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Vandals

Please list the names/IP's of potential vandals here. Also, if possible, tell me the page(s) they vandalized so that I can verify the claim and assess the damage. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Perma-ban this IP. His last ban ended today and he just started up again. Miles (talk - contribs) 23:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Aw man, it's the same guy? Man, he's probably the guy I called a fr... Sorry, BNK got banned because of that. Anyway, I agree with Miles, we kept reverting this guy's edits while you guys were in school/college (last month or earlier). Ban him. MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[1] is vandal. --Shadowcrest 01:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, ban him. Please. He's been nothing but trouble for the past hour or so. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Can u ban this annoying IP? Special:Contributions/162.83.114.18 Thanks. Masterman What's the matter? Scared?

This person is a vandal account. Please ban it for life. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 02:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

151.199.137.92 is a vandal account. Ban him. IT'S A METEORITE!^{If you weren't crushed} 10:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

1 is vandal. --Shadowcrest 21:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Get rid of this moron for a week or two. He's been making up attacks for the SSE bosses.

Look [ParaGoomba348 cancelin|what got created again]]. ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just talk to me) 16:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

This guy is the one who keeps uploading the inappropriate pics. He also made 2 joke pages. Have fun! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 03:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Cheez, his User page is a red link. I changed it to link to the contributions. Anyway, yeah, that's the guy. MarioGalaxy {talk} 03:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

MarioGalaxy is a vanduhl ucout ban him. MarioGlaxay (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Another MarioGalaxy account. Fun Fun.O, Mighty Smoreking 18:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, first LarioGalaxy, and now MarioGlaxay? Give me a break. MarioGalaxy {talk} 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

This feels familiar... Miles (talk - contribs) 19:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

This IP went vandal on Zero Suit Samus. Miles (talk - contribs)`

Just fyi, the vandal has been warned and, for the time being at least, has ceased to vandalize. – Defiant Elements 03:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Perma-ban this IP please: 64.72.67.162. All he wants to do is personally attack everyone in the forums. - GalaxiaD ^Talk 23:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if he's a recurring vandal, but 24.9.71.98 vandalized the Sheik page. It was only a minor one, and probably would have gone unnoticed. One to keep an eye on. --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 07:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

This one needs to be blocked. It has vandalized numerous times, and even promised not to vandalize. Then it vandalized again. I'm tired of hearing about it, so do what you have to! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 03:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Before we do so, maybe you should try to help the IP, C. Hawk. He doesn't know what kind of edits to make (either that, or he's a really bad actor). MarioGalaxy {talk} 03:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

MG, we've given it so many chances to get better. Check his contributions! They're all the same type of thing! It knows HOW to contribute, but doesn't, because its a vandal! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 03:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/76.7.142.30 --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 12:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I think C.Hawk is out of town. This is why the admin board is a good idea, yes? --Shadowcrest 15:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that is a good idea, as long as they check it consistently. It should clear up their talk pages, too. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 05:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

This one has vandalized twice. Do your thing. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah.SmoreKing Happy Holidays! 02:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that.SmoreKing Happy Holidays! 15:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Uno mas, por favor Friedbeef1 Argue 17:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

ParaGoomba348 is a vandal account. ban him forevr. ParaGoomba348 Is Horrible (talk) 23:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Perma-ban this new vandal. Miles (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Perma-ban ParaGoomba348 Is Horrible. He has an unacceptable username AND is a vandal. ParaGoomba348 23:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Since you banned him, I suggest deleting his page and talk page, too.SmoreKing Happy Holidays! 01:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Get rid of this moron for a week or two, 78.148.247.234. --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 21:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see vandalism there, just bad edits made in good faith. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Making up moves for all the bosses seemed like vandalism to me. Also, can you close some of the RfR's? --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 05:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I am so sick of Blue Ninjakoopa and his constant bullying of other users. Go to the RfR pages, and check the history, then read how rude and offensive he was to me and Gutripper. I am extremely hurt and offended by his words, and from what I can tell, this is definately not the first time this has happened. PLease, get rid of him. --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 09:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sky has already handed me my warning, and I've adhered it. I assure you that will not happen again, no matter how much you try and get me banned, Toon Ganondorf. Just look at the argument on my talk page. Koopa Klaus 11:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

5 archives. Wow. By the way, JtM put a Cleanup Tag on our article, saying there was way too much stuff. Shade cleaned it up for us, removing a lot of the stuff. Now that it's cleaned up, can I remove the tag? MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

It would be a lot of work, but...

...should we make a separate stub template for each universe? Right now we have two, Stub and Smasher-stub. Should this happen, or is it not worth the trouble? Miles (talk - contribs) 23:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think we should be able to say what info needs to added to the stub, kinda like how cleanup works. It would good for clarification if nothing else. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea to me. MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Not what I meant originally. I like your idea in theory, but that's the difference between cleanup and stub: Cleanup targets one or two problems, but stub means the whole thing is too short. It would just clutter it up. Miles (talk - contribs) 23:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No and no. I don't have time to explain now, but I'll get to it later. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Not to seem like I'm bothering you, but I'm interested to find out what you'd think about the tentative project I'm designing. I thought it might even be possible to reword it and make it a policy, but in either case I know it still needs work. Thoughts? Also, could you please comment on my RfA? Thanks. Miles (talk - contribs) 02:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

CH, an anonymous source told me that you banned BNK for "multiple accounts, insults off of wiki". that is a false statement. and, you can't ban anyone for insults off the wiki! i've seen BNK level insults, but the ones the sockpuppets used are NOT him. Xtrme Talk 2 X Wut X is doing 18:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Special:Log/block is an anonymous source? Oh, my mistake. It doesn't say that anywhere in the block log.

Oh, wait. --Sky (t · c · w) 18:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess Cheez got banned too

User Talk:Cheezperson#UNBLOCK ME!!!.

Sooooooo, yeah.O, Mighty Smoreking 19:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

My Tier Lists!

I didn't copy the tier lists! Those were my own! Take a look at them before you delete a page! --Riko (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I screwed up there. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 20:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

About BNK

Could you maybe remove BNK's ban? Or at least reduce it. I know you probably won't want to, but hear me out: BNK's not that bad of a guy. You see, I talk with him every day on my Proboards, and he's very friendly once you get to know him. Sure, he may lash out at his enemies, but we all have our faults. It's all a part of human nature. The man is a Christian, and a very good friend (hope that didn't religiously offend you). I'll try and make him a better person in preparation for his return. I promise you, he will be a better person by the time you get this message. Please take this request into consideration, as he is a very good contributor to the wiki. Thank you. - GalaxiaD ^Talk 00:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Basically all of your arguments don't matter or are outweighed, honestly :/

Though 3 months is a long time. --Shadowcrest 00:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Three months would be a long time if this wasn't the fourth time he has been banned for these same things. This time, he went so far as to not only use the wiki, but also find users outside of wikia to continue harassing them. I can't stop him from being an idiot, but I can stop him from doing it here. Him being you friend is wholly irrelevant. He is disruptive to this wiki and its users. I also don't care if this is "just who he is." I agree with that statement; that's why I blocked him. Next, his religion is completely irrelevant here. What is relevant is his behaviour. I don't care what faith he belongs to (if any) or how he practices it. All I care about is the fact that all he does on this wiki is cause strife. This is one of the very few places in the world where you are judged solely on your actions. Users have no way of knowing personal information about you unless you choose to divulge it. All we have to go on is what and how the person has contributed. In the case of BNK, I made a ruling on this irrespective of personal information. He is blocked for the next three months. If, upon his return, he continues this behaviour, he will be blocked forever. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for signing up for our tournament on AiB. Will both of you be participating or just one of you? Shade (talk) 00:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

About YouTube videos

You are invited to comment on the proposition that was posted to my talk page at JoePlay's talk page. My response is already posted there. Silver and Erik have also been contacted. --Sky (t · c · w) 02:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The block

First of all, thanks for shortening BNK's block, although I still doubt he deserved it at all.

Second, in case you missed it, I was blocked a third time in relation to BNK's block. I will lose a ton of faith in the administration here if it happens if fourth time. I'm usually a cheerful guy (the arguments are just 4 fun), but my "blocks" are making me think. We (BNK and I) live on opposite ends of the USA, so I shouldn't even be affected at all. He's been blocked before, and I've never been affected by them. If I'm going to regain trust in the administration, I'd like to know why I keep getting blocked. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you keep getting blocked. It's not something I have control over in most cases. When a user is blocked, the script is set up to hit the IPs used by that user. If what you are saying is true, I can't understand why you are being auto-blocked by his blocks. The only explanations I have is that one of your computers is a zombie of the other, or one of you is on a variable IP address. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I only use one computer, and it's stationary, so that can't be it. I probably shouldn't be mad at you, as human mistakes happen, and all of us (even those who claim to be experts) are still learning. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 07:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing they can do to avoid it is not use auto-block, and I know quite well how hard changing an entire community is. Your anger is completely misplaced, and it doesn't even seem you know why you were blocked before flaming C.Hawk :/ --Shadowcrest 15:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

In case you haven't heard about it, BNK was blocked again, and for some reason, my P address is affected by it. I did nothing wrong, and all of the users know that. I wasn't flaming, you'd be a little angry too if you keep getting blocked for another guy's block because of IP address stuff. Last of all, please mind your own business. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Cheezperson, don't bring the last part up as a reason. Shadowcrest will eventually say something like, "it's a wiki, and a user is obligated to join in on a conversation in order to solve problems on the wiki". That's just a generalization of what Shadowcrest thinks and says. MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, I don't need the "I did nothing wrong, you'd be frustrated too" etc., because I am well aware Blue Ninjakoopa was blocked again, having commented on the shortening of his ban; I well aware of how auto-block works, having used it regularly; and I already expressed my empathy to you, not my sympathy. Which means that I know what's happening because it's happened to me. User_talk:Shadowcrest#auto-block for reference. Don't pretend that I'm an idiot without a clue, please.

Now I'm pretty much convinced neither of you get wikis at all. Yes, MarioGalaxy, I would have said something like that (although obligated wasn't the right word, able is more accurate). Why? Because it's the basic principle of wikis, which neither of you seem to understand. I will say for the third time: Wikis exist so that everyone can contribute to virtually everything. Also for the third time: If you want me to stay out of "your business", take it off wiki. By the very nature of the fact that you posted it on a wiki, it is not "your business", but I'm too lazy to argue the point atm.

Additionally Cheez, the fact that you are ignoring your own advice to me is quite lulz. You are accusing C.Hawk of targetting you with a ban, which is nowhere close to the truth, and then say you will lose trust in him if it happens again, despite there being no evidence he is targetting you and despite your incorrect belief. I suggest you assume good faith in other users more often. --Shadowcrest 00:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not saying CH targeted me for a ban (I'm pretty sure he didn't), I was just wondering if he knew why it was targeting me even after I as unblocked twice. I don't know how it would work.

Also, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. For the past week or so, after most of everything I've posted here, you jump in and make unnecessary and snide remarks. I will take my own advice and assume good faith, and therefore consider out loud that you are doing what you are doing out of good faith, but don't think for a second that I appreciate it. I'm sorry for sounding derogatory (and pointing out the obvious), but you're acting like a wannabe sysop. If you want to become one, request for it, and accept the (helpful) criticism people give you! Now don't say that I don't accept criticism, because the reason why I question criticizers is because I like to know why the feel the way they do, and how I can better myself.

My question to you is why you feel the way you do about non-sysops. I will not accept "I treat sysops and regular users the same way as an answer," as I know that isn't true. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't feel any differently about sysops and nonsysops. What I do feel difference towards is the attitude, knowledge, and actions of the people who get wikis and people that don't. I have tried very hard to get people to understand, and after having multiple arguments of biting my tongue, being polite and being ignored, I dropped it and started being a hardass. I know the above message was more inflammatory than I wanted, and I am sincerely sorry for it. But if it's the only way I can get people to listen, then so be it (as long as it's within the bounds of good taste, though).

"I'm not saying CH targeted me for a ban (I'm pretty sure he didn't), I was just wondering if he knew why it was targeting me even after I as unblocked twice." I guess you implied something way different than what you said, then. After all, we're all human; we make mistakes. You see, since you were threatening to lose faith in the admins if an automated mechanism blocks you again, I took it as you blaming C.Hawk for something he really has nothing to do with; I didn't see it as a question until just now.

"Also, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it." And...why not? If I've got something important to say, I'm probably going to say it.

"For the past week or so, after most of everything I've posted here, you jump in and make unnecessary and snide remarks." Well, if I had something genuine to say it wasn't an unnecessary comment, but I apologize if I have accidentally slighted you.

"...you're acting like a wannabe sysop. If you want to become one, request for it..." I plan to. Just not yet.

"...and accept the (helpful) criticism people give you!" But you see, that's just it. If I recieved criticism that would truly improve the way I contribute (and be careful not to fall into the trap of thinking carebears are the ideal), then I would gladly do my best to improve. In fact, I just had a serious discussion regarding my behavior and how I've tried to improve myself, and how I've reached and at the same time failed to reach my self imposed goal. This very post obtains and fails to hit my goal. It involved the two polls on my userpage, which I wish people would vote it; I requested the feedback for a reason.

In conclusion: I both understand and fail to understand why you do what you do and how you think about things. I'm only trying to help you guys improve yourselves; I'm not trying to troll, flame, like and such as. I realize I come off as an ass sometimes (a lot, depending -.- ), but- at least regarding smashwiki, I've decided that it's better to be harsh and understood and polite and ignored, since at least the former accomplishes something. I haven't meant to slight anyone, but it is occasionally a side effect of my posting... and I'm sorry. :/ --Shadowcrest 02:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

You do know I was telling Cheez to not bring up that last reason, right? I told him you'd say something like that because you would. I don't really care if I don't understand, you can go ahead and join a conversation, it doesn't mean anything to me. Sure, it's the principle, but that's not my point. All I'm saying is Cheez shouldn't bring up that last part. Go ahead and talk to him and C. Hawk, it doesn't bother me. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I realize that. However, the way I interpreted your comment is that I was trolling and like and such as by repeatedly trying to get users to understand the point of a wiki. So, I apologize for any unnecessary hostility towards you. :] --Shadowcrest 02:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Eh, don't worry about it. I am in a bad mood right now, but that's because I'm doing a take-home history test right now. I can't talk much at the moment. MarioGalaxy {talk} 03:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Ruling: One, I'm not going to stop using auto-blocks , they prevent users from just siging out and or using sockpupets to ontinue their missdeeds. If you actauly fell like this is wrong, take it up with wikia staff. Second, I'm not sure why your computer keeps getting caught. As I have no access to you or BKK's IP addres, I can't determine what is going on. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

FA

I had a few FA related questions/comments.

• First off, I wrote a FA snippet about Tabuu, which I would love to see on the Main Page.
• Second, do you think I should write a few FA snippets ahead of time and mark the appropriate articles as featured?

• And if yes, which ones would you want me to write about? I'd been thinking of some, but I'm interested in your opinions. Miles (talk - contribs) 03:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Not to seem annoying but I still could use an answer to the previous questions. Also, could you comment on my RfA? Thanks. Miles (talk - contribs) 23:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:FA/17 is ready, I think. And still waiting on the other questions. Miles (talk - contribs) 19:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry, I didn't realise. I was only trying to be helpful like people did for me. I'll stop if you want. --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 19:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, CH! I heard from a reliable source that you know a site that may have info on event match world records. If you do, can you please give me a link? Thanks! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 03:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. I was wondering how the wiki views trophy pages. I feel there needs to be some sort of project to finish the trophy articles, or at least have a picture of the trophy and its description on the list page. Take a look at the list page itself and tell me what you think. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 04:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Smash Arena

I thought you stayed outta my business! WHY DID YOU PROTECT THE SUGGESTIONS PAGE!

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU NOT TO TOUCH MY FUCKING PAGE!!!!

I thought you fucking resolve this shit last month! I know how to work the fucking page! YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO TOUCH MY FUCKING PAGE!!!! WHAT KINDA OF ADMIN ARE YOU! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 05:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was resolved ages ago that

1. SW:NPA is a policy, not a suggestion
2. You can't own a page

But here we are. The suggestions page was being used to vote for characters and not to decide possible smash arena battles, and was an unnecessary burden on the innocent RC. --Shadowcrest 06:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

OMG, shut the fuck up with your fucking wiki rules! HE HAS NO RIGHT TO SECURE THAT PAGE! and what you talking about everyone is voting? let me put these words in BIG texts for you,

THEY ARE FUCKING VOTING FOR THE FIGHT THEY WANT TO FUCKING SEE IN THE FUCKING ARENA!!!!

I'm sorry Shadowcrest, I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the fucking person who fucking screw me over! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Stop with this crap on my talk page. That Forum was not being used to vote on what they wanted to see, but to be used as a secondary Smash Arena. It has completely flooded the recent changes and has no justification on this wiki. Also, you are not the only one who knows how to run that page. And you own nothing on this wiki, nor do I. Had you taken the time to look, I only secured it for two days. This will, I hope, get a cool down and get it back to what it was intended for. Of course, it don't look so good for you being able to run it... Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

You don't know how to run that page either! Did you see an example of Smash Arena from FF wiki and Zeldapedia. In fact, why can they make their fighting page watever into a wiki project page, and mines in stuck in the frickin forums? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, that's not hard to run. As for the second point, this community has different standards. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

If thats the case, why can't you let me run it the way I want it?! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

See above, point two. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

(sigh) Whats the point? Do you even like the idea?? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

No, but I am content to let it remain in the forums. Just not with the double forum. Like I said, the forum was being used as a surrogate for the Smash Arena. I'm not going to fight everyone who wants the arena, but I don't like seeing the Suggestions forum turning into nothing more than "ZZOMG ZLEDA ES BTR THN SHIEK" Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess the users didn't follow the rules. Basically if they love the idea, they are suppose to put their username under "support" or "reject" if they hate it. Then they are suppose to give their reason why they like it or not. And really, they are giving their opinions, they are not fighting for who they think is better. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Squall, I hope you realize that there's 3 pages for the suggestions right now, and about 15 queued matches. That's about 4 months of battles. Are you sure you can handle that? Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'll think of something. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

That's why I recommend using <poll></poll>. That will prevent people from using it the wrong way, stop the RC flooding, and all the general problems. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't like using polls. If they don't do it in Final Fantasy DNC's, Zeldapedia's Temple of Courage, and Kirby's Star Arena, then I absolutely won't do it here. Besides, using the polls will make the page boring, and plus I run the page. If you run the page, you can do the poll, but I'm not doing it! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Even so, I'd suggest YOU (squall) make it clear how things are to be run on the page. If you don't want the sysops to take control of the page, then show some leadership and manage the posters. You can do it, just make sure they know the rules. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I will only except fights I want to see in the arena. However, if the users love it, I will queued it. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

It's up to you, but I'd make a limit to how many posts to be put up in a certain period of time. I'd also make sure that the users are following your established rules, as that's what set CH off (at least I think so). BTW, do you know who made the Squallinoa canceling page? Cheezperson {talk}stuff 07:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

No idea. Basically I'm just following he same aspect as FFwiki. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 07:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Goodbye, Squalinoa. I'm watching this in real time and it was nice knowing you. Semicolon (talk) 06:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sick of being treated like an unexperience wiki user. I know what I'm fucking doin! I know how to operate that page because I've used examples from the other sites! SO WHY DO HE FUCKING TRUST ME?!!!!! This wiki must be the most boringest wiki EVER! Final Fantasy wiki, Zeldapedia, Kingdom Hearts wiki, and all the other wikis in the world are more fun this piece of crappy wiki. You know why? Because all those wikis have one thing in common; THEY DON'T WANNA BE JUST A BORING ENCYCLOPEDIA, BUT A FUN SITE FOR EVERYONE!!!!!! maybe you should learn the very essence of fun next time! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

If I may, I will make a few points.

• 1.No it's not. It's supposed to be a place for people to learn about Super Smash Bros., not a place for the users to go insane and create 5 forums for the same thing.
• 2. As Clarinet Hawk said, this is a different wiki. We have different standards, so if you don't like it, go to one of your other wikis, instead of flaming an admin who did the right thing.
• 3. I'm pretty sure the admins are kind of pissed off at the other wikis too. I don't think they want it to be fun, just informational.

I hope I've made my points clear.O, Mighty Smoreking 13:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Smash Wiki: The Movie

Am I in it? ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just talk to me) 06:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Am I? Masterman Eat Turkey! 14:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Make sure you take Blue Ninjakoopa out. --Anonymous

^Whatever^ Masterman Eat Turkey! 23:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Problems

Listen, I don't really think the Wiki has recently been that - er - protected. This means to all sysops, but because you're the most active, I'm blaming you the most. In the list of the articles which need speedy deletion, there have been many useless pages and stuff, and they still haven't been deleted, even when the sysops were active. And banning users. I understand the need of banning User:Squallinoa_08, but when the creator of Squalinoa_canecling is still not blocked or warned and the uploader of several Rick astley images hasn't been stopped, there's a problem. I know people should have notified you about these vandals, but there were very open chances (for example, you deleted Squalinoa canecling but never blocked the user, who should have been blocked for spam and vandalism - instead, you called it funny). Is there something I'm missing here? METEORITE (t)

I agree with Meteorite on almost everything here except for putting all the blame on CH. We should be grateful about his activity. However, he IS right in everything else. Have you seen the speedy delete pages yet? It's crazy! We need to elect some new sysops, and fast. I don't like the direction this wiki is going. To Meteorite: your best option right now is to support more people on the RfA page. Hooray for self-advertising! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 22:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is to blame here. We need to let Squallinoa and CH come to an agreement on the Smash Arena that they both can agree on. This way none of this can happen again. But I will agree with Cheez and Meteorite that the articles tat need speedy deletion have to be looked, I also agree that we need to get some new sysops. Pikabro^PIKACHU! 22:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

What about some blocks on the users who made those joke articles? I hate to say this, but Smash Arena's not gonna last too long. Squall's savior was actually his own sockpuppet, and that justifies a block. There's not gonna be any agreement. Without Squall, there's no one to run the SA the way it's supposed to run (I'm not doing it). Well, it was fun for a few weeks. Squall, if you're reading this, I'm glad to have met you, and I encourage you to become an active contributor to our wiki once you come back. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

We need to have it like the way Zeldapedia handles it. I really enjoy their Temple of Courage, and that we need to base SA off their rules. They now have it as a very successful project on Zeldapedia, and that it would function a bit better for us if we decide to have SA. It's either ax the entire project or revise it. We should keep it though (my opinion) Friedbeef1 Screech 23:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Guys, aren't you overdoing it? You went from Speedy Delete candidates to Smash Arena. That forum hasn't been updated in a while, and quite frankly, it's badly organized. And C. Hawk, judging but what you told Uber..-Well you know. So, what's going on with the autoblock? MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

For the Suggestions page? It's protected for two days. Friedbeef1 Screech 23:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, as far as the SD pages, I was out taking care of somethings when all that happened. If I seem to be on and not taking care of things, then I probably just am checking my talk page and taking care of some huge issues. As for the blocks, it's standard practice not to block an IP just for a single joke, vandalism, troll, etc. I can go into greater detail as to this if you want me to. As for the arena, I don't know exactly how the other wikis handle things. All I know is that the way it was being handled here went against standards on this wiki. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with why/when you block IPs, because you guys get it done eventually. I'm just asking what's wrong with autoblock. First Cheezperson gets caught in an autoblock 3 times in the past several days, and then earlier today I get caught in one. Like I said, Uber wrote "server glitch". What does he mean? MarioGalaxy {talk} 00:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Please explain the "not to block an IP for a single joke, vandalism, troll, etc." for me. I honestly don't get that, and I should as a sysop-hopeful. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 00:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

As far as the autoblocks, that's nothing I can do myself. It's written in the coding that when a block is issued on a user, all users using that or very similar IPs are also blocked to prevent sockpuppeting. This is not going to change. As long as people notify me about the autoblocks, we'll take care of it. You can go ahead and message my central wikia talk page as well. As for why we don't block IPs for one offense, it is simple. These are often public computers. If we were to block the IP, we have no idea how many legitimate uses we are also blocking. We protect the more targeted pages so that only auto-confirmed users can edit them, thereby preventing abuse. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Eh, OK. I just want to know what's wrong with the autoblock. Whether or not we stop using it doesn't matter to me. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I get it now, but I still don't like it. I doubt the way autoblock works can be changed, so I guess we'll just have to live with it. Oh wait, couldn't you just unblock the trusted users who get blocked? Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

He won't know which users are blocked unless we edit our talk pages (for instance, I asked Charitwo on Central Wikia, who asked Uberfuzzy to help me, which he did). Voila, I am unblocked. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Here's how Zeldapedia does its Temple of Courage, I really like its format. These are rules on the Suggestions page. I disagree with archiving the page after a fight though... Friedbeef1 Screech 00:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• No more than eight suggestions per week.
• 1 support column.
• Signed on users only.
• If a character fought recently, don't suggest him/her in a fight for at least two weeks.
• No talk templates
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it.
• Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
• No duplicate fights (unless it hasn't happened in more than a year)
• All fight suggestions will be archived after a new fight is selected
• A user can only suggest one fight per week (i.e.- you can't suggest 3 fights at one time)
• No suggestion fights 2 weeks in a row.
• Post WHY you support/oppose.
• You can remove your own suggestion, but you may not post a new suggestion until next week.

MG needs to be unblocked. Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 01:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

SA Suggestions page

Could you protect it for a month? It's not necessary for users to suggest stuff, now that there's so many queued fights. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait, how are people supposed to support or reject the suggestions then? Why do we have to put more protection on it? After a month, people will have lost interest.--Gutripper^{Speak if you are worthy} 09:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

There's already a bunch of queued fights, and there really isn't any need to suggest any right now. Even f someone came up with a good idea, they'd have to wait at least 3-4 months before it was an official fight in the Smash Arena. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 05:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Luigi Club

HEY!!! Why did you delete my luigi images, its part of my user page and its not offensive so you cant delete it! Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

*sigh*O, Mighty Smoreking 18:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Are you sighing at me shmore? Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 19:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Just uploading a bunch of pictures is a no-no. I tell you now so Clarinet Hawk doesn't tell you later.^Smoreking^ Give Thanks 19:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

But it was part of my user page not mainspace and userpages are supposed to be for the users enjoyment and other users, mainspace is all the serious stuff. Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 19:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Not on the whole. Yes, user pages are to be used for users to put information or small fun things about themselves. But still, we are not an image hosting service. We also stop short of letting people create huge networks of user subpages to be used as social networking utilities. Your luigi club, on the whole is going to need to move to another site. It belongs on facebook or myspace, not the smash wiki. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 20:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

FINE, if you won't listen to me then i'll move it to UnMario Wiki then. Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 20:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

He did listen. Look one post above yours.^Smoreking^ Give Thanks 20:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Template:FA/17 is ready, according to Miles.^Smoreking^ Give Thanks 20:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

What ever, ive got work to do. Im Alex25, King of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random stuff! 20:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Woah, what font is that for your Sig, Smoreking? It looks aweseom. Friedbeef1 Screech 20:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Galaxia, Autoblock

Hey C. Hawk, it's MG. Galaxia got caught in the autoblock (for Squallinoa, like me). Here's his block ID: #2519. MarioGalaxy {talk} 21:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

That number isn't in the auto-block list. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Strange. Check Galaxia's talk page. He copied and pasted the block message onto it. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Comments welcome

Can you please comment on My featured article drafts and Miles' too?^Smoreking^ Give Thanks 23:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ello

HAI --Anonymous

Hi- forum abuse

I recommend Forum:Most hated Character In Brawl|this forum be deleted. Not surprisingly, it is filled with basically nothing but trolling, flaming, like and such as. Imo, there's no point in keeping the page and I feel it would be better off deleted. --Shadowcrest 23:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I second the above proposal. Nothing but PA's and trolling. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I third this notion. Just don't make it like the SA thing all over again, and Smashwiki burns up due to the flaming. Friedbeef1 Screech 23:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Visit The Link

Don't Ask Why, I Won't Respond. Just Go To The Link And Follow The Instructions. KP317 (talk) 03:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

It would really help if you thought to include a link for me to follow. While we're at it, here's a link for you. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

*Facepalm* Wow... I Can't Believe I Didn't Add The Link. Here: http://kperfekt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=120&page=1 KP317 (talk) 02:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm soft :p. In my day we had the luxury to let such accounts play for a while, but I imagine with the influx of people from Wikia that you have to hold a tighter rein. In any case, I've been catching up on what's happened the past few months and I think you're doing an excellent job around here. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 21:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Item Box (MKDS)]

Hey C. Hawk, it's MG. Jebus4eva made an article titled, well, the link's in this section's title. I put a delete tag on it, and Jebus removed it, after leaving a message on my talk page saying that several articles on SmashWiki have nothing to do with the games/series. I reverted the edit, with my reason as a warning: Don't do that. I figured I'd cut him some slack (since he's a new user), but can you talk to him about this matter? Thanks. MarioGalaxy {talk} 00:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Diffusion Beam glitch

Hey its MysteryHeff, I was just wondering how you do that thing were you feed the wii's signal through the computer or something cause I took a cuople of good pics on the wii of the glitch, please reply on my talk page, thanks.--MysteryHeff ^TALK 07:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, you need some kind of converter equipment. Some computers have built in inputs for coaxial signal. In this case, you'd need to convert the AV output of the Wii to coax (there are cheep boxes that will do this) and then feed it into your computer. There are also some converters that will send RCA outputs on a USB line. EyeTV is a good product for this if you have a Mac. Once the signal is being displayed through your computer, use a screen shot capture program to get the picture. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 18:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

ZeroTwo

I suppose through the inclusion of 0² Battle on Halberd in My Music there's a little relevance; I'm not sure if that's enough to merit undeletion. Miles (talk - contribs) 22:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

An arrangement of a song that plays while an unrelated boss is being fought does not constitute meaningful content. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

On the same argument, it was brought to my attention by another user that the articles on the Mario Kart series mean close to nothing to the series besides stickers, songs, etc. My suggestion is to compress all of these articles into one, big Mario Kart (series) article. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 05:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Do it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. It may need better formatting, though. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 05:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and [Image:ToonGanondorf.jpg|This pic]] needs to go. The user it was meant for isn't going to use it. Sorry I just wasted a ton of space. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Moving Pages

Why did you make it so that only autoconfirmed users could move pages? What if there's a new user that wants to help the wiki when there is a page that needs to be moved? Could you tell me the reason? ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just eat turkey) 06:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

If they're dedicated enough here to move a page, they should have a username. Plus, it cuts down on vandalists. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

And because of Super Freak and LarioGalaxy? ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just eat turkey) 06:23, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Generally speaking, most vandals are IP Addresses, but there are some like the 2 above examples. That's what the administration is here for. "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." I believe Thomas Jefferson said that. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 06:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Basically, we were trying to stop some of wannabe Willy on Wheels running around. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't think Super Freak and LarioGalaxy are wannabe Willy on Wheels, I just think that they are vandal accounts who probably don't even know who WoW is, and nothing said "On Wheels" on anything EITHER of them moved. ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just eat turkey) 08:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

We had an "on wheels" vandal. --Shadowcrest 15:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I generally consider all page move vandals in the category of the most famous of them. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 18:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

He won't listen to me...

Look at Alex25's edit count. He has made 180 edits to user talk pages, but only 4 to the main namespace. Whenever I confront him about this, he goes on my talk page and puts a random link. The one time he listened, he said his computer wasn't good for editing, and he only edits sections of user talks, and says main articles don't have sections. When I told him they did, he ignored me. Since he won't listen to me, I believe if an admin talks to him, he'll start making positive contributions. Thank you for your time(hopefully).Smorekingxg456 23:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I would but I cant think of anything to write. I'm Alex25, King Of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random Stuff! 23:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, then just start with minor things, such as fixing typos, correcting grammar, etc. MarioGalaxy {talk} 23:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Or you could go to Special:Random and see if that page needs cleanup or has any problems, and fix them. Or you can go to Special:DoubleRedirects and try to fix those. And please, don't put random things on talk pages just for "lulz". Try to be serious on a talk page.Smorekingxg456 23:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha! This is where random page comes in handy. I'm Alex25, King Of Randomness! Say Hi to me! Random Stuff! 23:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

If in one week your contributions to the main namespace don't go up, I am going really get on your case.Smorekingxg456 23:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

You're all welcome to tell me this is none of my business, but I'm more than a little surprised by this kind of exhortation. Wikis are based on volunteerism, i.e. no one is forced to contribute, regardless of whether or how they choose to use said wiki. No one, regardless of their number of contributions to the user talk and/or main namespaces should be threatened with administrative action on the basis of too few contributions. – Defiant Elements 23:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

DE is completely right here. There is no requirement that a user must contribute x-ammount to the main namespace. That being said, spamming links to external sites is against policy. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think he was spamming links to external sites, just to random pages here. My two bits on this is as follows: think about why you joined the wiki. was it because you wanted to contribute to the community? Or was it because you wanted to talk and make friends? There are sites specifically designed to meet other people (Myspace, Facebook, etc.), and even some dedicated to Brawl (All is Brawl, SWF, etc.). I'm not telling you to quit, just think about it. 4 mainspace edits are nothing to be ashamed of; you've probably done more than a lot of other users here. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

sig

Would this be an unacceptable sig?

ParaGoomba348 (C'mon, just eat turkey)

23:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I've tried it. The whole enter space thing is weird.Smorekingxg456 23:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

That is exceptionally disruptive, and is therefore ineligable to be a signature. --Shadowcrest 23:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not acceptable. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey it's MH, I was just wondering if you could help me with my sig. After it says 'TALK' in small text I wan't it to say '~CONTRIBS' in small text, but when I try to put that all that into the sig box it doesn't fit. If you know how to help me please reply on my talk page, I wouldn't mind a sig like yours either except I would change the colors to ones that I like.

Thanks.--MysteryHeff ^TALK 12:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

This is the code for my Signature. I hope it helps.

 [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small>

Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Locking My Page Please!?

Hey Hawk, i need my page locked but Silverdragon is not doing it, i was wondering if you could. that would be be much appreciated. also i dont understand why ParaGoomba is such a bad name as i just dont see anything wrong with it, (although i wont object to something i know nothing about). but thanks in advance!

Ssbb legend is in (talk) 07:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

A few disassociated questions

A few things to ask...

1. Could you please protect Template:SubspaceArmy to autoconfirmed? Practically every other day we have a different IP removing Rayquaza, etc.
2. Could you help with my Image Project/Policy?
3. Is there any chance you could look at the RfRs and RfAs? Thanks. Miles (talk) 18:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Team Battle/Brawl

Hey C. Hawk, it's MG. Thanks for the merge, but what about the images? I don't remember the titles, so do you know a way to find them? Plus, by merge (I put the tags), I meant add the Team Brawl information (in general) to Team Battle, and pretty much what you just did. Oh, and on a completely separate, quick, and minor subject, do you mind editing my user page? You see, I have a list of people that I've brawled on WiFi (or will brawl on WiFi), and each user told me (or I found) the color they want their name customized in. Do you mind adding yours (your name is there, just need the color), and, maybe, Semicolon's (if he has a color that you know of that he likes)? Or, you can just tell me the color here, and I'll just edit my page to have your name in that color. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:30, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

The images are unimportant. It's hard for an image to accurately represent doubles play. Also, most of the information was poorly written, was written as a strategy guide (which we don't do), and was not exactly that correct. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the images didn't represent doubles play anyway. They represented the mode, as in how you change to it, how teams would look (colors), etc. But hey, it's your call. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:35, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I think people can find the options menu without our help. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:37, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, now that it's settled, what about your color? Just your preferred color. MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't really care, no offense. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:33, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

About an image, Groudon.JPG, I think is a bit strange, and even though it's just pokemon, I think some may consider it offensive. Sooo, yeah.SmoreKing Happy Holidays! 18:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I definately agree. --Toon Ganondorf^CHAT 21:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Me too. There were a few others I thought I saw, one involving two Gardevoirs, the other two Pikachus. Baltro [ talk ] 21:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Links, please. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

here is the image. METEORITE (t)

They were on CD-i wiki, not here(the gardevoir and pikachu ones.)SmoreKing Happy Holidays! 23:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't do anything about the CD-i wiki, but they probably shouldn't be here. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

You rock. Baltro [ talk ] 21:21, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

deleting

How come my banner thing got deleted when SmoreKing is allowed to have about five. Mine was harmless, his is advertising. That's just plain unfair. --Gutripper^{Speak if you are worthy} 22:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was Rickrolling, or in that case, a link to a video to waste time. If it wasn't intended to be a 'roll prank... then I see no harm in putting that up. METEORITE (t)

I just thought that it was funny. I wouldn't have put it up if Smore King didn't, and if it hadn't been Smash Bros. related. --Gutripper^{Speak if you are worthy} 22:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

SmoreKing's are not at the top of them page where one would expect the "new messages" box. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so copies of the 'new messages' box are not allowed? Is mine acceptable? METEORITE (t)

It's not so much that it's at the top of the page, it's that if they're realistic enough to decieve someone into actually thinking they have new messages then it's disruptive. I just found one the other day that looked identical to a new message box. That's disruptive. One that says "You do not have new messages (but check anyway!)" is obviously a joke, and so it's fine. --Shadowcrest 23:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh you guys, lighten up. I've been had by those kinds of pages more than once or twice, though it was usually a link back to my own homepage iirc. --Sky (t · c · w) 23:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Team Brawl

Why did you merge it into team battle Team Brawl was a better page you should have deleted team battle!!! seriously are you guys here just to tick me off?? -- Jebus4eva^TALK 22:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

First, Team Battle was the correct title. We don't need different pages for each mode in each game if they are the same. Second, in no way was Team Brawl the better page. The writing was quite poor and the strategies (which we stay away from to begin with) were not good. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Archive

Time for another one, CH! You have 35 headings right now... Friedbeef1 Argue 22:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure where this obsession with archives comes from. I usually archive at around 45-50, but it's not a big deal and something I can manage for myself. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:23, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Sig

Thanks for showing concern, but I'm not familiar with how that works. Can you tell me? Koopa Claus ^{Happy Holidays} 05:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Either copy the code from the User:Blue Ninjakoopa/Sig into your raw signature or put {{subst:User:Blue Ninjakoopa/Sig}} there. Substituting is a process that copies the code of the template or page in question to the page after being edited. That way, even if the template is later changed, the page in question isn't. This is sometimes quite useful (such as with signatures or warnings) and other times a bad idea (such as with the tier templates). Hope that clears it up. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I just tried fitting all of that into my raw signature box and it didn't work. Ok, so you want me to copy the HTML code for my sig into {{subst:User:Blue Ninjakoopa/Sig}}, right? I've seen it before. It's just hard to comprehend. Sorry if I'm being a pain in the buttocks >_< Koopa Claus ^{Happy Holidays} 05:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh nevermind I got it. xD Sorry about that. Thanks :) Blue Ninjakoopa 06:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Blue NinjaKoopa has a message banner on his page. It leads to Rick ROlled, which is what mine did. If mine got removed, then so domust his. OTherwise, its not fair. --Gutripper^{Speak if you are worthy} 06:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Geez. What a snitch, amirite, C. Hawk? I removed it. Koopa Claus 06:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Policy violations

Please read User_talk:Blue_Ninjakoopa#New_Sig and the corresponding sections of SW:SIGN, including SmashWiki:Sign_your_comments#Length, SmashWiki:Sign_your_comments#Images, and the as of yet unofficial SmashWiki_talk:Sign_your_comments#Sig_boxes. Additionally, to clarify, which sig did you say yes to, the box one or the text ("Koopa Claus") one? Since the time stamps seem to indicate the text one, yet Blue Ninjakoopa seems to think it is the box one. --Shadowcrest 20:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. How about this image? Will it work? Koopa Claus 21:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Down size it so it is the same height as a line of text. Ask Shadowcrest what the coding for that is; he knows it better than I do. Otherwise, it is fine. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

K how does it look nao? Koopa Klaus 21:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The way it is in User:Blue Ninjakoopa/sig is perfect. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 22:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

About my fan game. I'm not allowed to make those sub-pages? I'm not a snitch, but doesn't Shadowcrest have a mess-load of sub-pages? And I need a dial tone to access the fanon wiki for some reason. No, it's not normal, but it happens. I only have a laptop so a dial tone is unavailable. Koopa Klaus 10:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I have a grand total of 5 pages that were used only for personal benefit, and of those they are all (?) templates for my userspace, none of which are used to socialize. I am not aware of what the standard is for such pages, but I somehow doubt they're disruptive. --Shadowcrest 15:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you would need a dial tone for the fanon wiki. However, in the case of subpages, there is a difference between templates that actually have uses or proposed policies (Shadowcrests) and pointless musings about what you wish could happen. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 15:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

It's really strange. But if I put the info on my user page, it will make it hard for users to actually view it. And Shadowcrest, what about your "char" pages? Koopa Klaus 16:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Not to sound like an ass, but I really am not concerned about how easy it is for other users to view it as it is not topical to this wiki. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 22:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

If you looked at those char pages you would realize that I improved them in order to comply with the merge cleanup thingy :/ --Shadowcrest 00:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Ugh...

Sorry if you took the message on my proboards as a PA. I'm from Long Island. Cursing is in my blood... "Handsome" Hollywood K. 23:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I haven't looked at your proboards in weeks and have no intentions of doing so. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

when you did check you were obviously pissed. "Handsome" Hollywood K. 00:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Help with my Sig.

Hey C. Hawk, it's MG. Do you know the template used when a sig's code is too long for Special:Preferences? Mine is too long, and I forgot the code. All I remember is that it starts with {{Subst or something. MarioGalaxy ^{A Galaxy begins anew...} 00:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

{{subst:User:MarioGalaxy/sig}}.. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. What I mean is the code to put in Special:Preferences so the sig from that page will become my Default sig. I'm pretty sure Crystal Lucario and Pikamander2 use the code, but I'm not sure. It's similar to the code used to connect a Central Wikia user page to any individual user page. MarioGalaxy ^{A Galaxy begins anew...} 00:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Ignore what I had before. I forgot to put the coding in. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I wasn't focusing. Well, thanks for the code. I gotta remove that text. MarioGalaxy ^{A Galaxy begins anew...} 00:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think it worked. Thanks. MarioGalaxy ^{Death has a price. I've paid it...} 00:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

BRAWL

Yo Clari(sorry I do not wish to insult u but if i do it was not intentional), do u wish to brawl. I am sure u will win fore u have t3h ph1re but I wish to test my skills(I don't have any) against somebody. 1290-0089-0429 -Y462 - (Discussion • Christmahannakwanzakuh ) 05:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Tier List of America

Actually, it was simply one I made up. I was basing it off of how often the chars were used, not their meta game. Sorry about that. That's why I haven't been making it such a big deal. Here's what I predict the next tier list will look like. Don't worry, I didn't put anyone in a place in which they don't belong just because I don't like them, and vice versa.

SSBB Tiers
Top	High	Middle	Low
1. Meta Knight 2. Snake 3. Marth 4. Mr. Game & Watch 5. Falco 6. Pikachu	7. King Dedede 8. Wario 9. Lucario 10. Kirby 11. Diddy Kong 12. Toon Link 13. R.O.B. 14. Ice Climbers 15. Wolf 16. Donkey Kong 17. Pit 18. Peach	19. Fox 20. Zelda 21. Olimar 22. Mario 23. Zero Suit Samus 24. Bowser 25. Luigi 26. Ike 27. Sheik 28. Lucas	29. Ness 30. Pokémon Trainer 31. Samus 32. Yoshi 33. Captain Falcon 34. Sonic 35. Link 36. Ganondorf 37. Jigglypuff

Plz tell me your thoughts on the list, for I have studied the meta game for every character in Brawl for months. Koopa Klaus 21:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

One of those Jigglypuffs should disappear. Miles (talk) 21:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry aboot that. Phix'd ^^; Koopa Klaus 22:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

lolz @ Mario over Luigi and Pikacheap over Dedede : ) Cheezperson {talk}stuff 04:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I hate the rat too, Cheez. xD Koopa Klaus 04:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I appriciate the comments about the tier list. I'll go through it once I have time to really look at it and make some judgements (probably after Christmas). However, let's not use my talk page as the discussion area for it. Thanks. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)