Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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NOTE: Do NOT edit each section individually. Edit the entire page as a whole if you are going to be commenting on more than one suggestion.

This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

• The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
• Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
• Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
• Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
• You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
• Similarily to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it.
• Place new suggestions at the bottom of page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
• Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like "That's stupid" that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
• Check this list to view the fights that have been done; currently no repeat fights are permitted.
• Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected.
• In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
• Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
• Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
• If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, is is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
• And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date.

When the queue gets too long, suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out suggestions will be re-opened.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

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Template

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons why you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===

Suggestions

Groudon vs. Kyogre

In the aincient times, these two gods battled it out to decide the fate of the world. Now as they reawaken, who will dominate? Altaria (talk) 21:28, 17 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. So original -_-MegaTron1XD 22:27, 17 December 2010 (EST)
2. Unoriginal. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. For the same reasons why the Palkia vs. Dialga match was opposed. Plus, their effects as pokeball pokemon in Brawl don't have any notable similarities or differences, along with a vast difference in their effectiveness as pokeball pokemon (while Kyogre is arguably the best pokeball pokemon, Groudon is one of the least effective legendaries). While this would be an obvious matchup in a Smash Arena equivalent in a Pokemon Wiki, it doesn't really fit well in a Smash Bros. Wiki imo. Omega Tyrant 09:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
4. Way too original. Sure, there's original, but sometimes you can go too far with it.-Ivy73 10:50, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

How abotu Kyogre vs Groudon vs Rayquaza? havoC-- 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)

No as Rayquaza is a boss and the others are Pokeball Pokemon. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 09:22, 19 December 2010 (EST)

There's nothing that says a boss character can't compete with characters who aren't bosses themselves in the Smash Arena. While I have no opinion yet on the propose matchup above, we would be unnecessarily limiting the Smash Arena matchups if we only allowed matchups between two characters of the same class. Omega Tyrant 09:46, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Fine, another view. Rayquaza is the trio master and can control the other two. It is an unfair fight really as it is stated in the games that he can basically force them to do things. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Smash Arena is a popularity contest, in game descriptions are meaningless :p (plus, both Kyogre and Groudon have the capability to OHKO Rayquaza in the Pokemon games, with a BST only 10 points lower. So if you were to consider their actual battle capabilities, it isn't anywhere close to one sided in Rayquaza's favor). Omega Tyrant 10:54, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Fox vs. Falco

Yeah the leader and original fighter versus the semi-clone who's better. T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 22:16, 17 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. Unless Toomai already has this planned out, it should happen at some point.MegaTron1XD 22:27, 17 December 2010 (EST)
2. We haven't had this? Seriously? Reflex 08:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. Surely this has been done before? Such an obvious fight that should have happened. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)
4. Surprised this hasn't been done already. 110.174.90.69 10:40, 18 December 2010 (EST)
5. Per everyone else, surprised this isn't done. havoC-- 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
6. Which shall i choose? 98.20.68.247 13:59, 18 December 2010 (EST)
7. definitely,i cant believe it hasnt been done alreadyGig (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
8. I was going to suggest this, so I have to support it. They must be competed!!!Zeegamer (talk) 08:50, 19 December 2010 (EST)
9. This HAS to be done at one point. -BrawlingbrianLANDMASTER! 13:38, 19 December 2010 (EST)
10. It is rather peculiar that this hasn't been done yet...-Ivy73 14:43, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

Uhm, was the ALL CAPS for the intro necessary? That alone makes me feel like opposing this... Omega Tyrant 09:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Is this for Melee or for Brawl? Doc King (talk) 15:52, 21 December 2010 (EST)

New description is much better, and to answer Doc, it doesn't matter. Unless specified, it covers all games. Omega Tyrant 12:36, 22 December 2010 (EST)

Bumper vs. Flipper

One bumps people away when they come in contact with it. The other, uhm... flips people away who come in contact with it. Both highly similar in function, but unable to coexist in the same Smash Bros. game. Which of these indiscriminate obstacle items is the superior and more annoying anti-approach item? Omega Tyrant 09:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. Though in SSBM, a Bumper does exist.--MegaTron1XD 10:08, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. A unique idea for a fight. I like it. 110.174.90.69 10:41, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. Excellent idea. Two of the most annoying items in Smash history going up against each other.-Ivy73 10:44, 18 December 2010 (EST)
4. Another item V item match. Yes. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
5. Though I think it's kinda one-sided, sure. havoC-- 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. item matches are boring,lets save the items,stages and all those out of the box matches for after all the fighters are doneGig (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. Too casual and noobish! Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Comment

Heh, Doc being a stop having fun guy in the Smash Arena. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, it doesn't adhere to tournament rules. Therefore, items are fair game :p Omega Tyrant 22:03, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Mario vs. Mr. Game and Watch

Two most classic Nintendo characters. Both were starting in 2D games, and both found a place in gaming history. But who will win, the flat black man or heroic plumber? UilMash (talk) 10:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. I don't see why this wouldn't work. 110.174.90.69 10:42, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. Hmm... I guess so. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. I like the idea of iconic representatives of their respective series and of Nintendo duking it out Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 12:59, 18 December 2010 (EST)
4. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. havoC-- 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
5. meh i feel like mario would win easy but i dont see a reason why notGig (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
6. One aided in saving the home console in North America, while the other was the progenitor of handheld systems. Omega Tyrant 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
7. Nice, interesting idea in my opinion. 86.152.206.96 09:39, 20 December 2010 (EST)
8. Mama Beep! MegaTron1XD 10:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
9. Why not? Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Pikachu vs. Pichu

Two representatives from the same series, but one of them had to leave. One mascot, one mascot's little brother. Which one will prevail? A classic case of sibling rivalry! Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 12:56, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. Gerbil fight! havoC-- 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. why notGig (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. wHy did pichu must leave :*( I loved him. This match would be a hard one with both having similar moves and techniquesZeegamer (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2010 (EST)
4. Yeah, why not. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. NFE will fail against the evolved version.MegaTron1XD 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. I'm not of the opinion that just because two characters are "clones" or "semi-clones", they'll make a good SA matchup. I'm against this as it's simply a matchup between one character and a clone that could be considered an inferior version. This matchup is pretty bland to me and I wouldn't have much interest in voting in it. Omega Tyrant 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
3. Without Insane Crazy Guy, this battle would be kind of boring. Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Charizard vs. Ivysaur vs. Squirtle

The three of the Pokémon Trainer's Pokémon battle it out to decide who is the best. (Not sure if this will work but after seeing Round 64, it could. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:08, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. seems like a good idea,lets find out which starter pokemon is the peoples favoriteGig (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. At least the type matchup isn't fixed.MegaTron1XD 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. I like the idea of having fights with more than two fighters occasionally. 110.174.90.69 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
4. Finding out which of the Pokemon Trainer's pokemon is most popular is a SA matchup I'm heavily interested in. Omega Tyrant 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
5. Yep, it's a pretty good idea. --UilMash (talk) 11:38, 19 December 2010 (EST)
6. The fight of the comrades.-Ivy73 16:58, 19 December 2010 (EST)
7. That's PERFECT! Why didn't I think of that?--Altaria (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2010 (EST)
8. Good idea Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

1. lets make this the last round with more than two contestants,the last match was way too one sided considering the large amount of options,it was quite dishearteningGig (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Mario vs. Wario

Nintendo superstar vs his evil counterpart gone anti heroGig (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. cool must go with this, great idea. The main hero against his stupid antagonaist WARIO NUMBUH ONE :D.Zeegamer (talk) 09:20, 19 December 2010 (EST)
2. Surprised this hasn't been done. 110.174.90.69 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
3. I guess it might work. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)
4. Would probably work. Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. Very original :/MegaTron1XD 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Diddy Kong vs Luigi

Both sidekicks, have had their buddies kidnapped before on various occasions, and have few games dedicated to each other. Both fan favorites with clearly not enough attention given to them. havoC-- 15:32, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. No Mario :DMegaTron1XD 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
2. I like.-Ivy73 16:39, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3. I love them both than the main characters (mrio,Dk) Diddy is awesome such as luigi.Zeegamer (talk) 09:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
4. It's similar to the Diddy Kong vs Falco one but still a good idea. 110.174.90.69 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
5. It would work. Yes. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. Hmm, I'm not really interested in this. Outside of Galaxy, Luigi isn't a sidekick. I also don't agree with Diddy Kong not getting enough attention unlike Luigi. Omega Tyrant 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)

Deoxys vs Suicune

Two legendary Pokemon from different generations, but both have good effects and are very powerful. Who will dominate, the aqua canine or the alien mutant? -Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 20:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. While both pokemon aren't similar in look or in the Pokemon games, as pokeball pokemon, they do have notable similarities and key differences. Both are among four pokemon who can OHKO in Brawl, and they both attack via beam. Then when you compare the functioning of their beam attacks, they have some key differences. Suicune hits once, is completed very quickly, and traverses the whole screen horizontally. Deoxys' hits multiple times, takes more than a few seconds to be completed, and traverses the whole screen vertically. With these key similarities and differences, I fully support this matchup. This is imo, the most interesting matchup proposed among the current suggestions. Omega Tyrant 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
2. What OT said. :p ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 12:02, 19 December 2010 (EST)
3. Let's fire lasers!MegaTron1XD 20:21, 19 December 2010 (EST)
4. This will be interesting. I'll love to see how this turns out.--Altaria (talk) 19:46, 20 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. I love pokemon and legendary pokemon indeed but those 2 have no similarities one is a canine and the other is an alien!?!?!?Zeegamer (talk) 09:22, 19 December 2010 (EST)
2. Don't really see how these two pokemon have anything in common. 110.174.90.69 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
3. Idems suck! Doc King (talk) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Pikmin vs. Popo

Both semi-characters, not exactally playable. One looks to its freind, the other(s) look to their captain. Who will win? The kid, or the hybrids? Freddy32 (talk) 16:38 19 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. Uhm, I think you mean Nana, as Nana is the default support Ice Climber, not Popo. Therefore, having Pikmin vs. Nana is more sensible. But otherwise, I completely disagree with those of the oppose section. Minus these two, Olimar and the Ice Climbers would be bottom of the bottom tier, unable to do anything that brought them into the high tier. These two supporting characters are essential to the playable character they're a part of and their advance techniques. I'll also like to remind those in the oppose section that the Smash Arena isn't limited to playable characters, or anything for that matter. As long as it exists in the Smash universe, it's fair game for the Smash Arena. So these two being "semi-characters" is irrelevant for whether or not this would "work" in the Smash Arena. For a concluding statement, Olimar vs. Ice Clmbers could work instead, though I find this matchup more interesting. Omega Tyrant 12:47, 22 December 2010 (EST)
2. Omega is right, changing my mind. And people can't make any stupid votes really. Doc King (talk) 15:20, 22 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. Popo can be controlled, via costume change or with Nana being trapped.MegaTron1XD 20:21, 19 December 2010 (EST)
2. What he said. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 01:57, 20 December 2010 (EST)
3. This just won't work. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:05, 20 December 2010 (EST)
4. What they said.-Ivy73 12:36, 21 December 2010 (EST)
5. The idea of using "semi-characters" for the Smash Arena is just a little farfetched.Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 18:28, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

OT, the thing is, both need to have articles. Pikmin has an article, but Nana doesn't, so I don't think it could work. Furthermore, Nana isn't always the secondary Ice Climber. Mr. Anon (talk) 15:37, 22 December 2010 (EST)

There's nothing that says something needs an article to be involved in a matchup in the Smash Arena, you're just making unnecessary assertions. And Nana is the default support climber. Therefore, having her in a matchup against Pikmin is correct in a matchup of support characters. One's alternate costume preference has no bearing here. Omega Tyrant 16:12, 22 December 2010 (EST)

Battlefield vs Final Destination

The two most basic stages in Melee and Brawl and the stages that have appeared in every Smash game. Both have epic music. Both are mysterious floating platforms whose origins are unknown, in space, and another that apparently can teleport around. One, the home of the great Master Hand, and the other, the home of his formidable army. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:04, 20 December 2010 (EST)

Support

1. Although Final Destination is not exacty a fair stage, both stages are representing the Super Smash Bros universe and are argueably the most played stages in SSBM and SSBB. I think this would be a great idea.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 00:49, 21 December 2010 (EST)
2. They are two of the most iconic stages, and are the two stages I play most on. Omega Tyrant 02:44, 21 December 2010 (EST)
3. I see what you mean. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:28, 21 December 2010 (EST)
4. I only have 3 favorite stages, and these 2 are 2 of them.MegaTron1XD 10:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
5. They´re both probably the most epic stages of the whole game, almost every combo video is made in these two stages. Zero (talk) 10:56, 21 December 2010 (EST)
6. Two Smash stages against each other...:)-Ivy73 12:36, 21 December 2010 (EST)
7. This would be a good idea. Doc King (talk) 15:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
8. I just have a gut feeling that this would turn out excellent. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 18:30, 21 December 2010 (EST)
9. Great idea. The only two stages to appear in every Smash game, dueling. --86.152.206.96 04:37, 22 December 2010 (EST)
10. Well, it would be nice to see another stage fight, plus i would like to see my favorite stages dueling. --UilMash (talk) 05:06, 22 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

Your description is faulty. Final Destination is far from being one of the most "fair" stages, especially in Brawl. When a stage can be considered a hard counter via it heavily favoring some characters and being highly detrimental to others, it is clearly not a "fair" stage in terms of matchup balance. Omega Tyrant 23:20, 20 December 2010 (EST)

Change in description is better. Omega Tyrant 02:44, 21 December 2010 (EST)

Pikmin vs. Olimar

Olimar would obviously be nothing without his pikmin, but there's a reason why they were almost extinct before Olimar showed up. Who will win, the guys doing the dirty work or the brains behind it all? --Jelloratbob (talk) 17:59, 23 December 2010 (EST)

Oppose

1. As I said for Pikmin vs. Popo, this is a little farfetched. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 18:16, 23 December 2010 (EST)

King Dedede vs. Snake

2 Super Heavyweights with pretty good tourney experience, hard KOing up tilts, strong power, fast falling speed, and amazing momentum cancel. Which super heavyweight will win? Doc King (talk) 21:32, 23 December 2010 (EST)