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===Most historically significant players=== | |||
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''See also: [[:Category:Peach players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Daisy players (SSBU)]]'' | |||
*{{Sm|Eik|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in Japan in the post-[[COVID-19 pandemic|pandemic]] metagame, first appearing in the offline competitive scene in 2023 with performances such as 7th at {{Trn|Shinosuma HEROES 4}} and {{Trn|Wave 5}}, in addition to wins over {{Sm|Kameme}} and {{Sm|Neo|p=Japan}} at major events. Since then, he has notably placed 4th at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 47}} and 9th at {{Trn|Seibugeki 17}}, and holds a positive record over Umeki. He has appeared on every international ranking since his offline debut, with his best finish being 65th on the [[LumiRank 2024.1]]. | |||
*{{Sm|Kie|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in Japan in the early metagame. Though he also plays {{SSBU|Palutena}} and the {{SSBU|Ice Climbers}}, his best performances, especially in the later months of the early metagame, were often with primarily Peach, including placing 7th at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 11}} and 13th at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 6}}. He was ranked 87th on the [[OrionRank 2019]] with Peach as his main character. Since then, he has seen some good performances such as placing 4th at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 15}}, but has not been able to recapture his performances in the early metagame. | |||
*{{Sm|Leaf|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Mexico}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, and has regularly ranked top 20 in his country. He has found great success at several of Mexico's largest events, including placing 5th at {{Trn|Bonito Harbor}}, 7th at {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}}, and 17th at both {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and {{Trn|Smash Factor 9}}, and has defeated several of Mexico's best players at ranked events, including {{Sm|Skyjay}} and {{Sm|Chag}}. Though never formally ranked globally, he was an honorable mention for both [[LumiRank 2024]] seasons. | |||
*{{Sm|Ling|c1=Peach|c2=Daisy|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, especially in the early years of the post-pandemic metagame, when he ranked as high as 71st on the [[OrionRank 2022]]. He is best known for being the runner-up at {{Trn|Patchwork}}, defeating {{Sm|ShinyMark}} and {{Sm|MVD}} along the way, and has placed well at other superregionals, including 9th at {{Trn|Apex 2022}} and {{Trn|Wavelength 2024}}. In addition, he has placed 9th at both {{Trn|Riptide}} and {{Trn|MomoCon 2022}} and 13th at {{Trn|Pound 2022}}, and has defeated players such as {{Sm|ESAM}} at {{Trn|Pound 2019}} and {{Sm|Sonix}} at {{Trn|CEO 2021}}. | |||
*{{Flag|Netherlands}}{{Sm|Meru|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Europe and the second-best player on the continent in the early months of the early metagame. He was infamous for being the runner-up at many large European events during this time, including {{Trn|Tech Republic IV}}, {{Trn|ICARUS V}}, and {{Trn|DoKomi 2019}}. In addition, he also placed 9th at both {{Trn|Albion 4}} and {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}} and was eventually ranked 35th on the [[OrionRank 2019]]. He moved to Japan in the post-pandemic metagame, and has found some success despite infrequent attendance. | |||
*{{Sm|MuteAce|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - The second-greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time, and the one who has come the closest to matching Samsora's success. He is the only player of either princess to win a major in the post-pandemic metagame, doing so at {{Trn|Patchwork 2024}}, and has placed highly at a variety of other majors, most notably 2nd at both {{Trn|GENESIS 9}} and {{Trn|Cirque Du CFL 3}} and 3rd at several events such as {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}}. He has been ranked in every year, with his highest ranking being 17th on the [[LumiRank 2024.1]], making him the second Peach or Daisy player to rank in the top 20. | |||
*{{Sm|Samsora|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - The greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time and one of the best players in the early metagame. He was the first player of either princess to win a major, and is the only one with multiple major wins, having won {{Trn|Defend the North 2019}} and {{Trn|Shine 2019}}. In addition, he was ranked 2nd on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]], becoming the only Peach or Daisy player to rank in the top 10. He eventually left competitive play following controversies involving him in 2020, and has attended a couple of events since with mixed success. Nevertheless, his results remain largely unmatched, with no other Peach or Daisy players winning a major for several years after he left. | |||
*{{Sm|Umeki|c1=Daisy|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The third-greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time, the greatest in Japan, and the best who primarily pilots Daisy. Though particularly infamous for his inconsistency, he has come close to winning several majors, most notably being the runner-up at {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}}, placing 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}, and placing 5th at both {{Trn|Port Priority 8}} and {{Trn|Sumabato SP 55}}, notably winning the ditto against MuteAce at Port Priority 8. He has been ranked in almost every year, with his highest being 33rd on the [[LumiRank 2023]]. | |||
=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
Throughout ''Ultimate''{{'}}s lifespan, Peach has been more popular than Daisy, with {{Sm|Umeki}} being the only prominent Daisy player at the highest level of competitive play. Despite this, many Peach players, especially at a lower level of competitive play, also play Daisy, and as such, there are often crossovers between the two characters' playerbases. | |||
At the beginning of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in ''SSB4'', thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in ''SSB4'' while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in ''Melee''. | |||
Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as {{Sm|Samsora}}, {{Sm|MuteAce}}, and Umeki. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019. | |||
'' | Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, {{Sm|Samsora}}'s significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as {{SSBU|Cloud}}, {{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}}, and {{SSBU|Sonic}}. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered top tiers, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th. | ||
Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results greatly improved in 2023. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer {{Sm|Eik}} began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list, though due to the restructuring of tiers, they now ranked at the top of S- tier. Though this honeymoon period continued into the first half of 2024, especially as MuteAce won the major {{Trn|Patchwork 2024}}, things would take a downturn in the second half of the year as MuteAce's results suddenly declined. With Umeki's results remaining inconsistent and Eik's results never reaching the heights of the aforementioned two players, there were no Peach or Daisy players in the top 50 on the [[LumiRank 2024.2]]. As such, the two characters slid to 11th on the third tier list, though they remained in the S- tier. | |||
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Latest revision as of 02:27, March 1, 2025
Use this template to store information relevant to the metagame of Peach and Daisy in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Most historically significant players
See also: Category:Peach players (SSBU); Category:Daisy players (SSBU)
Eik 
- One of the best Peach/Daisy players in Japan in the post-pandemic metagame, first appearing in the offline competitive scene in 2023 with performances such as 7th at Shinosuma HEROES 4 and Wave 5, in addition to wins over Kameme and Neo at major events. Since then, he has notably placed 4th at Sumabato SP 47 and 9th at Seibugeki 17, and holds a positive record over Umeki. He has appeared on every international ranking since his offline debut, with his best finish being 65th on the LumiRank 2024.1.- Kie - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in Japan in the early metagame. Though he also plays Palutena and the Ice Climbers, his best performances, especially in the later months of the early metagame, were often with primarily Peach, including placing 7th at Sumabato SP 11 and 13th at Sumabato SP 6. He was ranked 87th on the OrionRank 2019 with Peach as his main character. Since then, he has seen some good performances such as placing 4th at Sumabato SP 15, but has not been able to recapture his performances in the early metagame.
Leaf - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, and has regularly ranked top 20 in his country. He has found great success at several of Mexico's largest events, including placing 5th at Bonito Harbor, 7th at Smash Fest to the Sky, and 17th at both Smash Factor 8 and Smash Factor 9, and has defeated several of Mexico's best players at ranked events, including Skyjay and Chag. Though never formally ranked globally, he was an honorable mention for both LumiRank 2024 seasons.
Ling 
- One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, especially in the early years of the post-pandemic metagame, when he ranked as high as 71st on the OrionRank 2022. He is best known for being the runner-up at Patchwork, defeating ShinyMark and MVD along the way, and has placed well at other superregionals, including 9th at Apex 2022 and Wavelength 2024. In addition, he has placed 9th at both Riptide and MomoCon 2022 and 13th at Pound 2022, and has defeated players such as ESAM at Pound 2019 and Sonix at CEO 2021.
Meru - The best Peach player in Europe and the second-best player on the continent in the early months of the early metagame. He was infamous for being the runner-up at many large European events during this time, including Tech Republic IV, ICARUS V, and DoKomi 2019. In addition, he also placed 9th at both Albion 4 and Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019 and was eventually ranked 35th on the OrionRank 2019. He moved to Japan in the post-pandemic metagame, and has found some success despite infrequent attendance.- MuteAce - The second-greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time, and the one who has come the closest to matching Samsora's success. He is the only player of either princess to win a major in the post-pandemic metagame, doing so at Patchwork 2024, and has placed highly at a variety of other majors, most notably 2nd at both GENESIS 9 and Cirque Du CFL 3 and 3rd at several events such as Let's Make Moves Miami. He has been ranked in every year, with his highest ranking being 17th on the LumiRank 2024.1, making him the second Peach or Daisy player to rank in the top 20.
- Samsora - The greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time and one of the best players in the early metagame. He was the first player of either princess to win a major, and is the only one with multiple major wins, having won Defend the North 2019 and Shine 2019. In addition, he was ranked 2nd on the Fall 2019 PGRU, becoming the only Peach or Daisy player to rank in the top 10. He eventually left competitive play following controversies involving him in 2020, and has attended a couple of events since with mixed success. Nevertheless, his results remain largely unmatched, with no other Peach or Daisy players winning a major for several years after he left.
- Umeki - The third-greatest Peach/Daisy player of all time, the greatest in Japan, and the best who primarily pilots Daisy. Though particularly infamous for his inconsistency, he has come close to winning several majors, most notably being the runner-up at Seibugeki 12, placing 3rd at Umebura SP 6, and placing 5th at both Port Priority 8 and Sumabato SP 55, notably winning the ditto against MuteAce at Port Priority 8. He has been ranked in almost every year, with his highest being 33rd on the LumiRank 2023.
Tier placement and history
Throughout Ultimate's lifespan, Peach has been more popular than Daisy, with Umeki being the only prominent Daisy player at the highest level of competitive play. Despite this, many Peach players, especially at a lower level of competitive play, also play Daisy, and as such, there are often crossovers between the two characters' playerbases.
At the beginning of Ultimate's metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in SSB4, thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in SSB4 while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in Melee.
Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as Samsora, MuteAce, and Umeki. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019.
Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, Samsora's significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as Cloud, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered top tiers, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th.
Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results greatly improved in 2023. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer Eik began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list, though due to the restructuring of tiers, they now ranked at the top of S- tier. Though this honeymoon period continued into the first half of 2024, especially as MuteAce won the major Patchwork 2024, things would take a downturn in the second half of the year as MuteAce's results suddenly declined. With Umeki's results remaining inconsistent and Eik's results never reaching the heights of the aforementioned two players, there were no Peach or Daisy players in the top 50 on the LumiRank 2024.2. As such, the two characters slid to 11th on the third tier list, though they remained in the S- tier.
