Daisy (SSBU)/Down special

Hitbox visualization showing Daisy's down special, Vegetable.

Overview

With Daisy's down special, plucks a Vegetable from Super Mario Bros. 2 from the ground. She can then throw it as a projectile item. Its face determines how much damage it will do; the rarer the expression, the stronger the turnip. Along with turnips, Daisy can rarely pull out Mr. Saturns and Bob-ombs.

It is a decent edgeguarding tool as it can disrupt an opponent's recovery. If the turnip bounces back on the opponent and the turnip is close to Daisy's hand, she can air grab the turnip and throw it back at the opponent.

In competitive play, it is common for Daisy players to use the down special at the start of the game. After KOing an opponent, they take advantage of the time interval for the opponent to get back on stage by using the down special until they get the desired item; if they do not have enough time, they will use the item they have.

Grin, Stare, Closed Eyes, Surprised, Happy

Despite the different expressions the turnip has, they deal the same amount of damage and have the same knockback. The probabilities of pulling these turnips altogether is 89%.

Daisy can perform turnip combos such as turnip throw to a dash attack at low percentages. She can also perform zero-to-death combos with a turnip.

Wink

Turnip with the third strongest knockback with the maximum of 10% damage.

Dot-Eyes

Turnip with the second strongest knockback with the maximum of 16% damage.

Stitch-Face

The turnip with the strongest knockback with the maximum of 24% damage. It can KO the opponent at reasonable percentages.

Mr. Saturn

The second rarest item to pull from the down special, Daisy can use Mr. Saturn as a shield breaking tool. The opponent can use it too if it is not in Daisy's hands.

Bob-omb

The rarest item to pull from the down special, Daisy can kill the opponent at low percentages. The Bob-omb will not hurt her if she throws it unless she does not throw the Bob-omb. The Bob-omb can also hurt her if the opponent attacks Daisy holding it. However, if the opponent has a reflection move, the Bob-omb will hurt Daisy. To counter this, Daisy has to mix her timing to bait her opponent into reflecting.

Daisy can perform a combo with a Bob-omb by performing two down aerial while floating, then position herself to throw the Bob-omb onto the opponent. This can kill the opponent early at 0%.

Update History

3.0.0

• Vegetable's knockback values have been adjusted (30 (base), 35 (scaling) → 25/45), making it identical to Peach's variant. This improves its combo potential at lower percents, and its KOing and gimping potential at higher ones.
  • However, this limits the move's combo potential at higher percents.
• Vegetable deals less shield damage.

3.1.0

• Vegetable has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).

Hitboxes

Each turnip type has a unique base damage defined in their parameters. Per the item throw damage formula, the effective damage of each item is equal to the following:

• Turnips: base damage - 0.5 + throw speed * 2.5
• Bob-omb: 25 - 0.4 + throw speed * 3
• Mr. Saturn: 5 - 0.4 + throw speed * 1.5

Turnip

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Set weight	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Effect	Type	G	A	Sound	Direct	Hit bits	Hit part	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable	Flinchless	No GFX	Heedless
0	0	100	Variable	-2.5		Speed-based	25	45	0		2.1	top	0.0	-1.0	0.0	0.8×	1.0×	0%							Shell		No stage	All

Bob-omb

ID	Radius	Bone	Offset			G	A
Searchbox
0	3.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Set weight	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Effect	Type	G	A	Sound	Direct	Hit bits	Hit part	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable	Flinchless	No GFX	Heedless
Explosion
0	0	0	25.0%	2.0		Standard	30	90	0		12.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5×	1.0×	0%							Bomb		No stage	All
1	0	0	25.0%	2.0		Standard	30	90	0		12.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5×	1.0×	0%							Bomb		No stage	All
Explosion when thrown
0	0	0	25.0%	2.0		Speed-based	30	90	0		12.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5×	1.0×	0%							Bomb		No stage	All
1	0	0	25.0%	2.0		Speed-based	30	90	0		12.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5×	1.0×	0%							Bomb		No stage	All

Mr. Saturn

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Set weight	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Effect	Type	G	A	Sound	Direct	Hit bits	Hit part	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable	Flinchless	No GFX	Heedless
0	0	0	5.0%	45.0		Speed-based	10	50	0		4.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Shell		No stage	All
1	0	0	5.0%	45.0		Speed-based	10	50	0		4.0	top	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Shell		No stage	All

Timing

The move can only be used on the ground and if Daisy is not already holding an item.

Turnip generated	1
Interruptible	40
Animation length	61

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)

Lag time

Prop event

Interruptible

Parameters

Move

Active turnip limit	10
Chance of getting an item	1%
Relative odds of getting a Bob-omb	2 (0.4%)
Relative odds of getting a Mr. Saturn	3 (0.6%)

Item

These parameters only apply to turnips.

Lifetime	180 frames
Throw speed multiplier	0.805
Size multiplier	1.3
Base damage modifier for item throw damage	-0.5
Multiplier to item throw speed for additional damage	2.5
Gravity	0.085
Falling speed	2.8
Friction	0.0025 (aerial) 0.03 (grounded)
Horizontal speed multiplier when bouncing off	0.2 (floor) 0.3 (wall) 0.5 (ceiling) 0.11 (target)
Vertical speed multiplier when bouncing off	0.55 (floor) -0.1 (wall) 0.3 (ceiling) 0.11 (target)
Added vertical speed when bouncing off	1.3 (wall) 1.1 (target)
Minimum speed to bounce off terrain	0.2
Collision detection box half-lengths	3 (width) 2.5 (height)
Pickup detection box lengths	6 (width) 5 (height)
Effect when shielded	Vanishes

Turnip differences

Parameter	Turnip type
	Grin	Stare	Closed eyes	Surprised	Happy	Wink	Dot-eyes	Stitch-face
Base damage	5%	5%	5%	5%	5%	10%	16%	24%
Relative odds of appearing	35	6	5	3	3	4	1	1
Effective chance of appearing	60.35%	10.35%	8.62%	5.17%	5.17%	6.9%	1.72%	1.72%

References

Daisy's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Floor getups (trip)
Edge attack · Edge getups
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special · Final Smash