User talk:Cookies and Creme/Archive 4

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Sorry for taking your time but...

...whats the diffrence between Category:English smashers and Category:British smashers? 46.229.158.109 05:01, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

Supposedly, English smashers are for players from England, while British smashers are for players from Great Britain as a whole. In other words, if we don't know where a smasher is specifically located, we use the British smashers tag. Unfortunately, currently both categories are a mess, and I don't think anyone had a chance to clean it out yet. CookiesCreme 08:42, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

So, English smashers is like a, sub-category of British smashers? 46.229.158.109 09:26, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

Supposedly. It should be consistent with what we do with Australian, American, and Canadian smashers. CookiesCreme 09:28, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

Voyage Tournament

Hey I just wanted to reach out and see if anything was being planned for Smash Bras Voyage tournament. If not I was going to try to start create pages for the series of qualifying tournaments going on at the moment. Wiifitkid (talk) 13:12, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

I wasn't planning to work on it, so you can go ahead. CookiesCreme 13:26, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

Countdown?

Hey brogod, what's the countdown on your page for? It's getting close to zero and the suspense is killing me. Acgamer28 02:02, May 17, 2020 (EDT)

Cookies is offline and he told me on discord (i'm now inactive) it's his last day of senior year of school. S3AHAWK (talk) 02:24, May 17, 2020 (EDT)

Yeah more specifically, the date of my final exam. After that, my senior year is basically over. CookiesCreme 10:02, May 17, 2020 (EDT)

Sorting fighters

So, when listing fighters in Smasher infoboxes, how are they sorted? SonDaniel (talk page) 15:25, May 24, 2020 (EDT)

I'm assuming this is applying to secondaries, since most smashers only have 1-2 characters they seriously use. I always put secondaries they consistently use first, then characters they have dropped after that. Any other character such as characters they constantly use for sandbagging should go at the end. CookiesCreme 15:32, May 24, 2020 (EDT)

FC?

If you have a Nintendo account linked, can I give you my switch FC?S3AHAWK said ketchup won 14:36, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

Sure, just tell me on Discord, although I don't plan on getting NSO as of right now. CookiesCreme 14:42, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

actually, I lost my password for my discord, but my FC is 6175-0343-9717. S3AHAWK said ketchup won 14:47, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

Since I lost access to discord

I was going to mention in the dm but since I can't, I'll just say it here. From what I see I agree that the best for me to do is indeed to take a break from this wiki. But I'm not leaving the wiki forever, in fact I won't be gone for that long, probably for about a week or so. I was actually planning to take a break from discord as well (but not for 6 months) for a while. I am going to return to discord once the ban is lifted, and all I hope for now is for no one to hold a grudge against me for what happened, and once I do return to discord that I'll be accepted back and can show that I learned my lesson. OmegαToαd64 19:33, June 21, 2020 (EDT)

As long as you learn from your mistakes and properly apologize, I believe everyone would eventually forgive you, even if it takes years. Good luck in the future mate. CookiesCreme 19:44, June 21, 2020 (EDT)

Social Media

Hey Cookies, I was wondering if we could link other social media accounts of related smashers like Facebook. Thanks. S3AHAWK (talk) 21:41, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

My social media are mostly personal, so I don't really give them out to people other than acquaintances I know outside of the internet. Sorry about that. CookiesCreme 22:05, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

I meant other smashers social media. S3AHAWK (talk) 22:12, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

Lol my bad. There isn't anything that says no as far as I know, so I believe you can, but keep in mind that other forms of social media outside of Twitter can be more personal. CookiesCreme 22:37, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

Ah, makes sense. S3AHAWK (talk) 22:40, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

i will eat you

how dare you change bonk's gender —Preceding unsigned comment added by Certainlyfour (talk • contribs) 14:24, July 2, 2020 (EDT)

It's an altered image; he even joked about it on Twitter. CookiesCreme 14:26, July 2, 2020 (EDT)

DQs/Forfeits

The way that I've dealt with cases like these for years is:

1. Full DQ/Forfeit: If they didn't lose at all, it's okay to just put "(DQ)" next to their name without a note.

2. DQ in Losers: Since the implication is that they lost in Winners, obviously it shouldn't be considered a full DQ, so a note is fine.

3. DQ in Winners: I've noticed that you've been listing these as basically being full DQs, but I think this is misguided. There have been plenty of tournaments where a player was DQed in Winners but still played their Losers matches out (the most notable cases being Mango at Press Start and ZeRo at Final Battle, who both still ended up winning their respective tournaments). I think the "DQ in Winners" note should ONLY be reserved for cases like this. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 00:23, August 3, 2020 (EDT)

That's fine. When I put DQ in Winners, I meant they DQ'd from Winners, thus a full DQ, but I do kinda see how that could be misguided as well. CookiesCreme 06:01, August 3, 2020 (EDT)

So...

Do you hate my changes, Cookies and Creme? SafariKid2 (talk) 15:18, November 8, 2020 (EST)

No. I just changed your most recent one because you literally listed every newcomer's splash screen on that one simple Terry trivia. That's overkill. CookiesCreme 15:21, November 8, 2020 (EST)

Oh, sorry. I was just very confused. Sorry if it was overkill. SafariKid2 (talk) 23:15, November 23, 2020 (EST)

What constitutes a minor glitch?

The reason you gave for the deletion of my Min Min T-Pose glitch article is that we don't need one for every minor glitch. The issue is that I don't believe that is a minor glitch. It is a consistently repeatable glitch that has the capability to soft lock the game if the players are not careful. I think the issue is that there is no clear difference between major and minor glitch explained anywhere on this site. The closest thing I can find is that minor glitches have small amounts of information and have been patched out. If that is the case, then there are other patched out glitches that have little information, such as the buster wolf freeze glitch, that still have articles up without issue. What this site needs is a dedicated section that clearly explains the criteria to be a major or minor glitch —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Other Jared (talk • contribs) 15:38, November 8, 2020 (EST)

Quick thing, I wasn't the one who tagged nor deleted the article. I read it as a minor glitch because the deletion reason was "minor glitch. Already mentioned on T-pose article." As for the minor/major glitch distinction, there was a discussion on this a while back ago. It's probably better to ask Aidan, the one who submitted that proposal. CookiesCreme 15:46, November 8, 2020 (EST)

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I went to you first because you were the name that showed up in the message. The Other Jared (talk • contribs) 14:29, November 8, 2020 (EST)

hi

hi --SakuraiWhy 19:54, November 18, 2020 (EST)

Hello. CookiesCreme 19:56, November 18, 2020 (EST)

how r u --SakuraiWhy 19:58, November 18, 2020 (EST)

I'm doing fine. Quick thing, talk pages aren't used for casual talk. That's what our Discord is for. CookiesCreme 19:59, November 18, 2020 (EST)

About Meden/Dream redirect...

Hey, we've been trying to clear up some confusion regarding https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Smasher:Dream&action=history , our tournament result tables and PRs for Melee (dating back to 2015 even) suddenly got a redirect to Meden's page, this might cause some confusion since there are many pages which already got the 'Dream' link. Seeing as Meden doesn't use that tag anymore i don't see how he can claim this page as his own, creating a page seemed the most effective course of action, hmmm so, please don't revert any changes done to this new page unless you got a better reason to do so. t. Drm 11/19/2020 @ 5:48pm (UTC)

Funny, I just posted something on your talk page about it. I redirected all those Dream links to Dream (Mexico) and made a page there. In the future, do that with other players who are linked to a different Smasher. CookiesCreme 12:52, November 19, 2020 (EST)

Thanks, will do! That was an edit by a friend. Didn't know pages could be automatically generated with results like that, and it seems the links were automatically fixed as well. Amazing! Sorry to bother you :p t. Drm 11/19/2020 @ 6:05pm (UTC)

No problem. If you need anything else, you can just message me. CookiesCreme 13:07, November 19, 2020 (EST)

Hey

Thanks for updating that zsaih guy profile i appreciate it alot! Im new im trying my best! Lol DarkRaid17 (talk) 11:50, January 7, 2021 (EST)

No problem. If you need help, you should read SW:NOTABLE and SW:SMASHER or ask me for further questions. CookiesCreme 11:52, January 7, 2021 (EST)

New talk page

Pls don't update things with unprecise and not real infos. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.154.10 (talk • contribs) 12:21, January 16, 2021 (EST)

What? Those were taken straight from kenshu's Smash.gg page. Unless you have proof that it's not the same person, I don't see how it's not real. CookiesCreme 12:23, January 16, 2021 (EST)

This

I understand constantly seeing grammar mistakes might be a little frustrating, but you could have at least provided more information to your advice than just "fix your grammer" (such as when to use certain punctuation). SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 14:18, January 31, 2021 (EST)

To me, it just feels like he's not reading through his edits before submitting, but you're right I should've pointed out specific edits. CookiesCreme 14:21, January 31, 2021 (EST)

I know you (most of you guys, actually) don't really like me too much, but...

Can you give me a link to these so-called "guidelines?" SafariKid2 (talk) 18:26, February 20, 2021 (EST)

These aren't "so-called" guidelines, they actually exist. Start by reading this first. Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 18:28, February 20, 2021 (EST)

Then is that the link for them since they're real, in that case? SafariKid2 (talk) 19:03, February 20, 2021 (EST)

That's where you should start. All the other guidelines are below in the navbox. CookiesCreme 19:04, February 20, 2021 (EST)

PR images

Since you're one of the few people I know of who is involved in the competitive side of the wiki I wanted to ask a couple things regarding Power Ranking images. The first is what category they should be listed under. From what I can see the majority use the same categories as the page they are used on (similar to Smashers). The second is about licensing. A lot seem to be unlicensed but the ones that do have the public domain license on them. I was going through the uncategorized file list and figured I'd leave licensing for another time, but may as well kill two birds with one stone and do both if possible. --CanvasK (talk) 13:40, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

The majority of the PR images I took were either from Twitter or another social media site such as Reddit and SmashBoards via their region's accounts, so I'd assume they would be public domain. As for categories, I believe it's best to categorize them under their PR's category - for example This Maine PR would go under Category:American Power Rankings - in a similar vein to how tournament images are categorized under their tournament's category CookiesCreme 13:47, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

Would this count as public domain? Seems user made would also apply and I've seen a few tagged with it. --CanvasK (talk) 14:21, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure, but if the user made something and posted it on the wiki, I believe it's usually considered public domain? CookiesCreme 14:24, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

Public domain seems the safest and most broad option, so I'll go with that. Thanks --CanvasK (talk) 14:28, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

I won't add in any more examples

I promise not to add in any more examples for victory pose clappers, I won't do it anymore. It is not necessary and it DOES add in more bloat to the section. I really won't do it. I will just keep it as Bowser, Dark Pit, Ridley, Incineroar and Sephiroth. Also, what happens if I do it one last time? 81.110.120.177 02:32, May 29, 2021 (EDT)

It would be considered edit warring, and if an admin is brought attention to it, you'll most likely be issued a block for a few days. CookiesCreme 09:57, May 29, 2021 (EDT)

How does Lucina clap begrudgingly?

Hey! I have a question to ask about clapping animations. You know how some people say that Lucina claps impolitely? Is it true? If yes, tell me how she claps begrudgingly. If you have the game Super Smash Bros Ultimate with Lucina unlocked, please do a 1 stock match as either P1 or CPU and watch her clap and tell me if she is polite or begrudging. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.120.177 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 2021 June 1

First off, you need to sign your comments (~~~~). Second, even if she does clap begrudgingly, the trivia is already dubious (and truthfully, it doesn't even need to exist) and doesn't need any more examples. I suggest you leave that section alone. Omega Toαd, the Toad Warrior. (I'm the best!) 19:26, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Oh, sorry if for not signing my post and also, I don't think Lucina claps begrudgingly. Technically, I think the word 'polite' would be better. 81.110.120.177 10:32, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

On Editing Mains

Hey there! Can I ask how many tournaments a player must attend with a certain character for it to be deemed appropriate to display their main as said character? Thanks! CrocodileSmash (talk) 00:43, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

There isn't a set guideline, so really you should view it case-by-case. But in general, if a player has been committed to a main for at least a month or two in tournament, especially if the player has used the main at regionals and above, I'd say that it's a main. CookiesCreme 00:57, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

How do I know if a player is worth writing a page or not?

Hi Cookies and Creamers (I apologize for the spontaneous nickname and will remove it if you wish so), how do I know if a player deserves an article? I know, of course, if the player itself is a highly distinguished player or at least a professional is obvious, but the lines around content creation sort of blur. To be more specific, I want to write an article on Chippy, you know, the funny Marss guy, but I'm not sure if he falls under "eligible for article writing". As far as I know, he's never been ranked offline or online, but he has taken sets off DM and Unleashed and (after a bit of digging) an online set off Goblin. And, well, everyone knows the funny Marss guy, but I don't think I can proceed. What are the requirements for writing a player article?Certainlyfour (talk) 03:12, June 21, 2021 (EDT)

Not Cookies he should be probably sleeping rn, but I have looked at Chippy results before and I think his results seems already passable overall before the recent invitationals. You should look at the notability guidline tho for more details. If Chippy satisfied the guideline then he is a notable player and therefore can have a page. By the way, Semi-professional exists and I would imagine Chippy having this skill status if he is going to have a page. NPM Morr!? 04:11, June 21, 2021 (EDT)

Even if Chippy doesn't pass notability for being a player (which honestly is rather borderline), I believe his YouTube channel should be enough, with 11k subs and an average of 5k views per video. CookiesCreme 11:00, June 21, 2021 (EDT)

I'm sorry

Hey, I'm sorry for talking about Sonic The Hedgehog and Solid Snake in Super Smash Bros Melee, I do know that Wario was greatly considered but not added due to excessive number of Mario characters. I know it is inaccurate. Also, I know that:

A. Sonic was considered, but not added to Melee. There was no code name for Sonic and Sakurai never intended to have Sonic in Melee.

B. Kojima asked Sakurai if Snake could be in Melee, but development was too far ahead to even add Snake. I now understand that Snake was not planned for Melee.

I'm really sorry and please tell me what I can edit so I don't get told to stop. 94.5.199.60 06:08, June 22, 2021 (EDT)

I'm thinking you're taking the reversions a bit too seriously. Aside from the misconception, there really isn't anything wrong with the edit. People make mistakes like that all the time, and it's natural they get reverted. You're free to edit anything that isn't protected but I do recommend reading this first and going through the guidelines linked in the navbox at the end of the page. CookiesCreme 11:30, June 22, 2021 (EDT)

Age requirement for ssbwiki

Less of a ssbwiki thing and just more a personal thing, is there an age requirement to edit here? Certainlyfour (talk) 02:56, July 11, 2021 (EDT)

Not Cookies but I'll answer your question anyway. Anyone can edit wikis at any age. All that really matters is how you edit, like sometimes kids can be great editors while adults can be trash editors. Omega Toad, the Toad Warrior. (I'm the best!) 03:10, July 11, 2021 (EDT)

Actually I think that because of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act it isn't allowed for kids under 13 to edit with an account, but I might be wrong on this. Rdrfc (talk) 03:34, July 11, 2021 (EDT)

If they were 12 and joined the ssbwiki Discord server they will be kicked for TOS. But on the wiki we had 12 years old users before so I don't think they are necessarily prohibited. NPM Morr!? 04:21, July 11, 2021 (EDT)

From what I know, COPPA only comes into effect if websites want to collect personal information on someone who is under 13. I don't think SmashWiki does that at all. CookiesCreme 10:34, July 11, 2021 (EDT)

Friend Request

Can my favorite ice cream be cookies and ceam? Green

Sure. CookiesCreme 00:05, July 12, 2021 (EDT)

Thanks ;) mine is on my page. Green

Sorry for the late reply. I’m not adding in anymore info boxes atm. Please don’t manually add it for me. CookiesCreme 23:36, July 12, 2021 (EDT)

Ok, sory. Green Just a quick question: why not?

How does Steve affect stage legality?

You seem to be invested in the competitive scene, so I was curious about how the tool type Steve uses to mine affects stage legality. The materials he gets on pokemon stadium or smashville are different than on battlefield or omega stages, and even then he uses either a pickaxe, axe, or shovel on different stages (even battlefield and omega stages), meaning stages where he mines with a shovel give him an advantage since he doesn't use a shovel in any attacks. 68.4.176.97 13:08, July 22, 2021 (EDT)

From what I can tell, it doesn't seem like many people are discussing how Steve's mechanics affect stage legality, especially since it can usually be alleviated by simply doing a stage ban during a set. Of course, offline has only started to return recently so discussion on this would probably become more prominent in the near future. CookiesCreme 13:13, July 22, 2021 (EDT)

Smasher page?

Uh I’m not sure where to put this to notify you but I thought I had everything required for the new smasher page. He is categorized as a smasher, he has an introduction, infobox and tournament results table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smashmouth (talk • contribs) 21:01, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

Just posted on your talk page. Further conversations on this should go there so everything can be in one place. CookiesCreme 21:02, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

Mkleo Summary Page

I know I messed up the first time when editing it but I learnt from my mistakes but the second time you undid it again. When it’s one of your first contributions on the smash wiki and the exact same person throws your efforts away like trash that really hurts but I want to compromise so here it is. Look I will add MainStage to the 2021:Retrun to Glory section this is an important tournamnet because it marks the first time Sparg0 took an offline set form Mkleo and it was also is last tournamnet before going back to Mexico and if you undo it again and add something yourself such as Samsh World Tour championships or MainStage yourself then you most really think your above other people. Sorry if this comes off as too aggressive lol but if you undo this then well please just read it first thanks. ColourGhost (talk) 21:56, November 21, 2021 (EST)

The point you brought up belongs more on Sparg0's tournament history section, whenever it is created, than MkLeo's, as it has less to do with him. As a result, there's no point in adding it to MkLeo's section.

Tournament history sections are supposed to be a summary, not an analysis of every single tournament someone went to. Leo's at the point where his consistent 1st and 2nd placements become redundant to record, and as a result a brief summary is all that really suffice. Of course, a few tournaments like SWT Finale may be an exception as they're more than your average major, but for the most part, there's no need to dive in further.

I apologize if some of my responses have been rather terse, since I've been trying to clean up these sections for ages. However, I'm not trying to "throw away your effort like trash" or to "think I'm above other people." It's just how the wiki works, and unfortunately edits like those create the exact problem we have with the sections at the moment. Even if I ignore the redundant bloat or the messy grammar and syntax, these sections aren't supposed to be "real-time" reports, which is a major problem on many other Smasher pages already. CookiesCreme 22:07, November 21, 2021 (EST)

I accept your apology but you did it two times in a row Lol and considering those were some of my first edits that really hurt me. I know this is a wiki but I was just trying to contribute And I love smash a lot so when I wanted to do something on the wiki and someone was like nope you can’t do that I got really mad. Overall I have a suggestion for you mabey don’t be too aggressive with your edit summary’s because from what i can see I’m not the only person who has been bothered by it. Thanks for your time. ColourGhost (talk) 23:45, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Air Quotes

I know I already brought this up on the Sora talk page but you seriously need to stop using air quotes and take things more seriously.For someone who has. Been trying to clean up the wiki for so long I thought you would take your “job” more seriously but instead your using air quotes and “lectures”. The lectures thing is fine because it’s not really lectures and your helping users out.and also I am taking this seriously it’s not a joke so you need to Star taking this seriously as well (well not that seriously obviously). Also don’t use any excuses like “I’m cleaning up the wiki” cause guess what? Your air quotes are not helping the wiki in the slightest there actually a nuisance. And finally don’t use the excuse like I’m wasting time or using talk pages improperly face your problems head one for once obviously this isn’t too bad but I feel like I need to address it. Also your not winning this one we are not coming to an understanding or having you “win” until you stop using the air quotes so much. Finally,You didn’t have to interject on the Sora talk page I corrected myself and you just had to prolong the conversation becuase that time for once you weren’t helping the wiki and I helped myself so mabey next time actually leave comments when you really need to.sorry if this comes off as to aggressive lol (P.S please take it seriously) tanks for your time!.ColourGhost (talk) 18:01, November 28, 2021 (EST)

"but you seriously need to stop using air quotes"

Are you seriously upset at me using air quotes? That's something very nitpicky to pick on.

"I thought you would take your “job” more seriously"

I'm going to correct you here. SmashWiki isn't a job; it's a community effort done by members from all around the world, and I just so happen to be one of them.

"Your air quotes are not helping the wiki in the slightest there actually a nuisance...becuase that time for once you weren’t helping the wiki"

This is big coming from someone who has done nothing but make bad edits and then complain when they are removed. I've done a lot of work on the wiki, which you can check in my contributions section. Just because I made a few comments that just so happened to be towards you doesn't mean I've done nothing, and it's extremely childish to think a comment made by a single user is bringing the wiki down.

"Also your not winning this one we are not coming to an understanding or having you “win” until you stop using the air quotes so much."

Who's "we"? What are you trying to win? Seems like you're overexaggerating something in your mind and acting as if it's real.

"Finally,You didn’t have to interject on the Sora talk page I corrected myself and you just had to prolong the conversation"

Let's look at the comment, shall we?

"Oops my bad he only has competitive play but still unfair add competitive play for Sora"

You were complaining that it was unfair that other characters had a "competitive play" section but Sora did not. I merely stated that Sora could/should have one, but that there wouldn't be much to add since the metagame for the character is early. You were clearly still on the topic, and I responded.

"P.S please take it seriously"

I can't take it seriously if you're upset at me for simply using air quotes, responding in an angry paragraph that I can barely understand, and ending it off with "lol."

You claim you know how the wiki works, yet you're taking the comments I make as a personal attack, and then making it out as something that is much bigger than it should. It's great that you want to help out on the wiki, but if you're just going to complain when people correct you, then nothing is going to change. Maybe instead of talking about what I'm doing, you should focus on what you're doing. CookiesCreme 18:33, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Ok yeah most of the things you said were true and this paragraph was a joke the only thing I disagree with is the “make nothing but bad edits and then complain” the only thing I take as an personal attack is that (but not really’ and also none of this is serious but your reply kinda is so Sorry for wasting your time, But one thing I said is true you come off as though this is a community making efforts to maintain a wiki but I actually think it’s just a few select people doing things and saying everything anyone else dose “sucks” I’m not saying stop what your doing and I’m not being childish I guess waht I really want is for you to apologise for being so harsh on me after that we’re good I’m probably not really gonna edit anything execpt like mabey Sora page and the. Like a few select comeptitors (I.e zackray,Mkleo etc.) but also if you look at my contributions the first edit I made was correcting someone about Soras fianl boss on classic route at first it was Master Hand and then I deleted it and said in the summary Actually it’s Master Hand And Crazy Hand. so I have it just joined this wiki and and made bad edits. Also three last things 1.If I make another bad edit I hope that it gets corrected by anyone but you. 2.The entire FGC can never take smash seriously and I don’t anyone ever can 3.This community sucks did you not see how many sexual assault aleegations there are? And there are whole bunch of bad people in it.Goodbye,Sorry for wasting your time And I wish you the best of luck.ColourGhost (talk) 18:55, November 28, 2021 (EST)

If you're going to backtrack on your statement, which you told me to take serious; refuse to listen to anything that we say, instead complaining it's "too harsh"; spout stuff that has nothing to do with this conversation; and then personally attack me on your userpage, then I'm going to be really honest, you're either too young or too immature to be editing on this wiki. CookiesCreme 00:10, November 29, 2021 (EST)

Random Question

btw Randim question but do you have a fandom account? (I swear this the last thing) ColourGhost (talk) 19:03, November 28, 2021 (EST)