Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Ness

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Aesthetics

  • Change Due to the aesthetic used in Ultimate, Ness' model features a more subdued color scheme, now more closely resembles his sprite in EarthBound. The detailing on his clothes and weapons are more prominent, such as the stitching on his socks.
  • Change Ness faces the foreground at an angle, instead of facing directly forward. In addition, he always faces the screen regardless of which direction he turns, causing all of his animations to be mirrored while altering some, such as his dash animation.
  • Change Ness' idle animation has been altered: he keeps his arms to his side rather than swinging them around.
  • Change Ness, like many other characters, has been made much more expressive. He is much angrier when attacking, such as using his tilts. His eyes bulge and grow more circular when he is hit or frozen. His eyebrows are much more prominent when attacking or stunned.
  • Change Ness' PSI graphic effects have been changed: both rings are thinner and are colored magenta instead of just the smaller circle, closely resembling the appearance of Hypnosis in Mother 3.
  • Change Air dodging animation has changed.
  • Change Ness' victory poses have been slightly altered:
    • His left-inputted victory pose now shows Ness with a more astonished expression.
    • His up-inputted victory pose now shows Ness skipping into the victory area instead of hopping in place.
    • His right-inputted victory pose now has Ness swing his bat only once instead of multiple times, in a similar manner to his forward smash.
  • Change Ness has a new victory theme; it is an arrangement of the last two out of the Eight Melodies from EarthBound Beginnings.

Attributes

  • Buff Like all characters, Ness' jumpsquat animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).
  • Buff Ness runs faster (1.46265 → 1.609).
    • Buff Ness' initial dash is significantly faster (1.3 → 1.826).
  • Buff Ness walks slightly faster (0.8635 → 0.907).
  • Buff Ness' air speed is faster (0.9588 → 1.007).
  • Buff Ness' traction has been significantly increased (0.0546 → 0.131), going from average to being tied for the fifth-highest traction in the game.
  • Buff Ness' jumping height has been increased (34.47 → 34.48 (full hop), 34.47 → 45.65 (double hop), 68.95 → 80.13 (maximum)).
  • Buff Forward roll has less ending lag (FAF 31 → 30).
  • Nerf Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 4-15).
  • Nerf Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 5-16), and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 35).
  • Buff Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 28 → 26).
  • Nerf Spot dodge grants less intangibility (frames 3-18 → 3-17).
  • Nerf Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 60), being one of the slowest.
  • Buff Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
  • Buff The reintroduction of directional air dodges benefits Ness more than the rest of the cast, as his directional air dodge grants more distance compared to other characters' (a trait he shares with Lucas), and it provides him with a reliable recovery mixup to avoid leaving himself vulnerable by using PK Thunder.

Ground attacks

  • Neutral attack:
    • Buff The first hit drags opponents towards Ness with the farthest hitboxes (361° → 180°), and the second hit uses a different angle throughout (70° → 361°). Both hits also have altered knockback (8 base/50 scaling → 30/20 base/25/15 scaling (hit 1), 30/20/25/20 (hit 2)). This allows for the full neutral attack to connect more reliably.
    • Buff Consecutive uses of the first hit are faster (9 frames → 7).
    • Buff The first hit transitions faster into the second hit (frame 7 → 5), which transitions faster into the third hit (frame 7 → 6).
    • Nerf All hits have a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.7× (hit 1), 1.2× (hit 2), 2× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to SDI each hit and DI the last hit.
    • Nerf The second hit deals less damage (2% → 1.5%).
    • Nerf The third hit has a shorter hitbox-duration (frames 6-9 → 6-7).
  • Forward tilt:
    • Buff Forward tilt has drastically increased base knockback (12 → 35), turning it into a viable KO option starting at around 155% from the center of Final Destination.
    • Buff It deals more damage when not angled (9% → 10%), no longer dealing less damage than the angled versions, and thus making its KO ability consistent.
    • Nerf The hitboxes have been moved slightly inwards (X offset: 0.7u/2.9u → 0.6u/2.7u), marginally reducing its range.
  • Up tilt:
    • Buff Up tilt has less startup, with the sweetspot having a longer duration (frames 7-8 → 5-6 (sourspot)/5-8 (sweetspot)), and less ending lag (FAF 32 → 29). This improves its combo potential and allows it to function more effectively as an anti-air.
    • Buff It deals more damage (7% → 9% (spark), 5% → 7% (body)) with knockback not fully compensated (42 base/126 scaling → 46/113), improving its KO potential, without worsening its combo ability due to its reduced lag and Ness' faster jumpsquat.
  • Down tilt:
    • Buff Down tilt deals more damage (4%/2% → 4.5%/3%).
    • Buff It can be interrupted earlier by actions besides another down tilt (FAF 14 → 12).
    • Buff Its base knockback and knockback scaling have been reversed (3/6 base/20 scaling → 20/3). This increases its safety on hit at low percents so that opponents in range can no longer shield in-between hits, improving its reliability for racking up damage.
    • Buff The increased shieldstun for tilts allows down tilt to repeatedly hit and keep opponents locked into their shields until they get out of the move's range or are shield stabbed, improving its offensive utility.
    • Nerf It no longer has a bonus trip chance, removing its guaranteed setups.
  • Dash attack:
    • Buff Dash attack's second hit extends backwards (Z offset: 16u → 13u-16u), improving its ability to hit opponents next to Ness.
    • Buff The last hit deals more damage (4% → 6%) and knockback (80 base/104 scaling → 85/113), significantly improving its KO potential, despite launching at a lower angle (80° → 70°).
  • Yo-yo (up smash and down smash):
    • Buff Up smash and down smash once again have their charging hitboxes from Melee and Brawl, hitting opponents repeatedly for 1% damage per hit. Unlike in those games, however, charging these moves still increases their damage, making the charging hitboxes far more useful. Notably, the mechanic where Ness cannot charge the move if too close to the ledge did not return, making it much easier to have the yo-yo hang over the ledge with a constant hitbox while charging, improving its edgeguarding potential.
    • Nerf They have a lower maximum damage multiplier (1.4× → 1.2×) and cannot be held as long as most other smash attacks.
    • Change The text on the yo-yo reads "SUPER NINTENDO 2018 MOTHER".
  • Up smash:
    • Buff Up smash has less ending lag (FAF 56 → 53).
    • Buff It no longer possesses an early hit that deals 9%, allowing it to KO more consistently.
    • Buff It has considerably more knockback scaling (60 → 79), significantly improving its KO potential.
    • Nerf It has more startup (frame 6 → 10), no longer hitting behind Ness during its first active frames.
  • Down smash:
    • Nerf Down smash deals one hit less at both sides, increasing its startup (frame 10 → 12) and reducing its total damage (12% → 11%).

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have much less landing lag (18 frames → 8 (neutral), 20 → 12 (forward), 17 → 10 (back), 14 → 8 (up), 28 → 12 (down)).
  • Neutral aerial:
    • Change Ness emits PSI from his hands when using the move. It also uses a magic effect and SFX, rather than a neutral effect and a punch SFX.
  • Forward aerial:
    • Buff Forward aerial deals more damage (1% → 1.5% (hits 1-3), 4% → 5.5% (hit 4); 7% → 10% (total)), with knockback scaling adjusted on the final hit (150 → 128), resulting in more knockback at high percents, improving its KO potential.
  • Back aerial:
    • Buff Back aerial's outer-hitbox has been moved outward and down (X offset: 2.7u → 3.7u, Y offset: 0u → 2u), improving its horizontal range and better matching the inner-hitbox in height.
  • Up aerial:
    • Change Ness has a new up aerial: he waves his hand in an overhead arc while emitting PSI from his index finger. It is a multi-hit move, dealing up to five hits.
    • Buff Up aerial has a longer hitbox duration (frames 8-11 → 8-14 (hits 1-4), 15-16 (hit 5)), and more disjointed vertical range above Ness.
    • Buff It has less ending lag (FAF 42 → 34). Coupled with its longer duration and multi-hit nature (guaranteeing opponents are launched during the latest active frames), this allows it to combo into itself in the air from low to mid percents.
    • Buff The first four hits use the autolink angle (366°). This allows Ness to drag opponents down to the ground with the move and combo into several others, which is further complemented by its lower landing lag.
    • Buff It deals more total damage (13% → 2.5% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5); 15% total), with knockback adjusted on the last hit (13 base/109 scaling → 40/180). The move deals more knockback at low to mid percents, but deals less knockback at very high percents (≈110+%), overall KOing earlier.
      • Nerf If not all hits connect, the move may do less damage than it used to.
    • Nerf Up aerial has drastically decreased horizontal range, hindering its use for landing and approaching directly.
    • Nerf It auto-cancels later (frame 27 → 34), matching its interruptibility.
    • Nerf The last hit launches at a more horizontal angle (85° → 73°). While this allows it to combo better into other moves at low percents, such as neutral and forward aerial, it greatly hinders its KO potential, as it is vulnerable to LSI.
  • Down aerial:
    • Buff Down aerial has less startup (frame 20 → 18) and ending lag (FAF 60 → 53).
    • Buff It deals more damage (12% → 14% (clean), 10% → 12% (late)) and knockback (20 base/70 scaling → 37/74 (clean), 70 scaling → 74 (late)), making it a significantly stronger meteor smash and no longer one of the weakest.
    • Buff It has a longer duration (frames 20-21 (clean)/22-25 (late) → 18-20/21-24).
    • Buff It auto-cancels earlier (frame 50 → 39), allowing Ness to auto-cancel it in a short hop like in earlier Smash titles.
    • Buff The clean hit has a much larger hitbox (3.9u → 6u), making it easier to land.
    • Buff The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes, coupled with down aerial's immensely decreased landing lag and better auto-cancel window, significantly improve its combo potential onstage.
    • Change Down aerial uses a kick SFX instead of a magic SFX on hit.
    • Change Its animation was reversed to make Ness face the screen. The landing animation was also tweaked.

Throws and other attacks

  • Change Ness grabs and pummels his opponents using PSI, with accompanying sound effects.
  • Change Forward, back and up throws are no longer weight-dependent.
  • Grabs:
    • Nerf Standing grab has increased ending lag (FAF 35 → 38).
    • Nerf Dash grab has more startup (frame 8 → 9) and ending lag (FAF 43 → 46), and slightly less horizontal range (Z2 offset: 10u → 9.8u).
  • Pummel:
    • Buff Pummel deals slightly more damage (1.2% → 1.3%).
    • Nerf It has less startup (frame 3 → 1) and ending lag (FAF 10 → 7), but deals much more hitlag (4 frames → 14), drastically increasing its effective duration. This hinders its damage-racking ability, no longer being one of the fastest pummels in the game.
    • Change It uses a magic effect, rather than a neutral effect.
  • Back throw:
    • Nerf Back throw has an altered animation. Due to this new animation, Ness releases the opponent closer to himself, slightly reducing its KO potential.
  • Up throw:
    • Buff Up throw deals more damage (10% → 12%) with no compensation on knockback, allowing it to KO middleweights at around 180%, though this is rarely practical.
  • Down throw:
    • Buff Down throw's first three hits have a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.5×), allowing it to execute faster.
    • Nerf Ness launches the opponent from it earlier (frame 30 → 27), and it has slightly increased ending lag (FAF 50 → 51), reducing its combo potential.
    • Change While the move's total damage is unchanged, it deals four hits before the throw instead of five, which have redistributed timings (frames 10/14/18/22/26 → 6/10/14/27) and damage values (0.6% (hits 1-5) → 0.5% (hits 1-3), 1.5% (hit 4)).
  • Edge attack:
    • Buff Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).

Special moves

  • PK Flash:
    • Buff PK Flash has less startup (frame 44 → 40), travels faster, and reaches its full charge much quicker (frame 150 → 117).
    • Buff It has less ending lag (uncharged: FAF 70 → 62).
    • Buff It can travel through soft and semisoft platforms. It also no longer dissipates immediately upon making contact with hard platforms, allowing its full charge to be unleashed on the ground by simply holding the button, much like in Melee.
    • Buff The explosion has a longer hitbox duration (1 → 5 frames) and is larger (size multiplier: 0.9× uncharged/1.43× fully charged → 1.05×/1.8×).
    • Buff It no longer causes helplessness when performed in the air, allowing Ness to hit opponents near edges from offstage without self-destructing.
    • Buff It has much more base knockback (10 → 50), with knockback scaling barely compensated (70 → 65), strengthening it at lower charge levels. Combined with its lower ending lag, and the increased hitlag in Ultimate, which effectively lengthens the move's frame advantage on hit due to its projectile properties, it can also start combos at low to mid percents if the opponent is hit close enough to Ness.
    • Nerf It deals significantly less damage when fully charged (37% → 27%), hindering its KO potential despite its increased knockback values.
    • Change PK Flash has a more aquamarine color and emits its respective EarthBound graphic (specifically the "α" form) upon detonating.
  • PK Fire:
    • Buff PK Fire has less startup (frame 21 → 18), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 59 → 56).
    • Buff It has significantly less landing lag (30 frames → 12), improving the aerial version's zoning ability.
    • Buff The spark is bigger and deals more damage on its initial hit (4% → 6%).
    • Buff Due to the universal nerfs to roll-intangibility frames, PK Fire can catch rolls more effectively.
    • Change The flame pillar has a faster rehit rate (11 → 7), but no longer has a hitbox that deals more damage (2%/1% → 1%). As a result, it cannot deal as much damage, but it is more consistent overall.
    • Change PK Fire pushes Ness back slightly, similar to Lucas's PK Fire.
    • Change Ness uses one hand to fire the projectile while emitting a red spark from his index finger. Diamond-shaped PSI energy also rises up within the fire pillar, resembling PK Fire γ's graphics from EarthBound.
  • PK Thunder:
    • Buff PK Thunder deals more damage (8% → 11%) and has increased knockback scaling (50 → 55), allowing it to KO near the top blast line at high percents.
    • Buff The new air dodging mechanics significantly improve its edgeguarding ability, allowing Ness to pressure opponents more reliably and force them to spend their air dodge, leaving them open to punishes.
    • Change PK Thunder emits yellow hexagon-shaped PSI energy, which more closely resembles its appearance in EarthBound.
    • Change It has an angle indicator when the ball of lighting moves close to Ness. While this allows for the player to more accurately determine the trajectory Ness will travel during PK Thunder 2, it also makes it more predictable to opponents.
  • PK Thunder 2:
    • Buff PK Thunder 2 travels further.
    • Buff In addition to its full intangibility during frames 1-9, it grants intangibility on Ness' head during frames 10-32, improving its safety for recovery.
    • Buff The window for using PK Thunder again after bouncing off a wall is much bigger. In addition, Ness enters the rebound animation when bouncing against the ground, instead of being knocked down, allowing him to use PK Thunder a second time.
    • Nerf When hit by PK Thunder 2, the opponent is always launched in the horizontal direction Ness is facing. This makes KOing at very low percents much less likely if the opponent gets hit behind Ness.
    • Change The clean hit triggers Special Zoom upon hitting an opponent.
  • PSI Magnet:
    • Buff PSI Magnet begins absorbing projectiles faster (frame 10 → 7), and has less ending lag (FAF 30 → 25).
    • Buff It no longer halts Ness' horizontal momentum in the air, functioning as it did in Brawl, improving Ness' movement options.
    • Buff It has gained a hitbox close to Ness from frame 7 onward, which deals 4% damage with weak set knockback, and can rehit opponents every 10 frames. This grants the move offensive utility, and alongside the changes above, allows it to be used in combos. The lingering hitbox can also destroy weak projectiles, improving its safety when used for absorption.
    • Change PSI Magnet emits pink diamond-shaped PSI from the center, more closely resembles its appearance in EarthBound. It also features a visible suction effect around the magnet.
  • PK Starstorm:
    • Change PK Starstorm summons slower meteors that spread out over the stage, similar to its Brawl iteration, but can still be aimed horizontally like the Smash 4 iteration. Paula and Poo accompany Ness during the move. PK Starstorm particle effects from EarthBound accompany each meteor, and the Sound Stone's background pattern appears in the stage's background.
    • Buff Ness no longer sinks downward while channeling PK Starstorm while airborne. In addition, if this Final Smash was initiated while in the air, Ness is propelled upward a moderate amount at the conclusion. This can assist in recovery.
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