Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

Posting suggestions

• Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
• If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
• Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred 100 or more rounds ago. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
• Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week (i.e. one every seven days).
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
• Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page.
• You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
• Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.

Voting and comments

• Don't vote for your own suggestion.
• Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
• Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
• Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.

Acceptance or rejection

• The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
• Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
• Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
  • In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
• If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
• Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.

Tips

• In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
• Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
• Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary. Fights of more than three participants have to be exceptional in order to be selected, and will likely be reserved for special rounds, so don't try too hard to make one work.
• The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

Show Your Support

	LADIES & GENTS! Come to the Smash Arena and vote on Round 132: Bayonetta vs. Sora!

Template:- {{SA Box}} - Smash Arena userbox; originally by Squallinoa 08, modified by Toomai. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.

Template

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===

Suggestions

Mario Bros. Madness vs. Wario Bros.

Both events match you up against the famous Mario Bros. Is the two-minute battle or the two-stock battle against them superior? Toadat9021doh (talk) 23:36, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. Interesting. 123JamesHeart 17:35, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Great! ShupaRoeh 10:24, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
3. This seems pretty good Ikeroks 18:21, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
4. I like this one. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 12:26, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. This won't be really interesting.194.17.116.198 05:13, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
2. NOOOO!37.17.253.253 14:35, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Midair Stadium vs. Pokémon Stadium

Two stadiums. Which one would you like to go to?194.17.116.198 03:29, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. That's interesting. ShupaRoeh 23:42, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
2. 204.191.133.47 18:02, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
3. Very interesting. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 12:26, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
4. AWESOME! YEEEEEES!37.17.253.253 14:36, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
5. Another original thing! :D AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:18, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Not to be mean but i really don't like this one Ikeroks 20:45, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Comments

Going even on this one. LightningBlue: Cinco de Smash 20:47, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

They are similar, true, but freely-selectable against SSE-only might result in this being one-sided. I too, am neutral. Toast ltimatum 20:50, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Target Smash!! vs Board the Platforms

Courses with 10 targets/platforms that you need to destroy/land on as quickly as possible. 199.185.67.18 11:07, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. I don't mind it but Trophy Catch would've been better. LightningBlue: Cinco de Smash 22:08, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Say, this might be good. ShupaRoeh 10:44, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
3. I think this could make for an interesting fight. Toast ltimatum 14:06, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Sure, why not. 204.191.133.47 18:02, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
5. This match is great. ..... The Scientist 11:55, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
6. Per above. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 12:26, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
7. This one would be nice, interesting, and original. AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:18, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Don't like this one Ikeroks 20:46, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Light Arrow vs Critical Hit

Both are fast, go in a straight line, can hit multiple targets, and are almost always KO's. But which one do you like more? --AquaKawwi (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. I think these are similar enough to justify a fight. Toast ltimatum 20:50, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Per Toast. Avengingbandit 22:12, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
3. Could work. I'd like to see what would happen. Also, what Toast said. AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 12:42, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Don't listen to the oppose. I agree with Toast. ..... The Scientist 14:02, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
5. I guess I don't mind this. 204.191.133.47 18:02, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
6. They're related enough... DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 12:26, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
7. Light Arrow vs. Critical Hit. F1reBurn1ng (talk) 14:43, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Uh... not much of relevance to these. Since they do different things. Anyways I believe final smash ones should be relavant. Your description is a little ambiguous though. LightningBlue: Cinco de Smash 20:46, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
2. I really don't like this one not trying to be mean but yeah Ikeroks 20:47, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
3. Meh. ShupaRoeh 10:40, 6 June 2012 (EDT)

Master Hand vs. Giga Bowser vs. Tabuu

The three final bosses of the Smash series get together to ultimately decide which antagonist has the last word in final. 24.168.107.113 21:40, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. Does it really though, Avengingbandit? This could be won by any of these three, I couldn't call it, and so it makes for a good match. Toast ltimatum
2. This battle could be meaningful. ShupaRoeh 09:43, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
3. The most powerful bosses. Great idea. ..... The EarthBound 10:51, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Final Bosses are good. LightningBlue: Summer with Melee and Brawl 14:55, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
5. Per Toast. 123JamesHeart 16:33, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
6. It's awesome--AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:18, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
7. Per Toast and ShupaRoeh. --GameWinter (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
8. *Snaps fingers* Damn...I wanted to suggest this. Oh well, GO...uh F.BOSSES Headmaster Hand (talk) 18:28, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
9. Great. Meta Ike 22:26, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. It sucks--Avengingbandit 23:21, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Its not the best one Ikeroks 14:50, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Comments

Hey avenging you stole shwido's quote! Did he condone this? ShupaRoeh 09:42, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

I don't care what Dodo thinks about me stealing his quote. :| Avengingbandit 11:30, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

HOW DARE YOU STEAL MY QUOTE, AS PUNISHMENT I'LL MAKE THIS REALLY HARD TO READ--Shwido ^.^ 11:38, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

HOW DARE YOU MAKE THAT HARD TO READ, AS PUNISHMENT I'LL MAKE THIS MORE HARDER TO READ--Avengingbandit 11:41, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

So Toast, when did you post your support vote?--Avengingbandit 12:01, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Zero Suit Samus vs. Snake

We have seen Samus vs. Snake and that ended in a tie. But what if Samus took her power suit off and fought Snake? Would she win or would she give Snake an upper hand? They are both mercenaries, skilled fighters and experts in the field of battle. Who would really win? --GameWinter (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. It rocks--SuperGameandWatch 16:35, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Zamus and Snake have a lot of similarities. Both crawl, neither enters helpless state, both are some of the few characters who speak full sentences. Not to mention they share all the similarities of Samus v Snake. Mr. Anontalk 18:40, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
3. That's a pretty good idea. Wish I thought of it. --SmashMaster (talk) 21:42, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
4. That's an awsome idea! I hope this happens! --Awsomenick3 (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
5. Per everybody above. Meta Ike 22:28, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. It sucks--Avengingbandit 16:43, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Per Avengingbandit. AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:18, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
3. What about Luigi? He can crawl as well. Ok, besides this awkward comparison, they have no real similarities. Zamus has speed unlike Snake, which has more stealth. LightningBlue: Summer with Melee and Brawl 14:19, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Comments

ShupaRoeh: You do realize you haven't been renamed, right?--Avengingbandit 16:43, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

I know. Sometimes one wants to be imaginative. I'm an example. SuperGameandWatch 16:45, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Ok trained mercenaries? I still am skeptical of this one. But Samus vs. Snake was better fit because of power vs. power and projectiles vs. projectiles. LightningBlue: Summer with Melee and Brawl 14:23, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Pikmin vs. Mites

While a single member of these species are weak on their own, many members of them can be powerful. Which species is the better representative of the 'power in numbers' theory? Toadat9021doh (talk) 21:46, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. That would be interesting to see when you think about it. --GameWinter (talk) 21:49, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
2. I agree with GameWinter, that would be interesting to see. --Awsomenick3 (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
3. Well, both of them are small, they come in different colors, they are weak alone and they are powerful in a group. Nice match up Toadat9021doh. --SmashMaster (talk) 22:00, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Awesome idea, surprised it hadn't been suggested yet. 110.174.90.69 04:56, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
5. A creative idea. Toast ltimatum 07:10, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
6. I like this one! AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:35, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
7. It rocks--SuperGameandWatch 13:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

GameCube controller vs. Classic Controller vs. Wii Remote vs. Wii Remote and Nunchuk

The four Brawl controllers collide to contest each other. Which one is the superior scheme? AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:35, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. Four-way is a bit dubious, but the idea is too good to turn down. Toast ltimatum 09:41, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Regarding the 4-way, it'll be up to Toomai on how to run this one, but it sure has my support. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 11:21, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
3. It rocks--SuperGameandWatch 13:14, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Wow, this is the first suggestion not to receive an "It sucks" by me. Anyways, per above.--Avengingbandit 03:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
5. How creative. 199.185.67.18 11:39, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Hero's Bow vs. Palutena's Arrow

The two crossbow attacks; one is more traditional, the other is imbued with happy-fairy-magic. These two attacks are even used in the exact same context in alternating cutscenes of the Subspace Emissary. But which is preferred? Toast ltimatum 09:41, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. It rocks--SuperGameandWatch 13:13, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Good enough. LightningBlue: Summer with Melee and Brawl 14:20, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
3. This one would be an interesting fight. AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 14:33, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. It sucks--Avengingbandit 03:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Giga Bowser vs. Giant Mario

The two enormous powerhouses from the final events of Melee and Brawl fight each other. Which one will be the Giga of the match? SuperGameandWatch 15:51, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Support

1. That would be interesting to see. Two giant rivals duking it out is always an entertaining match up. --GameWinter (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. It sucks--Avengingbandit 03:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
2. We already know who will win. I had a tough time with Giga Bowser back at Melee, and I defeated Mario FIRST in the event. Headmaster Hand (talk) 18:38, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Comments

I need a pic of Giant Mario, if the Event 41 image isn't adequate. SuperGameandWatch 18:23, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

Toon Link vs. King Dedede

These two both have one thing in common: they're cartoons. But who is superior? Is the hammer mightier than the sword? Or vice versa? YOU DECIDE!

Oppose

1. It sucks--Avengingbandit 03:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
2. Dedede isn't cartoon.Shanicpower 08:55, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
3. It fails--ShupaRoeh 11:04, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
4. Per Avengingbandit and ShupaRoeh. --GameWinter (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
5. Per everyone else. Also, you forgot to sign your name. AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:05, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
6. King Dedede was in a cartoon, but so were Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Kirby, Meta Knight, Pikachu, Pokémon Trainer, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Pit, Captain Falcon, and Sonic. Toast ltimatum 17:08, 11 June 2012 (EDT)