User:Cookies and Creme/Smash 4 Opinions

An archive of some of my terrible opinions from a while back.

PGR 100 Predictions

Ranking	Smasher	PGR 1	PGR 2	PGR 3	PGR 4	PGR 5	Character(s)	Actual Placement
1st	ZeRo	1st	1st	1st	1st	---		1st
2nd	MkLeo	19th	8th	2nd	4th	1st		3rd
3rd	Nairo	2nd	3rd	3rd	3rd	4th		2nd
4th	Dabuz	3rd	4th	4th	6th	3rd		4th
5th	Tweek	15th	17th	12th	6th	2nd		7th
6th	Mr. R	4th	10th	9th	10th	8th		10th
7th	Larry Lurr	7th	5th	6th	7th	16th		8th
8th	Abadango	5th	7th	10th	15th	15th		13th
9th	Salem	---	13th	11th	2nd	5th		6th
10th	VoiD	8th	6th	13th	9th	11th		11th
11th	komorikiri	11th	12th	8th	16th	10th		12th
12th	Ally	6th	2nd	5th	14th	33rd		5th
13th	CaptainZack	---	20th	7th	18th	9th		15th
14th	KEN	---	19th	16th	8th	30th		9th
15th	ANTi	10th	9th	21st	20th	17th		14th
16th	Ranai	9th	14th	17th	---	---		21st
17th	Marss	13th	15th	14th	19th	25th		16th
18th	Mistake	---	---	---	13th	6th		25th
19th	Cosmos	---	---	---	17th	7th		30th
20th	Elegant	---	---	25th	11th	18th		27th
21st	ESAM	14th	27th	18th	21st	21st		17th
22nd	Lima	---	---	---	24th	19th		20th
23rd	Samsora	---	29th	24th	22nd	12th		22nd
24th	WaDi	---	21st	46th	12th	22nd		26th
25th	Fatality	41st	28th	15th	38th	14th		19th
26th	Zinoto	23rd	16th	20th	31st	28th		24th
27th	Kameme	---	11th	27th	44th	24th		18th
28th	Shuton	---	---	33rd	27th	26th		23rd
29th	Raito	---	---	34th	32nd	23rd		38th
30th	MVD	21st	47th	29th	25th	31st		31st
31st	Mr.E	---	18th	30th	28th	---		37th
32nd	Kirihara	---	48th	19th	29th	50th		28th
33rd	Choco	---	---	49th	36th	32nd		35th
34th	falln	40th	33rd	28th	41st	20th		29th
35th	Vinnie	18th	35th	---	46th	34th		36th
36th	Tsu-	---	---	26th	34th	46th		32nd
37th	Manny	31st	---	40th	23rd	51st		39th
38th	Wrath	---	43rd	51st	--	29th		59th
39th	6WX	20th	30th	31st	43rd	47th		34th
40th	Nietono	32nd	36th	43rd	---	37th		33rd
41st	Light	---	---	---	47th	13th		43rd
42nd	NAKAT	34th	---	42nd	33rd	---		49th
43rd	Ned	---	50th	37th	---	42nd		50th
44th	Zenyou	---	---	---	49th	43rd		61st
45th	9B	17th	---	23rd	---	---		44th
46th	Tyrant	22nd	34th	51st	---	---		64th
47th	Earth	33rd	25th	35th	---	---		42nd
48th	JK	---	---	48th	37th	---		---
49th	FOW	12th	---	50th	---	---		56th
50th	Mew2King	28th	26th	---	---	---		69th
51st	AC	---	---	45th	50th	38th		47th
52nd	Darkshad	---	44th	---	26th	45th		41st
53rd	Locus	---	45th	22nd	51st	49th		40th
54th	tyroy	---	---	---	40th	39th		55th
55th	Pink Fresh	30th	24th	---	---	---		60th
56th	ScAtt	43rd	31st	41st	---	---		51st
57th	Shoyo James	---	---	51st	42nd	35th		54th
58th	Sinji	---	---	---	---	48th		85th
59th	False	35th	41st	---	---	---		73rd
60th	Trela	25th	42nd	51st	---	---		65th
61st	SDX	---	---	---	---	27th		45th
62nd	T	---	---	32nd	---	---		46th
63rd	Hyuga	24th	22nd	---	---	---		---
64th	dyr	---	37th	---	39th	---		53rd
65th	Charlie	---	---	---	35th	---		67th
66th	HIKARU	---	---	36th	---	---		48th
67th	Javi	---	---	44th	51st	---		74th
68th	Maister	---	---	---	---	44th		81st
69th	Captain L	---	---	---	---	36th		79th
70th	SuperGirlKels	---	---	---	---	---		100th
71st	K9sbruce	27th	---	51st	48th	---		62nd
72nd	Saj	---	40th	---	---	---		---
73rd	Rich Brown	---	23rd	38th	---	---		52nd
74th	Ryo	45th	46th	---	---	---		77th
75th	shky	---	---	---	---	41st		---
76th	Blacktwins	---	---	---	---	---		---
77th	Ralphie	---	---	---	---	---		---
78th	Ito	37th	---	---	---	---		---
79th	Pugwest	---	39th	---	---	---		91st
80th	Gackt	---	---	---	---	---		---
81st	Taiheita	---	49th	---	---	---		58th
82nd	Megafox	34th	---	---	---	---		---
83rd	The Great Gonzales	---	---	---	---	---		---
84th	Dath	---	32nd	---	---	---		---
85th	Day	---	38th	---	---	---		80th
86th	Regi	---	---	---	---	---		---
87th	8BitMan	47th	---	---	---	---		---
88th	Rags	---	---	---	---	40th		87th
89th	Ryuga	---	---	---	45th	---		86th
90th	iStudying	42nd	---	---	---	---		---
91st	Myran	---	---	39th	---	---		---
92nd	Glutonny	---	---	---	---	---		70th
93rd	Angel Cortes	38th	---	---	---	---		---
94th	Mr. ConCon	36th	---	---	---	---		---
95th	Xzax	39th	---	---	---	---		92nd
96th	Kome	---	---	---	---	51st		84th
97th	RAIN	26th	---	---	---	---		66th
98th	BestNess	---	---	---	---	---		---
99th	Ron	---	---	---	---	---		57th
100th	Seagull Joe	48th	---	---	---	---		---

Hidden Bosses

() denotes actual results.

• Cacogen
• Chag
• cyve
• Edge (63rd)
• Eim (99th)
• Eon (98th)
• Ixis (89th)
• Karna
• Luhtie
• Nicko
• NickRiddle
• S1
• Sean
• Sigma (72nd)
• SlayerZ
• Smokk
• Stroder
• Tearbear
• yeti
• zaki

Best Player of Each Character

The only section probably worth looking at and the only section updated since I canned this page.

Character	Player	Other candidates	Reason
	Ally	—	One of the best Smash 4 players best known for winning EVO 2016, the largest Smash 4 event of all-time.
	Elegant	—	The only Luigi player ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
	Samsora	—	The only Peach player who was ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
	Nairo	LordMix	Although mostly known for being a secondary, he has defeated many top players with Bowser such as ZeRo, MkLeo, Tweek.
	Ron	Seth,  Raptor	Tri-mains Yoshi but has the best Yoshi wins and performances, including winning Sumabato 18 defeating Shuton and HIKARU with Yoshi. He is also the only Yoshi player ranked on the PGR 100, ranking 57th.
	Dabuz	—	One of the best Smash 4 players who has won six majors during Smash 4's heyday, including 2GGC: Civil War, considered one of the hardest Smash 4 events of all-time.
	Tweek	—	Really the only Bowser Jr. player ever relevant in top-level competitive play, and Tweek's character switch contributed to Bowser Jr.'s drop on the tier list.
	Glutonny	—	Europe's second-best player and the only Wario player ranked on the PGR, ranking 70th on the PGR 100.
	HIKARU	Tweek	While Tweek has the better wins, Tweek also predominantly played Cloud and had much better performances with Cloud. On the other hand, HIKARU is a solo-DK and regularly places highly at Japanese events. He remains the only solo-Donkey Kong player to top 8 a major (doing so at 2GGC: Civil War, no less).
	ZeRo	—	The greatest Smash 4 player of all-time.
	Maister	Regi	The only Mr. Game & Watch player ranked on the PGR, including 81st on the PGR 100.
	Tarakotori	Sol	Tough call to make, but Tarakotori's 9th-place run at Umebura Smash 4 Final is by far the best Little Mac performance of all-time, as not only was it the highest Little Mac placed at a major, but he also defeated Kameme, Zackray, and takera. His other results are similar to Sol, as Tarakotori regularly placing top 64 at Umebura events and and has also defeated players like Eim, Kuro, and Umeki at notable Japanese events.
	T	—	The only relevant Link player in top-level play (including being the only Link player ever ranked on a PGR). His rise in Japan and his run to 3rd at 2GGC: Civil War was instrumental to Link's rise on the tier list.
	Rizeasu	ven	Definitely can see this be a tossup due to Rizeasu's true main being Random, but Rizeasu has arguably the best Zelda performances of all-time, including 2nd at Sumabato Tokaigi Qualifier 2 and 7th at Sumabato 28 defeating HIKARU, as well as wins over players such as Kuro and ikep.
	ZeRo	Mr.R,  VoiD	The greatest Smash 4 player of all-time who used Sheik during his prime, though longevity-wise I could see some people arguing Mr.R or VoiD.
	adom	Gungnir,  Rickles	Literally could go to any of these three (or more) because the best Ganondorf players attend nothing. adom at least has a good record in Europe (9th at Syndicate 2017 and Sweet Impact - Deflagration are two notable ones) and was ranked 46th in Europe.
	Sigma	Hyuga	Only Toon Link player ranked on the PGR 100 and has the best Toon Link performances, such as 4th at Umebura Smash 4 Final and many great Sumabato runs, such as winning Sumabato 22. Hyuga was ranked higher and had comparable results, especially early on, but he didn't have a career after 2016.
	IcyMist	ESAM	ESAM has the better wins with Samus (mainly Ally), but he is primarily a Pikachu player. IcyMist has achieved some of the best Samus performances with solo-Samus, such as being the queen of Wi-Fi events and great runs at majors, including 9th at Royal Flush and 13th at Super Smash Con 2018 defeating Marss in the former and Elegant and Wrath in the latter.
	Nairo	—	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time.
	Earth	—	The only relevant Pit/Dark Pit player in competitive play and was the only Pit player ranked on the PGR.
	TLTC	Prince Ramen	While Prince Ramen has the ZeRo win, he doesn't really have anything else outside of that while TLTC has the longevity.
	MkLeo	—	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time.
	Ryo	San	The only Ike player ever ranked on the PGR and the only Ike player to place top 8 at a major (7th at MLG World Finals 2015. The latter is what really puts him over San in my opinion.
	Dath	—	His 3rd-place run at Shine 2016 is just unmatchable. Also the only Robin player ever ranked on the PGR.
	Raito	—	The only Duck Hunt player ever ranked on the PGR, even if Brood had the ZeRo win.
	Komota	MikeKirby	MikeKirby has the longevity but didn't really have much outside his region. Komota has the Ally win and the best Kirby placement at a major (25th at The Big House 8).
	zaki	—	He beat MkLeo.
	MkLeo	—	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time, though more known for Cloud and Marth he did win 2GG Championship with primarily Meta Knight.
	Larry Lurr	—	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time. Only Light really challenged his title.
	AC	Daybreak,  Keitaro	Beat 6WX with Falco and is the highest-placing Falco player at a major (25th at 2GGT: Abadango Saga). Still mainly MK though.
	ESAM	—	The only Pikachu player ranked on all PGR rankings and for some reason the only person who thinks Pikachu is top 10.
	Tosshi	Sharpyzard	Sharpyzard has more exposure and the big win at BeSmash 2016, but Tosshi's 4th at Umebura 31 defeating Nietono and Kome is the best Charizard performance of all-time, plus Tosshi has the best Charizard placement at a major (25th at Umebura Japan Major) and better wins (Ranai)
	Tsu-	—	Almost won a major (Frostbite 2017) and is the only Lucario player ranked top 50 on multiple PGR rankings.
	Arika	Captain L	Captain L has defeated top players, but is still mainly Pikachu. Conversely, Arika has the best solo-Jigglypuff performance of all-time, placing 17th at Umebura Smash 4 Final defeating takera and Masashi.
	iStudying	Lea,  Somé	Very tough, but I think iStudying edges them out thanks to the 2nd at B.E.A.S.T 6 over ESAM and win over Ally at UGC Smash Open, as well as being the only Greninja player ranked on the PGR. Can't argue if people believe in Lea or Somé.
	8BitMan	OCEAN	Also very tough, but 8BitMan was the only PGR-ranked R.O.B. player and still had good R.O.B. performances even after picking up Diddy Kong. OCEAN is just too inconsistent for me.
	FOW	—	The highest-ranking Ness player (12th on the PGR v1) and the only Ness player with multiple top 8s at majors.
	Fatality	—	The only Captain Falcon player ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
	Ranai	—	The only Villager player ranked on multiple PGR rankings, as well as the only Villager player to win a major.
	Shuton	—	The only solo-Olimar player ranked on multiple PGR rankings. Dabuz was mainly a Rosalina player at the end of the day.
	John Numbers	—	The best peaks (placed 17th at four majors) and wins (WaDi, 6WX, Zinoto) out of any Wii Fit Trainer player, and has the longevity as well.
	Kome	—	The only Shulk player ranked on the PGR.
	B7Games	2ManyCooks	Abadango win at 2GGT: Abadango Saga and placing 33rd at 2GGC: Midwest Mayhem Saga takes it for me.
	Mr E	—	Probably the only player actually successful with solo-Lucina, as most other players (such as ZeRo) only used Lucina as a secondary.
	Sinji	Tea	Tea just came too little too late in my opinion. Sinji had the longevity and the PGR rankings even if Tea had the better peaks.
	Kameme	—	The only Mega Man player ranked in the top 50 on the PGR 100.
	KEN	—	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time and the only Sonic player with a major win (Umebura S.A.T.).
	Abadango	WaDi	The only Mewtwo player with a major win (Pound 2016), though I can see arguments for WaDi due to Abadango playing Bayonetta towards the game's end as well as WaDi's win over ZeRo.
	Taiheita	—	The only Lucas player ranked on the PGR.
	Cloudy	Hyper Kirby,  TheFlow	Insane Mexican results such as 2nd at Smash Fest 3 and 9th at Smash Factor 6 defeating Kameme. Hyper Kirby has consistent majors but not as many great wins while TheFlow had a great Albion 3 but also not that many great wins (cannot verify Lima win).
	Darkshad	Locus	Tough since both have similar results, but Darkshad's ZeRo win trumps Locus's 1-place higher ranking on the PGR 100 in my opinion.
	MkLeo	Tweek	One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time who stuck with Cloud until the end while Tweek eventually began playing more Bayonetta.
	Cosmos	—	The only Corrin player to win a major (The Big House 8) and the only Corrin player ranked in the top 50 on the PGR 100.
	Salem	Tweek	Salem being a contender for #1 when ZeRo was still active, his win at EVO 2017, and being solo-Bayonetta for most of Smash 4 takes it for me.
	Dapuffster	—	Literally the only Mii Brawler player who did anything in competitive play.
	Rom	AEMehr	AEMehr has better peaks (13th at IBP Masters Showdown) but Rom has by far the better wins (Kirihara, Raito, Pugwest).
	No one plays this character

Tier List

Heavily opinionated Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List
	S			A
	1	2		3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10-11
	1	2		3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10-11
	B
	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22-23
	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22-23
B-							C
24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
	D+						D
	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49
	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49
	D-					F				Miis
	50	51	52	53		54	55			--	--	--
	50	51	52	53		54	55			--	--	--

Key

Tier	Description
S	Top
A	Top, but not S-tier Top
B	High
B-	High/Mid border
C	Mid
D+	Mid/Low border
D	Low
D	Low, but not D low
F	Bottom
Miis	Miis (Unranked)