Template talk:Special Moves

Can someone with more experience in making templates that include if statements help me fix this? – EP (Talk • Edits) 07:40, January 20, 2008 (EST)

Ask King M ~Crystal_Lucario 09:21, January 20, 2008 (EST)

"why did you do that? This is fine" (Moved from User talk:Megatron1)

Moved from User talk:Megatron1, re: [1]

Approximately six reasons:

1. Things are a mess right now with some {{Special Moves}}, some {{Specialmoves}} and some hardcoded "(Character) Special Moves" templates.
2. Notice how {{Link Special Moves}} and {{Meta Knight Special moves}} currently have {{delete}}s on them as redundant with {{Special Moves}} [neither of which was tagged by me]. Clearly others don't consider stuff fine as-is.
3. I had to hack together {{Multiple Special Moves}} earlier because the hardcoded templates simply don't stack by themselves. That's not a permanent solution.
4. All of the (character) Special Moves templates have redirects in them. Fixing those redirects will take yoinks. Changing to a central version (which already exists!) will both fix that for now and make fixing them trivial in future if it comes up again.
5. Notes on "Final Smashes are Brawl-only" and "Side special moves aren't in SSB64" are implemented in a godawfully-ugly way in the hardcoded templates just now, and fixing those will also be easier with a central template. [I picked R.O.B. for the first go because he's simpler - {{Special Moves}} will need to be tweaked to incorporate those notes]
6. It's something of an interim step - later, I'd like to move to {{Special Moves|character=(X)|game=(optional)}}. Again, that becomes easier to do if everything's already pointed at {{Special Moves}}.

- Reboot (talk) 19:00, 22 November 2010 (EST)

I'll currently stop my capitalization purge. However, have you recieved any support or oppose for something like this?--MegaTron1XD 19:01, 22 November 2010 (EST)

Given that an admin had plonked {{delete}}s on {{Specialmoves}}, {{Link Special Moves}} and {{Meta Knight Special moves}}, I presumed this had all been had out already and it was just waiting for someone to get round to actually doing it given the Wikia mess. - Reboot (talk) 19:11, 22 November 2010 (EST)

I was planning on replacing all the templates with {{Special Moves}} (for the reasons given above) but got sidetracked with all my other stuff. If people start replacing the individual templates with this one, then we can get rid of them and everything will be just better. Toomai Glittershine 19:40, 22 November 2010 (EST)

The reason I was reluctant to jump straight to plonking down {{Special Moves}} on each page is that you move the "data drift" from the labels (Side special move, etc) to the actual data - for instance, {{Link Special Moves}} is transcluded on eight separate pages [including each individual move listed]. It doesn't make that much sense to have to edit those later on in eight separate pages - which end up rendered in slightly different ways or linking to different redirects! - if you can enter them once and once only. Entering {{Special Moves|each=individual|move=and so on}} on {{Link Special Moves}} standardises both sets of data at centralised locations until a major rewrite of {{Special Moves}} to incorporate that data into the template itself can be countenanced. - Reboot (talk) 20:01, 22 November 2010 (EST)