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== | ==Update History== | ||
==Hitbox | '''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|11.0.0}} | ||
*{{nerf|Min Min cannot hold the forward smash charge as long after it is fully charged (120 frames → 30).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward smash has less base knockback for the dragon's lasers while using Dragon ARM (70 → 65).}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|13.0.1}} | |||
*{{nerf|The ARM has negative shield damage (0 (all) → -4 (Ramram)/-6 (Megawatt)/-3.5 (Dragon).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward smash's Dragon laser has less active frames.}} | |||
==Hitbox visualizations== | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-center: auto; margin-center: 0px;" | {| class="wikitable" style="margin-center: auto; margin-center: 0px;" | ||
!!!Uncharged!!Charged!!Beam!!Beam detect | !!!Uncharged!!Charged!!Beam!!Beam detect | ||
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|[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashRamram.gif|180px]]||[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashChargedRamram.gif|180px]]||—||— | |[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashRamram.gif|180px]]||[[File:MinMinSSpecialSmashChargedRamram.gif|180px]]||—||— | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
*All ARMs have their damage reduced by 0.7× if they bounce off solid terrain, which fully affects the [[knockback]] they deal. | |||
*The ARMs' hitboxes change if the move is charged for at least 17 frames. Additionally, unlike other [[smash attack]]s, it can only be held for up to 30 frames upon reaching full charge instead of 120 frames. | |||
===Dragon=== | ===Dragon=== | ||
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=87 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 39: | Line 53: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=87 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 58: | Line 74: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.0}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=78 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 71: | Line 89: | ||
|ypos=0.5 | |ypos=0.5 | ||
|zpos=0.0 | |zpos=0.0 | ||
|ff=0 | |ff=1.0 | ||
|type=Hand | |type=Hand | ||
|effect=Normal | |effect=Normal | ||
Line 77: | Line 95: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.0}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=80 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=2.9 | |r=2.9 | ||
Line 96: | Line 116: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 115: | Line 137: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.2 | |r=3.2 | ||
Line 134: | Line 158: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|18.4}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|18.4}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 153: | Line 179: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|14.95}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|14.95}} | ||
|sd=-3.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 172: | Line 200: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Laser|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=7.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=70 | |bk=70 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 193: | Line 222: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser, charged|42}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|damage=12.0% | |||
|angle=361 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=65 | |||
|ks=70 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=2.8 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=0.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=4.0 to 30.0 | |||
|ff=1.0 | |||
|type=Energy | |||
|effect=Flame | |||
|sfx=Fire | |||
|slvl=L | |||
|clang=f | |||
|rebound=f | |||
|direct=f | |||
}} | |||
|} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableHeader}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser aiming detector|24}} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|r=23.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=-30.0 | |||
|ypos=4.0 to -4.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== | |||
===Dragon Plus=== | |||
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=75 | |ks=75 | ||
Line 216: | Line 284: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=75 | |ks=75 | ||
Line 235: | Line 305: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|20.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|20.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 254: | Line 326: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.25}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16.25}} | ||
|sd=-4.5 | |||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks= | |ks=70 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.2 | |r=3.2 | ||
Line 273: | Line 347: | ||
|slvl=H | |slvl=H | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Laser|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=12.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|bk=65 | |||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
Line 296: | Line 371: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableHeader}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Laser aiming detector|24}} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|r=23.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=-30.0 | |||
|ypos=4.0 to -4.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
}} | |||
|} | |||
===Megawatt=== | ===Megawatt=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=77 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
Line 317: | Line 407: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=77 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.7 | |r=3.7 | ||
Line 336: | Line 428: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.0}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |||
|ks=77 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=3.7 | |||
|bn=center | |||
|xpos=-1.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
|ff=1.0 | |||
|type=Hand | |||
|effect=Normal | |||
|sfx=Megawatt Punch | |||
|slvl=M | |||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|42}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|19.0}} | |||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks= | |ks=74 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.7 | |r=3.7 | ||
Line 355: | Line 470: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.85}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.85}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 374: | Line 491: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early and late hits, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.85}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|21.85}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 393: | Line 512: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|24.15}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|24.15}} | ||
|sd=-6.0 | |||
|angle=45 | |angle=45 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=48 | |bk=48 | ||
|ks=70 | |ks=70 | ||
Line 413: | Line 534: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Ramram=== | ===Ramram=== | ||
The ring's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 434: | Line 559: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks= | |ks=75 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 453: | Line 580: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|12.0}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 472: | Line 601: | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Ring| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Ring|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=35 | |bk=35 | ||
|ks=85 | |ks=85 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | |ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | ||
Line 492: | Line 622: | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Earliest hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|11.5}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|11.5}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=0.7 | |r=0.7 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 511: | Line 643: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|11.5}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|11.5}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=67 | |ks=67 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 530: | Line 664: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | |damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|13.8}} | ||
|sd=-4.0 | |||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=57 | |ks=57 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 | |ypos=2.0 | ||
Line 549: | Line 685: | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Ring, | {{HitboxTableTitle|Ring, charged|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage= | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=90 | |ks=90 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=4.0 | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn= | |bn=cakram1 | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | |ypos=2.0 to -2.0 | ||
Line 570: | Line 707: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Timing== | ==Timing== | ||
===Dragon/ | While attacking with an ARM, Min Min can attack with her other ARM either forward or backward, as well as aim the active ARM vertically as it extends. | ||
The duration of each ARM's attack depends on the time it takes Min Min to fully retract it, which is shorter the sooner it hits an opponent or solid surface, and has some additional lag if [[shield]]ed. The framestrips below show three timings: fully extended without hitting, hitting an opponent as soon as possible, and getting blocked by a shield as soon as possible. In the case of Ramram, hitting an opponent does not affect its timing, but hitting a shield or solid surface does, which also prevents it from shooting out the ring. | |||
===Dragon / Dragon Plus=== | |||
The Dragon ARM can shoot a laser by holding the attack button as it extends. It can still fire the laser upon hitting an opponent, but not if it is shielded or rebounds off a solid surface. | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
!Charges between | !Charges between | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|20-24 | |20-24 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Late | !Late hit | ||
|25-29 | |25-29 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Earliest next ARM | !Earliest next ARM | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Laser aiming detector (full, on hit) | ||
| | |32-39, 19-26 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Laser hitbox (full, on hit) | ||
| | |40-49, 27-36 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Ending portion (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
| | |47, 66, 28, 53, 33 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
| | |66, 85, 47, 72, 52 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Animation length (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | ||
|81 | |81, 100, 62, 87, 67 | ||
|} | |||
{{FrameStripStart}} | |||
!Full {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=17|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=19}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Interruptible | !rowspan=2|Full with laser {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Search|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=26|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=39|e=BlankPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10|s=HitboxPropE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=51}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!On hit {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=11|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=38}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | !rowspan=2|On hit with laser {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=2|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Search|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=26|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=13}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=26|e=BlankPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10|s=HitboxPropE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=64}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=16|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=33}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
===Megawatt=== | ===Megawatt=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
Line 630: | Line 768: | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|20-31 | |20-31 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Late | !Late hit | ||
|32-38 | |32-38 | ||
|- | |- | ||
Line 645: | Line 780: | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Ending portion (full, on hit, blocked) | ||
| | |57, 20, 39 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (full, on hit, blocked) | ||
|58 | |76, 39, 58 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Animation length (full, on hit, blocked) | |||
|91, 54, 73 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Full {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=12|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=7|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=18|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!On hit {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=37}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=22|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=18}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
===Ramram=== | ===Ramram=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
Line 667: | Line 803: | ||
|8-9 | |8-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Early hit | ||
|16 | |16, 17-18 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Clean hit | ||
|19-25 | |19-25 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Ring | !Ring hitbox | ||
|26-35 | |26-35 | ||
|- | |- | ||
Line 682: | Line 815: | ||
|17 | |17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Interruptible | !Ending portion (full, blocked) | ||
| | |39, 37 | ||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (full, blocked) | |||
|58, 56 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Animation length (full, blocked) | ||
| | |73, 71 | ||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Full (ARM) {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxChangeS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxContinuableE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=7|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13|s=LagPropE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}} | |||
|- | |||
!Full (ring) {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=25}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=10}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=35}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Blocked {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=HitboxContinuableS|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=20|s=LagContinuableE|e=LagStateS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=19|s=LagStateE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=2}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|charge=y| | {{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|charge=y|earliestcontinuable=y|prop=y|state=y|search=y|interruptible=y}} | ||
{{MvSubNavMinMin|g=SSBU}} | {{MvSubNavMinMin|g=SSBU}} | ||
[[Category:Min Min (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Min Min (SSBU)]] | ||
[[Category:Forward smashes (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Forward smashes (SSBU)]] |
Latest revision as of 23:10, August 10, 2022
Update History[edit]
- Min Min cannot hold the forward smash charge as long after it is fully charged (120 frames → 30).
- Forward smash has less base knockback for the dragon's lasers while using Dragon ARM (70 → 65).
- The ARM has negative shield damage (0 (all) → -4 (Ramram)/-6 (Megawatt)/-3.5 (Dragon).
- Forward smash's Dragon laser has less active frames.
Hitbox visualizations[edit]
Uncharged | Charged | Beam | Beam detect | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Dragon | ||||
Power Dragon | — | |||
Megawatt | — | — | ||
Ramram | — | — |
Hitboxes[edit]
- All ARMs have their damage reduced by 0.7× if they bounce off solid terrain, which fully affects the knockback they deal.
- The ARMs' hitboxes change if the move is charged for at least 17 frames. Additionally, unlike other smash attacks, it can only be held for up to 30 frames upon reaching full charge instead of 120 frames.
Dragon[edit]
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
ID | Radius | Bone | Offset | G | A | ||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Laser aiming detector | |||||||||||||||||||||||
0 | 23.0 | top | -30.0 | 4.0 to -4.0 | 0.0 |
Dragon Plus[edit]
The laser's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
ID | Radius | Bone | Offset | G | A | ||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Laser aiming detector | |||||||||||||||||||||||
0 | 23.0 | top | -30.0 | 4.0 to -4.0 | 0.0 |
Megawatt[edit]
Ramram[edit]
The ring's damage is not affected by charging or the ARM bouncing off terrain.
Timing[edit]
While attacking with an ARM, Min Min can attack with her other ARM either forward or backward, as well as aim the active ARM vertically as it extends.
The duration of each ARM's attack depends on the time it takes Min Min to fully retract it, which is shorter the sooner it hits an opponent or solid surface, and has some additional lag if shielded. The framestrips below show three timings: fully extended without hitting, hitting an opponent as soon as possible, and getting blocked by a shield as soon as possible. In the case of Ramram, hitting an opponent does not affect its timing, but hitting a shield or solid surface does, which also prevents it from shooting out the ring.
Dragon / Dragon Plus[edit]
The Dragon ARM can shoot a laser by holding the attack button as it extends. It can still fire the laser upon hitting an opponent, but not if it is shielded or rebounds off a solid surface.
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-19 |
Clean hit | 20-24 |
Late hit | 25-29 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Laser aiming detector (full, on hit) | 32-39, 19-26 |
Laser hitbox (full, on hit) | 40-49, 27-36 |
Ending portion (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 47, 66, 28, 53, 33 |
Interruptible (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 66, 85, 47, 72, 52 |
Animation length (full, full w/laser, on hit, on hit w/laser, blocked) | 81, 100, 62, 87, 67 |
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On hit | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Blocked |
Megawatt[edit]
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-19 |
Clean hit | 20-31 |
Late hit | 32-38 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Ending portion (full, on hit, blocked) | 57, 20, 39 |
Interruptible (full, on hit, blocked) | 76, 39, 58 |
Animation length (full, on hit, blocked) | 91, 54, 73 |
Full | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Blocked |
Ramram[edit]
Charges between | 8-9 |
---|---|
Early hit | 16, 17-18 |
Clean hit | 19-25 |
Ring hitbox | 26-35 |
Earliest next ARM | 17 |
Ending portion (full, blocked) | 39, 37 |
Interruptible (full, blocked) | 58, 56 |
Animation length (full, blocked) | 73, 71 |
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Blocked |
Lag time |
Charge interval |
Hitbox |
Hitbox change |
State change |
Earliest continuable point |
Prop event |
Interruptible |
Searchbox |
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