Talk:Meta Knight (SSBB)/Archive 1

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Too many pros repeated, or just worded differently. So i put them together. (good character but was lengthy with no need to be). Each character has same chance of pratfalling. Phayz (talk) 15:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Pros and Cons gone?

Where did all of the Pros and Cons go? Someone apparantly deleted them... -ACDCGAMER (talk) 01:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

new project, go read the new project for info. - 68.158.116.134 01:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

All Around Hyrule Jump

Jigglypuff can go around Hyrule? Not only do I want video proof of that, but I don't think that qualifies as the All Around Hyrule Jump.

new layout

The pros and cons where very helpful now it just looks like Dojo with and removes the point of this being a wiki. the melee and SSB pages have pros and cons still

Don't understand on how he's first place on tier.

Seriously... I still don't see how that happened.

your kidding right? how could you not?! everyone uses him so its a given that he would be first JtM =^] (talk) 17:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Let's list his cons (which got removed >_> ) and deconstruct them:
  • Light and easily KO'd (fourth lightest, along with Pikachu).

-Does this matter when Meta Knight prevents you from hitting him?

  • Mach Tornado does not auto-grab the ledge, rather it bounces off.

-Meta Knight already has 6 jumps and a Glide. It won't be difficult to mash through edgeguarders with the Mach Tornado.

  • Most of his attacks lack KO power.

-He comboes well enough to kill anyway. This video should explain quite well.

  • Reliant on edge-guarding for early kills.

-See above.

  • Crouching gives him almost no vertical height reduction.

-How often do you crouch to dodge attacks. Let alone considering Meta Knight's small size?

  • Very poor air speed but Glide can help this.

-If it was poor, Meta Knight would be lower, though probably by a bit.

  • Lacks projectiles.

-Tornado at the very least to make up for that.

  • All specials put Meta Knight into helpless state in mid-air (except Shuttle Loop)

-Could be useful to exploit, except Meta Knight already can abuse A moves, and has control of a couple of the B moves. Oh, and Shuttle Loop still puts Meta Knight into helpless state, as if that helps.

There we go. Not very viable weaknesses for all the strengths Meta Knight has. MasterKnight (talk) 03:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Um... I seriously do not see how meta knight got first place. It is true that his attacks are really fast and that he does have a good recovery, but he really lacks a killing move. I have a hard time knocking a character out with his smashes unless I am near an edge or follow them to the end of the screen. Meta Knight is 11th on my list of Brawl characters. This means I can easily beat Meta Knight with Bowser, Snake, Wario, Samus, Diddy Kong, Fox, Captain Falcon, Mario, Donkey Kong, and especially Sonic. I'm sorry, but Meta Knight does not stand a chance against Sonic. His atacks may be pretty quick, but Sonic is actually pretty good at dodging and recovering from repeated attacks not to mention that he does at least have some good smashes. Sonic should be first place and I will tell you why...

He is fast His attacks are a bit faster than normal His smashes are pretty good at knockback and are repeatable His dash attack is very useful His recoveries are very good His throws are pretty good for his size His final smash is the best in the game (if you can control him)

First off, there are no smash balls in tourneys. Secondly, Meta Knight certainly doesnt lack a kill move (Dsmash anyone?). When you search a Sonic vs. MK vid on youtube, how many times do you see a video of Sonic winning? Rarely ever. Sonic=good smashes? hah! his Usmash sucks, his Fsmash has high starting and ending lag, and Dsmash isnt powerful. MK's smashes meet all the criteria of good smashes, quick powerful, low lag. I'm sorry, but MK has a much higher advantage over Sonic JtM =^] (talk) 02:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Um, just to tell you, not everybody posts their game on youtube. I wish I could, but I lack a camera and the internet. I myself personally never saw a fight between these two on youtube, but when I play, it is no constest. The only move that I tend to get nailed by is Meta Knight's tornado and regular attack (very quick and can rack up damage). I can easily avoid these moves by spindash, spincharge, homing attack, and foward dash attack (really useful as I like to knock him back and forth before he gets a chance to fight back). If I do get caught in his first normal fast attack (I'm sorry, I don't know smash talk yet) all that I have to do is use spring jump to get out of it and then spike him with Sonic's down a attack whick very useful at attacking him then in the air. And just to tell you, I always fight a level 9 Meta Knight, so do not accuse me of fighting an easy character. Also, I believe you give little credit to Sonic's smashes. I'll discuss it later. LOAP

When I first saw the E3 2006 trialer, I had a feeling that Meta Knight was going to be a really great character. Meta Knight is in my top five and I wasn't the least bit surprised when I learned he was the highest tier. As for Sonic, he is a great character if one is playing with items, but without items he is almost useless. Sonic would easily get to every item before his opponent and also use (as you have said) the best final smash in the game if items are turned on. But without items (how it is in official tournaments, right?), Sonic lacks a good finisher which is probably one of the main reasons he is low-tier. Enigmatic Mr. L (talk)

PRO"S AND CONS!

what's wrong with them!? they are great, like graphs- easy to read info! i don't care if they are immature!

Taunta

Can someone please post up Sir Meta Knight's taunts please! --Zookah (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Up taunt - Disappears into his cape, and it shrinks horizontally while spinning. Has invincible properties when he has shrunk into the cape.
Side taunt - Says "Fight me!" and slashes his sword twice before pointing it in the direction he is facing.
Down taunt - Opens his wings and and says "Come!" 92.233.156.165 17:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)ZoDanma


wtf when did fox,diddy and g&w when did get a even match with MK

MK has 60:40 vs Diddy

MK has 60:30 vs fox

MK has 60:40 vs G&WDarkspatan117 (talk) 01:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Source? Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 18:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Why

Why is he banned in Italy? 72.35.124.40 14:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much because he is too powerful, and is considered unfair there. BEN!

Meta Knight

I like Meta Knight!--71.80.8.126 23:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Banning in Italy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you sure Meta Knight is banned in Italy? I heard that it was merely a mistranslation of a poll asking whether Meta Knight should be banned. 92.237.21.186 17:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Unused sound

Has anyone else heard of the sound of him saying, "Now my power is without rival," in the game's data? This is not in the sound test part, but was found. I want to confirm before I post it.

Source please. METEORITE (t)
http://Fortenium0.googlepages.com/MetaKnight-US-Nowmypower.wav Think this is fine to use here? Fortenium (talk) 01:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
How do we know this was said in the game? JtM =^] (talk) 04:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
This was in a zip dump of all sounds in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and all of Meta Knight's sounds were there, but this one was never used. Not only is it there, but you can't fake this unless you're the man who voiced Meta Knight. Plus this is the one game where Meta Knight has a voice actor, so this is not from a different game.