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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! Though new requests for fights can no longer be made, voting on already existing requests can be done here.

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Round 149: Tabuu vs. Meta Knight

		Winner!! undecided 0 to 0
A supposedly-overpowered boss against a supposedly-overpowered top tier. Which exceedingly annoying supremist reigns supreme?
Votes for Tabuu I see his face less often. 204.191.133.90 00:16, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Somewhat of a pity vote, I just like the concept of Tabuu. Killing him with a sweet-spotted Knee Smash is the best feeling in the world. Krazy4Krash (talk) 05:03, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Because. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 14:46, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight puts up a better fight, but my goldfish named Tabuu lasted more than double the lifespan of my other two goldfish. Toast ltimatum 16:54, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Aight this is why Tabuu wins...1. Tabuu has an OHKO unlike Meta Knight unless... 2. You consider Galaxia Darkness is an OHKO thus Tabuu still wins because Off Waves hits EVERYWHERE!!! Not just a little space infront (and back) of him 3. Better Teleport 4. MOAR BLUEE 5. Can turn giant 6. Rules an army larger then anything you can do back at Fire Emblem 7. Final Boss 8. Kick my favorite Smash characters a$S (Master Hand) 9. Two good for a tier list 10. If he was playable he could own everybody in the roster of Brawl & Melee (including Bosses). So yah....Take that. Headmaster Hand (talk) 17:05, 4 August 2012 (EDT) I had a hard time deciding. I don't know... I just like Tabuu better, I guess. Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:45, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Although Meta Knight is more popular, Tabuu will win. It takes at least six people to beat Tabuu in Subspace Emissary, but it takes easily one person (like me, of course) to beat Meta Knight.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 20:53, 4 August 2012 (EDT) While Meta Knight is a playable character, and one I sometimes use in Multi-Man Brawl, Tabuu is pretty much awesome in my opinion, and I hope to see more of him in the next Smash game. Also, Kaizer: While you get six tries in Subspace, you only get one in Boss Battles mode. Good luck! JamesHeartless 00:16, 5 August 2012 (EDT) Because.37.3.33.189 13:30, 5 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight was overpowered by accident. Tabuu was supposed to be powerful. And Meta Knight is just TOO overpowered, whereas Tabuu is a final boss, heck, he's SUPPOSED to be powerful, and allowed to be. Plus, good on purpose is better than good by accident. Davsto (talk) 15:21, 5 August 2012 (EDT) I don't like Meta Knight. Naked Snake 15:39, 5 August 2012 (EDT) Tabuu will win hands down, up against Meta Knight. Because Tabuu is hard to beat also he have a lot of attacks then Meta Knight.Smash X 5432 (talk) 14:35, 9 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight is EXTERMLEY overrated. Heck, he even overshadowes Kirby sometimes. Yeah, f*ck you Meta Knight, even Tabbu was a very hard boss, I'd still chose him over you. Half-votes meta knight can't defeat 26 fighters at the same time with one attack, but tabuu can! —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:101.63.209.241 (talk • contribs)			Votes for Meta Knight I just like this guy better because he's playable. FishPlay 00:02, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight > Tabuu. NO QUESTIONS ASKED--Bandit 23:58, 3 August 2012 (EDT) He can beat Ta-booooo!--ShupaRoeh 00:06, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Darth Vader in a pint-sized form. Also, no doughnuts for hearts. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 00:13, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Tabuu isn't actually that hard once you learn how to dodge his one hit KO attack. Meta Knight could easily beat him, and can actually pose a challenge. 110.174.90.69 00:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT) I go with anything else than Tabuu all knight long. DragonMistress (talk) 03:29, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Hm...Meta Knight is from the Kirby series. And Kirby is my favorite series. KIRBY DAMNIT!!! LightningBlue 03:51, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Holy cow - this is mine! :) Anyways, I say MK because at least I've beaten Tabuu on the highest difficulty. I wouldn't stand a chance against a MK who knew what they were doing. 24.168.107.113 11:07, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Come back when you can put up a fight, sug! 97.67.160.226 11:24, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Metaknight FTW! Good always triumphs over evil. Smash Master 14:22, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Meta knight is so badass that he had to be banned from tournments because he is so good. I've seen people beat Tabuu with jigglypuff, freaking jigglypuff. No Competition.2.122.221.124 16:59, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight needs to be buffed for the next Smash bros. Mr. Anontalk 17:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT) To the users who brawled me, you should clearly know why. :| Dots The PSI Asian 18:52, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Meta Knight is way better!!! The Awesome 15:14, 5 August 2012 (EDT) Shanderu 17:25, 7 August 2012 (EDT) I vote Meta Knight because he's wearing clothes. Hawk 21Talk 22:37, 8 August 2012 (EDT) Tabuu was far too easy as a final boss, and Meta Knight pwns. 2.24.164.108 04:32, 9 August 2012 (EDT) Have you seen Mach Tornado in Kirby Superstar Ultra?! The Cheese 21:39, 9 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes I don't care what anyone says, Tabuu is a JERK. At least MK is on your side. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.220.93 (talk • contribs) {{{2}}}
Comments Seriously Toomai, I think a Sonic vs. Tabuu matchup would've been better. Since Sonic damaged one of Tabuu's wings. LightningBlue 03:53, 4 August 2012 (EDT) I agree.--ShupaRoeh 11:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT) I think that would've been more one-sided than this one. Also LightningBlue, you don't have to put a colon before each post.--Bandit 11:45, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Oh man! Just one more week until the five-in-one special! And since this match was used right before it, I have an idea of what two of the matches in the special are going to be... Toadat9021doh (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Bandit I want to and no one else cares. LightningBlue 17:29, 4 August 2012 (EDT) Actually, make that three. ;) Toadat9021doh (talk) 20:47, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

Round 148: Torchic vs. Piplup

		Winner!! Piplup 14 to 22
A bout between two common Pokéball Pokémon: both birds that cover their immediate area in trapping hitboxes, but controlling vastly different elements. Which peeper prevails?
Votes for Torchic Even though there's the type disadvantage and all, purely talking about their SSBB abilities I prefer Torchic since it actually attacks pretty much instantly after being released from the Poke Ball, unlike Piplup. 110.174.90.69 00:06, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I don't play with Pokeballs on, but to me a fire attack makes more sense that a water one. Naked Snake 00:31, 28 July 2012 (EDT) The Cheese says: Fire RUELS! The Cheese 00:34, 28 July 2012 (EDT) So tough to decide! I'm probably going to go with Torchic, though. I always mimic its voice when released. Too cute. Krazy4Krash (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Blaziken was awesome back when the Fire/Fighting starter WASN'T completely overused. 24.168.107.113 10:46, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I like fire better--Bandit 11:51, 28 July 2012 (EDT) While I would normally support the water type, I do like the look of Torchic more. Plus I've never played past generation III. JamesHeartless 13:14, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Does more damage and knockback.--71.160.242.60 19:36, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I have a history with Torchics. I first got one as my starter in Emerald and nicknamed it Fireballs. After beating the game with it, I wanted to play through Emerald again with all three starters, so I got Fireballs to produce two children, one called FireballJr, the other without a name. One was then used on Emerald, while the other was used on a friend's playthrough of FireRed. At a later date, both Fireballs and FireballJr were migrated to Black, where FireballJr then had a son of its own after falling in love with a nice Leafeon, called FireballIV, also making Fireballs a Grandfather, and Ditto a Grandmother. Unnamed Torchic is yet to find itself a partner, but maybe one day, the family will expand even further. Toast ltimatum 20:02, 28 July 2012 (EDT) This is the starter that I used for my favorite Pokemon game, Emerald. Stranger 1260 09:55, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Torchic actually does damage,Piplup doesn't.--DarkVexon (talk) 20:22, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup is easy to avoid, and Torchic is better to knock into. I have had both Pokemon in their games, but, not suprisingly, I've Torchic longer and Blaziken is great. Floor2000x (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2012 (EDT) Torchic's cuter, and has a much better evolution. The White Blur , the Whitest Thing Alive. Torchic does way more damage and has a good chance of KOing opponents. It also stays in one spot, and you can push opponents to it, unlike Piplup, where you can just jump over it easily.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:13, 2 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Piplup Can PWN Torchic easily. ShupaRoeh 23:59, 27 July 2012 (EDT) Well despite the type advantage, I prefer Piplup because every time it gets called out it just shoves me off the stage. While with Torchic I can escape and continue fighting against my enemy's. Headmaster Hand (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I just like the idea of Piplup killing itself;) FishPlay (talk) 02:05, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Another tough one. Piplup's evolution line is better. Don't get me wrong Blaziken is one of my favorite fighting types, but Empoleon is [literally] much cooler. His typing is unique and he has an imperial look, which earns it points. Therefore, Piplup has my vote. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 04:29, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup can easily knock out characters once they get trapped!!! The Awesome 10:39, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup can drag you to your doom! 204.191.139.10 10:41, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Many reasons: Its actually pretty easy to avoid Torchic's attack, Piplup can actually do a suicide KO even if the opponents damage % is low. And even though Blaziken would be better than Empoleon, Penguins are my favorite animal. And lastly, Water does super effect Fire. Dots The PSI Asian 11:48, 28 July 2012 (EDT) It doesn't work half of the time, but when it does... --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 15:04, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Just look at my signature and tell me what my favorite starter is. :| Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:00, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I like his water attack. R.O.BitySonic (talk) 18:28, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Looks like a penguin. That is all.94.15.11.116 07:06, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I would say two points. One, it is generally more useful. True, it's inaccurate due to a slow start up, but if it hits is does a little damage and uncommonly KOs on regular stages and almost always does so on walk-off-blast-line stages. Two, it's a penguin, and a cute penguin at that. True, in the Pokémon series Blaziken is more useful than Empoleon, but Piplup trumps Torchic in both Pokémon AND Brawl. Davsto (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I love watching Piplup surf back and forth in a walled-in area. Toadat9021doh (talk) 14:03, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Puplup is more useful than Torchic, 'cause it drags the opponents to their doom. Smash Master 14:18, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Type advantage. Type advantage. LightningBlue 15:53, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Per LightningBlue and his new sig. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 16:01, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I LOVE PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are cute and fluffy and Piplup is no exception. Oh, and Piplup can talk too. ChuckNorris 12:09, 31 July 2012 (EDT) I would say exactly the same thing as AirConditioner if I had an Empoleon sig.--Shanicpower Make it rain! 12:43, 31 July 2012 (EDT)Piplup's my favorite too... Water > Fire. 67.173.145.76 20:16, 1 August 2012 (EDT) My first pokemon game was Diamond. My mom started it, chose Piplup and gave it a stupid nickname. DragonMistress (talk) 14:31, 2 August 2012 (EDT)DragonMistress 20:30, 2 August 1012 64.130.180.158 15:55, 2 August 2012 (EDT) Water beats fire. Cherrim98Talk 23:07, 3 August 2012 (EDT) Thats right im back!
Comments ShupaRoeh you didn't put the # next to your comment. Headmaster Hand (talk) 00:19, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I would fix it, but something else did. ShupaRoeh 10:23, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Oh my gosh!!!!! Toast didn't make a pun! There was plenty of ideals, and he didn't use any. Wow. Davsto (talk) 13:10, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Stop posting comments that attract your attention. ShupaRoeh 13:13, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

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