User talk:Alex the weeb/Archive 1

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Disaster Flare (talk) 13:16, 16 December 2016 (EST)

Redirects

Okay, before you continue, while it's nice to see you trying to make finding articles more convenient, the redirects you're making are completely unnecessary, as it's not hard to search for "character (SSB4)". Plus, the redirects just look really unprofessional, honestly. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)

The redirects are not just for us, but for random people who visit the site and cannot be bothered to (or do not think to) type in Mario (SSB4) and instead type mario ssb4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Parpotta (talk • contribs) 21:40, 13 January 2017‎ (EST)

As I said on my talk page, literally the first article that pops up in the suggested results after searching for something like "mario ssb4" will be the proper article. Because of that, there is no need for the redirects at all. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:42, 13 January 2017 (EST)

Tech data pages

It's nice that you're making technical data pages, but you're leaving them woefully incomplete. Take Mario (SSB4)/Down special/Default: it has the hitbox, sure, but it's missing the projectile data, the timing data, the overview section, and even the navigation template. (You didn't even use the correct hitbox template, so it's missing reflection/absorption data and whatnot.) Compare with Fox (SSBM)/Neutral special, which has almost everything it needs.

You should do one (if not both) of these two things:

1. Leave {{competitive expertise}} and {{technical data}} tags on the page so it can be known through the category system that it's incomplete.
2. Don't make new pages if you can't do them justice. It's better for an expert to see a redlink and know "this needs doing" than to see a bluelink to almost nothing and think "I should do something else".

Toomai Glittershine The Brass 06:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

The F.L.U.D.D page was kind of a one off. I was mainly creating custom move pages (since no one seems to care about them). I could do the timing sections too, but it would take MUCH longer. I have a question about that though, what do i do about frame speed multipliers, do i put in the raw frame data and state the frame speed multiplier, or put in the modified frame data? Alex Parpotta (talk) 06:52, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

Well I mean people don't care about customs in general so tech data for them deserves a lower priority in my mind.

When dealing with frame speed multipliers, I would recommend using the final post-calculated numbers in cases where the speed is fixed and doesn't change (maybe with ah HTML comment noting the raw numbers, in case people want to check your math), while if it does change (e.g. special moves that animate faster when more charged or something) you'd probably include slowest, fastest, and typical/default. Toomai Glittershine The Sphere 07:18, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

Is this better? Alex Parpotta (talk) 08:29, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

"DiddyKong"

That redirect is not actually a requirement. You can type "Diddy Kong" with a space in the head template and it will work; "DiddyKong (SSB4)" only showed up in wanted pages because of people incorrectly omitting the space, perhaps having assumed that would be the required format for a template. Having said that, you'll have noticed that "DiddyKong" still produces Diddy's head whether the linked page exists or not, which lead to very non-obvious broken links. So that's a potential argument for keeping the redirect. Zyrac(talk•contribs) 06:30, 30 May 2017 (EDT)

The reason I think it is necessary is because so many pages use the diddy kong head icon as DiddyKong that it would be a nightmare to change all of them, and it is just easier (and possibly even less byte consuming, since redirect pages take up very little byte space, and adding that extra space in all of the head templates may take up more space) to have the redirect instead. Alex Parpotta (talk) 06:34, 30 May 2017 (EDT)