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:Feel free. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 21:01, 11 December 2017 (EST)
:Feel free. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 21:01, 11 December 2017 (EST)
::I'm fairly sure they only meant for those "ties" to matter when comparing placement differences between tier lists, not for rankings in the actual list itself. Otherwise it would have been made more evident that ties existed. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 21:42, 11 December 2017 (EST)
::I'm fairly sure they only meant for those "ties" to matter when comparing placement differences between tier lists, not for rankings in the actual list itself. Otherwise it would have been made more evident that ties existed. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 21:42, 11 December 2017 (EST)
==More compact fourth tier list==
Here is a more compact fourth tier list. The upside is that it is shorter and has much less blank area, making it look neater. The downside is that it's wide and loses the distinction that the first row was top tier, second was high tier, third was mid tier, and fourth was low tier, but those groupings were subjective on the fourth tier list anyway. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 19:25, 12 December 2017 (EST)
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Revision as of 19:25, December 12, 2017

Can we find a less messily wide layout for this? I was thinking a 13-column layout would be a good layout for the first few tiers, but it's messier for the lower tiers... Miles (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2017 (EST)

17 wide, Parentheses equal fillers
S and A: (2) + 4 + (1) + 8 + (2)
B: (3) + 11 + (3)
C: (3) + 11 + (3)
D and E: 6 + 11
F: (5) + 7 + (5)
Try that? Miles (talk) 23:31, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Funny, that's the same layout I had in mind. I just didn't know how to put it in. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 23:34, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Sounds good in theory. Let's see what it looks like. Serpent SKSig.png King 23:36, 1 March 2017 (EST)
[1] Serpent SKSig.png King 23:59, 1 March 2017 (EST)
I am unsure. Idk about anyone else, but I think it looks a little awkward. Not sure if there is any avoiding that though. Serpent SKSig.png King 00:03, 2 March 2017 (EST)
It is a little awkward, but I don't see a better approach at the moment. The large size of the B, C, and E tiers sets a hard minimum of 11 wide, and >20 is definitely undesirably wide. This'll work. Miles (talk) 01:54, 2 March 2017 (EST)

Ties

The SmashBoards article for the fourth tier list says:

"For the sake of placement differences between lists, we have given tied spots to characters whose average scores differed by less than 0.1."

This template needs to be changed to match the tier list. -- EthanEthan7sig.png(Discussion) 20:59, 11 December 2017 (EST)

Feel free. Serpent SKSig.png King 21:01, 11 December 2017 (EST)
I'm fairly sure they only meant for those "ties" to matter when comparing placement differences between tier lists, not for rankings in the actual list itself. Otherwise it would have been made more evident that ties existed. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Brazen 21:42, 11 December 2017 (EST)

More compact fourth tier list

Here is a more compact fourth tier list. The upside is that it is shorter and has much less blank area, making it look neater. The downside is that it's wide and loses the distinction that the first row was top tier, second was high tier, third was mid tier, and fourth was low tier, but those groupings were subjective on the fourth tier list anyway. --Meester Tweester (talk) 19:25, 12 December 2017 (EST)

Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List [1.1.7]
S A B
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Bayonetta (SSB4) Cloud (SSB4) Diddy Kong (SSB4) Sheik (SSB4) Rosalina (SSB4) Zero Suit Samus (SSB4) Fox (SSB4) Sonic (SSB4) Mario (SSB4) Mewtwo (SSB4) Marth (SSB4) Ryu (SSB4) Corrin (SSB4) Lucina (SSB4) Pikachu (SSB4) Meta Knight (SSB4) Lucario (SSB4) Luigi (SSB4) Captain Falcon (SSB4) Peach (SSB4)
1.19 2.49 2.51 4.68 5.99 6.46 6.56 6.6 9.81 10.38 11.54 11.61 13.29 14.39 17.37 17.97 18.41 19.07 19.25 20.14
C D
21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 30 31 32-33 34 35 36 37
Olimar (SSB4) Donkey Kong (SSB4) Toon Link (SSB4) Bowser (SSB4) Villager (SSB4) Greninja (SSB4) Mega Man (SSB4) Ness (SSB4) Lucas (SSB4) Duck Hunt (SSB4) Link (SSB4) Pit (SSB4) Dark Pit (SSB4) Yoshi (SSB4) Shulk (SSB4) R.O.B. (SSB4) Robin (SSB4) Samus (SSB4)
20.68 20.82 23.31 23.73 24.85 24.96 25.89 28.62 28.64 31.59 32.11 32.27 32.96 33.21 34.59 35.11 35.13
E F G Unranked
39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 55
Mr. Game & Watch (SSB4) Ike (SSB4) Wario (SSB4) Roy (SSB4) Charizard (SSB4) Little Mac (SSB4) Palutena (SSB4) Pac-Man (SSB4) Falco (SSB4) Bowser Jr. (SSB4) Dr. Mario (SSB4) Kirby (SSB4) Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4) King Dedede (SSB4) Ganondorf (SSB4) Zelda (SSB4) Jigglypuff (SSB4) Mii Brawler (SSB4) Mii Swordfighter (SSB4) Mii Gunner (SSB4)
37.95 38.58 39.12 39.66 41.95 43.43 43.96 45.43 45.65 47.01 47.64 48.86 49.32 49.59 51.21 51.22 53.47