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Added Mario's jab 3 to the list of similar moves & removed the comp. expertise banner, →Hitboxes: Fixed the move timing, and added the IASA frames, →Overview: Cleaned up the wording a bit and rewrote some sections
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[[File:LuigiJab3SSBM.gif|thumb|330px|Hitbox visualization showing Luigi's third jab.]] | [[File:LuigiJab3SSBM.gif|thumb|330px|Hitbox visualization showing Luigi's third jab.]] | ||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
Similar to Captain Falcon's [[Captain Falcon (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 3|jab 3]], Luigi lunges his lower body forward, doing a hip check on the opponent. Between the two moves, Luigi's has less than half the active frames, but a ''much'' shorter [[Lag#End lag|recovery]]; in addition, it has one hitbox, as opposed to Falcon's, which has an early hit and late hit. It is generally considered to be weaker, but much less risky, since the Luigi player doesn't have to worry about unintentionally activating a [[Neutral attack#Infinite|rapid jab]]. | Similar to Captain Falcon's [[Captain Falcon (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 3|jab 3]], Luigi lunges his lower body forward, doing a hip check on the opponent. Between the two moves, Luigi's has less than half the active frames, but a ''much'' shorter [[Lag#End lag|recovery]]; in addition, it has one hitbox, as opposed to Falcon's, which has an early hit and late hit. It is generally considered to be weaker, but much less risky, since the Luigi player doesn't have to worry about unintentionally activating a [[Neutral attack#Infinite|rapid jab]], as well as the fact that it can be done from a [[wavedash]]. | ||
The move sees occasional use in tournament play. It can be used to cover Luigi after performing an unsafe [[Luigi (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 1|jab 1]] or [[Luigi (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 2|jab 2]] against a [[Crouch cancel|crouching]] or [[Shield|shielding]] opponent; in these instances, the best scenario is to hit the opponent as they're attempting to [[Punishment|punish]] the unsafe jabs. It's generally more rewarding than hitting the opponent with just | The move sees occasional use in tournament play. It can be used to cover Luigi after performing an unsafe [[Luigi (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 1|jab 1]] or [[Luigi (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 2|jab 2]] against a [[Crouch cancel|crouching]] or [[Shield|shielding]] opponent; in these instances, the best scenario is to hit the opponent as they're attempting to [[Punishment|punish]] the unsafe jabs. It's generally more rewarding than hitting the opponent with just jab 1, as it deals more damage and has [[Knockback|scaling knockback]], being able to [[tumbling|tumble]] [[Fox (SSBM)|Fox]] at 88%. This comes at the cost of being much more telegraphed, as the entire move lasts 22 frames (well-within the timeframe of humans' reaction time), and ''must'' be preceded by jab 1 & 2; at low-mid percents (greater than 27% on Fox), it deals enough [[hitstun]] to be positive on hit, although this can still lose to [[crouch cancel]]ing and [[Smash_directional_influence#Automatic_smash_directional_influence|ASDI-down]]. At higher percents, when it begins to tumble the opponent, it becomes much more safe to throw out, and generally becomes very rewarding as it can lead to a [[Tech-chasing|tech chase]]. | ||
The move also sees use niche use in [[edgeguarding]]. Generally, Luigi wants to use his powerful aerials, like [[Luigi (SSBM)/Forward aerial|forward air]] or [[Luigi (SSBM)/Down aerial|down air]], which are significantly stronger. However, between a 4-frame [[jumpsquat]] and the startup on his aerials, the player may not be able to react to the opponent's [[recovery]] in time if they choose a quick option, such as [[Falco (SSBM)/Side special|Falco's Phantasm]], a move with an 18-frame startup, which is ''just barely'' within a human's reaction time. If the Falco attempts to recover to stage using Phantasm, the Luigi can react, hitting him with jab 1 (Luigi's fastest move) before following up with jab 2 & 3 to prevent Falco from grabbing the ledge, knocking him away & resetting the situation. | |||
==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
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!Hitboxes | !Hitboxes | ||
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!Animation length | !Animation length | ||
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{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c= | {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=8}} | ||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y}} | {{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y}} | ||
==Similar moves== | |||
*[[Mario (SSBM)/Neutral attack/Hit 3]] | |||
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[[Category:Luigi (SSBM)]] | [[Category:Luigi (SSBM)]] | ||
[[Category:Neutral attacks (SSBM)]] | [[Category:Neutral attacks (SSBM)]] | ||