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{{Infobox Smasher
{{Infobox Smasher
| name          = KishPrime
| name          = KishPrime
| mainssbu      = Zelda
| 2ndmainssbu  = Kirby
| mainssbm      = Jigglypuff
| mainssbm      = Jigglypuff
| 2ndmainssbm  = Falco
| 2ndmainssbm  = Falco
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| mainssb      = Kirby
| mainssb      = Kirby
| crew          = [[Ship of Fools]]
| crew          = [[Ship of Fools]]
| skillssbm    = Professional
| realname      = Tim Kish
| realname      = Tim Kish
| birthday      = 14
| birthday      = 14
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| country      = United States
| country      = United States
}}
}}
'''KishPrime''' is an Indiana [[smasher]].  He uses [[Jigglypuff]] and is a member of the [[Ship of Fools]].
'''KishPrime''' is an Indiana [[smasher]].  He uses {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} and is a member of the [[Ship of Fools]].


==Influence on tournament rules==
==Background==
===Influence on tournament rules===
KishPrime has been a major contributor for defining tournament standards. He brought the neutral stage list and advanced slobs counterpicks into the Midwest from the East Coast, while slightly revising them and pushing for an open stage list for counterpicks - this led to the development of stage bans. His [[MELEE-FC]] ruleset was considered the best of its day, and was used at [[MLG]] with a slightly changed ban rule, which soon returned to a permanent stage strike. The MLG rules were generally considered to be the national standard until it was disbanded.


KishPrime has been a major contributor to the defining of tournament standards for many years. He brought the neutral stage list and advanced slobs counterpicks into the Midwest from the East Coast, while slightly revising them and pushing for an open stage list for counterpicks.  Stage bans were developed in the context of these discussions in the Midwest.  His [[MELEE-FC]] ruleset was considered the best of its day, and was used at MLG with a slightly changed ban rule, which soon returned to a permanent stage strike.  The MLG rules were generally considered to be the national standard until it was disbanded.
He also helped to define the crew rules, first devised by {{Sm|KishSquared}}, into what they are today. He also proposed crew counterpicks which allowed for a stage selection by the entering player while allowing a character change in response.


He also helped to define the crew rules first devised by {{sm|KishSquared}} into what they are today. He first proposed for crew counterpicks that allowed for a stage selection by the entering player, while allowing a character change in response.
===Influence on Jigglypuff===
While KishPrime was one of the first Jigglypuff [[mains]] in tournament play, he actually contributed very little. {{Sm|AOB}} was far more widely known at the time due to the abundance of his videos, and performed better for much of KishPrime's earliest playing days. His most notable contribution was the introduction of the rising pound recovery, which is cited by AOB in his video "PuffStuff".


==Influence on Jigglypuff==
His playstyle relies on a constant use of the [[Wall of Pain]], utilizing both distance and spacing to keep away from the opponent while using her multiple jumps to stay airborne. This style was dubbed by {{Sm|Neo}} as "air camping."


While KishPrime was one of the first Jigglypuff [[mains]] in tournament play, he actually contributed very little.  {{sm|AOB}} was far more widely known at the time due to the abundance of his videos, and performed better for much of KishPrime's earliest playing days.  His most notable contribution was the introduction of the rising pound recovery, which is cited by AOB in his video PuffStuff, one of the most watched Jigglypuff videos of all time.
KishPrime's doubles play briefly gained notoriety after KishWho?'s 4th place finish at the 2005 MLG National Championships, and served as a template for team rest setups for many players thereafter. During the Golden Era, KishPrime was one of the best Jigglypuff players, along with {{Sm|Zulu|p=Texas}}, {{Sm|AOB}}, {{Sm|The King}}, {{Sm|KillaOR}}, {{Sm|Anden}}, and {{Sm|Snex}}.


His style was dubbed by {{sm|Neo}} "air camping," and it is quite fitting. It is a constant use of the [[Wall of Pain]], utilizing both distance and spacing to keep away from the opponent while using her multiple jumps to stay airborne.  Few Jigglypuff players seek to emulate this style, so it is not a huge influence on the scene.
===Community contributions===
KishPrime participated in the [[Smash Panel Power Rankings]] project from its initial inception to its eventual dissolution, and was one of the three who led the panel after the retirement of {{Sm|Chillin}}. Though it came the closest to creating a true national power ranking compared to other such project, it was finally disbanded after backlash from the community demonstrated that the effort was not appreciated. After this effort, KishPrime fought for the establishment of regional power rankings, which now successfully run in many areas of the country. He personally ran the [[Midwest Power Rankings]] for some time before passing them on.


KishPrime's doubles play briefly gained notoriety after KishWho?'s 4th place finish at the 2005 MLG National Championships, and served as a template for team rest setups for many players thereafter. During the Golden Era, KishPrime was one of the best Jigglypuff players, along with {{Sm|Zulu (Texas)}}, {{Sm|AOB}}, {{Sm|The King}}, {{Sm|KillaOR}}, {{Sm|Anden}}, and {{Sm|Snex}}.
The National Circuit project was started by KishPrime in March of 2007 after a successful launch of the Midwest Circuit in Fall of 2006, as regions around the country begin to form their own circuits following the vacuum that [[MLG]] has left. Thanks to his efforts, many other circuits sprung up out of this initiative.


==Community contributions==
KishPrime was a longtime moderator of the Midwest regional forum.  
 
He participated in the [[Smash Panel Power Rankings]] project from its inception to its close, and was one of the three who led the panel after the retirement of {{sm|Chillin}}.  Though it came the closest to true national rankings of any other such project, it was finally disbanded after backlash from the community demonstrated that the effort was not appreciated. 
 
After this effort, KishPrime fought for the establishment of regional power rankings, which are now successfully run in many areas of the country.  He personally ran the [[Midwest Power Rankings]] for some time before passing them on.
 
KishPrime is a moderator of the Midwest regional forum, along with {{sm|AlphaZealot}}.
 
The National Circuit project was started by KishPrime in March of 2007, and is continuing to be developed as regions around the country begin to form their own circuits following the vacuum that [[MLG]] has left.  As the [[Midwest Circuit]] was the pioneer circuit, it remains to be seen if the National Circuit develops just as well.


==Tournament placings==
==Tournament placings==
 
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''===
===''Super Smash Bros. Melee''===
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{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
|-
|[[Flame of Bowser 1]]||November 22nd, 2003||3rd||—||—
|-
|-
|[[MLG Chicago 2004]]||June 19th-20th, 2004||7th||—||—
|[[MLG Chicago 2004]]||June 19th-20th, 2004||7th||—||—
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|[[SMYM 2]]||September 25th, 2004||3rd||—||—
|[[SMYM 2]]||September 25th, 2004||3rd||—||—
|-
|-
|[[MLG New York 2004]]||October 24th, 2004||—||3rd||{{sm|KishSquared}}
|[[MLG New York 2004]]||October 24th, 2004||7th||3rd||{{sm|KishSquared}}
|-
|-
|[[MLG DC 2005]]||January 29th-30th, 2005||9th||7th||{{Sm|Kava}}
|[[MLG DC 2005]]||January 29th-30th, 2005||9th||7th||{{Sm|Cava}}
|-
|-
|[[MLG Chicago 2005]]||December 16th-18th, 2005||13th||—||—
|[[MLG Chicago 2005]]||December 16th-18th, 2005||13th||—||—
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|-
|[[MLG Chicago 2006]]||July 21st-22nd, 2006||25th||6th||KishSquared
|[[MLG Chicago 2006]]||July 21st-22nd, 2006||25th||6th||KishSquared
|-
|[[MW Circuit #1: Fools Rush In 2]]||April 7th, 2007||1st||1st||KishSquared
|-
|-
|[[Show Me Your Moves 7]]||April 7th, 2007||17th||6th||KishSquared
|[[Show Me Your Moves 7]]||April 7th, 2007||17th||6th||KishSquared
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|-
|[[Zero Fox Given]]||September 17th, 2016||25th||9th||KishSquared
|[[Zero Fox Given]]||September 17th, 2016||25th||9th||KishSquared
|-
|{{Trn|Full Bloom 2024}}||February 24th-25th, 2024||193rd||49th||KishSquared
|}
|}


[[Category:Jigglypuff professionals (SSBM)]]
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
|-
|{{Trn|Full Bloom 2024}}||February 24th-25th, 2024||97th||—||—
|}
 
==External links==
*[https://twitter.com/Kish_Prime Twitter account]
 
[[Category:Jigglypuff players (SSBM)]]
[[Category:Smashboards moderators]]
[[Category:Smashboards moderators]]
[[Category:Tournament directors]]
[[Category:Tournament organizers]]
[[Category:Indiana smashers]]
[[Category:Indiana smashers]]
[[Category:Smashboards moderators]]
[[Category:Smashboards moderators]]
[[Category:Back Room members]]
[[Category:Back Room members]]
[[Category:Panelists]]

Latest revision as of 23:48, February 25, 2024

KishPrime
Character info
Smash 64 main Kirby
Melee mains Jigglypuff, Falco
Brawl main Olimar
Ultimate mains Zelda, Kirby
Team info
Crew(s) Ship of Fools
Personal and other info
Real name Tim Kish
Birth date (age 43)
Location Indianapolis, IN United States

KishPrime is an Indiana smasher. He uses Jigglypuff and is a member of the Ship of Fools.

Background[edit]

Influence on tournament rules[edit]

KishPrime has been a major contributor for defining tournament standards. He brought the neutral stage list and advanced slobs counterpicks into the Midwest from the East Coast, while slightly revising them and pushing for an open stage list for counterpicks - this led to the development of stage bans. His MELEE-FC ruleset was considered the best of its day, and was used at MLG with a slightly changed ban rule, which soon returned to a permanent stage strike. The MLG rules were generally considered to be the national standard until it was disbanded.

He also helped to define the crew rules, first devised by KishSquared, into what they are today. He also proposed crew counterpicks which allowed for a stage selection by the entering player while allowing a character change in response.

Influence on Jigglypuff[edit]

While KishPrime was one of the first Jigglypuff mains in tournament play, he actually contributed very little. AOB was far more widely known at the time due to the abundance of his videos, and performed better for much of KishPrime's earliest playing days. His most notable contribution was the introduction of the rising pound recovery, which is cited by AOB in his video "PuffStuff".

His playstyle relies on a constant use of the Wall of Pain, utilizing both distance and spacing to keep away from the opponent while using her multiple jumps to stay airborne. This style was dubbed by Neo as "air camping."

KishPrime's doubles play briefly gained notoriety after KishWho?'s 4th place finish at the 2005 MLG National Championships, and served as a template for team rest setups for many players thereafter. During the Golden Era, KishPrime was one of the best Jigglypuff players, along with Zulu, AOB, The King, KillaOR, Anden, and Snex.

Community contributions[edit]

KishPrime participated in the Smash Panel Power Rankings project from its initial inception to its eventual dissolution, and was one of the three who led the panel after the retirement of Chillin. Though it came the closest to creating a true national power ranking compared to other such project, it was finally disbanded after backlash from the community demonstrated that the effort was not appreciated. After this effort, KishPrime fought for the establishment of regional power rankings, which now successfully run in many areas of the country. He personally ran the Midwest Power Rankings for some time before passing them on.

The National Circuit project was started by KishPrime in March of 2007 after a successful launch of the Midwest Circuit in Fall of 2006, as regions around the country begin to form their own circuits following the vacuum that MLG has left. Thanks to his efforts, many other circuits sprung up out of this initiative.

KishPrime was a longtime moderator of the Midwest regional forum.

Tournament placings[edit]

Super Smash Bros. Melee[edit]

Tournament Date 1v1 placement 2v2 placement Partner
Flame of Bowser 1 November 22nd, 2003 3rd
MLG Chicago 2004 June 19th-20th, 2004 7th
MELEE-FC1 July 9th-10th, 2004 17th 7th AOB
SMYM 2 September 25th, 2004 3rd
MLG New York 2004 October 24th, 2004 7th 3rd KishSquared
MLG DC 2005 January 29th-30th, 2005 9th 7th Cava
MLG Chicago 2005 December 16th-18th, 2005 13th
MELEE-FC6 July 13th-15th, 2006 17th
SMYM 6 November 4th, 2006 17th
MLG New York 2005 February 25th-26th, 2006 4th KishSquared
MLG Chicago 2006 July 21st-22nd, 2006 25th 6th KishSquared
MW Circuit #1: Fools Rush In 2 April 7th, 2007 1st 1st KishSquared
Show Me Your Moves 7 April 7th, 2007 17th 6th KishSquared
MELEE-FC Diamond July 12th-14th, 2007 25th 25th KishSquared
MELEE-FC10R Legacy August 12th-14th, 2012 81st
The Big House 3 October 12th-13th, 2013 41st
FC Smash 15XR: Return July 4th-5th, 2015 49th 17th KishSquared
Zero Fox Given September 17th, 2016 25th 9th KishSquared
Full Bloom 2024 February 24th-25th, 2024 193rd 49th KishSquared

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate[edit]

Tournament Date 1v1 placement 2v2 placement Partner
Full Bloom 2024 February 24th-25th, 2024 97th

External links[edit]