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An archive of some of my terrible opinions from a while back.
==PGR 100 Predictions==
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|21st||{{Sm|ESAM|US}}||14th||27th||18th||21st||21st||{{head|Pikachu|g=SSB4|s=20px}}{{head|Samus|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||21st
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==Best Player of Each Character==
The only section probably worth looking at and the only section updated since I canned this page.
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|{{Head|Mario|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Ally|USA}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players best known for winning {{Trn|EVO 2016}}, the largest ''Smash 4'' event of all-time.
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|{{Head|Luigi|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Elegant|USA}}||&mdash;||The only Luigi player ranked on multiple [[PGR]] rankings.
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|{{Head|Peach|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Samsora|USA}}||&mdash;||The only Peach player who was ranked on multiple [[PGR]] rankings.
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|{{Head|Bowser|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Nairo|USA}}||{{Sm|LordMix|USA}}||Although mostly known for being a secondary, he has defeated many top players with Bowser such as {{Sm|ZeRo}}, {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Tweek}}.
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|{{Head|Yoshi|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Ron|Japan}}||{{Sm|Seth|USA}}, {{Sm|Raptor|USA}}||Tri-mains Yoshi but has the best Yoshi wins and performances, including winning {{Trn|Sumabato 18}} defeating {{Sm|Shuton}} and {{Sm|HIKARU}} with Yoshi. He is also the only Yoshi player ranked on the [[PGR 100]], ranking 57th.
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|{{Head|Rosalina|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Dabuz|USA}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players who has won six majors during ''Smash 4''{{'}}s heyday, including {{Trn|2GGC: Civil War}}, considered one of the hardest ''Smash 4'' events of all-time.
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|{{Head|Bowser Jr.|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Tweek|USA}}||&mdash;||Really the only Bowser Jr. player ever relevant in top-level competitive play, and Tweek's character switch contributed to Bowser Jr.'s drop on the tier list.
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|{{Head|Wario|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Glutonny|France}}||&mdash;||Europe's second-best player and the only Wario player ranked on the [[PGR]], ranking 70th on the [[PGR 100]].
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|{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|HIKARU|Japan}}||{{Sm|Tweek|USA}}||While Tweek has the better wins, Tweek also predominantly played Cloud and had much better performances with Cloud. On the other hand, HIKARU is a solo-DK and regularly places highly at Japanese events. He remains the only solo-Donkey Kong player to top 8 a major (doing so at {{Trn|2GGC: Civil War}}, no less).
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|{{Head|Diddy Kong|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|ZeRo|Chile}}||&mdash;||The greatest ''Smash 4'' player of all-time.
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|{{Head|Mr. Game & Watch|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Maister|Mexico}}||{{Sm|Regi|Mexico}}||The only Mr. Game & Watch player ranked on the [[PGR]], including 81st on the [[PGR 100]].
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|{{Head|Little Mac|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Tarakotori|Japan}}||{{Sm|Sol|USA}}||Tough call to make, but Tarakotori's 9th-place run at {{Trn|Umebura Smash 4 Final}} is by far the best Little Mac performance of all-time, as not only was it the highest Little Mac placed at a major, but he also defeated {{Sm|Kameme}}, {{Sm|Zackray}}, and {{Sm|takera}}. His other results are similar to Sol, as Tarakotori regularly placing top 64 at {{Trn|Umebura|series}} events and and has also defeated players like {{Sm|Eim}}, {{Sm|Kuro}}, and {{Sm|Umeki}} at notable Japanese events.
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|{{Head|Link|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|T|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only relevant Link player in top-level play (including being the only Link player ever ranked on a [[PGR]]). His rise in Japan and his run to 3rd at {{Trn|2GGC: Civil War}} was instrumental to Link's rise on the tier list.
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|{{Head|Zelda|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Rizeasu|Japan}}||{{Sm|ven|USA}}||Definitely can see this be a tossup due to Rizeasu's true main being Random, but Rizeasu has arguably the best Zelda performances of all-time, including 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato Tokaigi Qualifier 2}} and 7th at {{Trn|Sumabato 28}} defeating {{Sm|HIKARU}}, as well as wins over players such as {{Sm|Kuro}} and {{Sm|ikep}}.
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|{{Head|Sheik|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|ZeRo|Chile}}||{{Sm|Mr.R|Netherlands}}, {{Sm|VoiD|USA}}||The greatest ''Smash 4'' player of all-time who used Sheik during his prime, though longevity-wise I could see some people arguing Mr.R or VoiD.
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|{{Head|Ganondorf|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|adom|Israel}}||{{Sm|Gungnir|Japan}}, {{Sm|Rickles|USA}}||Literally could go to any of these three (or more) because the best Ganondorf players attend nothing. adom at least has a good record in Europe (9th at {{Trn|Syndicate 2017}} and {{Trn|Sweet Impact - Deflagration}} are two notable ones) and was ranked 46th in [[European Smash 4 Power Rankings|Europe]].
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|{{Head|Toon Link|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Sigma|Japan}}||{{Sm|Hyuga|Mexico}}||Only Toon Link player ranked on the [[PGR 100]] and has the best Toon Link performances, such as 4th at {{Trn|Umebura Smash 4 Final}} and many great {{Trn|Sumabato}} runs, such as winning {{Trn|Sumabato 22}}. Hyuga was ranked higher and had comparable results, especially early on, but he didn't have a career after 2016.
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|{{Head|Samus|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|IcyMist|USA}}||{{Sm|ESAM|USA}}||ESAM has the better wins with Samus (mainly {{Sm|Ally}}), but he is primarily a Pikachu player. IcyMist has achieved some of the best Samus performances with solo-Samus, such as being the queen of Wi-Fi events and great runs at majors, including 9th at {{Trn|Royal Flush}} and 13th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}} defeating {{Sm|Marss}} in the former and {{Sm|Elegant}} and {{Sm|Wrath}} in the latter.
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|{{Head|Zero Suit Samus|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Nairo|USA}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time.
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|{{Head|Pit|g=SSB4|s=20px}}{{Head|Dark Pit|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Earth|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only relevant Pit/Dark Pit player in competitive play and was the only Pit player ranked on the [[PGR]].
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|{{Head|Palutena|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|TLTC|USA}}||{{Sm|Prince Ramen|USA}}||While Prince Ramen has the {{Sm|ZeRo}} win, he doesn't really have anything else outside of that while TLTC has the longevity.
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|{{Head|Marth|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|MkLeo|Mexico}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time.
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|{{Head|Ike|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Ryo|USA}}||{{Sm|San|USA}}||The only Ike player ever ranked on the [[PGR]] and the only Ike player to place top 8 at a major (7th at {{Trn|MLG World Finals 2015}}. The latter is what really puts him over San in my opinion.
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|{{Head|Robin|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Dath|USA}}||&mdash;||His 3rd-place run at {{Trn|Shine 2016}} is just unmatchable. Also the only Robin player ever ranked on the [[PGR]].
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|{{Head|Duck Hunt|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Raito|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only Duck Hunt player ever ranked on the [[PGR]], even if {{Sm|Brood}} had the {{Sm|ZeRo}} win.
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|{{Head|Kirby|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Komota|USA}}||{{Sm|MikeKirby|USA}}||MikeKirby has the longevity but didn't really have much outside his region. Komota has the {{Sm|Ally}} win and the best Kirby placement at a major (25th at {{Trn|The Big House 8}}).
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|{{Head|King Dedede|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|zaki|Japan}}||&mdash;||He beat {{Sm|MkLeo}}.
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|{{Head|Meta Knight|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|MkLeo|Mexico}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time, though more known for Cloud and Marth he did win {{Trn|2GG Championship}} with primarily Meta Knight.
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|{{Head|Fox|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Larry Lurr|USA}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time. Only {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} really challenged his title.
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|{{Head|Falco|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|AC|USA}}||{{Sm|Daybreak|USA}}, {{Sm|Keitaro|USA}}||Beat {{Sm|6WX}} with Falco and is the highest-placing Falco player at a major (25th at {{Trn|2GGT: Abadango Saga}}). Still mainly MK though.
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|{{Head|Pikachu|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|ESAM|USA}}||&mdash;||The only Pikachu player ranked on all [[PGR]] rankings and for some reason the only person who thinks Pikachu is top 10.
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|{{Head|Charizard|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Tosshi|Japan}}||{{Sm|Sharpyzard|Dominican Republic}}||Sharpyzard has more exposure and the big win at {{Trn|BeSmash 2016}}, but Tosshi's 4th at {{Trn|Umebura 31}} defeating {{Sm|Nietono}} and {{Sm|Kome}} is the best Charizard performance of all-time, plus Tosshi has the best Charizard placement at a major (25th at {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major}}) and better wins ({{Sm|Ranai}})
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|{{Head|Lucario|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Tsu-|Japan}}||&mdash;||Almost won a major ({{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}) and is the only Lucario player ranked top 50 on multiple [[PGR]] rankings.
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|{{Head|Jigglypuff|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Arika|Japan}}||{{Sm|Captain L|Canada}}||Captain L has defeated top players, but is still mainly Pikachu. Conversely, Arika has the best solo-Jigglypuff performance of all-time, placing 17th at {{Trn|Umebura Smash 4 Final}} defeating {{Sm|takera}} and {{Sm|Masashi}}.
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|{{Head|Greninja|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|iStudying|Netherlands}}||{{Sm|Lea|Japan}}, {{Sm|Somé|Japan}}||Very tough, but I think iStudying edges them out thanks to the 2nd at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 6}} over {{Sm|ESAM}} and win over {{Sm|Ally}} at {{Trn|UGC Smash Open}}, as well as being the only Greninja player ranked on the [[PGR]]. Can't argue if people believe in Lea or Somé.
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|{{Head|ROB|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|8BitMan|USA}}||{{Sm|OCEAN|Japan}}||Also very tough, but 8BitMan was the only [[PGR]]-ranked R.O.B. player and still had good R.O.B. performances even after picking up {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}. OCEAN is just too inconsistent for me.
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|{{Head|Ness|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|FOW|USA}}||&mdash;||The highest-ranking Ness player (12th on the [[PGR v1]]) and the only Ness player with multiple top 8s at majors.
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|{{Head|Captain Falcon|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Fatality|USA}}||&mdash;||The only Captain Falcon player ranked on multiple [[PGR]] rankings.
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|{{Head|Villager|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Ranai|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only Villager player ranked on multiple [[PGR]] rankings, as well as the only Villager player to win a major.
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|{{Head|Olimar|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Shuton|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only solo-Olimar player ranked on multiple [[PGR]] rankings. Dabuz was mainly a Rosalina player at the end of the day.
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|{{Head|Wii Fit Trainer|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|John Numbers|USA}}||&mdash;||The best peaks (placed 17th at four majors) and wins ({{Sm|WaDi}}, {{Sm|6WX}}, {{Sm|Zinoto}}) out of any Wii Fit Trainer player, and has the longevity as well.
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|{{Head|Shulk|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Kome|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only Shulk player ranked on the [[PGR]].
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|{{Head|Dr. Mario|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|B7Games|USA}}||{{Sm|2ManyCooks|Canada}}||{{Sm|Abadango}} win at {{Trn|2GGT: Abadango Saga}} and placing 33rd at {{Trn|2GGC: Midwest Mayhem Saga}} takes it for me.
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|{{Head|Lucina|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Mr E|USA}}||&mdash;||Probably the only player actually successful with solo-Lucina, as most other players (such as {{Sm|ZeRo}}) only used Lucina as a secondary.
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|{{Head|Pac-Man|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Sinji|USA}}||{{Sm|Tea|Japan}}||Tea just came too little too late in my opinion. Sinji had the longevity and the [[PGR]] rankings even if Tea had the better peaks.
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|{{Head|Mega Man|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Kameme|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only Mega Man player ranked in the top 50 on the [[PGR 100]].
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|{{Head|Sonic|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|KEN|Japan}}||&mdash;||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time and the only Sonic player with a major win ({{Trn|Umebura S.A.T.}}).
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|{{Head|Mewtwo|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Abadango|Japan}}||{{Sm|WaDi|USA}}||The only Mewtwo player with a major win ({{Trn|Pound 2016}}), though I can see arguments for WaDi due to Abadango playing Bayonetta towards the game's end as well as WaDi's win over {{Sm|ZeRo}}.
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|{{Head|Lucas|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Taiheita|Japan}}||&mdash;||The only Lucas player ranked on the [[PGR]].
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|{{Head|Roy|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Cloudy|Mexico}}||{{Sm|Hyper Kirby|USA}}, {{Sm|TheFlow|France}}||Insane Mexican results such as 2nd at {{Trn|Smash Fest 3}} and 9th at {{Trn|Smash Factor 6}} defeating {{Sm|Kameme}}. Hyper Kirby has consistent majors but not as many great wins while TheFlow had a great {{Trn|Albion 3}} but also not that many great wins (cannot verify {{Sm|Lima}} win).
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|{{Head|Ryu|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Darkshad|USA}}||{{Sm|Locus|USA}}||Tough since both have similar results, but Darkshad's {{Sm|ZeRo}} win trumps Locus's 1-place higher ranking on the [[PGR 100]] in my opinion.
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|{{Head|Cloud|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|MkLeo|Mexico}}||{{Sm|Tweek|USA}}||One of the best ''Smash 4'' players of all-time who stuck with Cloud until the end while Tweek eventually began playing more Bayonetta.
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|{{Head|Corrin|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Cosmos|USA}}||&mdash;||The only Corrin player to win a major ({{Trn|The Big House 8}}) and the only Corrin player ranked in the top 50 on the [[PGR 100]].
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|{{Head|Bayonetta|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Salem|USA}}||{{Sm|Tweek|USA}}||Salem being a contender for #1 when {{Sm|ZeRo}} was still active, his win at {{Trn|EVO 2017}}, and being solo-Bayonetta for most of ''Smash 4'' takes it for me.
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|{{Head|Mii Brawler|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Dapuffster|USA}}||&mdash;||Literally the only Mii Brawler player who did anything in competitive play.
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|{{Head|Mii Gunner|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||{{Sm|Rom|Japan}}||{{Sm|AEMehr|USA}}||AEMehr has better peaks (13th at {{Trn|IBP Masters Showdown}}) but Rom has by far the better wins ({{Sm|Kirihara}}, {{Sm|Raito}}, {{Sm|Pugwest}}).
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|{{Head|Mii Swordfighter|g=SSB4|s=20px}}||colspan="4"|No one plays this character
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Latest revision as of 10:49, September 20, 2024

An archive of some of my terrible opinions from a while back.

PGR 100 Predictions[edit]

Ranking Smasher PGR 1 PGR 2 PGR 3 PGR 4 PGR 5 Character(s) Actual Placement
1st Chile ZeRo 1st 1st 1st 1st --- Diddy Kong (SSB4)Sheik (SSB4)Lucina (SSB4) 1st
2nd Mexico MkLeo 19th 8th 2nd 4th 1st Meta Knight (SSB4)Marth (SSB4)Cloud (SSB4)Bayonetta (SSB4) 3rd
3rd US Nairo 2nd 3rd 3rd 3rd 4th Zero Suit Samus (SSB4)Bowser (SSB4) 2nd
4th US Dabuz 3rd 4th 4th 6th 3rd Rosalina (SSB4)Olimar (SSB4) 4th
5th US Tweek 15th 17th 12th 6th 2nd Cloud (SSB4)Bayonetta (SSB4)Donkey Kong (SSB4) 7th
6th Netherlands Mr. R 4th 10th 9th 10th 8th Sheik (SSB4) 10th
7th US Larry Lurr 7th 5th 6th 7th 16th Fox (SSB4)Donkey Kong (SSB4) 8th
8th Japan Abadango 5th 7th 10th 15th 15th Mewtwo (SSB4)Bayonetta (SSB4)Meta Knight (SSB4) 13th
9th US Salem --- 13th 11th 2nd 5th Bayonetta (SSB4) 6th
10th US VoiD 8th 6th 13th 9th 11th Sheik (SSB4) 11th
11th Japan komorikiri 11th 12th 8th 16th 10th Cloud (SSB4)Sonic (SSB4) 12th
12th Canada Ally 6th 2nd 5th 14th 33rd Mario (SSB4) 5th
13th US CaptainZack --- 20th 7th 18th 9th Bayonetta (SSB4)Peach (SSB4) 15th
14th Japan KEN --- 19th 16th 8th 30th Sonic (SSB4) 9th
15th US ANTi 10th 9th 21st 20th 17th Mario (SSB4)Zero Suit Samus (SSB4)Cloud (SSB4) 14th
16th Japan Ranai 9th 14th 17th --- --- Villager (SSB4) 21st
17th US Marss 13th 15th 14th 19th 25th Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) 16th
18th Canada Mistake --- --- --- 13th 6th Bayonetta (SSB4)Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) 25th
19th US Cosmos --- --- --- 17th 7th Corrin (SSB4) 30th
20th US Elegant --- --- 25th 11th 18th Luigi (SSB4) 27th
21st US ESAM 14th 27th 18th 21st 21st Pikachu (SSB4)Samus (SSB4) 17th
22nd US Lima --- --- --- 24th 19th Bayonetta (SSB4) 20th
23rd US Samsora --- 29th 24th 22nd 12th Peach (SSB4)Rosalina (SSB4) 22nd
24th US WaDi --- 21st 46th 12th 22nd Mewtwo (SSB4)ROB (SSB4) 26th
25th US Fatality 41st 28th 15th 38th 14th Captain Falcon (SSB4) 19th
26th US Zinoto 23rd 16th 20th 31st 28th Diddy Kong (SSB4) 24th
27th Japan Kameme --- 11th 27th 44th 24th Mega Man (SSB4)Sheik (SSB4) 18th
28th Japan Shuton --- --- 33rd 27th 26th Olimar (SSB4)Shulk (SSB4) 23rd
29th Japan Raito --- --- 34th 32nd 23rd Duck Hunt (SSB4) 38th
30th US MVD 21st 47th 29th 25th 31st Diddy Kong (SSB4) 31st
31st US Mr.E --- 18th 30th 28th --- Lucina (SSB4)Marth (SSB4) 37th
32nd Japan Kirihara --- 48th 19th 29th 50th Rosalina (SSB4) 28th
33rd Japan Choco --- --- 49th 36th 32nd Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) 35th
34th US falln 40th 33rd 28th 41st 20th Rosalina (SSB4) 29th
35th US Vinnie 18th 35th --- 46th 34th Sheik (SSB4)Rosalina (SSB4) 36th
36th Japan Tsu- --- --- 26th 34th 46th Lucario (SSB4)Ryu (SSB4) 32nd
37th US Manny 31st --- 40th 23rd 51st Sonic (SSB4) 39th
38th US Wrath --- 43rd 51st -- 29th Sonic (SSB4) 59th
39th US 6WX 20th 30th 31st 43rd 47th Sonic (SSB4) 34th
40th Japan Nietono 32nd 36th 43rd --- 37th Sheik (SSB4)Diddy Kong (SSB4) 33rd
41st US Light --- --- --- 47th 13th Fox (SSB4) 43rd
42nd US NAKAT 34th --- 42nd 33rd --- Fox (SSB4)Ness (SSB4) 49th
43rd US Ned --- 50th 37th --- 42nd Cloud (SSB4) 50th
44th US Zenyou --- --- --- 49th 43rd Mario (SSB4) 61st
45th Japan 9B 17th --- 23rd --- --- Bayonetta (SSB4) 44th
46th US Tyrant 22nd 34th 51st --- --- Meta Knight (SSB4)Sheik (SSB4)Diddy Kong (SSB4) 64th
47th Japan Earth 33rd 25th 35th --- --- Pit (SSB4)Corrin (SSB4) 42nd
48th US JK --- --- 48th 37th --- Bayonetta (SSB4) ---
49th US FOW 12th --- 50th --- --- Ness (SSB4) 56th
50th US Mew2King 28th 26th --- --- --- Cloud (SSB4) 69th
51st US AC --- --- 45th 50th 38th Meta Knight (SSB4)Falco (SSB4) 47th
52nd US Darkshad --- 44th --- 26th 45th Ryu (SSB4) 41st
53rd Canada Locus --- 45th 22nd 51st 49th Ryu (SSB4) 40th
54th US tyroy --- --- --- 40th 39th Bayonetta (SSB4)Meta Knight (SSB4) 55th
55th US Pink Fresh 30th 24th --- --- --- Bayonetta (SSB4)Lucas (SSB4) 60th
56th US ScAtt 43rd 31st 41st --- --- Mega Man (SSB4) 51st
57th US Shoyo James --- --- 51st 42nd 35th Diddy Kong (SSB4)Luigi (SSB4) 54th
58th US Sinji --- --- --- --- 48th Pac Man (SSB4) 85th
59th US False 35th 41st --- --- --- Sheik (SSB4) 73rd
60th US Trela 25th 42nd 51st --- --- Ryu (SSB4) 65th
61st US SDX --- --- --- --- 27th Mewtwo (SSB4) 45th
62nd Japan T --- --- 32nd --- --- Link (SSB4) 46th
63rd Mexico Hyuga 24th 22nd --- --- --- Toon Link (SSB4) ---
64th US dyr --- 37th --- 39th --- Diddy Kong (SSB4) 53rd
65th US Charlie --- --- --- 35th --- Fox (SSB4)Bayonetta (SSB4) 67th
66th Japan HIKARU --- --- 36th --- --- Donkey Kong (SSB4) 48th
67th Mexico Javi --- --- 44th 51st --- Sheik (SSB4)Cloud (SSB4) 74th
68th Mexico Maister --- --- --- --- 44th Mr. Game & Watch (SSB4) 81st
69th Canada Captain L --- --- --- --- 36th Pikachu (SSB4)Jigglypuff (SSB4) 79th
70th Canada SuperGirlKels --- --- --- --- --- Sonic (SSB4) 100th
71st US K9sbruce 27th --- 51st 48th --- Diddy Kong (SSB4)Sheik (SSB4) 62nd
72nd US Saj --- 40th --- --- --- Bayonetta (SSB4) ---
73rd US Rich Brown --- 23rd 38th --- --- Mewtwo (SSB4) 52nd
74th US Ryo 45th 46th --- --- --- Ike (SSB4)Roy (SSB4) 77th
75th Japan shky --- --- --- --- 41st Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) ---
76th Canada Blacktwins --- --- --- --- --- Mario (SSB4)Cloud (SSB4) ---
77th US Ralphie --- --- --- --- --- Cloud (SSB4) ---
78th Japan Ito 37th --- --- --- --- Meta Knight (SSB4) ---
79th US Pugwest --- 39th --- --- --- Marth (SSB4) 91st
80th Japan Gackt --- --- --- --- --- Ness (SSB4) ---
81st Japan Taiheita --- 49th --- --- --- Lucas (SSB4) 58th
82nd US Megafox 34th --- --- --- --- Fox (SSB4) ---
83rd US The Great Gonzales --- --- --- --- --- Ness (SSB4)Bayonetta (SSB4) ---
84th US Dath --- 32nd --- --- --- Robin (SSB4) ---
85th US Day --- 38th --- --- --- Lucario (SSB4) 80th
86th Mexico Regi --- --- --- --- --- Mr. Game & Watch (SSB4) ---
87th US 8BitMan 47th --- --- --- --- ROB (SSB4)Diddy Kong (SSB4) ---
88th US Rags --- --- --- --- 40th Meta Knight (SSB4) 87th
89th US Ryuga --- --- --- 45th --- Corrin (SSB4)Ike (SSB4) 86th
90th Netherlands iStudying 42nd --- --- --- --- Greninja (SSB4) ---
91st US Myran --- --- 39th --- --- Olimar (SSB4) ---
92nd France Glutonny --- --- --- --- --- Wario (SSB4) 70th
93rd US Angel Cortes 38th --- --- --- --- Diddy Kong (SSB4) ---
94th US Mr. ConCon 36th --- --- --- --- Luigi (SSB4) ---
95th US Xzax 39th --- --- --- --- Fox (SSB4) 92nd
96th Japan Kome --- --- --- --- 51st Shulk (SSB4) 84th
97th Japan RAIN 26th --- --- --- --- Sheik (SSB4) 66th
98th US BestNess --- --- --- --- --- Ness (SSB4) ---
99th Japan Ron --- --- --- --- --- Mario (SSB4)Luigi (SSB4)Yoshi (SSB4) 57th
100th US Seagull Joe 48th --- --- --- --- Sonic (SSB4) ---

Hidden Bosses[edit]

() denotes actual results.

Best Player of Each Character[edit]

The only section probably worth looking at and the only section updated since I canned this page.

Character Player Other candidates Reason
Mario (SSB4) USA Ally — One of the best Smash 4 players best known for winning EVO 2016, the largest Smash 4 event of all-time.
Luigi (SSB4) USA Elegant — The only Luigi player ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
Peach (SSB4) USA Samsora — The only Peach player who was ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
Bowser (SSB4) USA Nairo USA LordMix Although mostly known for being a secondary, he has defeated many top players with Bowser such as ZeRo, MkLeo, Tweek.
Yoshi (SSB4) Japan Ron USA Seth, USA Raptor Tri-mains Yoshi but has the best Yoshi wins and performances, including winning Sumabato 18 defeating Shuton and HIKARU with Yoshi. He is also the only Yoshi player ranked on the PGR 100, ranking 57th.
Rosalina (SSB4) USA Dabuz — One of the best Smash 4 players who has won six majors during Smash 4's heyday, including 2GGC: Civil War, considered one of the hardest Smash 4 events of all-time.
Bowser Jr. (SSB4) USA Tweek — Really the only Bowser Jr. player ever relevant in top-level competitive play, and Tweek's character switch contributed to Bowser Jr.'s drop on the tier list.
Wario (SSB4) France Glutonny — Europe's second-best player and the only Wario player ranked on the PGR, ranking 70th on the PGR 100.
Donkey Kong (SSB4) Japan HIKARU USA Tweek While Tweek has the better wins, Tweek also predominantly played Cloud and had much better performances with Cloud. On the other hand, HIKARU is a solo-DK and regularly places highly at Japanese events. He remains the only solo-Donkey Kong player to top 8 a major (doing so at 2GGC: Civil War, no less).
Diddy Kong (SSB4) Chile ZeRo — The greatest Smash 4 player of all-time.
Mr. Game & Watch (SSB4) Mexico Maister Mexico Regi The only Mr. Game & Watch player ranked on the PGR, including 81st on the PGR 100.
Little Mac (SSB4) Japan Tarakotori USA Sol Tough call to make, but Tarakotori's 9th-place run at Umebura Smash 4 Final is by far the best Little Mac performance of all-time, as not only was it the highest Little Mac placed at a major, but he also defeated Kameme, Zackray, and takera. His other results are similar to Sol, as Tarakotori regularly placing top 64 at Umebura events and and has also defeated players like Eim, Kuro, and Umeki at notable Japanese events.
Link (SSB4) Japan T — The only relevant Link player in top-level play (including being the only Link player ever ranked on a PGR). His rise in Japan and his run to 3rd at 2GGC: Civil War was instrumental to Link's rise on the tier list.
Zelda (SSB4) Japan Rizeasu USA ven Definitely can see this be a tossup due to Rizeasu's true main being Random, but Rizeasu has arguably the best Zelda performances of all-time, including 2nd at Sumabato Tokaigi Qualifier 2 and 7th at Sumabato 28 defeating HIKARU, as well as wins over players such as Kuro and ikep.
Sheik (SSB4) Chile ZeRo Netherlands Mr.R, USA VoiD The greatest Smash 4 player of all-time who used Sheik during his prime, though longevity-wise I could see some people arguing Mr.R or VoiD.
Ganondorf (SSB4) Israel adom Japan Gungnir, USA Rickles Literally could go to any of these three (or more) because the best Ganondorf players attend nothing. adom at least has a good record in Europe (9th at Syndicate 2017 and Sweet Impact - Deflagration are two notable ones) and was ranked 46th in Europe.
Toon Link (SSB4) Japan Sigma Mexico Hyuga Only Toon Link player ranked on the PGR 100 and has the best Toon Link performances, such as 4th at Umebura Smash 4 Final and many great Sumabato runs, such as winning Sumabato 22. Hyuga was ranked higher and had comparable results, especially early on, but he didn't have a career after 2016.
Samus (SSB4) USA IcyMist USA ESAM ESAM has the better wins with Samus (mainly Ally), but he is primarily a Pikachu player. IcyMist has achieved some of the best Samus performances with solo-Samus, such as being the queen of Wi-Fi events and great runs at majors, including 9th at Royal Flush and 13th at Super Smash Con 2018 defeating Marss in the former and Elegant and Wrath in the latter.
Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) USA Nairo — One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time.
Pit (SSB4)Dark Pit (SSB4) Japan Earth — The only relevant Pit/Dark Pit player in competitive play and was the only Pit player ranked on the PGR.
Palutena (SSB4) USA TLTC USA Prince Ramen While Prince Ramen has the ZeRo win, he doesn't really have anything else outside of that while TLTC has the longevity.
Marth (SSB4) Mexico MkLeo — One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time.
Ike (SSB4) USA Ryo USA San The only Ike player ever ranked on the PGR and the only Ike player to place top 8 at a major (7th at MLG World Finals 2015. The latter is what really puts him over San in my opinion.
Robin (SSB4) USA Dath — His 3rd-place run at Shine 2016 is just unmatchable. Also the only Robin player ever ranked on the PGR.
Duck Hunt (SSB4) Japan Raito — The only Duck Hunt player ever ranked on the PGR, even if Brood had the ZeRo win.
Kirby (SSB4) USA Komota USA MikeKirby MikeKirby has the longevity but didn't really have much outside his region. Komota has the Ally win and the best Kirby placement at a major (25th at The Big House 8).
King Dedede (SSB4) Japan zaki — He beat MkLeo.
Meta Knight (SSB4) Mexico MkLeo — One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time, though more known for Cloud and Marth he did win 2GG Championship with primarily Meta Knight.
Fox (SSB4) USA Larry Lurr — One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time. Only Light really challenged his title.
Falco (SSB4) USA AC USA Daybreak, USA Keitaro Beat 6WX with Falco and is the highest-placing Falco player at a major (25th at 2GGT: Abadango Saga). Still mainly MK though.
Pikachu (SSB4) USA ESAM — The only Pikachu player ranked on all PGR rankings and for some reason the only person who thinks Pikachu is top 10.
Charizard (SSB4) Japan Tosshi Dominican Republic Sharpyzard Sharpyzard has more exposure and the big win at BeSmash 2016, but Tosshi's 4th at Umebura 31 defeating Nietono and Kome is the best Charizard performance of all-time, plus Tosshi has the best Charizard placement at a major (25th at Umebura Japan Major) and better wins (Ranai)
Lucario (SSB4) Japan Tsu- — Almost won a major (Frostbite 2017) and is the only Lucario player ranked top 50 on multiple PGR rankings.
Jigglypuff (SSB4) Japan Arika Canada Captain L Captain L has defeated top players, but is still mainly Pikachu. Conversely, Arika has the best solo-Jigglypuff performance of all-time, placing 17th at Umebura Smash 4 Final defeating takera and Masashi.
Greninja (SSB4) Netherlands iStudying Japan Lea, Japan Somé Very tough, but I think iStudying edges them out thanks to the 2nd at B.E.A.S.T 6 over ESAM and win over Ally at UGC Smash Open, as well as being the only Greninja player ranked on the PGR. Can't argue if people believe in Lea or Somé.
ROB (SSB4) USA 8BitMan Japan OCEAN Also very tough, but 8BitMan was the only PGR-ranked R.O.B. player and still had good R.O.B. performances even after picking up Diddy Kong. OCEAN is just too inconsistent for me.
Ness (SSB4) USA FOW — The highest-ranking Ness player (12th on the PGR v1) and the only Ness player with multiple top 8s at majors.
Captain Falcon (SSB4) USA Fatality — The only Captain Falcon player ranked on multiple PGR rankings.
Villager (SSB4) Japan Ranai — The only Villager player ranked on multiple PGR rankings, as well as the only Villager player to win a major.
Olimar (SSB4) Japan Shuton — The only solo-Olimar player ranked on multiple PGR rankings. Dabuz was mainly a Rosalina player at the end of the day.
Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4) USA John Numbers — The best peaks (placed 17th at four majors) and wins (WaDi, 6WX, Zinoto) out of any Wii Fit Trainer player, and has the longevity as well.
Shulk (SSB4) Japan Kome — The only Shulk player ranked on the PGR.
Dr. Mario (SSB4) USA B7Games Canada 2ManyCooks Abadango win at 2GGT: Abadango Saga and placing 33rd at 2GGC: Midwest Mayhem Saga takes it for me.
Lucina (SSB4) USA Mr E — Probably the only player actually successful with solo-Lucina, as most other players (such as ZeRo) only used Lucina as a secondary.
Pac-Man (SSB4) USA Sinji Japan Tea Tea just came too little too late in my opinion. Sinji had the longevity and the PGR rankings even if Tea had the better peaks.
Mega Man (SSB4) Japan Kameme — The only Mega Man player ranked in the top 50 on the PGR 100.
Sonic (SSB4) Japan KEN — One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time and the only Sonic player with a major win (Umebura S.A.T.).
Mewtwo (SSB4) Japan Abadango USA WaDi The only Mewtwo player with a major win (Pound 2016), though I can see arguments for WaDi due to Abadango playing Bayonetta towards the game's end as well as WaDi's win over ZeRo.
Lucas (SSB4) Japan Taiheita — The only Lucas player ranked on the PGR.
Roy (SSB4) Mexico Cloudy USA Hyper Kirby, France TheFlow Insane Mexican results such as 2nd at Smash Fest 3 and 9th at Smash Factor 6 defeating Kameme. Hyper Kirby has consistent majors but not as many great wins while TheFlow had a great Albion 3 but also not that many great wins (cannot verify Lima win).
Ryu (SSB4) USA Darkshad USA Locus Tough since both have similar results, but Darkshad's ZeRo win trumps Locus's 1-place higher ranking on the PGR 100 in my opinion.
Cloud (SSB4) Mexico MkLeo USA Tweek One of the best Smash 4 players of all-time who stuck with Cloud until the end while Tweek eventually began playing more Bayonetta.
Corrin (SSB4) USA Cosmos — The only Corrin player to win a major (The Big House 8) and the only Corrin player ranked in the top 50 on the PGR 100.
Bayonetta (SSB4) USA Salem USA Tweek Salem being a contender for #1 when ZeRo was still active, his win at EVO 2017, and being solo-Bayonetta for most of Smash 4 takes it for me.
Mii Brawler (SSB4) USA Dapuffster — Literally the only Mii Brawler player who did anything in competitive play.
Mii Gunner (SSB4) Japan Rom USA AEMehr AEMehr has better peaks (13th at IBP Masters Showdown) but Rom has by far the better wins (Kirihara, Raito, Pugwest).
Mii Swordfighter (SSB4) No one plays this character

Tier List[edit]

Heavily opinionated Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List
S A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10-11
Bayonetta (SSB4) Cloud (SSB4) Rosalina (SSB4) Fox (SSB4) Sonic (SSB4) Sheik (SSB4) Diddy Kong (SSB4) Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) Mewtwo (SSB4) Marth (SSB4) Lucina (SSB4)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10-11
B
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22-23
Mario (SSB4) Corrin (SSB4) Ryu (SSB4) Luigi (SSB4) Pikachu (SSB4) Peach (SSB4) Meta Knight (SSB4) Captain Falcon (SSB4) Duck Hunt (SSB4) Lucario (SSB4) Donkey Kong (SSB4) Bowser (SSB4)
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22-23
B- C
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
Olimar (SSB4) Mega Man (SSB4) Toon Link (SSB4) Villager (SSB4) Ness (SSB4) Link (SSB4) Samus (SSB4) Greninja (SSB4) Mr. Game & Watch (SSB4) Lucas (SSB4) Shulk (SSB4) Robin (SSB4) Pac-Man (SSB4) ROB (SSB4)
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
D+ D
38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49
Yoshi (SSB4) Pit (SSB4) Wario (SSB4) Ike (SSB4) Roy (SSB4) Falco (SSB4) Charizard (SSB4) Palutena (SSB4) Zelda (SSB4) Dark Pit (SSB4) Little Mac (SSB4) Jigglypuff (SSB4)
38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49
D- F Miis
50 51 52 53 54 55 -- -- --
Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4) King Dedede (SSB4) Kirby (SSB4) Bowser Jr. (SSB4) Dr. Mario (SSB4) Ganondorf (SSB4) Mii Gunner (SSB4) Mii Swordfighter (SSB4) Mii Brawler (SSB4)
50 51 52 53 54 55 -- -- --

Key

Tier Description
S Top
A Top, but not S-tier Top
B High
B- High/Mid border
C Mid
D+ Mid/Low border
D Low
D Low, but not D low
F Bottom
Miis Miis (Unranked)
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