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Round 96: Gulpin vs. Munchlax

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 Winner!!
Gulpin
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31.5 to 6
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The two Pokémon from Brawl that seem to eat quite a lot. Which has a bigger taste for victory?

Votes for Gulpin

  1. This thing does damage! --66.222.171.225 22:22, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. Least it helps. MegaTron1XD:p 22:28, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. This one doesn't stick around for far too long and interrupt me when I attempt to get snapshots involving pokeball pokemon. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:29, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. Gulpin is cute and useful, two qualities Munchlax lacks. Squishyfrog Chat 22:34, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  5. What does Munchlax do exactly? DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 22:35, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. Gulphin does damage to the opponent. What does Munchlax do? Eat items. How useful. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 22:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
  7. Munchlax is so annoying, eating every item it can find. Gulpin is annoying for your opponent, but is very satisfying for you. Heh heh... Mastersword (talk) 01:39, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  8. All Munchlax does is eat items while Gulpin eats peoples i believe which makes him more useful Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  9. Oh Munchlax, how I hate you so. Dornob (talk) 02:06, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  10. More useful. ..... Talk to me. LinkHeadSSBB.png Y 02:20, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  11. Munchlax eats items. How useful... Gulpin eats opponents. That's useful! --85.250.163.48 03:00, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  12. About to grab assist trophy. Munchlax eats it. Fu- ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:33, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  13. It does DAMAGE, unlike Munchlax. When I'm playing Brawl and I see Munchlax, he almost never does something :/--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:16, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  14. Trapping opponents in Gulpin and spamming down-smashes is so effective! Munchlax... isn't. ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 07:48, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  15. Yay, my fight is up! Anyway, I remember what Solar Dragon said when this was in the Suggestions. "Eat my assist trophy you little..." --107.5.57.137 07:53, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  16. Gulpin does something useful: Swallows, allowing rack up damage opportunities. Munchlax just walks for a long time eating items (which is very annoying when i want to get a useful item and then he EATS it!) Gulpin FTW. Zeldasmash (talk) 09:33, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  17. I like gulpin because while it is swallowing and inflicting damage you can use falcon punches to add even more damage.I always play as captain falcon in traning and try that !!!! Real help:)98.116.118.143 09:37, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  18. As a Pokemon I hate Gulpin, but it is definitely more useful than Munchlax in Brawl. 110.174.90.69 09:38, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  19. With gulpin chewing my opponent, i can down smash (With Lucas of course) my opponent lots of time, and the damage buildup will be massive unlike munchlax that eat the assist trophy and stickers i'm after >:D Lucas-IV-PK LoveLucas alive.PNG 10:48, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  20. Only because he evolves into Swalot..... Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 11:06, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  21. Yeah..... 67.173.145.76 11:40, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  22. Munchlax is not good for anything, considering I use nothing but Pokeballs in brawls from time to time. Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 13:42, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  23. Generation 3 is underrated. Besides, Munchlax does so little that for a while I didn't know he even did anything.--174.59.4.202 14:00, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  24. Nostalgia, I remember when I first caught one in Sapphire, evolved it, and thought I was the only trainer in Hoenn with a Swalot. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 19:08, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
  25. YES, A RAY GUN! *nomnomnom* D: Need I say more? -Ivy73002MS.png 18:45, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
  26. I LIKE ITEMS StoneSteal PeachHeadSSBB.png 21:38, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
  27. I was going to vote for Munchlax cause Gulpin is ugly, but I can never forgive the bear/rabid fox/cookie monster/thing for eating every freaking item that appears. Takava (talk) 01:42, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
  28. Does Damage Cherrim98 (talk) 12:23, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
  29. When he evolves he gets a cool mustache. Munchlax is just fatter. HavocReaper 12:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Half-Votes

  1. Glupin is pretty awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by EarthLucario29 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like Mucnhlax Better (Snorlax FTW) But in terms of brawl usefulness, Gulpin takes this one with flying colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.23.151 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. I've glitched Brawl with Weavile and Gulpin causing a OHKO on a Metaknight. That's enough to convince me. 25T16 MarioHeadSSBB.png Talk to me! 19:46, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. Munchlax is entirely useless. At least Gulpin's useful!
  5. Gulpin is a cool pokemon—Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.59.149 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Munchlax

  1. Munchlax is awesome, I don't care if it doesn't do anything useful :D Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 09:56, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. He appears more than Gulpin when I play, so Vote #2 for Munchlax, even though Gulpin is going to win. Forbidden7Lucas.png PK AWESOME! 10:16, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. I pity da foo. 68.174.11.29 16:59, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. Muchlax is win. MtnDewholic 9000File:PokemonSymbol.png 18:58, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
  5. Munch munch munch munch!!!!!!!!!!!!--68.197.115.28 13:19, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. "Oh look a Home-Run Bat!" (munch) - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Well this is somewhat one-sided. Gulpin already has 12 votes and Munchlax has absolutely none! --81.158.119.48 05:00, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

Could this be the first unanimous poll on the wiki? I don't want to see any sympathy votes! ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 08:51, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

Uhh...no. Look here.--107.5.57.137 09:00, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
Oh, never mind then. Still, this forum wasn't nearly as popular back then, and if I was registered, I would have actually voted for Ganondorf! (Not sympathetically, Warlock Punch antics) I'm hoping for another, though! ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 09:34, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

@Vote 23 - Munchlax is from Generation 3. Ever played Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness on Gamecube? --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 15:18, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

Appearing in a Generation 3 game doesn't make it a Generation 3 Pokémon. Plenty of Pokémon cameo in the anime before their official debuts, and the XD appearance was just another one of those - a cameo. You can't actually use Munchlax in XD. Flicky (talk) 18:21, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
I think it was in Generation 4. ..... Battlecruiser operational. FoxHeadSSBB.png PK contribution 12:38, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Munchlax is a Gen IV Pokemon, but the anime introduced it while Gen III was still underway. Ruby & Sapphire did not have any data for Munchlax, and so could not be used in the games (or playability in the spinoffs, as they could sometimes connect with the main games), but as the Pokemon undeniably existed, Game Freak thought Munchlax might as well have had some cameos, such as its appearances in XD and Dash. The same thing happened with Lucario, Bonsly, maybe Mime Jr. and Weavile. ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 13:17, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Round 97: Falco (SSBM) vs. Falco (SSBB)

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 Winner!!
Falco (SSBB)
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9 to 29
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Out of the clones from Melee, Falco's had arguably the most changes for Brawl; yet he remains near the top of the tier list in both games. Which incarnation is more liked?

Votes for Falco (SSBM)

  1. While it's good too see Falco not being an entire copy of Fox, and while it is great to experience his sensitivity on bread, I like Falco better in Melee (mainly because I like all characters better in Melee) Smiddle 君怒る? 17:33, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like both, but I vote for Falco's SSBM counterpart because his old Reflector is better, and he has better combos. Hawk 21 (talk) 17:35, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. Reflector is better, better combos, though he is a clone, its' better for him to be a clone than for him to suck. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 18:49, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. I'm pretty sure that Melee is better than Brawl in every way competitively. But don't get me wrong, I like Brawl more.25T16 MarioHeadSSBB.png Talk to me! 20:05, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  5. Meh. Do I need a reason? --174.59.4.202 09:43, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. Brawl is more popular, but never better. Doomolish (talk) 21:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
  7. Reflector was alot more useful in Melee. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. I prefer the Falco that looks more like he did in Star Fox 64. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 15:58, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. Permanent reflector for the win. 173.81.235.230 13:59, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Falco (SSBB)

  1. --66.222.171.225 17:31, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. "Hands of my bread." That is enough to vote for Brawl Falco.BlindcoloursFile:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER 17:31, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. Falco was just a clone in Melee, and that was the only reason he was high tier. Here, he is top tier in his own right. Besides, Melee sucks. Mr. Anon (talk) 17:37, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. Hands of my prey! and better attacks. Plus Brawl is better than Melee.Cherrim98 (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2011 (EDT)--
  5. He looks funnier and slightly more higher tier, I think. ..... Battlecruiser operational. FoxHeadSSBB.png Falcon Punch! 18:32, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. If Melee Falco fell sany faster, he'd beat Stone Kirby to the ground. Flap your wings, birdbrain, breadhead etc ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 18:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  7. To me, this version feels easier to pick up and play than Melee. Dornob (talk) 19:30, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  8. Easier to use than in Melee. Zeldasmash (talk) 20:04, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  9. Falco isn't a complete clone of Fox in Brawl. 110.174.90.69 22:31, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
  10. I like Falco's appearance (as in his model) in Brawl better then in Melee.--81.158.119.48 02:31, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  11. Falco Cw11cw 02:59, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  12. hands off mah bread!>:D Lucas-IV-PK LoveLucas alive.PNG 04:51, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  13. 3 words: SECOND. BRAWL. MAIN. And I don't play Melee.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:11, 30
  14. Falco is so much better in Brawl than in Melee But I've played all the Smash Bros. games!EarthLucario29 (talk) 09:49, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  15. ... ... "Hands Off Mah Prey! ... ... StoneSteal PeachHeadSSBB.png 01:17, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
  16. No clone in Brawl, duh. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 11:57, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  17. has much much better attacks and graphics
  18. Ugh. I have a hard time deciding, but in the end, I realize I only have Brawl. Plus, he has much more funnier quotes. --107.5.57.137 13:39, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  19. "You're off your game, hun!" Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 14:16, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  20. I never played Melee. so im voting for him thru brawl --SmashPics404 (talk) 20:41, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
  21. Because I like kittens Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 08:40, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
  22. Bread and whatnot. HavocReaper 15:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
  23. I played Brawl, not Melee. 68.174.11.29 14:42, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
  24. "Personally, I prefer WEEKENDS" - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
  25. he says funny stuffFloor2000x (talk) 17:34, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
  26. Generic meme phrase ergo invoking that I like Falco (SSBB)-Ivy73002MS.png 17:36, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
  27. Piece of cake. Squishyfrog Chat 13:54, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
  28. Simply because that high-tech gadget on his face reminds me of the Power Scouters from Dragon Ball Z. Rei'Demon 15:22, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. I dunno about Melee, but Falco is awesome in SSBB.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.89.89 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. More Detail. Bread! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fib12 (talk • contribs) 13:41, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Now we just need a Marth (SSBM) VS Marth (SSBB). 66.222.171.225 17:38, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Put up before, and failed before. --107.5.57.137 13:56, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Why Falco? Why not Mario or Link? Cherrim98 (talk) 17:43, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Exactly. We might as well have Mario vs. Mario vs. Mario if we have this fight. Worst fight seen on the SA. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:11, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Wow. I really didn't think this would turn up. I refuse to vote in this fight, as I said in my Suggestions opposition. Fighting yourself, just stupid. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:00, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

This fight was chosen because it had high support from the community; I myself was rather nonplussed with it, but the voters wanted it, so here it is. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Different 18:15, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
This looks like a time paradox. I'm just saying. Is this comment trouble? ..... Battlecruiser operational. FoxHeadSSBB.png Falcon Punch! 22:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Its hands of my prey not bread.Cherrim98 (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

We know. It's a joke. BlindcoloursFile:EarthboundSymbol.pngYOUR WINNER 15:15, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

@174.59.4.202 Judging by the vote ratio, perhaps you do. ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 16:30, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Okay. In that case, my vote's a pity vote. --174.59.4.202 16:48, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
I don't think giving a reason is necessary, but it at least support the character you voted for...... Battlecruiser operational. FoxHeadSSBB.png Falcon Punch! 16:53, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
In all honesty, I could care less who wins, it's the same person. I just wanted to participate. --174.59.4.202 20:31, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

I refuse to vote. This just doesn't make sense. I think it's supposed to be two DIFFERENT characters. It's still the same character, he just got played around with. Mastersword (talk) 19:01, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

@Mesuxelf: How did your like of kittens make you vote for SSBB's Falco? Not that I'm criticizing it or anything, just wanna know. --107.5.57.137 19:41, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Kittens Cherrim98 (talk) 08:54, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

?:( I have 0 idea what you're trying to say. --107.5.57.137 11:29, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

@Rei'Demon I believe that would be a headset, for talking to Fox, Slippy, Peppy, ROB64 & Krystal with. ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 16:00, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, I know, but the fact that it also has a little window that comes out (as seen in Fox's introduction) makes the similarity all the more obvious to me. ReiDemon 16:39, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

Error, I voted for SSBB Falco because I liked his appearance better but my signature has somehow been moved down to the vote below it, leaving my vote without any signature and the one below it incorrectly signed under my IP, can someone fix this? --81.158.119.48 07:21, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

Round 98: Mario Circuit vs. Port Town Aero Dive

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 Winner!!
Port Town Aero Dive
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9 to 21.5
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Two race course-themed stages from Brawl, representing two different styles of racing, are now facing off. Will it be the static stage with slow Shy Guys, or the fast-moving F-Zero machines?

Votes for Mario Circuit

  1. Shy Guys can be kicked the hell outta the arena. Port Town? WE get kicked the hell outta the arena Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 08:40, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Easier to fight on. BlindcoloursWho ARE YOU running from!?!? 10:44, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Mario Kart is just another series of games I play. Those F-Zero racers can and will take players out in a heartbeat; Shy Guys, not so much. Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 11:40, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. 66.222.171.225 12:57, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. Shy Guys + Excitetruck music = WIN! --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 16:03, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Mario ftw :D o.O Lucas-IV- Nwehehehehe meLucas alive.PNG 02:46, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. The other stage is lame. 67.173.145.76 14:06, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. I like destroying the racecars here. Mr. Anon (talk) 16:24, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. Mario kart- nintendo's best racing game! --85.250.185.17 07:57, 8 August 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Port Town Aero Dive

  1. CPU's have bad AI on this stage. XD--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 08:36, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Why do you think I vote for this? Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 08:40, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. F-Zero racer hits a character. Character is Star KOd. Although I like Mario Circuit more, I can kick the opponent's rears more on this stage. FTW --107.5.57.137 09:03, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Every time i vs C. Falcon in classic mode, the cars save my life Cherrim98 (talk) 09:09, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. More chaotic = More fun - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 10:16, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Because it's also one of my favourite stages in F-Zero GX. Oh, and "Dream Chaser" is probably the best song in the game. ReiDemon 10:23, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. I like both stages but Port Town changes so brawls end up being more interesting. 110.174.90.69 11:00, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. Um, duh? DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 11:09, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. I like it because the scenery always changes, giving some variety, and because it has a lower blast line. But simply having anything to do with Captain Falcon is enough for me. 25T16 MarioHeadSSBB.pngLinkHeadSSBB.pngFoxHeadSSBB.pngSnakeHeadSSBB.png It's-a me! 11:28, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  10. Mario Circuit looks nicer, but I prefer any aerial stage to a grounded stage with only a few exceptions (Norfair & Temple). I like the Mario Circuit stage itself more, but I like playing in Port Town Aero Dive more. ToastUltimatum OlimarHeadSSBB.pngComplaints Box 11:57, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  11. This stage, while much more dangerous, has no walkoffs, is more interesting and more fun to play on, and has some sort of competitive viability. Also, it has some of the best music in Brawl, compared to the mediocre music on Mario Circuit. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:23, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  12. F-Zero X music. That's all you need to know.-Ivy73002MS.png 13:29, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  13. umm... yeah. ..... The Google FoxHeadSSBB.png + 14:28, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  14. While I do prefer Mario Kart games, Port Town Aero drive has this theme remnant of street racing games and its music is more fitting. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 15:03, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  15. I like all 6 Mario Kart games better then the actual Mario series. But unlike Mario Circuit, Port Town Aero Dive has a lower blast line and no walk-off blast lines and is generally more fun to play on. --81.158.119.48 15:17, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  16. Yeah, Port Town's more fun. One my favorite stages. --174.59.4.202 17:47, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  17. Honestly, even though this stage has those evil racers, it at least has pits, which makes meteor smashs and such actually useful. Dornob (talk) 17:59, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  18. A lot more fun and a lot more exciting. Mario Circuit's Shy Guys are too s l o w... Mastersword (talk) 19:09, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
  19. This stage is the home stage of the guy who shouts FALCON PAWNCH!! Need I say more? Squishyfrog Chat 12:59, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
  20. One word: Not lame. Smiddle 君怒る? 13:04, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
  21. James<3 (talk) 16:53, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. I Think this stage is PRETTY Slow but I pick it! EarthLucario29

Comments

And Port Down Aero Drive takes the early lead - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 10:17, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

Read rule #7, and do not make pointless comments like this. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:14, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

This was a really close one for me. I like Mario Circuit, because Shy Guys + CPU's = Mayhem, but the lower blast line in Port Town helps me because meteor smashing is Mario's only reliable finisher at even around 120% Damage. 25T16 MarioHeadSSBB.pngLinkHeadSSBB.pngFoxHeadSSBB.pngSnakeHeadSSBB.png It's-a me! 11:32, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

This doesn't make sense. You guys complain about the half-a-second-to-escape rivers in Jungle Japes but the OHKO F-Zero racers are absolutely fine? --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Read rule #7, and last time I checked, KOing above 50% is not an OHKO in any form. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:27, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
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