Weight

"Light" redirects here. For the smasher, see Smasher:Light.

Mario's back throw speed differs depending on the weight of the character being thrown

Weight is a measurement of how much a character can resist knockback. Weight is one of several factors used in calculating the amount of knockback a character experiences. Characters with a higher weight (heavy) tend to suffer less knockback, and characters with a lower weight (light) tend to suffer more knockback, all other factors controlled.

Overview

Weight is in practice understood as how difficult it is to send a character flying away. In this sense, it is usually considered an advantage for a character to be heavy, as less knockback makes it more difficult to KO a character. Additionally, many throws take longer to execute on heavier characters, giving the opponent more time to properly react to throws and DI effectively. Because throwing heavier characters causes the throwing animation to continue longer once the target is let go, the viability of throw combos may be affected; for example, Mr. Game & Watch's down throw-to-down smash combo isn't guaranteed on heavier characters who don't tech the throw, the Ice Climbers's infinite chain grabs are more difficult to perform on heavyweights, and in Melee, Captain Falcon is not vulnerable to many of the up throw chain throws (such as from Marth) that the space animals are vulnerable to despite having equivalent falling speed.

Lighter characters have a few advantages. Weight-sensitive platforms such as those in Mushroom Kingdom and Rainbow Cruise fall slower while holding less weight, making them safer to use for lighter characters. Many combos are less effective on lighter characters because their higher received knockback makes it easier to escape - these combos include some of Fox's waveshine combos in Melee and King Dedede's chaingrab in Brawl, where characters below a certain weight usually receive enough knockback to escape. Finally, certain weight-based throws have hitboxes that appear for very short lengths of time, and if the target is very light, the animation may progress so quickly that the hitbox appears and vanishes in less than a frame without hitting -- this causes the lightest characters to take less damage, notably with Bowser's down throw in NTSC Melee and Link's down throw in Brawl, both of which miss their pre-throw hit on Jigglypuff.

Heavier characters tend to have stronger attacks, longer range, worse recovery, bigger hurtboxes, higher falling speed, and slower movement, while lighter characters tend to have weaker attacks, shorter range, better recovery, smaller hurtboxes, slower falling speed, and faster movement. However, this is a very loose correlation that many characters defy in some way - Captain Falcon is heavy but dashes incredibly fast, Samus is heavy but slow-falling, Yoshi is heavy but rather weak for his weight, Wario is heavy but short and highly maneuverable, Zelda is light-medium with slow and strong attacks, and Falco is light with a very high falling speed and lackluster vertical recovery.

In single player modes, sometimes unnaturally high weight is introduced to challenge the player, such as when fighting Metal Mario; this is often paired with additional flinch resistance, since even characters with infinite weight will still take knockback from any attack with a base knockback greater than 0.

Super Smash Bros. weight values

These values use a different scale than the later games - heavier characters have lower numbers, representing a direct multiplier in the knockback formula. For comparison purposes, the equivalent value in the newer system is also listed.[1]

JPN Rank Character Weight (coded) Weight (comparison) 1 Donkey Kong 0.84 138.095 2 Samus 0.92 117.391 3 Yoshi 0.93 115.054 4-5 Captain Falcon 0.96 108.333 4-5 Link 0.96 108.333 6-8 Fox 1 100.000 6-8 Luigi 1 100.000 6-8 Mario 1 100.000 9 Ness 1.1 81.818 10 Pikachu 1.16 72.414 11 Kirby 1.19 68.067 12 Jigglypuff 1.3 53.846

NA Rank Character Weight (coded) Weight (comparison) 1 Donkey Kong 0.83 140.964 2 Samus 0.92 117.391 3 Yoshi 0.93 115.054 4-5 Captain Falcon 0.96 108.333 4-5 Link 0.96 108.333 6-8 Fox 1 100.000 6-8 Luigi 1 100.000 6-8 Mario 1 100.000 9 Ness 1.1 81.818 10 Pikachu 1.16 72.414 11 Kirby 1.19 68.067 12 Jigglypuff 1.3 53.846

PAL Rank Character Weight (coded) Weight (comparison) 1 Donkey Kong 0.83 140.964 2 Link 0.9 122.222 3 Samus 0.92 117.391 4 Yoshi 0.93 115.054 5 Captain Falcon 0.96 108.333 6-8 Fox 1 100.000 6-8 Luigi 1 100.000 6-8 Mario 1 100.000 9 Ness 1.1 81.818 10 Pikachu 1.16 72.414 11 Kirby 1.19 68.067 12 Jigglypuff 1.3 53.846

Super Smash Bros. Melee weight values

Following are the characters in Super Smash Bros. Melee, ranked in order of heaviest to lightest. The Metal Box multiplies a character's base weight by 3, the Super Mushroom by 1.6, and the Poison Mushroom by 0.625.

NTSC Rank Character Weight n/a Giga Bowser 140 1 Bowser 117 2 Donkey Kong 114 3 Samus 110 4 Ganondorf 109 5 Yoshi 108 6-7 Captain Falcon 104 6-7 Link 104 8-10 Dr. Mario 100 8-10 Luigi 100 8-10 Mario 100 11 Ness 94 12-14 Peach 90 12-14 Sheik 90 12-14 Zelda 90 15 Ice Climbers 88 16 Marth 87 17-19 Mewtwo 85 17-19 Roy 85 17-19 Young Link 85 20-21 Falco 80 20-21 Pikachu 80 22 Fox 75 23 Kirby 70 24-25 Jigglypuff 60 24-25 Mr. Game & Watch 60 26 Pichu 55

PAL Rank Character Weight n/a Giga Bowser 140 1 Bowser 118 2 Donkey Kong 114 3 Yoshi 111 4 Samus 110 5 Ganondorf 109 6-7 Captain Falcon 104 6-7 Link 104 8-9 Dr. Mario 100 8-9 Luigi 100 10 Mario 98 11 Ness 94 12-14 Peach 90 12-14 Sheik 90 12-14 Zelda 90 15 Ice Climbers 88 16-19 Marth 85 16-19 Mewtwo 85 16-19 Roy 85 16-19 Young Link 85 20-21 Falco 80 20-21 Pikachu 80 22 Kirby 74 23 Fox 73 24-25 Jigglypuff 60 24-25 Mr. Game & Watch 60 26 Pichu 55

Super Smash Bros. Brawl weight values

This is a list of characters' weights in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Rank	Character	Weight
1	Bowser	120
2	Donkey Kong	116
3	Snake	113
4	King Dedede	112
5	Charizard	110
6	Ganondorf	109
7	Samus	108
8-9	Wario	107
8-9	Yoshi	107
10	R.O.B.	106
11	Ike	105
12-13	Captain Falcon	104
12-13	Link	104
14	Wolf	102
15-16	Ivysaur	100
15-16	Lucario	100
17	Mario	98
18	Luigi	97
19	Sonic	95
20-22	Lucas	94
20-22	Ness	94
20-22	Pit	94
23	Diddy Kong	93
24-25	Ice Climbers	92
24-25	Toon Link	92
26	Peach	90
27	Marth	87
28-29	Sheik	85
28-29	Zelda	85
30-31	Falco	82
30-31	Olimar	82
32	Zero Suit Samus	81
33	Fox	80
34-35	Meta Knight	79
34-35	Pikachu	79
36	Kirby	78
37-38	Mr. Game & Watch	75
37-38	Squirtle	75
39	Jigglypuff	68

Super Smash Bros. 4 weight values

This is a list of characters' weights in Super Smash Bros. 4.

According to the game, weight is the base factor in determining how many powers can be equipped in Smash Run. There are other factors -- namely a character's speed -- so it is not a direct linear correlation, but as a general rule weight definitely carries a positive correlation: the higher the weight, the greater the number of powers, with the only exceptions being Miis and the DLC fighters having a power limit of 25.

Additionally, certain updates have made slight alterations to the weights of characters, affecting both survivability and resistance to combos. These changes have not had a major effect on the metagame.

Rank	Character	Weight	Power Limit
n/a	Giga Bowser	400
n/a	Giga Mac	140
1	Bowser	130	29
2	Donkey Kong	122	27
3	King Dedede	119	28
4	Charizard	116	27
5	Ganondorf	113	29
6-7	Bowser Jr.	108	27
6-7	Samus	108	27
8-9	Ike	107	26
8-9	Wario	107	27
n/a	Wario-Man	107
10	R.O.B.	106	26
11-13	Captain Falcon	104	25
11-13	Link	104	26
11-13	Yoshi	104	26
14	Ryu	103	25
15-16	Mega Man	102	25
15-16	Shulk	102	25
n/a	Mii Fighter (heaviest)	102	25
n/a	Mii Fighter (default)	100	25
17	Cloud	100	25
18	Lucario	99	25
n/a	Mega Lucario	99
19-21	Corrin	98	25
19-21	Dr. Mario	98	25
19-21	Mario	98	25
22-23	Luigi	97	24
22-23	Villager	97	24
n/a	Mii Fighter (lightest)	97	25
24-26	Dark Pit	96	24
24-26	Pit	96	24
24-26	Wii Fit Trainer	96	24
27-29	Pac-Man	95	25
27-29	Robin	95	24
27-29	Roy	95	25
30-33	Greninja	94	24
30-33	Lucas	94	25
30-33	Ness	94	25
30-33	Sonic	94	23
34-35	Diddy Kong	93	24
34-35	Toon Link	93	24
36-37	Duck Hunt	91	23
36-37	Palutena	91	23
38-39	Lucina	90	23
38-39	Marth	90	23
40	Peach	89	23
41	Zelda	85	22
42	Bayonetta	84	25
43-44	Falco	82	22
43-44	Little Mac	82	23
45	Sheik	81	24
46	Zero Suit Samus	80	23
47	Meta Knight	80	22
48-51	Fox	79	24
48-51	Kirby	79	21
48-51	Olimar	79	23
48-51	Pikachu	79	23
52	Rosalina	77	22
53	Mr. Game & Watch	75	23
54	Mewtwo	74	25
55	Jigglypuff	68	21

Update history

1.1.3

• Ganondorf's weight: 112 → 113
• Kirby's weight: 77 → 79
• Sonic's weight: 95 → 94

1.1.4

• Rosalina's weight: 78 → 77
• Sheik's weight: 85 → 84
• Zero Suit Samus's weight: 81 → 80

1.1.5

• Bowser's weight: 128 → 130
• Charizard's weight: 115 → 116
• Mewtwo's weight: 72 → 74
• Sheik's weight: 84 → 81

Notes/Trivia

• According to Super Smash Bros. Melee's Blue Smash Trophy of Mario, his mass is the standard upon which other Smash fighters are measured. While this is true in NTSC Melee (having a weight of 100), the PAL version drops Mario's weight to 98, which is slightly below average. This has been carried over into future installments.
• In each game, the enemy team all have the same weight as Mario, despite each being based off characters of different weights.
  • However, one exception applies to the Female Wire Frame in Melee, who has a weight of 90. This is due to the development team copying Zelda's moveset over to the Female Wire Frame.
• In Brawl, Giga Bowser and Wario-Man are programmed to have weights of 400 and 130, respectively; however, they cannot be knocked back, so their weight only has an effect on certain stage elements (such as Rainbow Cruise's see-saw platforms).
• There are various inconsistencies in some characters' weights when compared to information from their home series:
  • Yoshi is labelled as a heavyweight (even outweighing Ganondorf and Samus in the PAL version of Melee and being on par with Wario in Brawl), despite being a lightweight or middleweight in the Mario spin off games. However, Smash Bros. may actually portray his weight accurately based on his insane eating habits in the Mario series, similar to Wario, while his status of being a fast character is shown in his air speed; that said, Yoshi being light or middleweight in the Mario spin off games may be what is inconsistent, not being a heavyweight in Smash. More recent Mario Kart titles seem to rely more on a character's height than their actual weight to determine what vehicle weight class they use, however.
  • Rosalina is labelled as a lightweight (only being heavier than Mr. Game & Watch, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff in SSB4), despite being a heavyweight in other Mario games (albeit the lightest heavyweight). However, it had been said that Rosalina being a heavyweight in the Mario series is due to her unusually tall stature, and thus may not actually be physically heavy. Sakurai also mentioned she uses an antigravity effect which makes her lighter.
  • Mewtwo is lighter than most human characters the Super Smash Bros. series (being the same weight as Marth in the PAL version of Melee and Roy and Young Link in all versions), despite its Pokédex entry claiming it weighs 269.0 lbs (122.0 kg). In Super Smash Bros. 4 it is even lighter than Pikachu, which has a Pokédex weight of a mere 13.2 lbs (6.0 kg). Like Rosalina, this can be explained by its tendency to constantly float when in movement, which is explicitly mentioned by its Red Smash trophy in Melee. Its low weight could also be something of an exaggerated reference to its Defense stat being lower than that of most Legendary Pokémon in its home series. A third possibility is that the Pokédex entry is somehow erronious for similar reasons related to Mewtwo's psychic abilities influencing gravity.
  • Similarly, Pikachu is far heavier in Smash than its dimunitive Pokédex weight would have you assume, being on par with Fox and only one point lighter than Zero Suit Samus in SSB4.
• Even though they have a much younger appearance, Ness and Lucas are heavier than characters such as Marth and Palutena. The same could be applied with Villager, who is as heavy as Luigi.
• Jigglypuff is the lightest character in every Smash game except for Melee, where it is heavier than Pichu and is the same weight as Mr. Game & Watch.
  • Likewise, Bowser is the heaviest playable character in every game since his debut in Melee, with Donkey Kong being the heaviest in the original Super Smash Bros.
• A certain tip in Smash 4 erroneously states that Kirby is the third lightest character in the game, and Mr. Game and Watch is the second. While this was originally true, the addition of Mewtwo and Kirby's weight being changed makes this tip now incorrect.

References

• Brawl weight and falling speed calculations and explanation
• Brawl weight list and falling speed calculations
• Some character's weight with DI

http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-4-patch-notes.430023/

http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-5-patch-notes.433162/