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Round 91: Volt Tackle vs. Super Sonic

Volttackle.jpg
 Winner!!
Super Sonic
File:Super Sonic.png

24.5 to 10
File:Super Sonic.png
A pair of fast-moving Final Smashes with slight control difficulty and significant damage on impact. Which one is more popular?

Votes for Volt Tackle

  1. Pikachu > sonic. And Super Sonic is way to overpowered. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 08:34, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  2. Despite Super Sonic being easier to control, Volt Tackle has cooler effects, IMO. Squishyfrog Chat 08:42, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  3. I just dislike Sonic. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:12, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  4. PIKA-CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 12:20, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  5. Pikachu is liek totes awesome. :P 76.16.238.29 12:31, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  6. Uh oh... ZAP!! Ow! Hey! ZAP!! Ouch! No, wait, wait— ZAP!! Aahh! No, please! ZAP!! ZAP!! ZAP!! CriticalHit60 (talk) 14:49, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  7. I still hate third-party characters. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  8. I just like it more.--2.28.105.139 17:30, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  9. Just because I'm sick of people who want Smash to turn into some sort of Sonic fighter with Nintendo characters thrown in.--Jelloratbob (talk) 19:02, 21 June 2011 (EDT)
  10. I'm sorry, but pikachu will pwn sonic anyday of the week, month, year, decade, and so on. Plus, Super Sonic has almost no control over what he does, Volt Tackle can be controlled for ultra awesome smashing & KOing fun. So, long story short: Pikachu > Sonic :> 67.161.169.125 23:37, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Super Sonic

  1. I NEVER with the capital N, be able control volt tackle Lucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 08:26, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  2. I'LL SHOW YOU!!!--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png YESH! WOLF! 08:32, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  3. The fact that Pikachu will nearly die in the Pokemon games if it used Volt Tackle makes it seem pathetic. In addition, inability to control Volt Tackle among anyone who does not use Pikachu is very common. MegaTron1XD:p 08:59, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  4. Super Sonic is easier to control in my opinion and has higher knockback. 110.174.90.69 09:11, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  5. Super sonic speeds that's what 68.197.115.28 10:04, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  6. Just Because DoctorPain99 (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 10:12, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  7. Sonic > Pikachu. Also, it's easier to control, doesn't give players seizures, begins with an awesome line "Now I'll show you!", hails from Sonic 2 (a great game), is less annoying, reminiscent of the Super Saiyans, has higher damage output, and in general is a better Final Smash. Hawk 21 (talk) 10:58, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  8. Cuz in the games, you always turn into him during the final boss and own. -Ivy73002MS.png 11:10, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  9. Significantly easier to control. Nuff said. Zeldasmash (talk) 11:13, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  10. It pretty much destroys anyone! --66.222.171.225 14:46, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  11. Sonic is the best character in the game AND Super Sonic is awesomesauce on a stick! He destroys Volt Tackle! 68.174.11.29 16:35, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  12. Better control, more KO potential, more effectiveness...if you're not down with that, I've only got two words for ya: you're finished! Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 18:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  13. 3rd vote. ..... Right on. File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 18:38, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  14. It's one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Forbidden7 (talk) 19:04, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  15. The guy's pretty much Shin Akuma in this form for crying out loud. HavocReaper 19:43, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  16. They're actually both pretty good Final Smashes but..."Now I'll show you!". --217.43.54.168 04:57, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
  17. I COULD GO SUPER SONIC! AND JUST BEYOND IT! --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 18:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
  18. I love Pikachu, love his Volt Tackle, but I play more Sonic than I do Pokemon(or maybe that's just me), so I'm rooting for Super Sonic this time. --2.98.162.144 04:02, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
  19. Pikachu is hard to control, but Super Sonic can run free and do damage. MagicGallade (talk) 19:52, 20 June 2011 (EDT)User:MagicGallade
  20. Volt Tackle is too hard to control, I don't have problems with Super Sonic. 98.214.56.196 14:21, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
  21. epic--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png(contributions) 16:30, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
  22. cpu's using Super Sonic can actually KO me. That's all that needs to be said. 25T16 (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
  23. Easier to control, and has more chance of KOing. Mastersword (talk) 05:24, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Half Votes

  1. I slightly dislike it more, but it's all too powerful and can KO someone faster than Volt Tackle. A half vote for it, please. --24.11.24.139 12:07, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
  2. theres NO WAY to escape this!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Imaleaf1080 (talk • contribs) Time of Edit)
  3. I like Sonic more than Pikachu and I KO more with this than Volt Tackle.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.104.101 15:25, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Lol Hawk21, you really pointed out my mistake.--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png YESH! WOLF! 11:13, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

How do you make a half-vote section? --24.11.24.139 12:10, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

Type this: ==Half Votes== (your reason + signature)--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png YESH! WOLF! 12:11, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
It's ===Half Votes=== I did it for you to avoid issues. DoctorPain99 (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 12:14, 18 June 2011 (EDT)
K. --24.11.24.139 12:24, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

I hate both of them. Seeing Volt Tackle do so much damage in one go makes me cringe, while Super Sonic is really powerful and lasts a while. I would have preferred Volt Tackle if it worked anime-style with effects like Marth's Critical Hit, and have Pulseman as an Assist Trophy instead. Seriously, I'd rather just be struck be a Critical Hit and have done with it, rather than seeing Volt Tackle going all cheap on everyone. ToastUltimatum (talk) 14:35, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

And who would those people happen to be, Jelloratbob? --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 11:26, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

Actually it's quite the opposite Jello. Unless you mean people who only like Brawl because Sonic is in it, because that's right >_>.Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 12:34, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

My comment is on top of all of the sonic votes, and I want to vote for pikachu. Can someone figure out what's wrong? 67.161.169.125 23:41, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

Thanks to whoever did that. 67.161.169.125 10:08, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Round 92: Mewtwo vs. Ness

File:Mewtwomelee.jpg
 Winner!!
Mewtwo
File:Mewtwomelee.jpg

25.5 to 14
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It's time for Melee's two psychics to go head-to-head. Whose big brain will win out?

Votes for Mewtwo

  1. Super duper tuff god Pokemon. MegaTron1XD:p 18:24, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  2. Earthbound sucks. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 18:45, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  3. Both games are good,but Mewtwo is more mysterious,which makes him cooler. Forbidden7 (talk) 19:09, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  4. One of the Super Special Super amped up over powered Falcon Punch mega Omega power level Over 9000 Legendary Pokemon ever! ..... :X PikachuHeadSSBB.png 19:20, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  5. Formerly the most powerful being in its universe until Arceus came around. Now a close second. Is Ness second in power only to his universe's god? Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  6. I miss Mewtwo in Super Smash Bros. - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 21:02, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  7. Although I like Earthbound, I like Pokemon better. And Mewtwo's one of my favorites. 76.16.238.29 21:49, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  8. Mewtwo has had two of his own movies. Nostalgia for Generation I Pokémon. Ness is pretty darn awesome in his own right, however. Hawk 21 (talk) 23:55, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  9. While I like EarthBound, I like Pokémon more. I never played Melee, though.--PSIWolf 03:25, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  10. I find Ness' voice slightly annoying (not so much anymore now), his recovery (I'm talking about his up special) is...well, bizzare. Mewtwo, on the other hand however, in my opinion, is the strongest Pokemon ever and he/it also happens to be one of my favourite video game characters. --217.42.43.195 03:33, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  11. I've always hated Ness. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:47, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  12. One of my mains in both Melee and the Pokemon series. AND I HOPE THEY BRING MEWTWO BACK IN SSB4!. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:47, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  13. MEWTWO. IN. SSB4. NOW (or whenever Nintendo gets around to it. hopefully soon). P.S. Ness, your voice is extremely annoying. Also, stop being a bad influence 66.92.144.145 08:09, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  14. Pokemon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Luke5176 (talk) 09:10, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  15. Don't know anything about Earthbound, do know a lot about Pokemon. Squishyfrog Chat 09:20, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  16. --66.222.171.225 11:31, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  17. --I'm not one of those people who cried over Mewtwo's abscence in Brawl, but I will vote for it here. (Even though this voting is meant to be Melee-based) Lucas is far better than Ness in every respect, and Mewtwo's throws are fabulous. ToastUltimatum (talk) 12:20, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  18. Mewtwo-the ultimate legendary pokemon!!!! Mastersword (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  19. I have a Mewtwo with a Relaxed nature has exactly 300 speed. >_>. And I have a different Mewtwo with >400 Special Attack (and the other stats suck :3). Sorry Ness. Lucas is alright though. HavocReaper 22:09, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  20. I kinda like Ness, but I have to go with Mewtwo as he's stronger in every way. --2.98.175.213 03:06, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
  21. Mewtwo is simply more powerful than Ness. ZPRN (talk) 17:58, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
  22. Why is Ness even an option?-Ivy73002MS.png 10:48, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
  23. Obviously. Even though Ness is older, I'm a bigger Pokémon fan, and Mewtwo has some godly powerful skills. Diedie98 (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
  24. Are you kidding me? Is this even a challege? Mewtwo OWNS Ness. A Pokemon created from the ANCESTOR of all pokemon? I mean serisously, one kid, no matter how powerful, can beat THAT. I'm all in for Mewtwo. 25T16 (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
  25. Never really liked Ness, though I have liked Mewtwo as a Pokemon. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:19, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. Mewto Is a legendary Pokemon. Nuff Said—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.23.151 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Ness

  1. Mewtwo is kinda overrated. PK Random! --24.11.24.139 18:48, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like PK Flash DoctorPain99 (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 20:08, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  3. I'm essentially slightly better with Ness than Mewtwo, that's all. Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  4. This kid travels into his own mind and kills his own nightmare. That's about as much as you can expect from anyone. Miles (talk) 23:40, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
  5. No PK and PSI = No cool Lucas-IV- PokeBombLucas kirby.jpg 02:30, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  6. Mewtwo took ages to unlock in Melee yet he wasn't actually that great to play as. Ness on the other hand I've always been decent with.110.174.90.69 02:33, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  7. PK VOTE!86.82.234.185 04:04, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  8. Ness is in Brawl. Mewtwo isn't. What does that tell you? 68.174.11.29 15:20, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
  9. As the person above me said, Ness is in Brawl, Mewtwo isn't. The other 4 characters who didn't make it were left out because they were clones. Mewtwo isn't a clone, so guess why he was left out? Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 15:35, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
  10. PK THANDAH!202.58.180.211 23:04, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
  11. Dont have melee--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png(contributions) 20:24, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
  12. Ness is my all-time favorite SSB character, with EarthBound being my second favorite franchise. On a sidenote, Giegue > Mewtwo. 213.89.114.202 17:01, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Half Votes

  1. 3.aw, myo2 STINKS! ness is much better! ### SUPRISE!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Imaleaf1080 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 25 June 2011
  2. finding mew2 is a total WASTE of time in HGSS!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Knuckle joe 440 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 26 June 2011
  3. I set up a little experiment. I got two friends to do this battle 21 times on meelee. epically, Ness won by one round! that is not enough for a full vote so I think a half vote will do as the results cannot be accurately used to show ness is better. 86.21.11.196
  4. i'm new. but he was in from the bigenning.. too much pokes in brawl! w00t!—Preceding unsigned comment added by I liek berrys (talk • contribs) 21:51, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Toomai, you forgot to make Ness use his Melee pic. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 20:23, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Why would you want Ness to have his Melee picture instead of his Brawl? --24.11.24.139 08:18, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
Because Mewtwo was only in Melee.--PSIWolf 08:21, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

My fight is up. Again, I will not be voting. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:19, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Just why the hell do you not vote because it was your suggestion. That makes no sense. DoctorPain99 (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 20:15, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
When my super-awesome Donkey Kong Vs. Diddy Kong suggestion made it I PROUDLY voted in it myself. HavocReaper 22:12, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
I agree with Dr. Pain 99. Just because this is your fight doesn't mean you are restricted from voting.--24.11.24.139 06:48, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

Round 93: Metal Mario vs. Giant Donkey Kong

MetalMario copy.jpg
 Winner!!
Metal Mario
MetalMario copy.jpg

26.5 to 17
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The two minibosses of SSB64 get together to duke it out. Which superheavyweight will prevail?

Votes for Metal Mario

  1. Looks cooler and i am better off with Mario then DK. Zeldasmash (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. I think I prefer Metal Mario --66.222.171.225 23:34, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. Giant DK always seemed to self-destruct when I was against him. Metal Mario however never did that. 110.174.90.69 00:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. He is much harder, and is objectively superior to Giant DK. Mr. Anon (talk) 00:40, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  5. Mario>DK,so Metal Mario>Giant DKLucas-IV- PKThunder PK Rocket! 03:25, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. I prefer fighting metal characters over giant characters (especially in Brawl). Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:27, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  7. At least metal characters give me a challenge, giant characters just seem ridiculously easy to me. =/ Squishyfrog Chat 08:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  8. Metal characters were a good and original idea (Yes I know it's from Mario 64), while huge characters are overused in I-Don't-Know-How-Many videogames. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 11:16, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  9. please--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png(contributions) 13:39, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  10. My username kinda answers the question. Mariomash (talk) 22:34, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  11. Metal Mario is tougher to bring down than Giant DK, plus he has better music. 68.174.11.29 23:07, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  12. Mario always beats Donkey Kong. The cirumstances of size and body properties do not matter. MtnDewholic (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  13. Tough, hard, shiny, cool, Metal Mario vs. Self-destructive, overgrown gorilla. Wow, this is such a hard decision... Mastersword (talk) 06:52, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
  14. Giant characters always seem to fly off the stage all too easily. --217.42.43.195 14:04, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
  15. Mario is better. 166.249.97.100 15:41, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
  16. In SSB64, Giant Donkey Kong practicaly KOs himself, but Metal Mario is rediculously hard (excuse the pun) to knock off the stage. CriticalHit60 (talk) 10:25, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
  17. Metal mario= hard. Giant DK = so easy i dont have to do anything. 68.63.112.184 16:09, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
  18. How many times has Mario beat DK? A lot. And how many times has DK beat Mario? Not once. Being metal/big shouldn't change that. 25T16 (talk) 18:52, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
  19. Metal Mario>DK. Period. --69.247.131.32 22:41, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
  20. Giant DK is too easy.Metal Mario would punch Giant DK off the stage in seconds! 99.111.204.97 11:15, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
  21. Just because of his epic theme music in Super Mario 64. --174.59.4.202 18:13, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
  22. Metal Mario is the man! Dark Mai Valentine (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
  23. HEAVY METAL POWARRR \m/ – SmiddleT 16:35, 6 July 2011 (EDT)
  24. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhaFtROR28E Anthony1996 (talk) 16:12, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
  25. Metal Mario is shiny, He automatically gets me vote. --Jedizora (talk) 22:26, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Half Votes

  1. Metal Mario is brilliant, Giant DK NO.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.221.139.138 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. A huge mokey, vs Super mario metal :O, its obiest, go metal mario —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.109.159 (talk • contribs) 6:30, 6 July 2011
  3. Anyone up for some Donkey Kong? 20:36, 7 July 2011 (EDT)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.186.5.252 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 7 July 2011

Votes for Giant Donkey Kong

  1. Giant Donkey Kong is actually a challenge unlike Metal Mario. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
  2. Giant DK/King Kong like character FTW --Thenonexistent (talk) 23:36, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
  3. Just better than MM. Forbidden7 (talk) 23:41, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
  4. OH-KHAIE--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 00:13, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  5. SOOOOOUUUUPPP-PPAAAHHHHHH DAAAAAWNKKEY KAAAWNG! ...is bigger, faster, and stronger too! Look at that, a commercial and song reference in one comment! HavocReaper 00:26, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  6. King Kong or a metal plumber. Hmm... ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 02:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  7. It was hard to decide, because I hate metal characters, but I like Mario more than DK.--PSIWolf 03:59, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  8. Giant DK is brilliant, Metal Mario NO. --24.11.24.139 06:26, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  9. His size makes him easier to hit with moves like Rest or difficult meteor smashes, whereas Metal Mario would be just as hard to hit, and take less knockback. Simply hitting him is more satisfying, because he's easy to follow up on, so he gets my vote. ToastUltimatum (talk) 08:36, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  10. DK!!!!!!!!!!!--Luke5176 (talk) 10:51, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  11. Donkey Kong>Mario, so Giant Donkey Kong>Metal Mario all the way. Even with the resilience the metal gives Mario, a couple clean haymakers from Giant DK and the tubby plumber is nothing more than scrap metal. That, and King Kong was an awesome movie. Hawk 21 (talk) 12:03, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  12. If he shoots ya... it's gonna hurt! Smash-jay (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  13. He's the first member of the DK crew!!! DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 13:30, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  14. Goes down easier, and the song is boss. -Ivy73002MS.png 14:37, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  15. ..... Win PikachuHeadSSBB.png 20:10, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
  16. yayFloor2000x (talk) 19:15, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Half Votes

  1. Metal Mario is just regular Mario with a slight power-up, where as DK can dominate the field.-MagicGallade —Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicGallade (talk • contribs) 21:14, 5 July 2011
  2. Even thoug Metal Mario'll probably take this one, I still gottta support my Favorite minboss EVAR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.23.151 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 6 July 2011

Comments

@Captain Falcon - Actually, I think there's more games with characters that are made of shiny materials than games with giant characters(for example Sonic the Hedgehog and 1080° Snowboarding). --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 14:59, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

This battle is pretty hot Lucas-IV- Think Before You Talk 09:06, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

I've never seen a tie so late in the battle. (it barely changes after Monday) CriticalHit60 (talk) 10:25, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

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