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Sm template

Do you think you could add something that allows a character icon (s) to be displayed in the template, along with a game, like the Flag? Awesome Cardinal 2000 19:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

Not a bad idea. I'll see if I can get around to it once I reparadigm the head icon names to make sense. Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 23:12, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

Marth (SSBM)/Up tilt

Hello and thanks for your corrections! I wonder why you exchanged the »’« for a »'«, though. As far as I know, the former is typographically correct, though seldom used on the internet because standard keyboard layouts don’t use it directly. Also I’ve been wondering why Melee’s and Brawl’s special attacks share the same pages—wouldn’t it be wiser to separate them, especially now with the moveset subpages? Kadano (talk) 20:05, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

While it's technically more correct, no one ever uses ’ so it looks funny compared ot the rest of the wiki.

The plan is to keep the special attack pages as they are, being general descriptions of the moves and their origins, and then supplement them with individual pages for each game of them. Toomai Glittershine The Breegull 20:08, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

You have a point; even Opera's spell checker doesn't judge ’ as correct. Sigh.

So in the end, we will have three pages for each special move—Melee, Brawl, and both combined? Or will the general pages get deleted once the individual ones are complete? Kadano (talk) 20:21, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

Well four: a general one plus the technical data for each iteration in all three games. Toomai Glittershine The Wacko 20:23, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

Name Change

Hi, can you change my username to The Boo Buddy? I would really appreciate it. I can also challenge you on Wi-Fi if you want, since I am always available.LordGanondorf (talk) 09:38, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

Reverse Dolphin Slash

I consulted with Marth mains, PewPewU and Tai and yes the sweetspot is located on Marth's body. Due to the movement of the attack this hitbox is "dragged" across an area behind him as well as to some parts of Marth's legs. I've consulted members of the Project M Back Room and they confirm this is the case. Here's a gif. Upload it to Gif Explode and look at frames 5, 6, and 7. Those red hitboxes originating from the body (not the sword) is the sweetspot I'm describing.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 12:44, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

...the non-frame 5 body hitbox? The one that's not even Slash, does the least damage of all the hitboxes of the move, and has a third the base knockback as the actual sweetspot? Toomai Glittershine The Sphere 14:43, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

I was told the body hitbox remains strong for 3 frames starting from frame 5. I can't see the actual percents or knockback values from the gif.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 14:47, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Also from actual experience, the frontal sword hitboxes seem weaker than the hitbox I land when I use the reverse dolphin slash (presumably the body hitbox since Marth's back is turned against the opponent). Here's a clip showing the move used in actual combat if you have never seen it. --Brian^{Don't try me!} 17:19, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Please don’t spread word about stuff you’ve heard somewhere but don’t actually understand. This is exactly why ssbwiki has its bad reputation. If you want to find out the facts, start using debug mode, Master Hand tool or SSBM Hitboxes (NTSC 1.0).xlsx.

Dolphin Slash has three hitboxes¹. They are strong only on frame 5 (the first frame they are active). From frame 6 on, they have low damage and knockback.

Two of these three hitboxes are on Marth’s sword (bone 76), the hitbox at the tip is the sweetspot that deals 13%. Both the inner sword hitbox and the butt hitbox (bone 4) deal only 10% on frame 5.

Direction reversal takes place after frame 5. Thus, reversing it can’t possibly increase it’s strength. It’s like saying l-canceling aerials makes them stronger.

¹Actually, it’s six divided into two groups of three with the first three being exchanged for the second three at frame 6. Because their alignment is identical, I rather see it as the hitbox getting weaker than them being replaced, although strictly speaking this isn’t the case. Kadano (talk) 16:48, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Post this on the Marth Forums then. We've had it wrong for 6 years. At the very least, why does spacing for a reverse dolphin slash make landing the sweetspot easier?--Brian^{Don't try me!} 16:53, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

I just did. It doesn’t, that’s a misconception. Maybe it’s because reversing usually prevents you from hitting with the weak frame 6+ hitboxes so it feels like either sweetspotting or whiffing. Kadano (talk) 17:07, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

I see I will alert the Marths who don't visit SWFs that much now. Thanks. I'll update the Marth page accordingly.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 17:19, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Bot image fix

Could you make the bot change all the File:PokemonTrainerHeadSSBB.png to File:PokémonTrainerHeadSSBB.png? Because these files seem to be clogging up Category:Pages with broken file links. Thanks in advance. Awesome Cardinal 2000 20:38, 7 June 2013 (EDT)

Yeah there are bugs with image redirects. I dunno, might not be worth it since no one likes using é, and do you guys really use C:Pwbfl much anyway since Special:WantedPages is probably betterish? XL 21:08, 7 June 2013 (EDT)

Daipenmon is requesting to be Indefinitely Blocked over at the old wiki.

Here's the link as where he asked me to do this. http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:FirestormNeos FirestormNeos (talk) 23:53, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

Think of it as a user request please Toomai.(76.8.184.9 09:00, 9 June 2013 (EDT))

Delete User:Ihateterrible

Hi Toomai. My brother got really angry at me a couple of minuets ago and he made this account. Since he already has an account, and the new one won't do anything, can you delete it? Thank you. Terrible is Ready for Summer 17:25, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

I can only delete an account if I have another account to merge it into. Toomai Glittershine The Boss 17:31, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

I guess you can merge it into F.T.B.'s account. Terrible is Ready for Summer 10:46, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Dark Motif

Do you happen to know how to manipulate the monobook.css to make SmashWiki have a black motif? Every website I generally have open on a tab is black except for SmashWiki, I would rather save my eyes from pain. Toast ltimatum 18:21, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

I have some ideas but would have to test them. Let me mess around for a bit. Toomai Glittershine The SMASH-GINEER 18:25, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Well I have the basic stuff down, but you'll be having a dark background with light text and light infoboxes (with light text in them). Since you probably don't want that I'll do some extra thinking. Toomai Glittershine The Breegull 00:49, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

That sounds fine to me, all of these black websites I use also have white text, and it's probably easier to read than any dark style you may be planning. Toast ltimatum 08:21, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Well if all you want is a band-aid solution, put this in your stylesheet:

body {
  background:#000000;
}
div#content {
  background:#1f1f1f;
  color:#ffffff;
}
h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
  color:#ffffff;
}

Expect things like captions, tables, and templates to be unreadable. Toomai Glittershine The Victorious 09:50, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Ah, now I understand better. I'll still try this though. Toast ltimatum 09:53, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I hope this makes your day

ENJOY :D!!!!!--Brian^{Don't try me!} 14:51, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

HQ Brawl Character images

found this site called Spriters resource, and in the brawl section of the website it has renders and images pulled right out of the game. I figure you guys would want to have access to the backgroundless .png version of the brawl character renders for the wiki, instead of the current .jpg format ones you currently have. If you want I could start uploading images after getting them ready for the site. Ixbran (talk) 22:51, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

Yes I know of those images (I have the files and can find specific images if I look for them). I'm not sure whether we need to be replacing what we have though, since some of them appear to be segmented and need arbitrary rotation to be put together (which generally tends to look bad) (assuming I'm looking at the right sheet), and while I agree that .pngs are superiour in general for this sort of thing, there's something about keeping the official art's background that tells me it's a better choice. Feel free to disagree but I personally don't think you should start a wholesale changeover without more public discussion elsewhere.

Also, please do not add a <br> before your signature. Toomai Glittershine The Incomperable 00:45, 18 June 2013 (EDT)

I just figure that having high quality .png images would be better than having .jpg ones. they look a lot nicer and without the backgrounds, and would allow them to blend with the backgrounds of the templates. I mean if you look at some of the current brawl images, characters are off center. like Zero Suit samus's brawl pic. shes like to the far left of the image, with the gradient background taking up more of the image than the actual render it self, and i cant help but feel that's kinda tacky looking. But if we used the .png renders instead, it would give the wiki a more professional appearance.

Also, regarding the <br> thing with my signatures, its something I always do when signing my posts. Been doing it back since i first started editing wikis, back in 2008. I dont see why it would be such a big deal though, its how i personalize my signatures.
Ixbran (talk) 04:03, 18 June 2013 (EDT)

Mafia?

You able to run a session soon/now? There are a few people waiting already. DarkFox01Break the Targets! 13:45, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

I'd been travelling all day. Toomai Glittershine The Zesty 15:51, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

RTFM

If we implement your policy will we need to repeal the Simplified Ruleset? RoyboyX Talk 10:16, 23 June 2013 (EDT)

It wouldn't be necessary, but it would probably be the next thing to propose. Toomai Glittershine The Xanthic 10:17, 23 June 2013 (EDT)

Okay then. I suppose RTFM can be passed soon. RoyboyX Talk 10:21, 23 June 2013 (EDT)

Mafia Results

Could you please update the IRC Mafia results page? DarkFox01The Brawler 22:59, 27 June 2013 (EDT)

Yeah that's next on the list of things to do once I get a chance. Toomai Glittershine The Trumpeteer 23:26, 27 June 2013 (EDT)

Removals

http://smashboards.com/threads/houston-thread-whobo-5-mk-banned-october-19-20th-2013.142123/page-2816#post-15626098

Razer wants his name off of his wiki. I removed Trela's name because it seems like a bad move to just put personal information up like that when they might not want it up there.

The last edit was just because it seemed weird to mention a single loss from 2011 like that for someone with a record like Trela's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Steak Finger (talk • contribs) 20:53, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

Okay that's acceptable; you can remove personal information when there's documentation that the subject doesn't want it listed. For the Trela thing, it would have been better to remove the sentence entirely and leave an explanatory edit summary, rather than replace it with something somewhat irrelevant. Toomai Glittershine The Superlative 20:59, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

Kay, thanks. So you wouldn't mind if I removed it? Steak Finger (talk) 21:25, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

I would not mind. Toomai Glittershine The Brazen 21:27, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

All right, done. Steak Finger (talk) 01:39, 3 July 2013 (EDT)Steak Finger

Melee cast image map

Hey I created an image map using the Melee cast picture that you can see here, my question is can I use it and if so where can I use it? Plus, if you you allow me to use it, I will create one for SSB64 and Brawl. Thank you ----- Conanshinichi (talk) 10:12, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

Hmmmm. I had been thinking about doing something of this nature with the wiki's existing icons in a table as opposed to the character selection screen as an image, because the CSS lacks some characters. Maybe you should bring up the idea on the talk page of one of the templates you would be doing this with. Toomai Glittershine The Zesty 17:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

Well the link that I used for the icon for Zelda in this Character Selection Screen is Zelda/Sheik (disambiguation), though I don't think it'd work with Samus in Brawl unless if we create a Samus/Zero Suit Samus (disambiguation)page. It would definitely work for SSB64, however. Oh and which existing icons are you talking about? I don't mind creating an image map for them and I'd be more than happy to help :)

Brawl cast image map

So after making the Melee cast image map thingy, I decided to make the 64 and the Brawl ones. The 64 one went fine but the Brawl when making the brawl one, I had to also put Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, Squirtle Ivysaur and Charizard. My question is, should I place ZSS and 3 Pokémon below the other characters or to the left or right? Here are the 3 options: [1] ----- Conanshinichi 02:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Hitbox galleries

Hey, I noticed that there are hitbox galleries of some characters in Brawl. Could I make some Melee hitbox galleries using the stuff found here[2]? There's an example of one in my sandbox. Scr7 11:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't see why not. Toomai Glittershine The Zesty 17:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

When I include the link to a Fox hitbox image ([3]), it just includes the link and not the image itself. It seems to happen with every link from Photoshop (even though the Falco ones worked perfectly fine). Why is this? Scr7 02:10, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Try removing everything after and including the question mark. Toomai Glittershine The Cloronic 10:51, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

it works, thanks. Scr7 12:07, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

On the Marth one, I did that but it still shows the link. [4]. Scr7 13:04, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Can't reproduce that behaviour. Toomai Glittershine The Jiggy 13:06, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Does that mean the only thing to do is to upload the images onto the wiki? Scr7 13:17, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

No, it means that you should save the page as you have it so I can look at the exact problem you're having. Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 13:18, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Here Scr7 13:19, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Wow how did you turn every %20 into a space? Change them back; spaces in links cuts them off and they have to be substituted as %20. Toomai Glittershine The Brass 13:21, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

In the original links there was a space. They were just copy and pasted. Scr7 13:27, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Page creation log

Is there a page creation log, like the deletion log or the move log? Awesome Cardinal 2000 22:48, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

Nope. DoctorPain99 22:55, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

Yeah it doesn't look like it. Toomai Glittershine The Victorious 23:09, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

Actually, there is. RickTommy 02:03, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Fucking MediaWiki having a special page for this instead of having it as a log. Thanks. DoctorPain99 02:15, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Old templates still on pages

If you are logged in as an IP, on the Community portal page, the old ambitious proposal for moveset subpages is still there and should be removed. Awesome Cardinal 2000 20:24, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

Cannot reproduce in any of three browsers. The problem must be on your end. Toomai Glittershine The Honcho 20:28, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

Try clearing the cache. DoctorPain99 01:36, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

Hitbox pages

Since this wiki is currently doing moveset subpages explaining moves one by one like their frame duration among other things, should pages that links to pages showing only the moves hitboxes be deleted?Boo Buddy (talk) 12:35, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Only once all that character's moves have subpages (my opinion). Toomai Glittershine The Sharp 12:37, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Why should the hitbox subpages be deleted? There's no good reason to. Scr7 12:40, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Well the way I see it, once all the moveset subpages are done, there's not too much purpose to having a page for the hitbox images only. I think this should be discussed on one of the hitbox subpages' talkpages once this becomes relevant. Toomai Glittershine The Inconceivable 12:43, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Permission for userboxes

Hi, may I create userboxes for my user page just like yours? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2013 (EDT)