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'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') returns as a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. Ness was officially confirmed on October 3rd, 2014, alongside {{SSB4|Falco}} and {{SSB4|Wario}}, coinciding with the Western release of [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]. As in every previous ''Smash Bros.'' installation, Ness is voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, who has now recorded new voice clips for both versions of the game. | '''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') returns as a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. Ness was officially confirmed on October 3rd, 2014, alongside {{SSB4|Falco}} and {{SSB4|Wario}}, coinciding with the Western release of [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]. As in every previous ''Smash Bros.'' installation, Ness is voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, who has now recorded new voice clips for both versions of the game. | ||
Ness currently ranks 28th out of 55 characters on the [[tier list]] (tied with {{SSB4|Lucas}}), placing both him and Lucas as the lowest C tier characters and the lowest high tier characters. This is a vast improvement from his 26th out of 38 in ''Brawl'', and his best placement compared to previous ''Smash Bros.'' games. Ness no longer suffers from having 10 extra [[grab release]] frames, which was a huge detriment to his survival. Besides that, Ness possesses arguably the best grab game among the entire cast (competing with {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}'s), with his forward and up throws leaving opponents in very unfavorable positions, his down throw being a great combo starter and his back throw being the most powerful throw in the game, on top of being difficult to DI properly. Other notable strengths include an effective [[projectile]] game with [[PK Fire]] and [[PK Thunder]], a formidable air game courtesy of his powerful aerials, and a versatile combo game thanks to his throws and aerials. Despite being a middleweight, he also has high raw KO power and high damage output, a prime example being his aerials, forward smash, PK Flash and PK Thunder 2. Finally, due to the strengths above, Ness possesses very useful options to cover getups from a ledge or on the ground. | Ness currently ranks 28th out of 55 characters on the [[tier list]] (tied with {{SSB4|Lucas}}), placing both him and Lucas as the lowest C tier characters and the lowest high tier characters. This is a vast improvement from his 26th out of 38 in ''Brawl'', and his best placement compared to previous ''Smash Bros.'' games. Ness no longer suffers from having 10 extra [[grab release]] frames, which was a huge detriment to his survival. Besides that, Ness possesses arguably the best grab game among the entire cast (competing with {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}'s), with his forward and up throws leaving opponents in very unfavorable positions, his down throw being a great combo starter at lower percentages and his back throw being the most powerful throw in the game, on top of being difficult to DI properly. Other notable strengths include an effective [[projectile]] game with [[PK Fire]] and [[PK Thunder]], a formidable air game courtesy of his powerful aerials, and a versatile combo game thanks to his throws and aerials. Despite being a middleweight, he also has high raw KO power and high damage output, a prime example being his aerials, forward smash, PK Flash and PK Thunder 2. Finally, due to the strengths above, Ness possesses very useful options to cover getups from a ledge or on the ground. | ||
However, Ness has rather sub-par mobility and range, which often forces him to be methodical with his approaches, or play defensively in order to gain the lead, which can leave him at a disadvantage against characters with greater range on their attacks such as Cloud. His KO power, while consistent, is relegated to only his back throw and his up-air, as most of his powerful attacks are hard to land in the neutral game. Lastly and the most problematic is his recovery. Despite being greatly improved, PK Thunder remains quite gimpable as the lightning bolt can clang with other attacks, while opponents can forcibly push Ness out of the way or even take a hit from the lightning bolt, making his recovery fail. | However, Ness has rather sub-par mobility and range, which often forces him to be methodical with his approaches, or play defensively in order to gain the lead, which can leave him at a disadvantage against characters with greater range on their attacks such as Cloud. His KO power, while consistent, is relegated to only his back throw and his up-air, as most of his powerful attacks are hard to land in the neutral game. Lastly and the most problematic is his recovery. Despite being greatly improved, PK Thunder remains quite gimpable as the lightning bolt can clang with other attacks, while opponents can forcibly push Ness out of the way or even take a hit from the lightning bolt, making his recovery fail. |
Revision as of 10:37, April 23, 2018
Ness in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Universe | EarthBound |
Other playable appearances | in SSB in Melee in Brawl |
Availability | Unlockable (3DS) Starter (Wii U) |
Final Smash | PK Starstorm |
Tier | C (28) |
Ness (ネス, Ness) returns as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4. Ness was officially confirmed on October 3rd, 2014, alongside Falco and Wario, coinciding with the Western release of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. As in every previous Smash Bros. installation, Ness is voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, who has now recorded new voice clips for both versions of the game.
Ness currently ranks 28th out of 55 characters on the tier list (tied with Lucas), placing both him and Lucas as the lowest C tier characters and the lowest high tier characters. This is a vast improvement from his 26th out of 38 in Brawl, and his best placement compared to previous Smash Bros. games. Ness no longer suffers from having 10 extra grab release frames, which was a huge detriment to his survival. Besides that, Ness possesses arguably the best grab game among the entire cast (competing with Mewtwo's), with his forward and up throws leaving opponents in very unfavorable positions, his down throw being a great combo starter at lower percentages and his back throw being the most powerful throw in the game, on top of being difficult to DI properly. Other notable strengths include an effective projectile game with PK Fire and PK Thunder, a formidable air game courtesy of his powerful aerials, and a versatile combo game thanks to his throws and aerials. Despite being a middleweight, he also has high raw KO power and high damage output, a prime example being his aerials, forward smash, PK Flash and PK Thunder 2. Finally, due to the strengths above, Ness possesses very useful options to cover getups from a ledge or on the ground.
However, Ness has rather sub-par mobility and range, which often forces him to be methodical with his approaches, or play defensively in order to gain the lead, which can leave him at a disadvantage against characters with greater range on their attacks such as Cloud. His KO power, while consistent, is relegated to only his back throw and his up-air, as most of his powerful attacks are hard to land in the neutral game. Lastly and the most problematic is his recovery. Despite being greatly improved, PK Thunder remains quite gimpable as the lightning bolt can clang with other attacks, while opponents can forcibly push Ness out of the way or even take a hit from the lightning bolt, making his recovery fail.
Currently, Ness's tier placement is debatable. While Ness has poor matchups against several characters that were ranked higher than him, particularly Cloud, Rosalina & Luma, Marth, and Corrin, Ness has achieved good representation and noticeable top players such as FOW, S1, The Great Gonzales, Gackt, and NAKAT. Ness also achieved above average results and wins thanks to these said top players most notably FOW placing 13th at 2GGC: Nairo Saga, The Great Gonzales placing 5th at Royal Flush, S1 placing 5th at B.E.A.S.T 7 and 7th at Syndicate 2017, NAKAT placing 13th at EVO 2017 while mostly going Ness, and most recently, Gackt placing 17th at The Big House 7. From this, while some smashers generally argued that he should be ranked slightly lower due to his poor matchups from the higher ranked characters, other smashers argued that he should be ranked higher due to his favorable representation, results, and wins.
How to unlock
Complete one of the following:
- Play 10 VS Matches.
- Clear Classic Mode on any difficulty.
After completing one of the two methods, Ness must then be defeated on Magicant.
In Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, Ness is playable from the start.
Attributes
Ness is an unusual blend of character archetypes, being a short, projectile-heavy character with a lot of versatility with his moves. Ness's weight is average and his falling speed is rather slow, giving him no disadvantage with weight alone. His walking speed is slow while his dashing speed and air speed are both sub-par, but his air acceleration is very high.
Ness possesses three projectiles: PK Flash, PK Fire, and PK Thunder. PK Flash can be used as an extremely powerful punishing or edge-guarding option, dealing huge knockback which can KO even Bowser, the heaviest character, under 70%. PK Fire possesses a good amount of range and holds opponents in it when it hits them (due to being impossible to SDI out of), granting Ness guaranteed follow-ups (such as grab, an additional PK Fire, or a forward smash to finish the opponent) as long as he acts quickly enough. Also, it can be used off-stage against characters with more linear recoveries to combo into down air. PK Thunder is one of the more unique projectiles in the game. When used, the player will lose control of Ness and instead take control of a large thunder ball for a few seconds. PK Thunder can essentially be used to knock opponents towards Ness for follow ups, to mindgame opponents into a PK Thunder 2 trap to finish them, to edgeguard, and to juggle opponents. The knockback it provides can also hit an opponent over the upper blast line (especially light and floaty characters), allowing it to be used as a situational KO move as well. His down special move, PSI Magnet, provides a psychic shield that can heal him when hit with an energy based attack, making it extremely effective against characters with slower projectiles such as Samus or the Mii Gunner. PSI Magnet has fast start-up and end-lag, this allows Ness to cancel his double jump momentum and allows him to reverse himself mid-air more reliably, making it effective for avoiding vertical attacks such as Mario's up smash when Ness is on the air.
Ness's biggest strength is found in his superb aerial game. Most of Ness's aerial moves can be used to either space, combo, or KO. All aerials, excluding down aerial, are capable of auto-canceling out of a short hop. His neutral aerial possesses very little startup and ending lag, and hits on both sides of Ness, making it a useful out of shield option. His forward aerial has quick startup, a disjointed hitbox, and traps opponents, essentially allowing it to chain into either itself or another move. It is a powerful spacing tool and is helpful in approaching opponents. His up aerial, one of the strongest in the game, can be used to combo at lower percents and KO reliably at higher percents. It possesses a large hitbox and little lag, making it low risk, high reward. His back aerial is another reliable KO move that possesses low lag. His down aerial can occasionally be useful in edgeguarding, although it has significant startup in comparison to his other aerials. Down aerial has a large autocancel window, giving Ness the ability to decrease the length of his shorthop, as Ness extends his hurtbox by using the move. Ness can use this property to Tomahawk much more effectively, buffer landing options, mix up his platform movement, and occasionally avoid techchase situations. Thanks to his floatiness, Ness can perform a neutral aerial or up aerial after a short hop air dodge, allowing him to jump through moves with invincibility and whiff punish.
While Ness's aerials make him a formidable fighter at close quarters, he can struggle to pressure from afar. His dash attack has an exceptionally long range and is a decent approach, but leaves him vulnerable to landing aerials and is only safe if properly spaced. PK Fire covers a lot of ground and can be used to perform a PK Jump, a technique that allows Ness to approach or retreat by inputting the move 1 frame after double jumping. If Ness buffers an airdodge after double jumping, he can increase the height of his double. If Ness uses PSI Magnet then PK Thunder by the ledge, he will snap immediately, rather than stalling as he would normally. By combining these two traits togther, Ness can often recover without having to use PK Thunder to travel, alleviating one of his biggest weaknesses.
Ness's grab game is also very potent. His standing grab has slightly below average range and is fast. His pivot grab is surprisingly disjointed and his dash grab gives him a substantial speed boost. As mentioned earlier, Ness can trap opponents with PK Fire or PK Jump in order to set up for a grab. Ness possesses one of the fastest pummels in the game, allowing him to deal a decent amount of damage before throwing. His down throw neatly sets up for aerial attacks, leading into a forward air chain at lower percents or an up air at higher percents. Ness's forward throw has very high base knockback and can set up edgeguards. Up throw can be used to play situational mindgames with PK Thunder. Ness's infamous back throw is the strongest throw in the game; while it has very low base knockback, it has extremely high knockback scaling and is often regarded as his most effective and commonly used KO option.
Ness is far from perfect, however. He possesses below average speed in both the ground and the air, making it hard for him to chase most opponents. His ground game is also generally weak as he possesses short-ranged tilt attacks. His up and down smashes are also somewhat situational. While his up smash can be used as an out of shield option and his down smash as a useful edgeguarding option to two-frame opponents, both KO considerably later than his other KO options in a neutral situation, and his forward smash, while extremely powerful, possesses both high startup and ending lag, making it easily punishable if it misses. Ness's biggest flaw, however, is his recovery. While there have been various buffs to his recovery that make it much more reliable and viable than in previous Smash games, it is still easy to gimp if Ness is not careful enough with his double jump offstage. Characters with multiple jumps, such as Jigglypuff, Kirby and Meta Knight, with counters, such as most of the Fire Emblem characters, or with moves that reflect or absorb, such as Rosalina, Villager, and Pit can force Ness into disadvantage when offstage.
Custom moves can give Ness great advantages and brand new options. PK Freeze can freeze opponents, allowing free follow-ups, especially with PK Fire. PK Fire Burst has more range and power and always goes straight, making it a spacing tool rather than a combo tool. Lasting PK Thunder goes right through opponents and moves slower, allowing for better control. Recovery with PK Thunder 2 is also longer, significantly improving Ness' offstage survivability. Rolling PK Thunder travels much slower but is much stronger. While the recovery with PK Thunder 2 is mediocre due to the drastically decreased distance of it, the move is also significantly stronger, which allows it to KO even earlier than normal PK Thunder 2. Forward PSI Magnet is the same, but has a semi-spike hitbox in front of Ness, functioning similar to Fox's Reflector. Finally, if the opponent has no energy projectiles, PSI Vacuum is the optimal choice, as it draws opponents in and is the strongest of Ness's down special moves damage-wise.
Overall, Ness is viewed as a viable character in tournament play, due to his good combo game and extremely potent kill options. Despite this, he is believed to have a somewhat volatile matchup spread; he is especially vulnerable to characters that can abuse his poor mobility and low range to zone him out. Characters such as Rosalina and Luma, Marth, and Corrin are seen as especially troublesome matchups for Ness.
Changes from Brawl
Ness has been heavily buffed in the transition from Brawl to SSB4. His 10 extra frame grab-release animation, which was one of his most detrimental flaws, has been removed, and many of the other flaws he had have been addressed. Ness also greatly benefits from the general changes of SSB4, as the new edge-trumping mechanic makes his recovery much harder to gimp, and the changes to hitstun canceling allows him to combo with his moves much more efficiently. Overall, Ness is significantly better than he ever was in previous Super Smash Bros. games and he has also seen solid tournament representation and greatly improved results due to his vast improvement.
Aesthetics
- Ness has a brighter color palette, and has lost the blushes on his cheeks and the purple hue in his eyes. He is also slightly taller and thinner, with a smaller and more proportionate head, and a smaller backpack. He also lacks the partial yellow stripe that he had at the bottom of his shirt.
- Ness is more expressive.
Attributes
- Ness walks faster (0.86 → 0.8635).
- Ness dashes faster (1.39 → 1.46265).
- Ness no longer has an extra 10 frames of lag from being grab-released, bringing him in line with everyone else, and making him significantly less vulnerable to grab release follow-ups.
- All of Ness's electric attacks except for his specials are now a normal effect except for his back aerial's sweetspot, as it is actually a magic effect. They use a graphic effect similar to Lucas's attacks (forward aerial, up smash, etc.) instead of using the same graphic effect as his double jump.
- The changes in shieldstun makes some of his attacks slightly less safe on shield compared to the cast.
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack deals 1% less damage (9% → 8%).
- Dash attack now launches in front of Ness (80°) instead of behind him (100°), making followups easier.
- The first hit of dash attack no longer deals consistent damage (5% → 4%/7%/3%). Dash attack also has more intense lighting effects.
- The second hit of dash attack deals less damage (4% → 2%).
- Forward tilt deals less damage (11% (all) → 9% (unangled)/10% (angled)). It also has an altered animation, increasing its endlag.
- Up tilt now involves Ness releasing a burst of magic from his hands, increasing its vertical reach.
- Up tilt has slightly higher startup (frame 5 → 7) and its old hitbox is now a sourspot that deals 2% less damage.
- Up tilt's animation is more similar to that of Smash 64, and its sweetspot now has a magic sound effect instead of a punching sound effect.
- Down tilt now has a sourspot at the end of Ness's foot that deals less damage (4% → 2%).
- Forward smash deals drastically more knockback (50 base/62 scaling → 70/67), going from a forward smash of below average power in Brawl to one of the most powerful forward smashes in Smash 4. Its reflector now has a speed and power multiplier, drastically improving its punishing utility.
- One of forward smash's tipper hitboxes has been completely removed, so that its maximum damage potential when uncharged has been lowered (24% → 22%), and its reflector now has a limit, where if he tries to reflect a projectile that is too strong to reflect, Ness will experience about 300 frames (5 seconds) of ending lag.
- Yo-yo smashes (up smash and down smash) now have increased damage when charged and deal higher knockback.
- Yo-yo smashes are charged while still in Ness's hand, removing their pre-charge hitboxes.
- Yo-yo is colored green instead of yellow.
- Up smash now has a small hitbox behind Ness that comes out on frame 6. While this new hitbox is considered a sourspot, dealing less damage and knockback, it is a buff as it puts out a hitbox earlier and covers his back during startup, strengthening the up smash's use as an out of shield option.
- Down smash now semi-spikes opponents instead of sending them diagonally, greatly improving its edgeguarding ability.
Aerial attacks
- Neutral aerial has a shorter duration.
- Forward, back, and up aerials have increased landing lag (12 frames (all) → 20 (forward)/17 (back)/14 (up)).
- Forward aerial's looping hits now clink significantly better, and can now chain into each other, improving Ness's comboing and damage-racking capabilities.
- Forward aerial deals 4% less damage (11% → 7%).
- Down aerial now has an extra spin in its animation, with Ness facing at a different orientation as he kicks downward with his toes instead of the stamp of his foot; the new special effect at his toes gives its hitbox more vertical range, along with having its sourspot deal slightly more damage (9% → 10%).
- Down aerial's clean and late hits have smaller hitboxes (6.54u/6.54u (clean/late) → 3.9u/6u), a shorter duration (4 frames → 2 (clean), 5 frames → 4 (late)), and have drastically decreased base knockback (90/90 (clean/late) → 20/30), with both hits now being incapable of KOing at realistic percentages. Down aerial also autocancels significantly later (frame 29 → 50). As a result, the meteor smash is much harder to hit with, and the move is now generally inferior to his other aerials.
- Down aerial uses the magic sound effect on hit instead of a punch sound effect in prior games.
Throws/other attacks
- Pivot grab's range is now large and disjointed.
- Pivot grab comes out slower.
- Pummel is faster.
- Up throw's ending lag has been significantly decreased.
- The changes to hitstun canceling significantly benefits down throw, as he can now use it to set up into his aerials much more effectively when combined with its lowered damage output (9% → 7%).
- Down throw has less fire graphics.
Special moves
- PK Flash travels faster. It travels even faster and gains even more distance if directed behind Ness. Turning around before using this move might prove useful, depending on prediction.
- PK Flash is now a much darker green.
- PK Fire travels slightly farther.
- PK Fire has slightly more ending lag. It now travels much farther back to Ness if reflected rather than petering out after traveling its set distance.
- PK Fire's effect after hitting an opponent produces darker colored flames and more smoke.
- When interrupted whilst starting up PK Fire, Ness stops reciting the attack's name.
- PK Thunder travels faster, has less ending lag, much larger hitboxes, deals much better knockback, travels in a drastically tighter arc and goes through opponents until the tail disconnects from Ness with 1% more damage, making him less susceptible to being gimped. PK Thunder 2 is much faster, also has much greater knockback (now KOing at around 30%), and when Ness bounces off a wall while recovering with it, he can initiate PK Thunder again during the bounce.
- PK Thunder 2 has increased ending lag.
- PK Thunder and PSI Magnet are now light blue like in Melee.
- PSI Magnet has significantly less ending lag, with Ness now being able to act out of it much quicker. The magnet is also larger, increasing its range.
- PSI Magnet swirls projectiles around it, causing a slight delay until Ness can actually be healed. If Ness were to drop PSI Magnet and/or be launched, the absorbed projectiles may take even longer to reach him, but they will still heal him eventually.
- The swirling of captured attacks by PSI Magnet utterly nullifies even projectiles that would continue past Ness, including Thoron and Thunder.
- PK Starstorm now fires a thin, aimable line of meteors from the top-center of the stage, similar to how Aura Storm functioned. This enables it to deal damage more reliably at the cost of having blind spots.
- PK Starstorm now has a flame effect, instead of an electric effect.
Update history
Ness has been slightly nerfed overall in game updates. His most notable nerfs are the reduced damage output to his down throw and PK Fire having slightly more endlag. The changes to shield mechanics also hamper him slightly due to the majority of his non PSI-based moves having a rather low damage output. Ness has also got some other useful buffs, however, such as a faster PSI Magnet and his down aerial having a bigger hitbox and lasts one more frame (though it's still his least useful aerial), and while the buffs do not truly compensate for his nerfs, he remains a strong character.
- The period Ness can be at his maximum fall speed before using hard landing lag has been lengthened: 4 → 5 frames.
- PK Thunder and all custom variations have 6 frames more ending lag.
- Down throw's five hits have gained additional hitboxes, allowing them to hit Mr. Game & Watch.
- Down throw's five hits before release deal less damage: 1% → 0.6%.
- Down throw's release has increased knockback: 90 base/30 growth → 70/80, hindering its combo ability at high percents.
- Forward smash's has an updated sound effect when reflecting projectiles.
- Down throw's screen shaking effect is more pronounced.
- PSI Magnet's ending lag decreased.
- Down aerial's meteor smash hitbox size increased: 3.5u → 3.9u and duration increased.
- PK Fire's ending lag increased.
- Rising PK Flash's knockback altered base knockback decreased: 80 (base)/30 (scaling) → 50/80, improving its KO potential.
- Rising PK Flash's first hitbox's duration decreased: 3 → 2.
- Rising PK Flash minimum charge increased.
- Rising PK Flash's range increased: 10 → 13.
- PK Freeze range increased: 10 → 11.
- PK Fire Burst deals 1% more damage: 1%/8% → 2%/9% and hits earlier.
- PSI Magnet heals halved damage from absorbing teammates' projectiles.
Moveset
Name | Damage | Description | ||
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Neutral attack | 2% | Punches twice, then kicks. The first hit can lock at low percents. | ||
2% | ||||
4% | ||||
Forward tilt | ↗ | 10% | A roundhouse kick. Can be angled, making it deal 1% more damage. It can also lock at low percents. | |
→ | 9% | |||
↘ | 10% | |||
Up tilt | 7% (arms) 5% (hands) | Pushes upward with both hands that produces a PSI spark. Has a sourpot located on his hands that deals 5%. | ||
Down tilt | 4% (foot), 2% (toes) | A swift shin kick. Extremely spammable and can be used to jab reset. Has a sourspot located on the tip of his foot. Has a chance of making the opponent trip. | ||
Dash attack | 4%/3% (hit 1), 7% (hit 1 aerial), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3) | Sends three PSI sparks out in front of him with the third spark knocking the opponent up into the air. The first spark deals more damage to aerial targets. Good to set up juggles and pressuring from afar. Difficult to punish on shield if only the last hit connects. | ||
Forward smash | 18% (low), 20% (mid), 22% (tip), 2× damage (reflected projectiles) | Swings his bat. It is the second strongest forward smash in the game when sweetspotted at the tip of the bat and still one of the strongest forward smashes when untippered, but it has some start-up and ending lag. The bat itself will reflect incoming projectiles when he swings it. However, reflecting a projectile that is too strong to reflect can cause him to have terribly long endlag, making it incredibly unsafe if the opponent is nearby. | ||
Up smash | 9%-13% | Sends his yo-yo forward and performs "around-the-world" over himself. A decent anti-air and a good out of shield option. It is more powerful if the opponent is behind Ness, but it's still the weakest up smash in the game, not KOing until roughly 137%. | ||
Down smash | 1% (hit 1, front and back) 1% (hit 2, front and back) 10% (hit 3, front and back) | Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walk-the-cat" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Covers get up options well, but cannot connect well if the opponent is at the longest range of the move. | ||
Neutral aerial | 11% (clean), 7% (late) | Spins diagonally in the air with his arms outstretched. Quick, and acts like a sex kick. Can be followed-up after a down throw. Rather useful to break combos and as an out of shield option. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
Forward aerial | 1% (hit 1-3) 4% (hit 4) | Sticks his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him. Decently safe on shield if Ness retreats during the attack, useful to start and continue combos. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
Back aerial | 15% (clean), 8% (late) | Ness kicks out backwards with both feet. The initial hit is immensely strong, KOing at 125% onstage and even lower at the ledge. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
Up aerial | 13% | An upwards headbutt. It is considered one of Ness' best aerials, due to its rather quick startup, power that makes it effective for comboing at low percentages and KOing at high ones, starting at 115%. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
Down aerial | 12% (sweetspot), 10% (sourspot) | Pulls his legs to his body before stomping down into the air, producing a PSI spark. This attack can meteor smash on the first frame. It has slow start up, as it comes out on frame 20 and has lots of landing lag (28 frames). It only autocancels before the hitbox comes out, making it useful to cancel the tumble animation when Ness is near the ground. | ||
Grab | — | Grabs with both hands. Fast, but below average range. | ||
Pummel | 1.2% | Headbutts the opponent. A fast pummel. | ||
Forward throw | 11% | Psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward. Very high base knockback, but incredibly low scaling, KOing at percents generally not even seen in a standard match (starting at around 850%). However, it can KO very easily on Smashville or Town and City at 0%, depending on the platform's position. | ||
Back throw | 11% | Psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Possesses very low base knockback but incredibly high knockback scaling, making it the strongest throw in the entire game, KOing Bowser, the heaviest character in the game, with optimal DI at 122% near the ledge without rage. | ||
Up throw | 10% | Psychokinetically spins the opponent above his head before sending them up. Leaves the opponent in an unfavorable position where they can be juggled, most commonly by PK Thunder. | ||
Down throw | 0.6% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) | Throws the opponent onto the ground and scorches them with PK Fire. A strong combo starter, having guaranteed follow-ups into neutral aerial, forward aerial and up aerial. | ||
Forward roll Back roll Spot dodge Air dodge |
— | — | ||
Techs | — | — | ||
Floor attack (front) Floor getups (front) |
7% | |||
Floor attack (back) Floor getups (back) |
7% | |||
Floor attack (trip) Floor getups (trip) |
5% | |||
Edge attack Edge getups |
7% | Flips onto the stage and does a sweep kick. | ||
Neutral special | Default | PK Flash | 9%-37% | A green plasma-like energy projectile appears above Ness. As the special attack button is held, the sphere moves downwards and increases in power, until the attack button is released or until it is fully charged, it explodes. Can KO as low 37% fully charged. |
Custom 1 | Rising PK Flash | 8%-24% | A magenta colored PK Flash that keeps rising, hence the name. Has minimal control and deals less damage, but has a larger hitbox. | |
Custom 2 | PK Freeze | 10%-19% | Inflicts less damage, but freezes opponents. Works like Lucas's neutral special, except with the same movement as PK Flash. His voice clips also changes. | |
Side special | Default | PK Fire | 4% (lightning), 2% (fire) | Fires a yellow, lightning-bolt shaped projectile, that travels in a straight line until it hits an enemy or destructible portion of a stage, at which point it explodes into a gradually-fading pillar of fire, making said enemy vulnerable. Fires at a downward 50 degree angle if used in the air. |
Custom 1 | PK Bonfire | 2% (lightning), 3%-5% (fire) | The lightning-bolt doesn't travel as far, but the flame pillar is stronger and it sticks around longer. Has much less combo potential due to its increased ending lag and knockback. | |
Custom 2 | PK Fire Burst | 2% (lightning), 9% (fire) | Releases a single flame when it hits and knocks opponents farther. It will always travel horizontally even when used in the air, similar to Lucas's variant of PK Fire. It also travels further distance. | |
Up special | Default | PK Thunder | 8% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 25% (PK Thunder 2 initial hitbox), 21% (PK Thunder 2 late hitbox) | Creates a stream of lightning that can be aimed into opponents to deal damage with the head and stun with the tail. Aiming the head into Ness himself will launch him in a trajectory opposite to the side he was hit on, which is referred to as PK Thunder 2. PK Thunder 2 has invincibility frames during the first half of the move. Ness' recovery move, but it can be easily gimped during startup. |
Custom 1 | Lasting PK Thunder | 7% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 1.5% (PK Thunder 2, each hit), 10% (PK Thunder 2, last hit) | Functions identically to Lucas's counterpart, with tighter turning and both the projectile and Ness piercing enemies. Deals less damage, but launches Ness further. | |
Custom 2 | Rolling PK Thunder | 12% (PK Thunder), 1% (Thunder's tail), 30% (PK Thunder 2) | Creates a slower, yet larger PK Thunder. Both the projectile and Ness do more damage and knockback. However, the distance Ness moves with PK Thunder 2 is significantly shorter, making this a high-risk, high-reward move. | |
Down special | Default | PSI Magnet | 0% | A purple energy field around him which allows him to absorb any energy-based projectile (like Samus' Charge Shot). It can be held in order to use it repeatedly. Heals 1.6× the damage Ness would have taken, but only heals a maximum of 30% damage. |
Custom 1 | PSI Vacuum | 10% | Ness draws opponents in, releasing an explosion that damages nearby foes when the move is released. It cannot absorb projectiles. | |
Custom 2 | Forward PSI Magnet | 9% | The magnet appears in front of him, just like Lucas's version. It damages an opponent inside the magnet when the move is released. | |
Final Smash | PK Starstorm | 8% per hit | Summons stars to fall from the sky to annihilate his enemies. The comets descend in a straight line over Ness and can sweep the screen with directional inputs to the left and right. |
On-screen appearance
- Ness teleports on the screen using PSI Teleport. He then shakes the ash off of his body.
Taunts
- Up taunt: Turns to the screen and nods his head while saying "Okay".
- Side taunt: Takes his bat out and points it in front of him.
- Down taunt: Releases a wave of PSI from his finger.
Up taunt | Side taunt | Down taunt |
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Idle poses
- Looks around curiously.
- Closes his eyes and places his fingers on his forehead, concentrating his PSI, and then points it forward.
Crowd cheer
English | Japanese | |
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Cheer | ||
Description | Su-per Ness! | Ness! Ness! Ness! |
Pitch | Group chant | Group chant |
Victory poses
- Skips in place and then nods similar to his up taunt.
- Looks to his sides quickly before facing the screen, putting his hand on the back of his head.
- Swings his bat multiple times, then points it forward.
In competitive play
Official Custom Moveset Project
Character | Custom sets available | ||||
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Ness | 1112 | 1121 | 1122 | 1311 | 1312 |
1321 | 1322 | 1212 | 2111 | 1113 |
Notable players
Active
- Awestin - The best Ness player in Texas, consistently achieves top 8 at Shockwave tournaments. Placed 9th at Aftershock 2016 and 17th at Low Tier City 4.
- BestNess - The best Ness player in the Midwest, from Utah. Ranked 1st on the Utah Smash 4 Power Rankings. Place 7th at Rise 2018 and 25th at GENESIS 5. Has wins over ANTi, Darkshad, JK, Xzax, Shaky, Charliedaking, and Shoyo James.
- Gackt - The best Ness main in Japan, and considered one of the best in the world. He is famous for his insane PK thunder reads. Placed 13th at Umebura 26 and 17th at The Big House 7. He has notably beaten ANTi, Earth, komorikiri, Locus, Mistake, Ned, T, shky, Abadango, dyr, and Tsu-.
- FOW - Widely considered the best solo Ness player in the world. Placed 4th at PAX Arena, 4th at 2GGT: Fresh Saga, 5th at GENESIS 3, 7th at EVO 2015, 13th at 2GGC: Nairo Saga, 17th at 2GGT: ZeRo Saga, 25th at 2GGC: Civil War and many more high placings. Has beaten players such as Ally, ANTi, Captain Zack, Elegant, ESAM, Larry Lurr, Manny, Marss, and VoiD. He was formerly ranked 50th on the current Panda Global SSB4 Rankings.
- MASA - Notably plays using a Nintendo 3DS. Placed 7th at Sumabato 7 and 9th at Sumabato 15. Has a win over HIKARU.
- NAKAT - Co-mains Fox and Ness and is considered one of the best Ness players in the world. He has the best and most consistent results out of all active Ness mains. Has taken sets off of Ally, ANTi, CaptainZack, Larry Lurr, Locus, Mistake, Nairo, Salem, and Zinoto with Ness. Placed 2nd at Smash the Record 2015, 9th at CEO 2016, 13th at EVO 2017, 17th at GameTyrant Expo 2017, and 17th at 2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga with him. Currently ranked 33rd on Panda Global SSB4 Rankings.
- Ribs - Formerly ranked ranked 6th on the New York Smash 4 Power Rankings. Has beaten Vinnie and Mr. ConCon. Currently on a semi-active state.
- S1 - The best Ness player in Europe. Placed 5th at B.E.A.S.T 7 and Midwest Mayhem 11, 7th at B.E.A.S.T 6 and Syndicate 2017, and 9th at Syndicate 2016. Has beaten top Dutch players such as iStudying and Mr.R. Ranked 2nd on the Dutch Smash 4 Power Rankings, tied with iStudying.
- Shaky - The best Ness main in Northern California. Placed 7th at CEO 2015 and 9th at GENESIS 3. Has beaten 6WX, Ally, ESAM, Falln, Fatality, Ito, Mew2King, MVD, NAKAT, Tyrant, and Tweek.
- SS - Co-mains Ness and Villager, considered a top Ness player in the United States. Has beaten Captain Zack while using Ness. Ranked 1st on the Arizona Smash 4 Power Rankings.
- taranito - One of the best Ness players in Japan. Placed 5th at Umebura 25, 9th at Umebura 26, and 17th at EVO Japan 2018. He has wins over 9B, Choco, Rain, Sigma, Tsu-, and T.
- The Great Gonzales - The best Ness player in the Tri-State area, then-ranked 3rd on the New Jersey Smash 4 Power Rankings, and is also considered to be one of the best in the world. Has a long streak of success at The Break Weekly, and placed 5th at Royal Flush and 17th at both KTAR XX and Smash 'N' Splash 3. Has beaten 6WX, Day, Lima, Mr.E, Pink Fresh, Pugwest, Salem, ScAtt, and WaDi. He has a Diddy Kong as a co-main, but still uses Ness for certain matchups.
Inactive
- Deimos
- Greward
- DSS - Now mains Meta Knight.
- Fsann - Formerly ranked 15th on the Umebura Smash 4 Power Rankings.
Tier placement and history
Opinions on Ness' competitive viability have been controversial throughout the game's lifespan. During the early life of SSB4, smashers immediately noticed the vast buffs made to Ness. Many smashers recognized that Ness no longer have the 10 extra frame grab-release animations, his combo game has been markedly improved, and his recovery is much harder to gimp by the addition of a new edge-trumping mechanic. From these initial buffs, Ness was widely considered to be a prominent high tier or even a top-tier character. From possessing arguably one of the best throw games in SSB4, a highly versatile aerial game, alongside excellent KO power and damage output, Ness's expectations continued strong, leading to great tournament representation. His results had been splendid throughout 2015-Early 2016 thanks to likes of FOW and Shaky. With FOW's 7th placement at EVO 2015 and 5th place at GENESIS 3 and Shaky's 7th placement at CEO 2015 and 9th placement at GENESIS 3, it solidified Ness into 13th position on the first official 4BR tier list.
After the first tier list, his results slightly fell from the slight inconsistency from FOW and the sudden inactivity from Shaky. While Ness made a slight decline, the release of Bayonetta, the significant buffs to Mewtwo and the increased representation of Mega Man drop Ness even further. Despite this, Ness' results and representation went on strong and would drop slightly on the second tier list, placing at 16th.
Over time, Ness' flaws came to be more apparent, with players noticing that his subpar mobility, mediocre ground game, and notably gimpable recovery made him struggle against high and top tiers, despite his buffs. As a result, opinions on Ness began to fall off drastically. His results would become stagnant, as many of his players became significantly inactive (Specifically after EVO 2016 to 2GGT: ZeRo Saga). During the period of stagnation, Ness had been rivaled against his fellow EarthBound semi-clone, Lucas. While Lucas was initially considered inferior to Ness in the Smash community, over time, the community questioned about Ness' and Lucas' viability. Lucas' buffs received from patches and his commendable results thanks to Taiheita slowly led the community into believing that Lucas is superior to Ness. At the same time, some of his previously not so troublesome matchups such as Marth and Lucina would also gain a large spike in popularity and viability, and prove to now be worrisome matchups for Ness. Despite again gaining results on Winter 2016 and 2017, most noticeably FOW's 17th placement in 2GGT: ZeRo Saga and S1's 5th placement in B.E.A.S.T 7, it didn't compensate the loss of his stagnant results he had suffered from mid to late 2016. This resulted in a much larger tier drop to 24th on the third tier list, being tied with Pac-Man for the largest between the second and third tier lists.
Throughout 2017, several mains began to return to the scene, with FOW briefly coming out of retirement to place 13th at 2GGC: Nairo Saga and 25th at 2GGC: Civil War respectively. NAKAT, despite using Ness as a secondary in favor of Fox in 2016, began to co-main Ness. With his Ness, NAKAT placed 3rd at Smash Factor 6, 13th at EVO 2017, 17th at GameTyrant Expo 2017, 17th at 2GGC: FE Saga, and 33rd at GENESIS 4. The Tristate Ness main, The Great Gonzales, placed 5th at Royal Flush and 17th at Smash 'N' Splash 3 respectively. Most recently, a Japanese Ness player, Gackt, made a breakout performance at The Big House 7 by claiming wins against ANTi, Locus, Mistake and secured 17th place. Regardless of these improved results, opinion from Ness worsened and many Smashers, including ZeRo and Nairo, widely believed that Lucas is superior to Ness, despite Ness' accomplishments. From this, Ness dropped once again on the fourth and current tier list, at 28th, now sharing the spot with his Earthbound representative Lucas though due to the expansion of the tiers, he is now considered a high tier character rather than a mid tier character.
Fortunately, opinions from Ness began to improve for the first time as he continues to net above average results thanks to Gackt, BestNess, taranito, and S1 earning notable results in their regions and even in some major tournaments such as BestNess getting 25th at GENESIS 5, S1 placing 5th at Midwest Mayhem 11 and almost causing a huge upset vs Captain Zack, taranito placing 17th at EVO Japan 2018, and Gackt placing 2nd at Frostbite Ursa Minor 2 and taking sets off of komorikiri dyr and Ned. These results have even been more impressive than some of the characters ranked above him such as Greninja, Villager, and Bowser. While Ness continued to grow, his fellow EarthBound representative, Lucas (Who is currently tied with Ness for 28th on the current Smash 4 tier list) dropped in quality from his declining results in Japan and the absence of Taiheita. On top of this, FOW recently confirmed his return to the smash scene as a Ness main as he will attend more tournaments. Because of these notable results and his continuous rise, it is unknown whether Ness will continue to stay as a low high tier or if he will regain his former glory. Regardless, Ness is still viewed as a viable character in tournament play and can even achieve favorable placements in national level when solo-main. However, he may require to have secondaries on certain matchups.
Trophies
- Ness
- From Onett in Eageland comes this young lad. He may not look like much, but he has powerful psychic abilities, and they really come in handy in EarthBound. They come in handy in this game, too. Did you know you can control his PK Thunder bolt? Aim it at Ness himself to send him flying, absolutely clobbering anyone in his path!
- : EarthBound -- 06/1995
- : Mother 1+2 -- 2003 (JP)
- Ness (Alt.)
- Ness may have psychic powers, but that doesn't mean he shies away from getting physical. His side smash packs a real punch if you hit enemies with the end of his bat, and it can even reflect projectiles! His up and down smashes have a lot of range, meaning when you play as Ness, it's always easy to land hits on your foes!
- : EarthBound -- 06/1995
- : Mother 1+2 -- 2003 (JP)
- PK Starstorm
- In EarthBound, this PSI ability belonged to Poo, the Crown Prince of Dalaam and one of Ness's friends. Ness must have learned it especially for Smash Bros.! The attack makes a shower of meteors fall onto the stage, damaging any foes it hits. While the attack's in progress, Ness is invincible and can adjust the meteors' trajectory.
In Event Matches
Solo Events
- All-Star Battle: Secret: Ness is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents are characters that have been unlockable in previous Super Smash Bros. games.
- It's Past Your Bedtime!: As Jigglypuff, the player must make Ness, Bowser Jr. and Toon Link fall asleep at the same time by using Sing.
- Playing Tricks: Ness must bury two Villagers at the same time with Pitfalls.
Co-op Events
- The Ultimate Battle: Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster.
- Visiting Onett: Ness and Villager must defeat Kirby, Meta Knight, Fox, Falco, Olimar, and Rosalina & Luma.
Alternate costumes
Gallery
Ness's amiibo.
Posing with Jeff.
Posing with Pikachu.
Posing with Toon Link.
Posing next to Mr. Saturn.
Attacking Sheik with PK Thunder.
Using PK Starstorm.
On Battlefield.
On Magicant.
Attacking Starmen.
Using PSI Magnet.
Using PK Fire.
Trivia
- Ness and Palutena are the only characters in SSB4 with different voice clips for custom moves; in Ness's case, he has a unique voice clip when using PK Freeze.
- Ness's amiibo description on the North American amiibo website is based on his trophy description from Melee.
- Ness's yo-yo in this game reads "SUPER NINTENDO 2014" and "MOTHER", in reference to his console of origin, SSB4's year of release, and his home series.
- Ness's custom special PK Freeze is one of only three custom specials in the game that have a preview image featuring a non-silhouetted character besides the user of the attack (alongside Mega Man's Ice Slasher and Lucas's PK Freeze). This is likely due to the characters being frozen.
- Ness and Jigglypuff are the only original 12 characters to be excluded from newcomer poster art.
- One set of Ness's custom moves reference Lucas's moveset in Brawl (and as later included in Smash 4).
- Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS is the only game where Ness and Captain Falcon do not have the same availability.
Fighters in Super Smash Bros. 4 | |
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Veterans | Bowser · Captain Falcon · Charizard · Diddy Kong · Donkey Kong · Dr. Mario · Falco · Fox · Ganondorf · Ike · Jigglypuff · King Dedede · Kirby · Link · Lucario · Lucas · Luigi · Mario · Marth · Meta Knight · Mewtwo · Mr. Game & Watch · Ness · Olimar · Peach · Pikachu · Pit · R.O.B. · Roy · Samus · Sheik · Sonic · Toon Link · Wario · Yoshi · Zelda · Zero Suit Samus |
Newcomers | Bayonetta · Bowser Jr. · Cloud · Corrin · Dark Pit · Duck Hunt · Greninja · Little Mac · Lucina · Mega Man · Mii Fighter (Mii Brawler · Mii Gunner · Mii Swordfighter) · Pac-Man · Palutena · Robin · Rosalina & Luma · Ryu · Shulk · Villager · Wii Fit Trainer |
EarthBound (Mother) universe | |
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Fighters | Ness (SSB · SSBM · SSBB · SSB4 · SSBU) · Lucas (SSBB · SSB4 · SSBU) |
Assist Trophies | Jeff · Starman |
Bosses | Porky Statue · Porky |
Stages | Onett · Fourside · New Pork City · Magicant |
Items | Mr. Saturn · Franklin Badge · Ramblin' Evil Mushroom |
Enemies | Devil Car · Starman |
Other | Boney · Flying Man · Kumatora · Paula · Poo · Rope Snake · Ultimate Chimera |
Trophies, Stickers and Spirits | Trophies (SSBM · SSBB · SSB4) · Stickers · Spirits |
Music | Brawl · SSB4 · Ultimate |
Masterpiece | EarthBound |