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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Round 61: Shadow vs. Grey Fox

Winner!!
undecided

0 to 0
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Two dark-coated not-so-heroes, both the Assist Trophy representing their non-Nintendo series, and both having a bit of a rocky relationship with those series' figureheads. Which is the better of the two?
REMINDER: If you haven't already done so, read the updated rules above.

Votes for Shadow

  1. All of you better do things correctly this time around. I'm a fan of the Sonic series. Done.--MegaTron1XD:p 18:46, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  2. shadow would either beat him up or shoot him(shadow the hedgehog)Scoobford (talk) 20:05, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  3. Shadow can stop time meaning Grey Fox would be helpless. 110.174.90.69 20:42, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  4. CHAOOOOOOS CONTROL!-Ivy73002MS.png 20:53, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  5. Shadow is the most epic character, and I can only imagine how awesome he would be if he is in the next Super smash Bros. (even if they havent announced one yet.)Vincent TranKirby-1.png 00:28, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  6. Shadow. Definitely. No contest. Fuddlebob (talk) 01:09, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  7. I've always had a spot in my heart for this guy. Mr. Anon (talk) 01:40, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  8. dont care much for the sonic clone but i care even less for the metal gear series and all its charactersGig (talk) 03:51, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  9. He is just cooler--Jespoke (talk) 08:30, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  10. I would prefer Shadow for SSB4 over Grey Fox. --HavocReaper'48 10:15, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  11. SHADOW IS AWESOME! Plus cheese.Brawliac (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  12. Shadow can move as fast as Sonic and control time. Bye, Gray Fox. :) 24.164.143.141 12:59, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  13. You're asking me to choose between two awesome characters from non-Nintendo games. Hmmm... I've always liked the Sonic series, and Shadow's one of my favorites. My vote goes to the hedgehog. Reflex (talk) 18:32, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  14. I didn't even know what series Grey Fox was from until I looked it up a few minutes ago. Shadow, who I know alot more about, wins my vote. 81.155.90.214 02:46, 22 November 2010 (EST)
  15. I'll take Shadow any day. He can alter the passage of time and is purely badass. Valsion 21:56, 22 November 2010 (EST)
  16. In my opinion, Shadow is better. Can't think of anything else to say. -- Dee is too lazy to make a fancy User Signature. 15:28, 23 November 2010 (EST)
  17. How can anyone not like shadow? He's great!Sora Roxas (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2010 (EST)
  18. Shadow is just cool! Who the heck is Grey Fox? He isn't even a fox.207.190.75.131 20:39, 23 November 2010 (EST)
  19. Half-votes? Nice. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 21:50, 24 November 2010 (EST)
  20. First of all, Shadow's Chaos Control can do more than control time. Second of all, WHO IS GREY FOX?!?!Brawlingbrian (talk) 14:18, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Half-Votes

  1. Shadow because well he's AWESOME —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talkcontribs) 12:51, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  2. Shadow is way better than that wierd cyclops with a sword —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.95.193 (talkcontribs) 10:33, 21 November 2010 (EST)
  3. Grey Fox is slow.Shadow maybe win in running race —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sky hero dragon (talkcontribs) 09:24, 23 November 2010 (EST)
  4. Shadow—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.143.132 (talkcontribs) 14:18, November 24, 2010

Votes for Grey Fox

  1. Although I like Shadow, I hate his assist. It does nothing! Grey Fox is much better. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:49, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  2. I don't like Shadow in a way Snake dosen't like Sonic. He's too "cool", know what I mean? Also, Grey Fox has big sword.T.testLP (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  3. I just like the blade. I'm very sorry, I'm not a fan of either their series, and I like swords. Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 08:46, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  4. Shadow is just a Timer that is summoned by an Assist Trophy. Gray Fox does actual damage. 96.231.135.103 09:13, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  5. Grey Fox actually helps you kill your opponents while all Shadow does is slows them down so you could get more invincibility frames by air dodging and countering. Doc King (talk) 09:53, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  6. Grey fox on MGS is so Mysterious and he is a ninjaPikachu8090 (talk) 11:28, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  7. Grey fox is better and also his sword is so powerful that can even cut the esmeralds Ryder 20:14, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  8. Aah, I know Shadow is more popular than Grey Fox, but let's face it, Shadow will NEVER defeat him in a real battle. --RevolverOcelotFTW (talk) 04:50, 21 November 2010 (EST)
  9. Well, I don't really know both of the series that well, but I am gonna go with Dr.PikaLinkSmash's idea and pick this guy based on his sword. I like swords too. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 21:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)
  10. I agree with the guys above, Grey Fox would kick Shadow's .. well yeah. Besides Shadow does virtually nothing but act as if you used a Timer, what's the point? --Landfish7 21:40, 21 November 2010 (EST)
  11. I do find Shadow to be a more useful assist trophy than Gray Fox. However, like many other older Sonic fans, I do not like Shadow, and I like Gray Fox as a character much more. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 22:43, 21 November 2010 (EST)
  12. As shown by RevolverOcelotFTW, he rules over shadow, face it, shadow fly*cough* runs really fast, and he attack with what, his fist V.S. a blade?75.105.139.167 00:26, 26 November 2010 (EST)

Half-Votes

  1. grey fox cools me make me liking him 100% —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirby lover (talkcontribs) 22:26, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  2. Grey Fox will destroy Shadow before he even move! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.246.184.194 (talkcontribs) 05:30, 20 November 2010 (EST)
  3. Shadow or grey fox? shadow stands there and says chaos control, while grey fox does damage. 13:15, 24 November 2010 (EST)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mesuxelf (talkcontribs) 10:15, November 24, 2010
  4. Shadow just says "chaos control", nothing more. And he is just an emo kid :( -—Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.98.131.225 (talkcontribs) 18:11, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Comments

This is an odd one. I don't really know anything about these two but I'll vote anyway.T.testLP (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2010 (EST)

It's really sad how people vote for someone or something just because of there popularity. It makes the battles less interesting. Doc King (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2010 (EST)
To each his own.-Ivy73002MS.png 11:15, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Well, I think that people just vote for the person that they think will win based on other people's votes. You know, going along with the crowd. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 21:30, 21 November 2010 (EST)
At the same time, they vote the one they recognize, not many people know about Grey Fox unfortunately. Also only one person said why Shadow would be better in combat whereas everyone else said they liked Shadow better :P.--Landfish7 21:40, 21 November 2010 (EST)
The Smash Arena is more of a popularity contest, and is not actually related to who would win in an actual fight between the two characters. So only one person saying how Shadow would beat Gray Fox in battle doesn't really matter, and people are free to vote for whichever character for whichever reasons. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 22:43, 21 November 2010 (EST)

LOL.. *ehem* BOOGIE BOOGIE EMO HEDGEHOG!![1]--Landfish7 21:51, 21 November 2010 (EST)

Why is the shading of the voting area that color? It's hard to read the votes. Mr. Anon (talk) 17:37, 23 November 2010 (EST)

Would it be easier if the text were white, as if the background colour were black? (The background colour here, #3f3f3f, is exactly on the border of what I would consider the white text cutoff.) Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:57, 23 November 2010 (EST)
OK, let's give it a try. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:48, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Yeah, it looks much better now. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2010 (EST)

Does Mesuxelf's vote count as an unsigned one? He obviously tried to sign, but used the wrong number of ~'s. Mr. Anon (talk) 15:34, 24 November 2010 (EST)

It should. Over 2 hrs to correct it. Sigs have to have a clear link to userpage/talk page.--MegaTron1XD:p 17:03, 24 November 2010 (EST)
It's impossible to judge whether it was accidental, and I do not want to set a precedent for giving exceptions. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:14, 24 November 2010 (EST)

Round 60: Waddle Dee Army vs. Palutena's Army

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Winner!!
Waddle Dee Army
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23 to 12
Two Final Smashes involving mass numbers of minions are the subject of this round! One army fights for justice, while the other fights for...uh, whatever the fat penguin wants to at the time. But that doesn't make them any less formidable! It's the two armies (and possibly their leaders) against each other in the first clash of the '60s.

Votes for Waddle Dee Army

  1. Hehe, Paletuna. He. DDD deserves the win.--MegaTron1XD:p 20:03, 12 November 2010 (EST)
  2. Gordos beat Paletuna's (hehe) Army anyday. Plus Waddle Dees are the cutest enemies EVER!! --Landfish7 20:24, 12 November 2010 (EST)
  3. You can have MY BIG GAY DANCE!-Ivy73002MS.png 20:58, 12 November 2010 (EST)
  4. DEDEDEDEDEDEDEDE!!!! His Final Smash can actually KO stuff, not just do damage. 66.92.144.145 08:52, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  5. Waddle dees are cuter and don't die after one hit. WalruWiz 9:12, 13 November (GMT)
  6. While I find the other final smash to be more effective, I find Waddle Dee Army and Dedede's little dance to be more entertaining. Thus, I like this final smash more. Garo108 12:27, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  7. I'm gonna vote for Waddle Dee Army because it's not so predictable and Dedede is invincible while doing this and it doesn't have so much beginning lag as the Paulatina army or whatever (Sorry I don't use idems, I play Brawl competitively). Doc King (talk) 13:15, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  8. Dedede is one of my favorite characters! (no, I'm not Japulley). Mr. Anon (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  9. Gordos and waddle doo's can puncture there wings and zap them to the ground!Mesuxelf Blazeicon.png (talk) 10:41, 14 November 2010 (EST)
  10. They are just so much better. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:25, 14 November 2010 (EST)
  11. Ah, the "Big Gay Dance". I've had so much fun annoying my friends with this Final Smash. Who cares if Palutena's Army does more damage? Since non-competitive Brawl is meant to be fun, the greatest measure of a Final Smash is just how fun it is, and King Dedede scores a perfect 10. Reflex (talk) 13:28, 14 November 2010 (EST)
  12. Palutena's centurions are exceedingly easy to dodge and to kill. Dedede's minions are at least fairly effective at racking up some damage.74.137.130.65 16:20, 14 November 2010 (EST)
  13. Why, what Ivy and Reflex said explains it all.Vincent TranKirby-1.png 00:25, 15 November 2010 (EST)
  14. I do this because I hate Pit. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 01:49, 15 November 2010 (EST)
  15. Waddle Dee wants to win! Besides, Pit's Final Smash, you can dodge the contracts really easilly. AND YES, I CALL THEM CONTRACTS!!!
  16. King DDD's smash is very hard to avoid and is cool.Yoshi (talk) 20:33, 16 November 2010 (EST)Yoshi
  17. Gordos RAWK! ~Empoleon6217
  18. GORDOS RAWK!!!!!!!! ~ color:red Mechacolor:blackShadow
  19. Dedede's a penguin? 24.96.57.124 16:57, 18 November 2010 (EST)
  20. It's good enough to be an Internet Meme, also it can actually kill with Gordos. Palutena'a army is just useful for gimping.T.testLP (talk) 02:00, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  21. The Dee's and Doo's are so cute, and yet they are far more dangerous than the winged creeps--Jespoke (talk) 16:59, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  22. BIIIIIIIIIIIG GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY DAAAAAAAAAAAANCE!!! Also, Palutena's Army never actually was useful for me. 74.70.51.174 17:39, 19 November 2010 (EST)
  23. I like the Waddle Army a lot. They're both cute and funny.

Votes for Palutena's Army

  1. Palutena's Army has done plently more for me than dedede's army. while dedede is a better character than pit in my book, pit has the better final smash.
  2. While Dedede's final smash is awesome, I find Palutena's Army to be much more effective in KOing. 110.174.90.69 20:34, 12 November 2010 (EST)
  3. Palutena is a goddess and King DDD is a penguin. The better the commander, the better the army. It's no contest
  4. King Dedede is a fat loser. His army? Even failier. 24.164.143.141 21:20, 12 November 2010 (EST)
  5. It's honestly a cooler, better final smash. Go Palutena's Army! GormanLuigi (talk) 09:42, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  6. I think Palutena is a better final smash, sure King Dedede, is a good character, but It's actually pretty easy to dodge King Dedede's final smash, so I vote for Pit's final smash. My name is SpicyFlareon (talk) 12:14, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  7. Seriously, Pit can still move and attack during Palutena's Army, and any ways, Waddle dees SUCK in Kirby games! Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 18:33, 13 November 2010 (EST)
  8. Great Palutena victory shall be ours, lawl
  9. Palutenas army can kill those fat little waddle dees
  10. pit kicks but!!!
  11. Damn! Missed one fight; almost missed two. Anyway, These seem to have way more voters now that we're all moved. So, Hooray!!! Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 20:39, 16 November 2010 (EST)
  12. Victory is ours. --HavocReaper'48 20:55, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Comments

It seems that the Waddle Dee army votes are mostly made up of users that have been here for a while, while the other side is entirely made up of new users. This is just an observation. I'm not trying to suggest that one side is better or anything. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:57, 15 November 2010 (EST)

Well, I'm guessing that new people would be more attracted to Pit due to most of his spammable attacks, just saying. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 11:39, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Lol pretty good comment! It is true that a lot of amatuer players are very attracted into Pits spammable attacks and stuff. Doc King (talk) 21:28, 16 November 2010 (EST)

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