Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Ness
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Aesthetics
- Ness' appearance is largely the same as it was in SSB4, although his model features a more subdued color scheme due to the aesthetic used in Ultimate, now more closely resembles his sprite in EarthBound. The detailing on his clothes and weapons are more prominent, such as the stitching on his socks. His skin tone is also slightly tanned.
- Ness faces the foreground at an angle, instead of facing directly forward. In addition, he always faces the screen regardless of which direction he turns, causing all of his animations to be mirrored while altering some, such as his dash animation.
- Ness' idle animation has been altered: he keeps his arms to his side rather than swinging them around.
- Ness, like many other characters, has been made much more expressive. He is much angrier when attacking, such as using his tilts. His eyes bulge and grow more circular when he is hit or frozen. His eyebrows are much more prominent when attacking or stunned.
- Ness' PSI graphic effects have been changed: both rings are thinner and are colored magenta instead of just the smaller circle, closely resembling the appearance of Hypnosis in Mother 3.
- Air dodge animation has changed.
- Ness' victory poses have been slightly altered:
- When Ness poses with his bat, he swings his bat only once instead of multiple times.
- Ness skips into the victory area instead of hopping in place.
- He has a more astonished expression during his look-about victory pose.
- Ness has a new victory theme; it is an arrangement of the last two out of the Eight Melodies from EarthBound Beginnings.
Attributes
- Like all characters, Ness' jumpsquat animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).
- Ness runs faster (1.46265 → 1.609).
- Ness' initial dash is much faster (1.3 → 1.826).
- Ness walks slightly faster (0.8635 → 0.907).
- Ness' air speed is higher (0.9588 → 1.007).
- Ness' traction has been significantly increased (0.0546 → 0.131), going from average to being tied for the fifth highest traction in the game.
- Ness jumps higher.
- Forward roll has less ending lag (FAF 31 → 30).
- Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 4-15).
- Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 5-16), and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 35).
- Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 28 → 26).
- Spot dodge grants less intangibility (frames 3-18 → 3-17).
- Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
- Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 60), being one of the slowest.
- The reintroduction of directional air dodges benefits Ness more than the rest of the cast, as his directional air dodge grants more distance compared to other characters' (a trait he shares with Lucas), and it provides him with a reliable recovery mixup to avoid leaving himself vulnerable by using PK Thunder.
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack:
- The first hit drags opponents towards Ness with the farthest hitboxes (361° → 180°), and the second hit uses a different angle throughout (70° → 361°). Both hits also have altered knockback (8 base/50 scaling → 30/20 base/25/15 scaling (hit 1), 30/20/25/20 (hit 2)). This allows for the full neutral attack to connect more reliably.
- Consecutive uses of the first hit are faster (9 frames → 7).
- The first hit transitions faster into the second hit (frame 7 → 5), which transitions faster into the third hit (frame 7 → 6).
- All hits have a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.7× (hit 1), 1.2× (hit 2), 2× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to SDI each hit and DI the last hit.
- The second hit deals less damage (2% → 1.5%).
- The third hit has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 6-9 → 6-7).
- Forward tilt:
- Forward tilt has drastically increased base knockback (12 → 35), turning it into a viable KO option starting at around 155% from the center of Final Destination.
- It deals more damage when not angled (9% → 10%), no longer dealing less damage than the angled versions, and thus making its KO ability consistent.
- The hitboxes have been moved slightly inwards (X offset: 0.7u/2.9u → 0.6u/2.7u), marginally reducing its range.
- Up tilt:
- Up tilt has less startup, with the sweetspot having a longer duration (frames 7-8 → 5-6 (sourspot)/5-8 (sweetspot)), and less ending lag (FAF 32 → 29). This improves its combo potential and allows it to function more effectively as an anti-air.
- It has more knockback scaling (126 → 140), improving the sweetspot's KO potential, without worsening the move's combo ability due to its reduced lag and Ness' faster jumpsquat.
- Down tilt:
- Down tilt deals more damage (4%/2% → 4.5%/3%).
- It can be interrupted earlier by actions besides another down tilt (FAF 14 → 12).
- Its base knockback and knockback scaling have been reversed (3/6 base/20 scaling → 20/3). This increases its safety on hit at low percents so that opponents in range can no longer shield in-between hits, improving its reliability for racking up damage.
- The increased shieldstun for tilts allows down tilt to repeatedly hit and keep opponents locked into their shields until they get out of the move's range or are shield stabbed, improving its offensive utility.
- It no longer has a bonus trip chance, removing its guaranteed setups.
- Dash attack:
- Dash attack's second hit extends backwards (Z offset: 16u → 13u-16u), improving its ability to hit opponents next to Ness.
- The last hit has drastically increased knockback scaling (104 → 133), significantly improving its KO potential despite its lowered angle (80° → 70°).
- Yoyo (up smash and down smash):
- Up smash and down smash once again have their charging hitboxes from Melee and Brawl, hitting opponents repeatedly for 1% damage per hit. Unlike in those games, however, charging these moves still increases their damage, making the charging hitboxes far more useful. The yo-yo can also hang below the ledge, improving Ness' edgeguarding abilities significantly.
- They have a lower maximum damage multiplier (1.4× → 1.2×) and cannot be held as long as most other smash attacks.
- The text on the yo-yo reads "SUPER NINTENDO 2018 MOTHER".
- Up smash:
- Up smash has less ending lag (FAF 56 → 53).
- It no longer possesses an early hit that deals 9%, allowing it to KO more consistently.
- It has considerably more knockback scaling (60 → 79), significantly improving its KO potential.
- It has more startup (frame 6 → 10), no longer hitting behind Ness during its first active frames.
- Down smash:
- Down smash deals one hit less at both sides, increasing its startup (frame 10 → 12) and reducing its total damage (12% → 11%).
Aerial attacks
- All aerials have much less landing lag (18 frames → 8 (neutral), 20 → 12 (forward), 17 → 10 (back), 14 → 8 (up), 28 → 12 (down)).
- Neutral aerial:
- Ness emits PSI from his hands when using the move. It also uses a magic effect and SFX, rather than a neutral effect with punch SFX.
- Forward aerial:
- Forward aerial deals more damage (1% → 1.5% (hits 1-3), 4% → 5.5% (hit 4); 7% → 10% (total)), with knockback scaling not fully compensated on the last hit (150 → 128), improving its KO potential.
- Back aerial:
- Back aerial's outer hitbox has been moved outward and down (X offset: 2.7u → 3.7u, Y offset: 0u → 2u), improving its horizontal range and better matching the inner hitbox in height.
- Up aerial:
- Ness has a new up aerial: he waves his hand in an overhead arc while emitting PSI from his index finger. It is a multi-hit move, dealing up to five hits.
- Up aerial has a longer hitbox duration (frames 8-11 → 8-14 (hits 1-4), 15-16 (hit 5)), and more disjointed vertical range above Ness.
- It has less ending lag (FAF 42 → 34). Coupled with its longer duration and multi-hit nature (guaranteeing opponents are launched during the latest active frames), this allows it to combo into itself in the air from low to mid percents.
- The first four hits use the autolink angle (366°). This allows Ness to drag opponents down to the ground with the move and combo into several others, which is further complemented by its lower landing lag.
- It deals more total damage (13% → 2.5% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5); 15% total), with knockback compensated on the last hit if the damage from the previous hits is added (13 base/109 scaling → 40/180). Combined with its increased combo potential, this overall drastically strengthens its damage racking ability.
- Up aerial has drastically decreased horizontal range, hindering its use for landing and approaching directly.
- It auto-cancels later (frame 27 → 34), matching its interruptibility.
- The last hit launches at a more horizontal angle (85° → 73°). While this allows it to combo better into other moves at low percents, such as neutral and forward aerial, it greatly hinders its KO potential, as it is vulnerable to LSI.
- Down aerial:
- Down aerial is interruptible, reducing its ending lag (FAF 60 → 55).
- It deals more damage (12% → 14% (clean), 10% → 12% (late)) and knockback (20 base/70 scaling → 37/74 (clean), 70 scaling → 74 (late)), making it a significantly stronger meteor smash.
- It has a longer duration (frames 20-21 (clean)/22-25 (late) → 20-22/23-26).
- It auto-cancels earlier (frame 50 → 41), allowing Ness to auto-cancel it in a short hop like in earlier Smash titles.
- The clean hit has a much larger hitbox (3.9u → 6u), making it easier to land.
- The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes, coupled with down aerial's immensely decreased landing lag and better auto-cancel window, significantly improve its combo potential onstage.
- Down aerial uses a kick SFX instead of a magic SFX on hit.
- Its animation was reversed to make Ness face the screen. The landing animation was also tweaked.
Throws and other attacks
- Ness grabs and pummels his opponents using PSI, with accompanying sound effects.
- Grabs:
- Standing grab has increased ending lag (FAF 35 → 38).
- Dash grab has more startup (frame 8 → 9) and ending lag (FAF 43 → 46), and slightly less horizontal range (Z2 offset: 10u → 9.8u).
- Pummel:
- Pummel deals slightly more damage (1.2% → 1.3%).
- It has less startup (frame 3 → 1) and ending lag (FAF 10 → 7), but deals much more hitlag (4 frames → 14), drastically increasing its effective duration. This hinders its damage racking ability, no longer being one of the fastest pummels in the game.
- It uses a magic effect, rather than a neutral effect.
- Back throw:
- Back throw releases the opponent closer to Ness, slightly reducing its KO potential.
- Down throw:
- Down throw's first three hits have a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.5×), allowing it to execute faster.
- It launches the opponent earlier (frame 30 → 28), and has a slightly longer duration (FAF 50 → 51), reducing its combo potential.
- While the move's total damage is unchanged, it deals four hits before the throw instead of five, which have redistributed timings (frames 10/14/18/22/26 → 6/10/14/27) and damage values (0.6% (hits 1-5) → 0.5% (hits 1-3), 1.5% (hit 4)).
- Edge attack:
- Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).
Special moves
- PK Flash:
- PK Flash travels faster, and reaches its full charge much quicker (frame 150 → 121).
- It has five frames less ending lag (uncharged: FAF 70 → 65).
- It can travel through soft and semisoft platforms. It also no longer dissipates immediately upon making contact with hard platforms, allowing its full charge to be unleashed on the ground by simply holding the button, much like in Melee.
- The explosion has a longer hitbox duration (1 → 4 frames) and is larger (size multiplier: 0.9× uncharged/1.43× fully charged → 1.05×/1.8×).
- It no longer causes helplessness when used in the air, allowing Ness to hit opponents near edges from offstage without self-destructing.
- It has much more base knockback (10 → 50), with knockback scaling barely compensated (70 → 65), strengthening it at lower charge levels. Combined with its lower ending lag, and the increased hitlag in Ultimate, which effectively lengthens the move's frame advantage on hit due to its projectile properties, it can also start combos at low to mid percents if the opponent is hit close enough to Ness.
- It deals significantly less damage when fully charged (37% → 27%), hindering its KO potential despite its increased knockback values.
- PK Flash has a more aquamarine color and emits its respective EarthBound graphic (specifically the "α" form) upon detonating.
- PK Fire:
- PK Fire has less startup (frame 21 → 18), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 59 → 56).
- It has significantly less landing lag (30 frames → 12), improving the aerial version's zoning ability.
- The spark is bigger and deals more damage on its initial hit (4% → 6%).
- Due to the universal nerfs to roll intangibility frames, PK Fire can catch rolls more effectively.
- The flame pillar has a faster rehit rate (11 → 7), but no longer has a hitbox that deals more damage (2%/1% → 1%). As a result, it cannot deal as much damage, but it is more consistent overall.
- PK Fire pushes Ness back slightly, similar to Lucas's PK Fire.
- Ness uses one hand to fire the projectile while emitting a red spark from his index finger. Diamond-shaped PSI energy also rises up within the fire pillar, resembling PK Fire γ's graphics from EarthBound.
- PK Thunder:
- PK Thunder deals more damage (8% → 11%) and has increased knockback scaling (50 → 55), allowing it to KO near the top blast line at high percents.
- The new air dodge mechanics significantly improve its edgeguarding ability, allowing Ness to pressure opponents more reliably and force them to spend their air dodge, leaving them open to punishes.
- PK Thunder emits yellow hexagon-shaped PSI energy, which more closely resembles its appearance in EarthBound.
- It has an angle indicator when the ball of lighting moves close to Ness. While this allows for the player to more accurately determine the trajectory Ness will travel during PK Thunder 2, it also makes it more predictable to opponents.
- PK Thunder 2:
- PK Thunder 2 travels further.
- In addition to its full intangibility during frames 1-9, it grants intangibility on Ness' head during frames 10-32, improving its safety for recovery.
- The window for using PK Thunder again after bouncing off a wall is much bigger. In addition, Ness enters the rebound animation when bouncing against the ground, instead of being knocked down, allowing him to use PK Thunder a second time.
- When hit by PK Thunder 2, the opponent is always launched in the horizontal direction Ness is facing. This makes KOing at very low percents much less likely if the opponent gets hit behind Ness.
- The clean hit triggers Special Zoom upon hitting an opponent.
- PSI Magnet:
- PSI Magnet begins absorbing projectiles faster (frame 10 → 7), and has less ending lag (FAF 30 → 25).
- It no longer halts Ness' horizontal momentum in the air, functioning as it did in Brawl, improving Ness' movement options.
- It has gained a hitbox close to Ness from frame 7 onward, which deals 4% damage with weak set knockback, and can rehit opponents every 10 frames. This grants the move offensive utility, and alongside the changes above, allows it to be used in combos. The lingering hitbox can also destroy weak projectiles, improving its safety when used for absorption.
- PSI Magnet emits pink diamond-shaped PSI from the center, more closely resembles its appearance in EarthBound. It also features a visible suction effect around the magnet.
- PK Starstorm:
- PK Starstorm summons slower meteors that spread out over the stage, similar to its Brawl iteration, but can still be aimed horizontally like the Smash 4 iteration. Paula and Poo accompany Ness during the move. PK Starstorm particle effects from EarthBound accompany each meteor, and the Sound Stone's background pattern appears in the stage's background.
- Ness no longer sinks downward while channeling PK Starstorm while airborne. In addition, if this Final Smash was initiated while in the air, Ness is propelled upward a moderate amount at the conclusion. This can assist in recovery.