Smasher talk:Mew2King

OMG this is so pathetic. Who really cares if he thats good. JUST PUT FACTS! Zmario (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

(This page is totally not made by the guy himself, for real! If you think otherwise, then...well...you're ugly.) Cafinator (talk) 01:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

...Can't...stop...self...from...posting...Wavedashing crabs...

Please stop that. --RJM ^Talk 00:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Is it true that he has Asperger's? I read it in a few youtube comments to some of his match videos.

I hear the Asperger's thing, too. People seem to think that just because someone is ridiculously good at something, he must have Asperger's or something. Or maybe he actually does have Asperger's, lol. capefeather (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

He mains Marth, guys.

Or at least he's very frequently used by him. Though if you want a source, I don't remember, lol. At some point he switched his main to Marth because his controller worsened and he figured he wouldn't be as technical as he could be. He now uses Marth almost all the time. capefeather (talk) 21:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

What's up with his picture?

That looks nothing like him. >_> also he mains Sheik, Fox, and Marth. source: mew2king. truefax

Controversies

I included some information on controversies not directly pertaining to his actual play, but to his conduct at tournaments (or in this case, his conduct at the houses of people where he's staying for tournaments). I felt that this was relevant to the article, but I'd like some input. What do you guys think? Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 23:06, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Hmm, I don't think we should have the "other" controversies, due to the fact they're not confirmed, and I wouldn't want this Wiki being used to spread such negative rumors. Omega Tyrant 23:18, 21 December 2011 (EST)

can people please add citations to these claims. If not, then I move for removal of this section. Vegerot (talk) 00:20, 24 November 2013 (EST)

The citations are there, we can't help it if they were on AllisDown, and you can just ask any active member of the Smash community and they can confirm the stuff here. Omega Tyrant 00:32, 24 November 2013 (EST)

I feel like someone should edit the article, preferably someone who doesn't have a stance on m2k's behavior, to eliminate poor wording that shows opinions supporting and opposing him. Informational wikis are generally the place for unbiased information, and the presentation of the controversies section is extremely poor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.129.01 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 24 April 2014‎

It would be quite helpful if you could point to specific passages. I have tried to go through this and remove some of the biased writing before, but am willing to accept that I might have missed some things. If you can point me (or anyone else) to specific points that you find not well written, I'd be happy to take another look. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:40, 24 April 2014 (EDT)

Someone on Reddit did a pretty good writeup on why the section is biased, something which I've personally felt for a while now. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 06:38, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

This outside reader brings up some very good points and I would support a degree of rectification to these sections. While an outright removal of all this information would not help, appropriate rewording or added sentences (such as in regard to his sandbagging or the various splitting incidents) should be a priority for this section.

I am a bit busy with other projects for now, so I likely won't be able to fix this any time soon. I'm a bit disappointed to see that the section is as biased as it is right now, as well as the fact that I did not notice this until now, but as a Wiki, we can always change it.

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 12:13, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

Just going to bring this up again, guys. This section is ridiculously biased, as I've stated before. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 00:44, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

I will attempt to shorten the sections, although I may not do a good job in choosing words to convey an unbiased tone. Look into it when I'm done. --Timson622222 (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

M2K explains the whole Japan situation. Can someone edit this into the article? I'm not sure how to phrase it myself, but what's currently written is full of half-truths. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 02:55, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

I personally feel that we should keep the section there if only to address the large amounts of rumors and stuff related to Japan. It doesn't have to be under the controversies section, but the rumors and stuff regarding the trip should be addressed, if only because it caused a, for simplicity's sake, shitstorm in the Smash community. Clarifying the events that happened there, which would require just writing the section from scratch, might be in our best interest. MegaTron1XD 03:25, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

I think the section as it is right now is fine. Covers what he did wrong, but without a lot of the accusatory tone that was present before. Maybe the Japan thing could be reworded better, but I don't know. Thoughts? --Timson622222 (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

I'd actually prefer it if all the Reddit folks shouting, "delete it, delete it!" came down here and decided to have a conversation with the Wiki rather than among themselves. If you done goofed in Smash tournament related things, we need to cover it. It's not just mere gossip or personal life information; the controversies are related to how he has performed as a Smasher. In addition, it would be better to note his improvement attempts than just flat out remove the controversies, because improvement is something that everyone wants to see. It would be better if a person made mistakes and learned from them than for someone to just flat out ignore the past and say that they were always this good. Again, post your opinions here rather than force us to make Reddit accounts because honestly? You want change, so go make it happen; discuss the page with us. MegaTron1XD 15:32, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

Mew2King weighs in on the discussion. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 06:14, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

Protection

Now why are we protecting the page now? I thought this edit war was over or is this page is a popular page for vandalism and false info since M2K is famous anyways. ..... The Pylon 09:19, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

It's been protected since the edit war earlier on the grounds that M2K wasn't stopping when we told him to. And no, he is not so famous that we need to keep it protected; no one in the Smash community is. PenguinofDeath 09:31, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

M2K's Project M characters

Fox, Falco, Roy and Mewtwo are definitely not his mains in PM. 90% of the time he goes Fox, while occasionally busting out the Mewtwo or Marth (didn't really see Marth before Apex 2014 though) when he feels like it.

I think it would be best to list Fox and Mewtwo as his mains and Bowser, Sheik, Marth, Falco and Roy as his other characters. Does everyone agree? Whiz (talk) 16:53, 18 January 2014 (EST)

I haven't seen Roy, but M2K frequently goes Falco, and has done so to success against players like Ally and Salem. --Timson622222 (talk) 17:09, 18 January 2014 (EST)

M2K's Mewtwo

I have said that M2K plays more M2 than Peach but nobody agrees. And well yes he uses Peach in more serious situations he sandbags with Mewtwo way more. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 10:28, 28 February 2014 (EST)

Sandbagging with a character a lot doesn't make them a very notable secondary (Mewtwo). Using a character for certain matchups, even against top players, makes them a pretty notable secondary (Peach). If you still disagree and can't refute, then you're in the minority. Scr7(talk · contribs) 10:56, 28 February 2014 (EST)

Pichu

Should we note M2K's Pichu? He seems to be using it alot. Only as a secondary though. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 14:33, 16 March 2014 (EDT)

It's not a secondary. It's a sandbagging choice. This doesn't deserve mention as an other character. Scr7(talk · contribs) 14:34, 16 March 2014 (EDT)

Mew2King's own comments on the "perceived controversy" section

Mew2King provided explanations for the "perceived controversy" points ~Hyper Zergling 07:14, 24 June 2014 (EDT)