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The nail in the coffin in Doug Bowser's viability, however, is his complete inability to handle [[gameplay modification]]s. Simply enabling or even mentioning [[UCF]] while Doug Bowser is selected at the character select screen will turn Bowser into a garbled mess of pixels, which will give his opponent the win by default and subsequently softlock the game on the results screen. As a result of this game-breaking glitch, Doug Bowser was universally banned by the official ''Melee'' Competition Committee (consisting of reputed smashers such as {{Sm|TheCrimsonBlur}}), making him the first and only character in ''Smash'' history to be barred from competitive play while simultaneously being the worst character in the game. | The nail in the coffin in Doug Bowser's viability, however, is his complete inability to handle [[gameplay modification]]s. Simply enabling or even mentioning [[UCF]] while Doug Bowser is selected at the character select screen will turn Bowser into a garbled mess of pixels, which will give his opponent the win by default and subsequently softlock the game on the results screen. As a result of this game-breaking glitch, Doug Bowser was universally banned by the official ''Melee'' Competition Committee (consisting of reputed smashers such as {{Sm|TheCrimsonBlur}}), making him the first and only character in ''Smash'' history to be barred from competitive play while simultaneously being the worst character in the game. | ||
==Attributes== | |||
Doug Bowser acts as the game's primary "slow and weak" fighter; other equally slow characters, such as {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} and {{SSBM|Ganondorf}}, actually have some semblance of viability. Bowser's movement options are average at best and abysmal at worst, with an average dashing speed, poor air speed, the slowest walking speed, the slowest jump in the game (an 8-frame jump squat) and a mediocre wavedash (that is also among the slowest, if not ''the'' slowest wavedash in ''Melee''). His movement, overall, is about as effective as Nintendo of America's marketing strategies and policies. | |||
One of Bowser's greatest strengths is the raw damage output he is capable of doing to the Nintendo fandom. Many of his ceases and desists are the strongest of their type, and their damage output can reach perhaps ludicrous levels; his unwarranted cancellation of [[The Big House Online]], for instance, dealt 999%, and his denouncing of [[Project Slippi]] is the second most misguided attempt to protect copyright in the video game industry, dealing a potential 6,666% to the minds of mindless Nintendo defenders. As a result of this high damage output, Bowser's KOing options against his own fans are possibly the most deadly of all time. | |||
Once his ceases and desists have been taken out of the picture, however, Doug Bowser has a surprisingly low amount of tricks that can be used to aggravate opponents within ''Melee'' itself. Bowser's only move takes form as his up special move, [[Whirling Fortress]]. To Bowser's credit, it is a decent move, being able to deal a respectable amount of damage and serve as a combo breaker due to its low startup. Bowser's over-reliance on Whirling Fortress, however, as well as Whirling Fortress [[out of shield]], makes him very predictable and liable to being shut down by any other character. | |||
Doug Bowser's poor neutral game is exacerbated by poor defensive options; his only option is the aforementioned Whirling Fortress, and all of his other defensive options are among the worst in all fighting games. With a small shield that invites shield stabbing, as well as slow defensive rolls and sidesteps, Bowser has very few ways to escape pressure inflicted onto him. He also has no options against negative social media PR, due to his massive complacency and lack of effective practices towards video game consumers. | |||
While Doug Bowser does have high endurance potential due to being the heaviest character in the game, it is merely abysmal overall; his terrible mobility, combined with his very large hurtbox and his high weight, makes him, by far, the easiest character in the game to [[combo]], allowing him to be put into KO percentages very quickly. Faster characters, including {{SSBM|Pikachu}}, {{SSBM|Yoshi}}, and the entirety of ''Melee''{{'}}s top tier can easily combo, [[juggle]], and [[chain grab]] him until percentages as high as 999%, with very little chance for Doug Bowser to escape. His slow, predictable, and easily gimped recovery also hampers his survivability; despite Whirling Fortress being a good out of shield move, it is very poor as a recovery move, granting a decent horizontal boost but terrible vertical distance. This makes [[meteor smash]]es and [[spike]]s extremely dangerous to Doug Bowser, as characters with reliable spikes (such as {{SSBM|Falco}} and {{SSBM|Marth}}) can instantly gimp his recovery, even in [[Stamina Mode]]. Doug Bowser's recovery is further hampered by his poor air speed and his lack of alternate options to recover or ways to slow down his falling speed; as a result, Doug Bowser is very simple to edgeguard. | |||
Doug Bowser's lack of moves gives him a near-nonexistent combo game; his combos are limited to 0 or 1 hits even if the opponent [[DI]]s poorly, with the last hit often not being one that can lead to a KO. Bowser's slow speed on both the ground and in the air also prevent him from easily pursuing foes after they have been knocked back, leading to opponents easily recovering from hits and being able to counter Bowser's further attempts at comboing. This makes Bowser's punishes highly inconsistent, even at the lowest levels of play. | |||
Overall, Doug Bowser is a very deficient character with no advantages and several crippling weaknesses. His ceases and desists are masked by his horrible neutral game, and his survivability is greatly offset by his poor defensive game and ease of being comboed. He also lacks safe moves, with Whirling Fortress often being the only move in his entire arsenal, making him very limiting on players. As such, he rarely sees representation in all levels of play, due to the multitude of hard reads that Doug Bowser players must land to even hold equal footing with other characters in the cast. | |||
==In [[competitive play]]== | |||
===Notable players=== | |||
:''See also: [[:Category:Bowser professionals (SSBM)]]'' | |||
====Active==== | |||
*{{Sm|Doug Bowser|USA}} - Doug Bowser | |||
====Inactive==== | |||
*{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:62-bit Hero|62-bit Doug]] - Formerly known as Dougyfish. One of the best Doug Bowser players of all time, and one of the very few to reach notable success with him. Primary innovator of the character and a well-respected figurehead on [[Smashboards]]. Returned to the community through Netplay upon the release of [[Project Slippi]], after which he got swiftly C&D'ed by the real Doug Bowser. | |||
*{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:Arash|Dougrash]] | |||
*{{Flag|Australia}} [[Smasher:CAOTIC|DOUGOTIC]] - One of the original Bowser players. According to [[the Smash Brothers]] documentary, he was formerly one of {{Sm|Ken}}'s practice partners before being C&D'ed for featuring in the documentary. | |||
*{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:Gojira|Dougjira]] | |||
*{{Flag|Canada}} [[Smasher:MagnuM|DougnuD]] | |||
*{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:Stockholm Syndrome|Stockholm Syndrome for Nintendo of America]] - Placed 17th at [[CEO 2018]] with Bowser as one of his characters, while also taking a game off of {{Sm|SmashBob SquarePants}}. | |||
*{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:WarriorKnight|WarriorDoug]] - Placed 49th at [[CEO 2016]]. | |||
===Tier placement and history=== | |||
Since the beginning of the metagame, Doug Bowser has always been a bottom-tiered character, ranking at or near the bottom on many revisions, due to his negative attributes and his pitiful [[matchup]]s against top/high tier characters, which has led to very poor tournament results overall. Even with the innovations of dedicated Doug Bowser professionals such as {{Sm|Doug Bowser}}, who propelled Doug Bowser to a level of play that many rarely ever saw before, Doug Bowser players simply could not reach the ceases and desists needed to be considered as a relevant threat in the top-level environment. Currently, Doug Bowser is last on the tier list and is ranked in the F tier in 26th place. He has negligible representation in tournaments outside of situational matches where he is counterpicked against players unfamiliar with the matchup (e.g. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ Doug Bowser v.s. Hungrybox at Nintendo NY, 2016]) and is considered non-viable for serious play. | |||
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Revision as of 20:30, March 31, 2021
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Kirby (SSBM)
Kirby in Super Smash Bros. Melee | |
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Universe | Kirby |
Other playable appearances | in SSB in Brawl in SSB4 in Ultimate |
Availability | Starter |
Tier | F (25) (North America) H (25) (Europe) |
Announced at E3 2001, the Kirby of Disappointment (失望のカービィ, Kirby of Disappointment) is not a viable character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Makiko Ōmoto once again voices Kirby in Melee, with some voice clips recycled from SSB, but more higher pitched, along with some new additional voice clips, most notably his hurt voice clips which will occur in gameplay very frequently.
Currently, the Kirby of Disappointment is ranked 25th in the F tier and H tier in NTSC and PAL respectively (which stands for F***ing Horrible), as the second-worst character in all of fighting game history. It is rumored that the only reason Kirby players ever play the character is that their opponents would have to stare at the Kirby of Disappointment for the whole minute that it takes them to JV5-stock the Kirby player, which can be highly demoralizing and possibly tilt the opponent for the rest of the tournament. This is, unfortunately, the only tilt you will be hitting your opponent with when you play Kirby. Poor range, slow attacks, and a low air speed ensure that the Kirby of Disappointment will never be able to participate in the neutral game, causing him to automatically lose games to infamous players such as unranked Falcos on Project Slippi.
But all of this aside, to be perfectly fair, the Kirby of Disappointment does have some notable advantages, those being that it only loses to Peach 10:90 instead of 0:100 like Bowser does, and... yeah we got nothing. Just like the tournament results that Kirby players have.
The Kirby of Disappointment has one of the worst matchup spreads in the game, with only two positive matchups against Bowser and Roy, according to meticulous labbing of both matchups and analysis of the character's many tournament results, gathered by all 2 top Melee Kirby players in 2010, although these are very frequently debated at length by top players. To the credit of the Kirby of Disappointment, in the modern metagame, he still has two very clear-cut positive matchups, those being against TheCrimsonBlur and a drunken Armada. Aside from this very respected niche, the Kirby of Disappointment has no place in the metagame.
Roy (SSBM)
Roy in Super Smash Bros. Melee | |
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Universe | Fire Emblem |
Other playable appearances | in SSB4 in Ultimate |
Availability | Unlockable |
Tier | D (21) (North America) G (22) (Europe) |
Roy (ロイ, Roy) is a unlockable character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. He is a clone of Marth, differentiated primarily by being a complete and utter garbage character. He is voiced by Jun Fukuyama.
He is well-known for being one of the few low-tiered characters to not keel over and die at the mere sight of Fox, Falco, and other fastfallers, having somewhat of a fighting chance against them. That is among Roy's only solaces as he takes his uncontested title of "Melee's #1 Boy" all the way down to the D tier of the Melee tier list, at #21 because that's how many times he has to win the neutral game to KO his opponent. He has almost no redeeming qualities, with Roy's rare ridiculous reach being readily offset by the rueful raw power of his ranged hitboxes, resulting in Roy being royally ravaged by the remainder of the cast, then relegated to rotting offstage as they ruin his rocky recovery. Roy players also cannot do anything against floaty characters, since none of the hitboxes that he can actually hit floaties with can KO even at 999%. Roy professionals agree that the optimal line of play in those matchups is to put down the controller and cry while reevaluating your life choices that you chose to play such a miserable character competitively in a 20-year old party game.
All in all, Roy is a terrible character, and you would have to be inzain to ever consider using him in any domain with competent Melee players. He is overall a character that should never be tested in modern competitive play.
All of this being said, Roy is an excellent pick on Great Bay, being able to act as an effective lifeguard with his access to the highest quality pool noodles known to the Nintendo universe.
Bowser (SSBM)
Bowser in Super Smash Bros. Melee | |
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Universe | Mario |
Other playable appearances | in Brawl in SSB4 in Ultimate |
Availability | Starter |
Tier | C&D (26) (North America) H (24) (Europe) |
Doug Bowser (ダグ・クッパ, Doug Koopa), is a "character" in Super Smash Bros. Melee from the Nintendo universe, and is available from the start. Announced at E3 2001, a stronger form of Doug Bowser (a gargantuan, powered-up version of said character) from the Super Smash Bros. universe (despite the fact that Bowser is a character from Nintendo as Giga Bowser did not appear in any Nintendo business deals) also appears as the "final" "boss" in Adventure. Doug Bowser was added to the game because he won the official poll of desired newcomers for a potential second Smash game with 42,069 votes, by a wide margin over the runner-up, Reggie Fils-Aime.
Doug Bowser has no voice actor, but uses realistic roars, similarly to his sounds in Mario Kart 64.
Doug Bowser is currently ranked 26th in the current Melee tier list, as the sole character in the C&D tier. This makes him the lowest ranked character in the game as well as being his worst placement in the series. This tier is aptly named for Bowser's ability to prevent opponents from facing him at all in a tournament setting, as they will be swiftly sent a cease and desist notice which will give Bowser the win by default. However, once his opponent breaks these defenses, they will find that Bowser has incredible difficulty defending himself. This is because he has the dubious distinction of being the only character in Melee with only two moves, those being Whirling Fortress and Whirling Fortress out of shield, which makes him highly predictable and ineffective in combat. Doug Bowser also suffers due to his large size and falling speed, sluggish moves, terrible jumping and overall approaching ability, and most notably, his complete lack of tech skill, besides obscure techniques such as the Koopabackdashwaveslide Hoverwalkmoonland.
The nail in the coffin in Doug Bowser's viability, however, is his complete inability to handle gameplay modifications. Simply enabling or even mentioning UCF while Doug Bowser is selected at the character select screen will turn Bowser into a garbled mess of pixels, which will give his opponent the win by default and subsequently softlock the game on the results screen. As a result of this game-breaking glitch, Doug Bowser was universally banned by the official Melee Competition Committee (consisting of reputed smashers such as TheCrimsonBlur), making him the first and only character in Smash history to be barred from competitive play while simultaneously being the worst character in the game.
Attributes
Doug Bowser acts as the game's primary "slow and weak" fighter; other equally slow characters, such as Donkey Kong and Ganondorf, actually have some semblance of viability. Bowser's movement options are average at best and abysmal at worst, with an average dashing speed, poor air speed, the slowest walking speed, the slowest jump in the game (an 8-frame jump squat) and a mediocre wavedash (that is also among the slowest, if not the slowest wavedash in Melee). His movement, overall, is about as effective as Nintendo of America's marketing strategies and policies.
One of Bowser's greatest strengths is the raw damage output he is capable of doing to the Nintendo fandom. Many of his ceases and desists are the strongest of their type, and their damage output can reach perhaps ludicrous levels; his unwarranted cancellation of The Big House Online, for instance, dealt 999%, and his denouncing of Project Slippi is the second most misguided attempt to protect copyright in the video game industry, dealing a potential 6,666% to the minds of mindless Nintendo defenders. As a result of this high damage output, Bowser's KOing options against his own fans are possibly the most deadly of all time.
Once his ceases and desists have been taken out of the picture, however, Doug Bowser has a surprisingly low amount of tricks that can be used to aggravate opponents within Melee itself. Bowser's only move takes form as his up special move, Whirling Fortress. To Bowser's credit, it is a decent move, being able to deal a respectable amount of damage and serve as a combo breaker due to its low startup. Bowser's over-reliance on Whirling Fortress, however, as well as Whirling Fortress out of shield, makes him very predictable and liable to being shut down by any other character.
Doug Bowser's poor neutral game is exacerbated by poor defensive options; his only option is the aforementioned Whirling Fortress, and all of his other defensive options are among the worst in all fighting games. With a small shield that invites shield stabbing, as well as slow defensive rolls and sidesteps, Bowser has very few ways to escape pressure inflicted onto him. He also has no options against negative social media PR, due to his massive complacency and lack of effective practices towards video game consumers.
While Doug Bowser does have high endurance potential due to being the heaviest character in the game, it is merely abysmal overall; his terrible mobility, combined with his very large hurtbox and his high weight, makes him, by far, the easiest character in the game to combo, allowing him to be put into KO percentages very quickly. Faster characters, including Pikachu, Yoshi, and the entirety of Melee's top tier can easily combo, juggle, and chain grab him until percentages as high as 999%, with very little chance for Doug Bowser to escape. His slow, predictable, and easily gimped recovery also hampers his survivability; despite Whirling Fortress being a good out of shield move, it is very poor as a recovery move, granting a decent horizontal boost but terrible vertical distance. This makes meteor smashes and spikes extremely dangerous to Doug Bowser, as characters with reliable spikes (such as Falco and Marth) can instantly gimp his recovery, even in Stamina Mode. Doug Bowser's recovery is further hampered by his poor air speed and his lack of alternate options to recover or ways to slow down his falling speed; as a result, Doug Bowser is very simple to edgeguard.
Doug Bowser's lack of moves gives him a near-nonexistent combo game; his combos are limited to 0 or 1 hits even if the opponent DIs poorly, with the last hit often not being one that can lead to a KO. Bowser's slow speed on both the ground and in the air also prevent him from easily pursuing foes after they have been knocked back, leading to opponents easily recovering from hits and being able to counter Bowser's further attempts at comboing. This makes Bowser's punishes highly inconsistent, even at the lowest levels of play.
Overall, Doug Bowser is a very deficient character with no advantages and several crippling weaknesses. His ceases and desists are masked by his horrible neutral game, and his survivability is greatly offset by his poor defensive game and ease of being comboed. He also lacks safe moves, with Whirling Fortress often being the only move in his entire arsenal, making him very limiting on players. As such, he rarely sees representation in all levels of play, due to the multitude of hard reads that Doug Bowser players must land to even hold equal footing with other characters in the cast.
In competitive play
Notable players
- See also: Category:Bowser professionals (SSBM)
Active
- Doug Bowser - Doug Bowser
Inactive
- 62-bit Doug - Formerly known as Dougyfish. One of the best Doug Bowser players of all time, and one of the very few to reach notable success with him. Primary innovator of the character and a well-respected figurehead on Smashboards. Returned to the community through Netplay upon the release of Project Slippi, after which he got swiftly C&D'ed by the real Doug Bowser.
- Dougrash
- DOUGOTIC - One of the original Bowser players. According to the Smash Brothers documentary, he was formerly one of Ken's practice partners before being C&D'ed for featuring in the documentary.
- Dougjira
- DougnuD
- Stockholm Syndrome for Nintendo of America - Placed 17th at CEO 2018 with Bowser as one of his characters, while also taking a game off of SmashBob SquarePants.
- WarriorDoug - Placed 49th at CEO 2016.
Tier placement and history
Since the beginning of the metagame, Doug Bowser has always been a bottom-tiered character, ranking at or near the bottom on many revisions, due to his negative attributes and his pitiful matchups against top/high tier characters, which has led to very poor tournament results overall. Even with the innovations of dedicated Doug Bowser professionals such as Doug Bowser, who propelled Doug Bowser to a level of play that many rarely ever saw before, Doug Bowser players simply could not reach the ceases and desists needed to be considered as a relevant threat in the top-level environment. Currently, Doug Bowser is last on the tier list and is ranked in the F tier in 26th place. He has negligible representation in tournaments outside of situational matches where he is counterpicked against players unfamiliar with the matchup (e.g. Doug Bowser v.s. Hungrybox at Nintendo NY, 2016) and is considered non-viable for serious play.
Young Link (SSBM)
Young Link in Super Smash Bros. Melee | |
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Universe | The Legend of Zelda |
Other playable appearance | in Ultimate |
Availability | Unlockable |
Tier | C- (17) (North America) F (18) (Europe) |
Young Link (こどもリンク, Child Link) is a character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. He is a direct clone of Link, except younger. Young Link was replaced with Young Link in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Young Link is voiced by Fujiko Takimoto, who previously voiced him in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and its sequel, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, with her voice clips of the character sampled directly from those two games.
He ranks 17th on the tier list in the C- tier, one place higher than Link. Young Link certainly has the tools to assist him in succeeding in tournament play. He steals many of adult Link's positive traits, such as his low lag aerials, a great SHFFL, and a good wavedash, making those traits more viable due to his greater speed and mobility. His access to three projectiles allows him to essentially create a wall of rainbow hitboxes that can prevent floaty opponents from approaching if correctly timed, especially on stages such as Final Destination. Young Link is also a potent punisher due to these abilities, being able to stage combos and edgeguards in creative and nearly computer-precise ways if mastered correctly. His speed and projectiles also allows him to camp opponents if needed, being able to run down the timer against slower characters in the same way every single game.
However, Young Link's primary flaw is that he has trouble KOing. Compared to the top-tiered characters, he lacks an efficient quick KO move such as Captain Falcon's Knee Smash. He has difficulty in hitting cleanly with his smash attacks (except his down smash), particularly with his up smash, which sometimes does not connect properly. Additionally, like Link, Young Link has a slow and predictable recovery, though his ability to wall jump, bomb jump and use his hookshot gives him some options. These properties lead Young Link to have poor matchups against several top tiers such as Falco, Sheik, and the clearly overpowered Fox, and make him a poor time investment overall. He is too inconsistent for the effort put in for the reward he gives, with solo Young Link professionals rarely being able to place in the money at a regional level, even after as much as 600 hours of dedicated Young Link gameplay. Thus, he is often relegated to secondary status, only to be used as a counterpick to characters like Jigglypuff that resemble honeybuns.
B button
(thumb: The My B button in Super Smash Bros. Melee)
The My B button is either the large, green button on the Nintendo 64 controller, the small, red button on the Nintendo GameCube controller, the rectangular trigger button on the back of the Wii remote, the clear button towards the bottom right of the Classic Controller, the varyingly-colored circular button on the Wii U GamePad, Wii U Pro Controller and Nintendo 3DS, the bottom dark gray face button on the Nintendo Switch's right Joy-Con and Pro Controller, or the face of top player Chillindude829 at Apex 2015. It is used, by themselves or in conjunction with any direction on the control stick, to activate special moves in Super Smash Bros., Super Smash Bros Melee, Super Smash Bros. 4 and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
It is also used in Super Smash Bros. Melee by players, by itself or in conjunction with a 0-5 defeat, to forfeit $100 USD as well as their own rights to a character's default palette swap.
In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, controls and control settings can be changed. By default, though, when using the Nunchuk, Classic, or GameCube control schemes, the B button activates special moves as well. With the Wii Remote alone though, the 1 Button acts as its B button, performing special moves, whereas the actual B button is used to shield the character with default controls. It also appears on the Wii U GamePad and Nintendo 3DS for both installations of Super Smash Bros. 4. When using Joy-Con (R) as a single Joy-Con held horizontally, the B button will become the left button, acting like a Y button and performing jumps.