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==Round 183: [[Knee Smash]] vs. [[Falcon Punch]]==
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===Votes for ''Knee Smash''===
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#Very much more satisfying when you land this one, it feels like a much more solid hit.[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 23:25, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
#Falcon Punch can get cancelled by Jigglypuff's neutral attack.[[Special:Contributions/84.92.35.200|84.92.35.200]] 05:15, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#I played Street Fighter for the Playstation with my sister yesterday as Allen. I KO'd her character with a knee attack, to which I said: "Knee of Justice! Oh, wait, that's Captain Falcon." [[User:Lugiaboy202|Lugiaboy202]] ([[User talk:Lugiaboy202|talk]]) 07:29, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#Much as I'd like to claim I kneerly voted the other way, I've always favoured the Knee Smash. I think it's more satisfying and entertaining to land. Plus, Ganondorf doesn't have a superior version of this move. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:16, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#I have seen a couple of Captain Falcon combo videos, and most of them always finish off the opponent with a well landed Knee Smash.  --<span style="font-family: Super Smash Font; font-size: 10pt"> [[User:Airconny|
<font color="black">Air</font>]][[User talk:Airconny|<font color="gray">conny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 08:44, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#Falcon Punch is slower.--<span style="border:2px outset orange;background-color: gold">'''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color="red">PSIWolf</font>]]'''</span> <small>[[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color="#4169e1">a.k.a.</font>]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color="#228b22">Luna!</font>]] 09:17, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#Right you are, previous voter. Falcon Punch is pretty lacking in practicality. Knee Smash beats the banjos out of Falcon Punch any 'ole day of the week. [[Special:Contributions/67.166.229.4|67.166.229.4]] 11:25, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#Much more of a surprising attack, therefore, more effective [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]]
#<s>They're both overrated pieces of stupidity</s> I personally prefer this one. [[User:Fedorakeeby11|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Fedora'''</span>]][[User talk:Fedorakeeby11|''<span style="color: orange;">keeby11</span>'']][[File:Yellowkirby.png|20px]] Failcon Pawch!! 06:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:ShupaRoeh|<span style="color:red">Shupa</span>]][[User talk:ShupaRoeh|<span style="color:blue">Roeh</span>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px]] 11:25, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y8rQ_0zNIg This move almost single-handedly made Falcon top tier in Melee.]--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 12:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
#Do I need to explain? <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:yellow">April</span> <span style="color:blue">Showers</span>]]</span> 12:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Dots|<font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Ultimate Chimera 09:01, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
#He electricutes people with his knee. How does that even work?[[Special:Contributions/174.20.229.39|174.20.229.39]] 21:45, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
#He doesn't scream out the name of the move...[[User talk: Crazy Hand|Crazy Hand (talk)]] [[file:CrazyHandPhoto.jpg|19px]] 10:03, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
#No other move provides the awesomeness and practicality the knee of justice does. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:28, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Falcon Punch''===
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#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw|That scene from the anime]. [[Special:Contributions/204.191.134.186|204.191.134.186]] 23:41, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
# More well known.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:03, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
# FALCON PAWNCH!!!!!!  Does Knee Smash have any cool sound effect?[[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 07:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#The ultimate in badass finishers. [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 15:08, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#The flame effects. Gotta love 'em! [[User:SmashBall104|SmashBall the Milkshake]] ([[User talk:SmashBall104|talk]]) 17:13, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#knee smash, compare that to falcon punch! [[User:Griffin947|Griffin]][[User talk:Griffin947|947]][[File:DP99Majora.png|DP99Majora.png]]19:24, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
#Do I even need to say why? [[Special:Contributions/86.142.3.131|86.142.3.131]] 03:05, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
#FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!! Plucked Pikmin 11:17, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
#I love [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY7xg92aNrY this music][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 12:47, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
#Screw knee smash, falcon punch all the way. FALCON PAWWWWWNNNNNNCCCHH.--[[Special:Contributions/92.42.57.34|92.42.57.34]] 05:00, 16 April 2013 (EDT)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIEM31KhgSk| UN Owen was Captain Falcon] [[Special:Contributions/142.244.147.205|142.244.147.205]] 10:28, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
#YESZ! I propose we try and make this a tie, since both are needed to perform a Sacred Combo. [[User:Lyra|Lyra]] ([[User talk:Lyra|talk]]) 21:46, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
#Screw practicality. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 00:07, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
#How can the Falcon Punch lose? <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  15:53, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
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#I pick meme over Knee. {{unsigned|92.26.221.170|15:00, 16 April 2013}}
#It does catastrophic damage.[[User:My Unit]]18:50, 19 April 2013 (EDT) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:My Unit|My Unit]] ([[User talk:My Unit|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/My Unit|contribs]]) 20:51, 19 April 2013 (EDT)</small>
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I'm really surprised the Falcon Punch lost. [[Special:Contributions/50.33.229.255|50.33.229.255]] 08:15, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
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Round 181: Falco vs. Olimar

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 Winner!!
Tie
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15.5 to 15.5
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One tall and one short, one boasting and one humble, one individual and one delegating - yet both top tier and ready to fight.

Votes for Falco

  1. You used the Melee Picture--BrianDon't try me!Falco.gif 20:39, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  2. Oh ya. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 21:56, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  3. More challenging. Always ruins my DACUS with that darn blaster when I need to use it the most. --Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png Doing the DACUS 21:58, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  4. He's my secondary in Brawl.Awesome Cardinal 2000 23:13, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  5. Falcon Pun... oh wait wrong character. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Lamp 23:40, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  6. I never liked facing Olimar. I'm more familiar with Falco. --HavocReaper48 00:55, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  7. I even named my cat Falco, so... Too bad he went missing a few days ago and is now probably dead ;_;--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 04:36, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  8. Falco is awesome in both Star Fox and Smash Bros. Also he's my main in Melee. 84.92.35.200 05:24, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  9. Because Star Fox > Pikmin. Air Conditioner AC.png likes pie 10:46, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  10. Pikmin sucks! SmashBall the Handsome (talk) 15:42, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  11. To me, Falco is meh. This vote is solely because I ******* HATE OLIMAR!!!174.20.238.9 13:00, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  12. Somehow, I can manage SHDLs in WiFi lag. Also, Falco is a clone of my older brother's main. BlueRidiculous 14:17, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  13. laser lock Fedorakeeby11Yellowkirby.png Failcon Pawch!! 08:13, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I am a lot better with Falco.50.92.120.217 19:23, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. Falco FTW173.79.214.38 15:49, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

  1. DO A BARREL ROLL!Color|red|air —Preceding unsigned comment added by griffin947 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Olimar

  1. This dude packs quite a wallop, I tell you what. Granted, Olimar can be quite a headache to master. But I'm starting to get the hang of it. Bowser, Ganondorf, Ike, whatever...eat your hearts out! 67.166.229.4 22:02, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  2. I think he's better than Falco. Simple as that.Tepig (talk) 22:45, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  3. Currently losing. 204.191.134.186 04:34, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  4. He has a helmet! Terrible is St. Patrick 09:18, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  5. One-man army < actual army. infernape612 11:06, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  6. Pikmin 2 is my favorite game. Never played Star Fox. What's that you say? This match is about the characters in Smash, not the games they come from? Hmm. --174.59.4.202 18:07, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  7. Because Falco's side-B has gotten me killed more times than I've used him.My Unit 12:10, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  8. 75.31.4.16 16:51, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  9. F.T.B. (TALK) Zoso.svg 14:56, 1 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Currently higher on the tier list. 129.128.29.138 10:41, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. You all know who I'd Pik. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 11:01, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. Very close. Only because of falco's dash thingey that always gets me off the stage and helpless. CaptainNStrike (talk) 11:28, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Just to tie things up. 142.244.178.224 11:31, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I just like him better. Crazy Hand (talk) File:CrazyHandPhoto.jpg 18:14, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. HE IS AWESOME! User talk: Plucked Pikmin 12:39, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

  1. He is actually from a decent game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.181.179 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Comments

I actually think (although this is a little late) Falco would top Olimar even though he brags.--99.88.122.63 15:11, 7 April 2013 (EDT)

Round 182: Peach's Castle vs. Hyrule Castle

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Peach's Castle
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25 to 17
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Epic castles on green grounds that serve as two of the first arenas in the series. With roofs as red and green as their protagonists' and rulers of equal job descriptions, which stone sanctuary besieges the other?

Votes for Peach's Castle

  1. --HavocReaper48 01:13, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Super Mario 64. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 01:50, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. James is my man.--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 07:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. SM64. Terrible is April Showers 13:54, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. Magical paintings, don't go saying peach's castle = no magic. Fedorakeeby11Yellowkirby.png Failcon Pawch!! 07:14, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. If it were on the basis of the Super Smash Bros. stages themselves, then I'd go Hyrule. But as it's the castles themselves, I love to go around Peach's Castle in Super Mario 64 DS, dialogue hunting. Hyrule Castle... Spoilers Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:36, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. What James said. 84.92.35.200 14:34, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. I just like Mario better.Tepig (talk) 14:38, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. Peaches Castle. Mario FTW! --99.88.122.63 15:07, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Mario 64 is a game of which I have many fond memories. RickTommy 04:07, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. SM64, Mariokart 64, and Paper Mario (in space!). Plus, I just like Mario better. Crazy Hand (talk) File:CrazyHandPhoto.jpg 10:03, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. 142.244.124.18 11:17, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. I just love Mario better than Zelda. SmashBall the Handsome (talk) 21:31, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. It has big slides. I don't recall seeing anything like that in Hyrule castle. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:19, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. A great trip! ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 00:04, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. Because I felt like voting for this castle. 129.128.29.138 10:07, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  17. I greatly dislike LoZ. I greatly love Mario. Lugiaboy202 (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  18. Peach's Castle is the only one I'm familiar with, plus I know it's better. User:Plucked Pikmin 13:54, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  19. What James said. Smash Master 16:43, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  20. Never really liked zelda, but i really like super mario 64 ds Baconlover9090 (talk) 17:56, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  21. You didnt really do much at Hyrule Castle in OoT. Unknown the Hedgehog 21:21, 10 April 2013 (EDT)
  22. I like this castle better because I don't really play the Legend of Zelda. Pokebub (talk) 21:02, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
  23. Mario games > Zelda games. =3 24.1.115.173 08:20, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  24. Running around this castle was my childhood passtime.--GameWinter (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  25. DANG IT IF I WOULD'VE VOTED LAST TIME OLIMAR WOULD'VE WON!!!! ChuckNorris24.png 18:10, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Hyrule Castle

  1. If the Mushroom Kingdom gets a different ruler, they would have to change the name of Peach's Castle. That isn't a problem in Hyrule Castle; it keeps its name, regardless of the ruler.71.105.121.171 00:07, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Ocarina of Time for the win. :D Dots MewtwoMS.png The Wolf 00:10, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. duh DoctorPain99DP99Majora.png 00:26, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. Looks cooler. 204.191.134.186 02:35, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. Looks more like a real castle. Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. I played both games, but I'll be darned if sneaking into a castle isn't considered fun. I also enjoy Oot so much. -- Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 09:12, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Zelda has magic. Peach has... vegetables? Shouldn't it be fruit that she usually uses?174.20.238.9 11:10, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. 75.31.4.16 11:54, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. Zelda is cooler. infernape612 12:19, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Peach's Castle is too fruity. BlueRidiculous 14:57, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. Who would bother playing a serious match on Peach's Castle? Not me, so I'll vote Hyrule Castle. 67.166.229.4 19:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. This is where the final match of TRG's SSB64 Tournament took place. Toadat9021doh (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Far more enjoyable stage. 110.174.90.69 00:54, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I just think this is from a cooler series Griffin94719:04, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. Hyrule Castle, in my opinion, is designed better, is much less garish, actually has some semblance of security, and is helmed by a relatively competent ruler. Also, you don't wanna underestimate The King. Hawk 21PSIWolf sig 1.pngTalk 16:05, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. I fell in love with Zelda with OoT. Plus, this is the only stage used in SSB. in Peru, and they're no joke. Doomolish (talk) 02:00, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  17. I prefer Link to Mario and Zelda to Peach. 86.155.48.115 09:10, 9 April 2013 (EDT)

Comments

Round 183: Knee Smash vs. Falcon Punch

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 Winner!!
Knee Smash
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16 to 15
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While the former is certainly less memetic than the latter, it tends to be significantly more useful in-game. Which move earns top spot?

Votes for Knee Smash

  1. Very much more satisfying when you land this one, it feels like a much more solid hit.75.31.4.16 23:25, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Falcon Punch can get cancelled by Jigglypuff's neutral attack.84.92.35.200 05:15, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. I played Street Fighter for the Playstation with my sister yesterday as Allen. I KO'd her character with a knee attack, to which I said: "Knee of Justice! Oh, wait, that's Captain Falcon." Lugiaboy202 (talk) 07:29, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. Much as I'd like to claim I kneerly voted the other way, I've always favoured the Knee Smash. I think it's more satisfying and entertaining to land. Plus, Ganondorf doesn't have a superior version of this move. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:16, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. I have seen a couple of Captain Falcon combo videos, and most of them always finish off the opponent with a well landed Knee Smash. -- Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 08:44, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. Falcon Punch is slower.--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 09:17, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Right you are, previous voter. Falcon Punch is pretty lacking in practicality. Knee Smash beats the banjos out of Falcon Punch any 'ole day of the week. 67.166.229.4 11:25, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. Much more of a surprising attack, therefore, more effective :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png
  9. They're both overrated pieces of stupidity I personally prefer this one. Fedorakeeby11Yellowkirby.png Failcon Pawch!! 06:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 11:25, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. This move almost single-handedly made Falcon top tier in Melee.--BrianDon't try me!Falco.gif 12:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. Do I need to explain? Terrible is April Showers 12:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Ultimate Chimera 09:01, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. He electricutes people with his knee. How does that even work?174.20.229.39 21:45, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. He doesn't scream out the name of the move...Crazy Hand (talk) File:CrazyHandPhoto.jpg 10:03, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. No other move provides the awesomeness and practicality the knee of justice does. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:28, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Falcon Punch

  1. scene from the anime. 204.191.134.186 23:41, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. More well known.71.105.121.171 00:03, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. FALCON PAWNCH!!!!!! Does Knee Smash have any cool sound effect?Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. The ultimate in badass finishers. infernape612 15:08, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. The flame effects. Gotta love 'em! SmashBall the Milkshake (talk) 17:13, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. knee smash, compare that to falcon punch! Griffin947DP99Majora.png19:24, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Do I even need to say why? 86.142.3.131 03:05, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!! Plucked Pikmin 11:17, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. I love this musicTepig (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Screw knee smash, falcon punch all the way. FALCON PAWWWWWNNNNNNCCCHH.--92.42.57.34 05:00, 16 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. UN Owen was Captain Falcon 142.244.147.205 10:28, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. YESZ! I propose we try and make this a tie, since both are needed to perform a Sacred Combo. Lyra (talk) 21:46, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Screw practicality. --HavocReaper48 00:07, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. How can the Falcon Punch lose? ChuckNorris24.png 15:53, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

  1. I pick meme over Knee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.221.170 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 16 April 2013
  2. It does catastrophic damage.User:My Unit18:50, 19 April 2013 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by My Unit (talk • contribs) 20:51, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

Comments

I'm really surprised the Falcon Punch lost. 50.33.229.255 08:15, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

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