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==Update History== | ==Update History== | ||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|11.0.0}} | |||
*{{nerf|Min Min cannot hold the forward smash charge as long after it is fully charged (120 frames → 30).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward smash has less base knockback for the dragon's lasers while using Dragon ARM (70 → 65).}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|13.0.1}} | '''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|13.0.1}} | ||
*{{nerf|The ARM has negative shield damage (0 (all) → -4 (Ramram)/-6 (Megawatt)/-3.5 (Dragon).}} | *{{nerf|The ARM has negative shield damage (0 (all) → -4 (Ramram)/-6 (Megawatt)/-3.5 (Dragon).}} | ||
==Hitbox | *{{nerf|Forward smash's Dragon laser has less active frames.}} | ||
==Hitbox visualizations== | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-center: auto; margin-center: 0px;" | {| class="wikitable" style="margin-center: auto; margin-center: 0px;" | ||
!!!Uncharged!!Charged!!Beam!!Beam detect | !!!Uncharged!!Charged!!Beam!!Beam detect | ||
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|[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashRamram.gif|180px]]||[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashChargedRamram.gif|180px]]||—||— | |[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashRamram.gif|180px]]||[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashChargedRamram.gif|180px]]||—||— | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
*All ARMs have their damage reduced by 0.7× if they bounce off solid terrain, which fully affects the [[knockback]] they deal. | |||
*The ARMs' hitboxes change if the move is charged for at least 17 frames. Additionally, unlike other [[smash attack]]s, it can only be held for up to 30 frames upon reaching full charge instead of 120 frames. | |||
===Dragon=== | ===Dragon=== | ||
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 28: | Line 38: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=87 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 42: | Line 53: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 48: | Line 59: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=87 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 62: | Line 74: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 68: | Line 80: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=78 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 76: | Line 89: | ||
|ypos=0.5 | |ypos=0.5 | ||
|zpos=0.0 | |zpos=0.0 | ||
|ff=0 | |ff=1.0 | ||
|type=Hand | |type=Hand | ||
|effect=Normal | |effect=Normal | ||
Line 82: | Line 95: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 88: | Line 101: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=80 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 102: | Line 116: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 108: | Line 122: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 122: | Line 137: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 128: | Line 143: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.2 | |r=3.2 | ||
Line 142: | Line 158: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 148: | Line 164: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 162: | Line 179: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 168: | Line 185: | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |sd=-3.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 182: | Line 200: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Laser|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=7.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=70 | |bk=70 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 203: | Line 222: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser, charged|42}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|damage=12.0% | |||
|angle=361 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=65 | |||
|ks=70 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=2.8 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=0.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=4.0 to 30.0 | |||
|ff=1.0 | |||
|type=Energy | |||
|effect=Flame | |||
|sfx=Fire | |||
|slvl=L | |||
|clang=f | |||
|rebound=f | |||
|direct=f | |||
}} | |||
|} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableHeader}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser aiming detector|24}} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|r=23.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=-30.0 | |||
|ypos=4.0 to -4.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== | |||
===Dragon Plus=== | |||
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | ||
|sd=- | |sd=-4.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=75 | |ks=75 | ||
Line 227: | Line 284: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | ||
|sd=- | |sd=-4.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=75 | |ks=75 | ||
Line 247: | Line 305: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|20.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|20.0}} | ||
|sd=- | |sd=-4.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 267: | Line 326: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.25}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.25}} | ||
|sd=- | |sd=-4.5 | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=70 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.2 | |r=3.2 | ||
Line 287: | Line 347: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Laser|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=12.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=65 | |bk=65 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 308: | Line 369: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
}} | |||
|} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableHeader}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser aiming detector|24}} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|r=23.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=-30.0 | |||
|ypos=4.0 to -4.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
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===Megawatt=== | ===Megawatt=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 319: | Line 392: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=77 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 333: | Line 407: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 339: | Line 413: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=77 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.7 | |r=3.7 | ||
Line 353: | Line 428: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 359: | Line 434: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |||
|ks=77 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=3.7 | |||
|bn=center | |||
|xpos=-1.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
|ff=1.0 | |||
|type=Hand | |||
|effect=Normal | |||
|sfx=Megawatt Punch | |||
|slvl=M | |||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | |||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=74 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.7 | |r=3.7 | ||
Line 373: | Line 470: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 379: | Line 476: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 393: | Line 491: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early and late hits, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 399: | Line 497: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 413: | Line 512: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 419: | Line 518: | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |sd=-6.0 | ||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 434: | Line 534: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Ramram=== | ===Ramram=== | ||
The ring's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 442: | Line 544: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 456: | Line 559: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 462: | Line 565: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 476: | Line 580: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 482: | Line 586: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 496: | Line 601: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Ring| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Ring|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=35 | |bk=35 | ||
|ks=85 | |ks=85 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | |ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | ||
Line 516: | Line 622: | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 522: | Line 628: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 536: | Line 643: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 542: | Line 649: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 556: | Line 664: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
Line 562: | Line 670: | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |sd=-4.0 | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=57 | |ks=57 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 576: | Line 685: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Ring, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Ring, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=90 | |ks=90 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | |ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | ||
Line 597: | Line 707: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Timing== | ==Timing== | ||
===Dragon/ | While attacking with an ARM, Min Min can attack with her other ARM either forward or backward, as well as aim the active ARM vertically as it extends. | ||
The duration of each ARM's attack depends on the time it takes Min Min to fully retract it, which is shorter the sooner it hits an opponent or solid surface, and has some additional lag if [[shield]]ed. The framestrips below show three timings: fully extended without hitting, hitting an opponent as soon as possible, and getting blocked by a shield as soon as possible. In the case of Ramram, hitting an opponent does not affect its timing, but hitting a shield or solid surface does, which also prevents it from shooting out the ring. | |||
===Dragon / Dragon Plus=== | |||
The Dragon ARM can shoot a laser by holding the attack button as it extends. It can still fire the laser upon hitting an opponent, but not if it is shielded or rebounds off a solid surface. | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
!Charges between | !Charges between | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|20-24 | |20-24 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Late | !Late hit | ||
|25-29 | |25-29 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Earliest next ARM | !Earliest next ARM | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Laser aiming detector (full, on hit) | ||
| | |32-39, 19-26 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Laser hitbox (full, on hit) | ||
| | |40-49, 27-36 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Ending portion (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
| | |47, 66, 28, 53, 33 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
| | |66, 85, 47, 72, 52 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Animation length (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
|81 | |81, 100, 62, 87, 67 | ||
|} | |||
{{FrameStripStart}} | |||
!Full {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=17|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=19}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Interruptible | !rowspan=2|Full with laser {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Search|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=26|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=39|e=BlankPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10|s=HitboxPropE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=51}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!On hit {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=11|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=38}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | !rowspan=2|On hit with laser {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=2|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Search|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=26|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=13}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=26|e=BlankPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10|s=HitboxPropE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=64}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=16|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=33}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
===Megawatt=== | ===Megawatt=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
Line 657: | Line 768: | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|20-31 | |20-31 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Late | !Late hit | ||
|32-38 | |32-38 | ||
|- | |- | ||
Line 672: | Line 780: | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Ending portion (full, on hit, blocked) | ||
| | |57, 20, 39 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (full, on hit, blocked) | ||
|58 | |76, 39, 58 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Animation length (full, on hit, blocked) | |||
|91, 54, 73 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Full {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=12|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=7|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=18|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!On hit {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=37}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=22|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=18}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
Line 695: | Line 803: | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-18 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|19-25 | |19-25 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Ring | !Ring hitbox | ||
|26-35 | |26-35 | ||
|- | |- | ||
Line 710: | Line 815: | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Ending portion (full, blocked) | ||
| | |39, 37 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (full, blocked) | ||
| | |58, 56 | ||
|- | |||
!Animation length (full, blocked) | |||
|73, 71 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Full (ARM) {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=7|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13|s=LagPropE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Full (ring) {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=25}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=35}} | |||
|- | |||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=20|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=2}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|charge=y|earliestcontinuable=y}} | {{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|charge=y|earliestcontinuable=y|prop=y|state=y|search=y|interruptible=y}} | ||
{{MvSubNavMinMin|g=SSBU}} | {{MvSubNavMinMin|g=SSBU}} | ||
[[Category:Min Min (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Min Min (SSBU)]] | ||
[[Category:Forward smashes (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Forward smashes (SSBU)]] |
Latest revision as of 23:10, August 10, 2022
Update History[edit]
- Min Min cannot hold the forward smash charge as long after it is fully charged (120 frames → 30).
- Forward smash has less base knockback for the dragon's lasers while using Dragon ARM (70 → 65).
- The ARM has negative shield damage (0 (all) → -4 (Ramram)/-6 (Megawatt)/-3.5 (Dragon).
- Forward smash's Dragon laser has less active frames.
Hitbox visualizations[edit]
Uncharged | Charged | Beam | Beam detect | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Dragon | ||||
Power Dragon | — | |||
Megawatt | — | — | ||
Ramram | — | — |
Hitboxes[edit]
- All ARMs have their damage reduced by 0.7× if they bounce off solid terrain, which fully affects the knockback they deal.
- The ARMs' hitboxes change if the move is charged for at least 17 frames. Additionally, unlike other smash attacks, it can only be held for up to 30 frames upon reaching full charge instead of 120 frames.
Dragon[edit]
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
ID | Radius | Bone | Offset | G | A | ||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Laser aiming detector | |||||||||||||||||||||||
0 | 23.0 | top | -30.0 | 4.0 to -4.0 | 0.0 |
Dragon Plus[edit]
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
ID | Radius | Bone | Offset | G | A | ||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Laser aiming detector | |||||||||||||||||||||||
0 | 23.0 | top | -30.0 | 4.0 to -4.0 | 0.0 |
Megawatt[edit]
Ramram[edit]
The ring's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
Timing[edit]
While attacking with an ARM, Min Min can attack with her other ARM either forward or backward, as well as aim the active ARM vertically as it extends.
The duration of each ARM's attack depends on the time it takes Min Min to fully retract it, which is shorter the sooner it hits an opponent or solid surface, and has some additional lag if shielded. The framestrips below show three timings: fully extended without hitting, hitting an opponent as soon as possible, and getting blocked by a shield as soon as possible. In the case of Ramram, hitting an opponent does not affect its timing, but hitting a shield or solid surface does, which also prevents it from shooting out the ring.
Dragon / Dragon Plus[edit]
The Dragon ARM can shoot a laser by holding the attack button as it extends. It can still fire the laser upon hitting an opponent, but not if it is shielded or rebounds off a solid surface.
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-19 |
Clean hit | 20-24 |
Late hit | 25-29 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Laser aiming detector (full, on hit) | 32-39, 19-26 |
Laser hitbox (full, on hit) | 40-49, 27-36 |
Ending portion (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 47, 66, 28, 53, 33 |
Interruptible (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 66, 85, 47, 72, 52 |
Animation length (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 81, 100, 62, 87, 67 |
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On hit | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Blocked |
Megawatt[edit]
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-19 |
Clean hit | 20-31 |
Late hit | 32-38 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Ending portion (full, on hit, blocked) | 57, 20, 39 |
Interruptible (full, on hit, blocked) | 76, 39, 58 |
Animation length (full, on hit, blocked) | 91, 54, 73 |
Full | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Blocked |
Ramram[edit]
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-18 |
Clean hit | 19-25 |
Ring hitbox | 26-35 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Ending portion (full, blocked) | 39, 37 |
Interruptible (full, blocked) | 58, 56 |
Animation length (full, blocked) | 73, 71 |
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Blocked |
Lag time |
Charge interval |
Hitbox |
Hitbox change |
State change |
Earliest continuable point |
Prop event |
Interruptible |
Searchbox |
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