware, the users of this wiki were all American until I joined, and now you have a Brit on this site. In the UK, we don't have states, instead, we have counties. This will mean that the smasherbeta will now require different versions. SmashPeter (talk) 09:14, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

It wasn't all Americans in the first place, and different versions aren't needed, you patriot. Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 09:16, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

I am Dutch. Do you ever read other users Smasherbeta's?--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 09:19, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

You could just put "London" as your location and "Britian" as your country. Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 09:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Do you realise how condescending you sound? There have been plenty of other non US users before you came, and there will continue to be more after you came. This Wiki will not change things just because you demand it.

Also, the bureaucrat you're addressing with "you Americans" is Canadian you ass. Omega Tyrant 10:00, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm not sure whether to take you seriously or not. There is nothing in {{Smasherbeta}} that is unique to the US - there's no mention of states, or zip codes, or anything like that. Yes, the documentation says the location field is to be used for "state/province", but I feel that only a rather dumb Brit wouldn't be able to figure out what that means. Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 16:56, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

No forum link on the sidebar

I just noticed there is no link to the forums on the Wiki sidebar. Shouldn't it be there? Omega Tyrant 18:58, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Maybe it was a result of the server being down. Probably not, though. Blindcolours Stop smiling, it makes me happy. 19:02, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

The entire sidebar is in the default configuration instead of the designated one. Server error might be the cause. Toomai Glittershine Le Grand Fromage 19:53, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Permission to use your images and data

May I use the data and pictures used in your documentation projects for use in another wiki called the Shoryuken Wiki? It's a wiki dedicated largely to competitive fighting game strategy, and your findings can be very useful in their SSBB guide. T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 09:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

As long as you give proper credit I don't see why not. Toomai Glittershine Da Bomb 19:03, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Okay, thanks! T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 21:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

The Smash Arena - Black Hole Glitch Image

Hey. The current image you put for the Black Hole Glitch in The Smash Arena looks like this;

I've just uploaded a better image of it, namely in the ultranova form, which is below.

Can I change the image to this one? ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 08:18, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

MK mus and tier list rank

Since he's soon to be banned in all Unity tournaments, what are we to do about his mu and tier lists? Do we wait for BBR to remove everything, or do we ignore the mu in averages for others? MegaTron1XD 10:07, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

The ruleset, the tier list, and the matchup table are all independent of each other. I don't think we should change any one if another gets altered. Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 11:59, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Actually, many characters are high/low tier based on how well they do against the highest tiered characters. In addition, several stages have been banned based on how broken Meta Knight can be. I say we wait until Meta Knight is actually banned, however.