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I believe this should be moved to Pro Impact Players/Videography or merged into the Pro Impact Players article. Please put your comments below. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">DarkFox01</font>]], <small>[[Special:Editcount/DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">E</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="gray">T</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">C</font>]].'''</small> 18:46, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
I believe this should be moved to Pro Impact Players/Videography or merged into the Pro Impact Players article. Please put your comments below. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">DarkFox01</font>]], <small>[[Special:Editcount/DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">E</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="gray">T</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">C</font>]].'''</small> 18:46, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
===Move===
===Move===
Make it a sub-page.  We have a selected Vidiogrpahy which gives the most notable videos, and this can be linked there as the comprehensive list.  That is the most encyclopedic way to do it.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 19:15, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
I agree with the sub page concept. If there were to be a merge, half the Pro Impact page would just be video links. Keep encyclopedic information on one page, videos on the other. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 14:37, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
'''No merge''' Pro-merge has no real argument for merging instead of having a subpage, while C. Hawk has one for the subpage. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:19, 28 October 2012 (EDT)


===Merge===
===Merge===
This is essentially a list of links. It would best be merged with the Pro Impact Players article. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 18:48, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
I think a merge would be best. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] All you need is love! And $$$. 19:03, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
Merge per Mouse's points. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 19:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
Considering there is a videography section on the Pro Impact Players article, merge it. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:25, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
:Having seen what the Pro Impact Players page would look like with this videography on it, I support even moreso, the videography fit in very nicely without taking up a heap of space. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:30, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
Go ahead and merge it once the time comes.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] ([[User talk:Starman125|talk]]) 19:32, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
'''Merge''' Article isn't too long to merge with the main article. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  22:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
<s>I think this section could be good to merge. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Kirby]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 17:15, 26 October 2012 (EDT)</s>
===Delete===
In my opinion, having a videography for a particular player or clan is a poor idea to start with, especially as I don't think any other player/clan has one like this. List a couple of their biggest things, but then just link to the YouTube channels. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 10:12, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
===Comments===
Why are all you merge guys blatantly ignoring what Clarinet Hawk said? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:20, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
:We're not, we're only expressing our opinions that this should be merged, for various reasons. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 22:32, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
::Why are you assuming that because we don't agree with a bureaucrat, we didn't read what he typed? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 13:50, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
:::I think what OT was trying to say is that no one has justified why this information is notable enough to be on the main Pro Impact page, and not part of a sub-page linked therein.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 13:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
I'd like to bring this back up. This imo should be merged with the Pro Impact Players article, because the videography section on that page is quite sloppy, and this article's content can replace that as it is much better organized. We can add explanations of the videos to the table if anyone desires to keep them. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 17:13, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
I do have one suggestion: We move the page to Pro Impact Players/Videography right now, so we can ditch the move tag, and improve what we currently have, then keep the discussion on merging going. Does anybody oppose this? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:19, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
Go ahead. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 17:19, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
That's... actually a brilliant compromise. I '''support'''. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 17:37, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
We moved the article so we could continue discussing merge, so the move discussion is now off the table. No one has said anything about not merging other than Clarinet Hawk. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:23, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:C. Hawk's argument for moving to a subpage is a whole lot stronger than what you merge guys are putting up (which just essentially consists of "I think this should be merged"), as well as blindly accusing me of appealing to authority when I pointed out you guys haven't addressed him. Refute C. Hawk, or there will be no merge.
:Your argument also ignores how the videography section on the main page is for the most notable videos here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:19, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
::''As well as blindly accusing me of appealing to authority''
::I'm sorry, but if you don't want us to do that, don't claim that the reason we don't agree with Clarinet Hawk is because we haven't read what he typed, or that we are ignoring it for t3h lulz, rather than considering the possibility that we simply have our opinions. I shall stick by mine, as having seen the videography on the main article, it fits in very nicely. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:01, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
:::And here you are being an ass. I said nothing about "not agreeing with C. Hawk", I pointed out you guys didn't address what he said. "We have our opinions" is arrogant and ignoring proper protocol of how a talk page discussion works; when someone brings up a strong point in opposition, you address it and refute, you don't just ignore it. Just saying "I like this better" over and over is not how you handle talk page discussions. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:11, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
:I'm just going to respond to OT's original point and confess that I did not see Clarinet Hawk's post at the top, and that my current position on this is '''neutral'''. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  12:35, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 11:35, October 28, 2012

Possible Move/Merge?[edit]

I believe this should be moved to Pro Impact Players/Videography or merged into the Pro Impact Players article. Please put your comments below. DarkFox01, ETC. 18:46, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Move[edit]

Make it a sub-page. We have a selected Vidiogrpahy which gives the most notable videos, and this can be linked there as the comprehensive list. That is the most encyclopedic way to do it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:15, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

I agree with the sub page concept. If there were to be a merge, half the Pro Impact page would just be video links. Keep encyclopedic information on one page, videos on the other. --Havoc48 >:D!!! 14:37, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

No merge Pro-merge has no real argument for merging instead of having a subpage, while C. Hawk has one for the subpage. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:19, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

Merge[edit]

This is essentially a list of links. It would best be merged with the Pro Impact Players article. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 18:48, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

I think a merge would be best. Air Conditioner AC.png All you need is love! And $$$. 19:03, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Merge per Mouse's points. --RoyboyX Talk 19:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Considering there is a videography section on the Pro Impact Players article, merge it. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 19:25, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Having seen what the Pro Impact Players page would look like with this videography on it, I support even moreso, the videography fit in very nicely without taking up a heap of space. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 14:30, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

Go ahead and merge it once the time comes.--Starman125 (talk) 19:32, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Merge Article isn't too long to merge with the main article. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 22:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

I think this section could be good to merge. Dots The Kirby NintenNESsprite.png 17:15, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

Delete[edit]

In my opinion, having a videography for a particular player or clan is a poor idea to start with, especially as I don't think any other player/clan has one like this. List a couple of their biggest things, but then just link to the YouTube channels. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Irrepressible 10:12, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

Why are all you merge guys blatantly ignoring what Clarinet Hawk said? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:20, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

We're not, we're only expressing our opinions that this should be merged, for various reasons. --RoyboyX Talk 22:32, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
Why are you assuming that because we don't agree with a bureaucrat, we didn't read what he typed? Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 13:50, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
I think what OT was trying to say is that no one has justified why this information is notable enough to be on the main Pro Impact page, and not part of a sub-page linked therein. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 13:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT)

I'd like to bring this back up. This imo should be merged with the Pro Impact Players article, because the videography section on that page is quite sloppy, and this article's content can replace that as it is much better organized. We can add explanations of the videos to the table if anyone desires to keep them. --RoyboyX Talk 17:13, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

I do have one suggestion: We move the page to Pro Impact Players/Videography right now, so we can ditch the move tag, and improve what we currently have, then keep the discussion on merging going. Does anybody oppose this? Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 17:19, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

Go ahead. --RoyboyX Talk 17:19, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

That's... actually a brilliant compromise. I support. Air Conditioner AC.png I am the air con. 17:37, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

We moved the article so we could continue discussing merge, so the move discussion is now off the table. No one has said anything about not merging other than Clarinet Hawk. --RoyboyX Talk 14:23, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

C. Hawk's argument for moving to a subpage is a whole lot stronger than what you merge guys are putting up (which just essentially consists of "I think this should be merged"), as well as blindly accusing me of appealing to authority when I pointed out you guys haven't addressed him. Refute C. Hawk, or there will be no merge.
Your argument also ignores how the videography section on the main page is for the most notable videos here. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:19, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
As well as blindly accusing me of appealing to authority
I'm sorry, but if you don't want us to do that, don't claim that the reason we don't agree with Clarinet Hawk is because we haven't read what he typed, or that we are ignoring it for t3h lulz, rather than considering the possibility that we simply have our opinions. I shall stick by mine, as having seen the videography on the main article, it fits in very nicely. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:01, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
And here you are being an ass. I said nothing about "not agreeing with C. Hawk", I pointed out you guys didn't address what he said. "We have our opinions" is arrogant and ignoring proper protocol of how a talk page discussion works; when someone brings up a strong point in opposition, you address it and refute, you don't just ignore it. Just saying "I like this better" over and over is not how you handle talk page discussions. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:11, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
I'm just going to respond to OT's original point and confess that I did not see Clarinet Hawk's post at the top, and that my current position on this is neutral. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 12:35, 28 October 2012 (EDT)