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==Overview==
==Overview==
The special move's name is '''[[Stone]]''', where Kirby transforms into a rock (an ability from most [[Kirby (universe)|''Kirby'' games]], becoming impervious to damage and knockback outside of [[grab]]s for the entire move's duration (exactly like a [[shield]]). While in stone form, Kirby can't move or attack until he reverts back to normal. Either simply waiting three seconds or pressing the [[B button]] will cause Kirby to revert back to normal. If the move is used on the ground, Kirby won't move, though if used in midair, he will fall to the ground quickly. If Kirby lands on a sloped surface (such as the left side of [[Hyrule Castle]]) during the move, he will slide down it.
Kirby's down special move is named '''[[Stone]]''', where Kirby transforms into a rock (an ability from most [[Kirby (universe)|''Kirby'' games]]) and becomes impervious to damage and knockback outside of [[grab]]s for the entire move's duration (exactly like a [[shield]]). While in stone form, Kirby can't move or attack until he reverts back to normal. Either simply waiting three seconds or pressing the [[B button]] will cause Kirby to revert back to normal. If the move is used in midair, Kirby will fall to the ground quickly; if Kirby lands on a sloped surface (such as the left side of [[Hyrule Castle]]) during the move or uses the move while standing on a sloped surface, he will slide down it. The Level 9 AI frequently does this move near this ledge, leading to [[SD]]ing very commonly.


The move can't be used offensively while grounded, being unable to hit opponents unless Kirby uses it in the air. However, it does 20% damage and great vertical knockback. The move is rather useful for countering [[juggling]] from opponents, especially air juggling, as the strong vertical knockback of the move can easily KO unwary opponents, or even more competent opponents if [[mindgame|used unexpectedly]]. However, the pretty slow [[startup]] makes it a bit less effective. Additionally, if Kirby lands and misses the opponent, the move has very high [[ending lag]] (even if immediately cancelled), being very easily [[punish]]ed by almost any move.
The move can't be used offensively while grounded, being unable to hit opponents unless Kirby uses it in the air and hits an opponent while falling. When he does however, it does 20% damage and great vertical knockback. The move is rather useful for countering [[juggling]] from opponents, especially air juggling, as the strong vertical knockback of the move can easily KO unwary opponents, or even more competent opponents if [[mindgame|used unexpectedly]]. However, the slow [[startup]] makes it a bit less effective. Additionally, if Kirby lands and misses the opponent, the move has very high [[ending lag]], even if immediately cancelled, being very easily [[punish]]ed by almost any move.


{{technical data}}
In terms of competitive play, it can be used to edgeguard Yoshi (albeit rarely) or other characters recovering from below at an angle (Falcon/Fox) but this is beatable by Smash DI'ing into the stage. It's also an [[unblockable attack]] if done on the exact edge of a lip (such as all the way on the left corner of Hyrule) as it will automatically hit twice, once on stage, and once while Kirby is falling.
 
==Hitboxes==
===NTSC-J===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|part=0
|damage=22%
|angle=50
|bk=70
|ks=78
|fkv=0
|r=200
|bn=0
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
}}
|}
 
===NTSC-U/PAL===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|part=0
|damage=20%
|damagebg=nerf
|angle=50
|bk=70
|ks=70
|ksbg=nerf
|fkv=0
|r=200
|bn=0
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
}}
|}
 
====Summary====
*{{nerf|Damage (22% → 20%).}}
*{{nerf|Knockback scaling (78 → 70).}}
 
==Timing==
===Grounded===
The hitbox only occurs if Kirby slips off the ledge. The frame strip shows if Kirby cancels the move as early as possible.
{|class="wikitable"
!Hitbox
|6-
|-
!Earliest cancel point
|7
|-
!Animation length (ending)
|29
|}
 
{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=5}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=29|s=LagContinuableE}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
 
===Aerial===
The frame strip shows if Kirby cancels the move as early as possible and he does not land.
{|class="wikitable"
!Hitbox
|23-
|-
!Earliest cancel point
|43
|-
!Animation length (ending)
|29
|}
 
{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=22}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=20|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=29|s=LagContinuableE}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
 
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|earliestcontinuable=y}}


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Latest revision as of 14:37, September 13, 2020

This article is about the hitbox visualization in Super Smash Bros.. For the move itself, see Stone.

Overview[edit]

Kirby's down special move is named Stone, where Kirby transforms into a rock (an ability from most Kirby games) and becomes impervious to damage and knockback outside of grabs for the entire move's duration (exactly like a shield). While in stone form, Kirby can't move or attack until he reverts back to normal. Either simply waiting three seconds or pressing the B button will cause Kirby to revert back to normal. If the move is used in midair, Kirby will fall to the ground quickly; if Kirby lands on a sloped surface (such as the left side of Hyrule Castle) during the move or uses the move while standing on a sloped surface, he will slide down it. The Level 9 AI frequently does this move near this ledge, leading to SDing very commonly.

The move can't be used offensively while grounded, being unable to hit opponents unless Kirby uses it in the air and hits an opponent while falling. When he does however, it does 20% damage and great vertical knockback. The move is rather useful for countering juggling from opponents, especially air juggling, as the strong vertical knockback of the move can easily KO unwary opponents, or even more competent opponents if used unexpectedly. However, the slow startup makes it a bit less effective. Additionally, if Kirby lands and misses the opponent, the move has very high ending lag, even if immediately cancelled, being very easily punished by almost any move.

In terms of competitive play, it can be used to edgeguard Yoshi (albeit rarely) or other characters recovering from below at an angle (Falcon/Fox) but this is beatable by Smash DI'ing into the stage. It's also an unblockable attack if done on the exact edge of a lip (such as all the way on the left corner of Hyrule) as it will automatically hit twice, once on stage, and once while Kirby is falling.

Hitboxes[edit]

NTSC-J[edit]

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset Clang Effect G A Sound
0 0 22% 0 AngleIcon50.png 70 78 0 200 0 0 0 0 HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png Normal (effect) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick

NTSC-U/PAL[edit]

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset Clang Effect G A Sound
0 0 20% 0 AngleIcon50.png 70 70 0 200 0 0 0 0 HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png Normal (effect) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick

Summary[edit]

  • Nerf Damage (22% → 20%).
  • Nerf Knockback scaling (78 → 70).

Timing[edit]

Grounded[edit]

The hitbox only occurs if Kirby slips off the ledge. The frame strip shows if Kirby cancels the move as early as possible.

Hitbox 6-
Earliest cancel point 7
Animation length (ending) 29
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Aerial[edit]

The frame strip shows if Kirby cancels the move as early as possible and he does not land.

Hitbox 23-
Earliest cancel point 43
Animation length (ending) 29
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Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag
Lag time		 Hitbox
Hitbox		 FrameIcon(BlankContinuableS).pngFrameIcon(BlankContinuableE).png
Earliest continuable point


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