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==Update history==
==Update history==
In earlier versions of the game, Luigi's down throw functioned identically to how its ''Brawl'' counterpart, which made it an incredible combo tool. It could easily combo at any percent, leading into KO confirms which worked at an extremely wide percent range. Update [[1.1.1]] however noticeably increased the throw's knockback, greatly hindering its ability to lead into KO moves. Despite this, it still has incredible combo potential at low percents and it is overall still Luigi's most useful throw.
{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]
{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]
*{{nerf|Down throw's knockback has been altered (75 base/30 growth → 55 base/83 growth). The new knockback scaling removes Luigi's most notable follow-ups (very few moves are now only semi-guaranteed KO set-ups), particularly outside of medium percents.}}
*{{nerf|Down throw has more base knockback but less knockback scaling (75 (base), 30 (scaling) → 55/83). While this does improve its followup potential at lower percents, it also removes Luigi's most notable follow-ups at higher percents (very few moves are now only semi-guaranteed KO set-ups).}}
 


==Throw data==


==Hitboxes==
{{technical data|DThrow doesn't have hitboxes, these are throw specifiers and only one is used.}}
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==Timing==
The speed of this throw depends on the opponent's [[weight]].
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{{FrameStrip|t=Invincible|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Vulnerable|c=39}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=8}}
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|rowspan=2|'''Max (Bowser)''' {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=20|e=LagThrowS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=27|s=LagThrowE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=8}}
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[[Category:Luigi (SSB4)]]
[[Category:Luigi (SSB4)]]
[[Category:Down throws (SSB4)]]
[[Category:Down throws (SSB4)]]

Revision as of 05:19, July 7, 2020

Hitbox visualization showing Luigi's down throw.
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Overview

Luigi forces his opponent on the floor and Ground Pounds them. Depending on percentage, this throw can be followed up by up tilt, any smash attack, any aerial attack, Luigi Cyclone or Super Jump Punch. It serves as Luigi's starting move for some of his most powerful KO combos.

Update history

In earlier versions of the game, Luigi's down throw functioned identically to how its Brawl counterpart, which made it an incredible combo tool. It could easily combo at any percent, leading into KO confirms which worked at an extremely wide percent range. Update 1.1.1 however noticeably increased the throw's knockback, greatly hindering its ability to lead into KO moves. Despite this, it still has incredible combo potential at low percents and it is overall still Luigi's most useful throw.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.1

  • Nerf Down throw has more base knockback but less knockback scaling (75 (base), 30 (scaling) → 55/83). While this does improve its followup potential at lower percents, it also removes Luigi's most notable follow-ups at higher percents (very few moves are now only semi-guaranteed KO set-ups).


Throw data

ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone FFx Type Effect Sound
0 6% AngleIcon80.png Forwards 55 83 0 0 1.0x Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S None
1 3% Sakurai angle Forwards 40 100 0 0 None Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S None

Timing

The speed of this throw depends on the opponent's weight.

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Invincible 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8 1-8
Throw 14.93 15.5 15.6 15.79 15.98 16.08 16.17 16.27 16.46 16.56 16.94 17.04 17.14 17.33 17.42 17.52 17.62 17.71 17.81 17.9 18 18.19 18.29 18.38 18.58 18.67 18.77 19.25 19.54 19.83 20.11 20.88
Interruptible 33.77 35.12 35.35 35.8 36.25 36.48 36.7 36.93 37.38 37.61 38.51 38.74 38.97 39.42 39.64 39.87 40.1 40.32 40.55 40.77 41 41.45 41.68 41.9 42.36 42.58 42.81 43.94 44.62 45.3 45.97 47.78
Animation length 38.68 40.24 40.5 41.02 41.54 41.8 42.06 42.32 42.84 43.1 44.14 44.4 44.66 45.18 45.44 45.7 45.96 46.22 46.48 46.74 47 47.52 47.78 48.04 48.56 48.82 49.08 50.38 51.16 51.94 52.72 54.8
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Lag
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Vulnerable		 Invincibility
Invincible		 ThrowThrow
Throw point		 Interruptibility
Interruptible


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