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Revision as of 18:15, April 27, 2014

Overview

The hitbox of Falco's shine.

Being one of the 2 best moves in the game, Falco's Reflector (informally known as a shine) is the crux of his entire metagame and is the single biggest factor in his dominance as a character. The potency of the shine is attributed to two things. One, the initial hit of shine comes out without any delay (on frame 1) and two, it can be jump canceled 2 frames after the initial hit. This allows Falco hit an opponent and then leave the shine extremely early either by jumping out right away or wavedashing out of it (called waveshining). Falco's shine sends opponents diagonally upward, setting up aerial follow ups perfectly, most notably his down aerial, which directly combos back into the shine. This potentially endless cycle of shines and down airs is known as Pillaring and is the central engine of all of Falco's combos. The basic form of pillaring can be expanded on by including up tilts, neutral aerials and back aerials in between shines and down aerials for devastating effect.

The uses of shine are not just limited to comboing however. With its startup of 0 frames, the shine can be used as a substitute to the shield when facing a slow, powerful move. The shine can also be done out of shield allowing Falco to change the tide of the match to his favor. The fact that the shine can be jump canceled allows Falco to continue chaining multiple shines into each other (either by jump canceling directly into a new shine or waveshining back and forth) should the first shine be shielded. Additionally, since there is only a 2 frame delay between each consecutive shine, Falco can shine pressure faster than the opponent can leave their shield, meaning the opponent will eventually take a hit or have their shield broken. Sometimes if Falco mistimes the shield pressure, the opponent can roll away and use the intangibility from the roll to escape subsequent shines. However, even this option is easily punishable as Falco can wavedash in the direction of the roll and continue throwing shines out.

Per the move's official name, the Reflector, Falco's shine can reflect projectiles with 1.5 times the original damage (not knockback however). Despite this, many competitive players will not opt to use shine for this purpose and instead attempt to powershield projectiles, as powershielding projectiles is faster, less punishable, and easier to follow up on; powershield frames become active on frame 1 of the shield (reflection takes place on frame 4 as detailed below), and furthermore upon reflecting something with the shine, Falco will experience hitlag than he cannot jump out of (and consequently cannot waveshine out of), negating any sort of follow up ability off reflection and potentially allowing opponents to punish Falco for shining projectiles.

Hitboxes

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset Clang Rebound Effect G A Sound
0 0 8% 0 AngleIcon84.png 110 50 0 5.999616 3 0.0 0.0 0.0 HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png Electric (effect) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Burn

Timing

Minimum duration

Hitbox 1
Intangible 1
Reflects 4-21
Jump-cancellable 4-21
Turnaround possible 4-21
Animation length 39
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In general

Hitbox 1
Intangible 1
Reflects 4-[release+1]
Jump-cancellable 4-[release+1]
Turnaround possible 4-[release+1]
Animation length [release+19]
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Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag
Lag time
Hitbox
Hitbox
FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Vulnerable
FrameIcon(BlankLoopS).pngFrameIcon(BlankLoopE).png
Loop point
Reflection
Reflect
Intangibility
Intangible

Turning around disables jump-canceling for 3 frames. These frames will always reflect, regardless of release time. If the reflect window was increased that way, the ending lag will also increase by the same amount.

Properties

Reflection radius 8.5
Reflection damage 1.5x
Reflection speed 1.0x
Max reflectable damage 50
Reflection lag 20

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