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More Trophy Disscusions

So I just edited your page with trophy prices (hope that was correct) and realized that because it's not in a table it'll be really hard to upload to the trophy pages when it's done. So do you want to change it to a table, should I make a userpage with an example, or is there some protocol I'm not following. Just wondering. AmoongussForLife (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

The template used on the trophy pages has parameters for prices; at this point you might as well add new numbers directly there instead of gathering them on my page. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 22:29, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Okay, thank you. AmoongussForLife (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2015 (EDT)

I am assuming you just overlooked it

But could you look at this? Serpent∞King (talk) 06:14, 25 September 2015 (EDT)

If a user signs up with the name of a hated person...

Is it intolerable to pick a username of someone who is severely hated in real life? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 04:25, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

That's probably to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Toomai Glittershine The Interspacial 14:16, 29 September 2015 (EDT)

Heavy revisions of featured articles

In my spare time I am working on a revision of most stage pages, to give them a more uniform structure and prune unnecessary verbosity. The thing is, some of them are featured articles, but I do feel they sometimes need changes, ranging from a simple standardization to at times heavy reorganizations or rewrites: to give some examples, WarioWare's stage description includes stuff that should be in Origin, Castle Siege needs more details on the stage versions and likely a pruning of the Origin section, Temple and Halberd have somewhat awkward structures.

Exactly how much freedom do I have in revising them? For a reference on how I'm doing these (and I guess a general quality check of my work), you can check the ones I've marked as green in the full list on the page linked above. Thanks in advance. -Menshay (talk) 08:28, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

The answer to this I guess would require knowing how exactly we would go about "unfeaturing" an article should it dip below the quality marker, which we don't actually have right now. So I'm not really sure. In that sense, I suppose the only real limit would be "don't do anything that would make the page fail a hypothetical future feature nomination". Toomai Glittershine The Interspacial 14:16, 29 September 2015 (EDT)

Nyargleblargle's RfA

I feel like it has gone down for long enough. Since Miles is on the fence, it is up to you to make the decision. Ganonmew (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

For clarity, I can't resolve it regardless. Only a bureaucrat can do that. Miles (talk) 11:53, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

I just found out. Where is Toomai? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:04, 28 September 2015 (EDT)

Question:

Do you have plans to do directional c-stick icons for the GameCube controller like we did with the control stick? Serpent∞King (talk) 22:49, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

I believe I have all nine directions with optional "smash" starburst for all sticks of all controllers, ready for when they're needed. Toomai Glittershine El Pollo 10:19, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I was thinking of having a technique infobox template that would include a controller input field. Those would be ideal for that. Could you upload the rest? Serpent∞King (talk) 17:00, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Hmmm...I think I will upload the rest of them once I can get them all together, but I'm not sure about that purpose, since the concept of custom controls (and multiple controllers per game) wrecks it. Toomai Glittershine The Bold 10:27, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

I was just going to do their defaults. Also each controller handles more or less the same for each game, so I was just going to go by controller and note differences between games if there were any. Serpent∞King (talk) 01:48, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

That's kind of the secondary problem though. There's 7 different controllers that can be used with SSB4, which means that on a page like [pivot grab], we'd need 7 rows of icons in the infobox (one for each controller), and that right there is a mess. For what you're describing, just using words sounds much simpler. Toomai Glittershine The Golden 10:34, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Oh alright, just a thought. Serpent∞King (talk) 23:24, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

I would like your help please

I asked around and people told me to talk to you for this, but I've grown out of my Bulbaboy name, and I'd like to have it changed to my competitive Smash nickname Disaster Flare. Could you please do that whenever possible? Bulbaboy (talk) 18:02, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, ask again in a few days. Toomai Glittershine The Bold 10:27, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Okay, I believe it's been long enough, I'd like to confirm to have my name changed to Disaster Flare whenever possible. Bulbaboy (talk) 23:52, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

The Policy Proposals

Any verdict on those? Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 10:30, 5 October 2015 (EDT)

About this

What specifically counts as a "flame attack"? I'm just curious. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 11:48, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

I don't really remember. I think it was originally a joke about the internet term "flaming". Toomai Glittershine The Celeritous 09:21, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

I could imagine it would be somewhat similar to someone raging on the internet... Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:22, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

Just asking...

how does a bot such as eXemplary Logic work? I'm curious as to how an AI can work on the wiki. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 15:50, 13 October 2015 (EDT)

The basic idea is that I run a bunch of Python scripts, which know how to download and upload information from/to a wiki very similar to how a user on a web browser would. For example, a replace operation is "get all the pages with [XYZ] in them, change all the [XYZ] to [ABC], and save them back one by one". It's not actually an AI, that's just for flavour. Toomai Glittershine The Different 09:32, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

I would like to ask you a question.

I want to apply for rollback, but I can't because my iPad only holds 1 copy/paste at a time. (The linking method I wanna use requires copypasting.) INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 05:18, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Actually, I'm gonna make a user subpage to circumvent this. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 05:22, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

I also have a Request For Rollback waiting for a response. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 09:22, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Well my first reaction is, should you really be asking for rollback if you're not editing on a real computer? And my second reaction is "of course you can only hold one copy/paste at a time, that's how computers work". So yeah those might need to be considered as part of the later decision. Toomai Glittershine The Different 09:32, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

1. I use the desktop version of the website on my iPad. 2. OK then. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 09:34, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Anyways, that's not fair. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 09:37, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

I use an iPhone. Always have, always will. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 09:53, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Then how do you rollback on iphones? (I use an iPad on the desktop version) INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 09:56, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

It's the same as any device, it's listed as an option similar to undo. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 09:59, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Then how come Toomai is being device discriminative against me, but not you? INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 10:03, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

I didn't think it was necessary to mention, so I never brought it up. Actually, I may have mentioned it once, but only recently, after I became admin. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 10:06, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm missing the part where being on an iPad makes a difference. Serpent∞King (talk) 09:58, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

They have a slightly different feel, because it is a touchscreen rather than a full on desktop. Because of that, I make most of my major edits in pages then copy paste them. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 10:35, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Ok fine, but that should not make a difference in whether or not an RfR passes. Serpent∞King (talk) 10:51, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

To be clear, I do indeed think it is a not-insignificant disadvantage for anyone to be trying to do anything meaningful work with a wiki (or other text-heavy application) on a mobile device. I don't honestly think it's going to affect an RfX. My comment was more like "if you're having a problem with your mobile thing, why not just make that one edit on a computer?". Toomai Glittershine The Spark 23:41, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

Username change

I wanna change my username to PERIOD... —Preceding unsigned comment added by DOTS... (talk • contribs) 22:11 16 October 2015

Just so you know, you can go to SW:NAMECHANGE if you're confused, but you're doing the right thing. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 07:45, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

Hey

Is it alright if I reapply for rollback 5 days early? Last time, I honestly thought I had to give you all reversions of multiple consecutive edits. Now that I know that's not the case, I can definitely provide you with 3 counts of vandalism. Serpent∞King (talk) 12:24, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to see these first; I was notified about my mistakes when I first applied, and I'd like to help you to make sure you don't make the same mistakes. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:32, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Check skype then :) Serpent∞King (talk) 12:35, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

I'll get to it when I get the chance. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:38, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

You're mostly safe as of now. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 12:45, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

A few days early probably wouldn't hurt, since it's still a month after you initially made the first RfR, and the purpose of the month-delay rule is to ensure people don't just go again with the same flawed mentality. Toomai Glittershine The Engineer 19:25, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Alright then. Serpent∞King (talk) 19:35, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

I applied. Serpent∞King (talk) 20:46, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

I need some help.

I need an image (gif, more accurately) of the data for Ganondorf's back aerial in Melee. However, I do not know how to upload an image. Can you help me with it? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 16:52, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Minor edit

My bad. I'll provide more detailed explanations whenever I make noticeable edits. 173.171.34.25 19:36, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Just a heads-up.

Two more RfAs and an RfR that need to be sorted out. More importantly the latter, since the former started today. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:47, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, both Serpent and I applied for rollback. Disaster Flare (talk) 20:48, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

No need to rush him though. Serpent∞King (talk) 20:50, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah you're right. Disaster Flare (talk) 20:50, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

True, but I'm simply reminding Toomai that there are things to sort out while he's on. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:53, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

This is getting too ridiculous to ignore.

We have just fought 3 vandals in a single night. I personally feel like I cannot go to sleep, lest we get attacked again. There has to be something we can do to curve this sudden influx of vandalism. I understand that our options are limited, but... to start with, it has been suggested that we bump up page creation to auto confirm. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Serpent∞King (talk) 05:01, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

And I fought in the lattermost one with rollback. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 05:19, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

My thoughts? Vandalism comes and goes, just like activity in general. Page-creation vandalism is arguably less damaging than page-defacing vandalism. No wiki is important enough that you should feel obligated to skip sleep for it. Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 08:34, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

The worst that might happen is that we get DDOS attacked. :P Dots (talk) The Quake 08:48, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

What's that? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 08:58, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Essentially an attack that blocks internet users from entering the attacked website. Smashboards and Smogon had this attack before in the summer of 2013. Dots (talk) The Goldfinger 09:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

And that's what someone like Porplemontage would be for, right? Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:13, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

That's a scary thought. Which is why my support for Aidan's RfA is even stronger. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:15, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

If we had another admin for every vandal attack we had, we'd have every member of this wiki from just TB. Wow, ironic intials... ScoreCounter 09:19, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Uh..what's TB again? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:38, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

What I'm guessing there is Tommy Barnes, a vandal that vandalized this wiki dozens of times. Dots (talk) The Saiyan 09:47, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Is he infinitely superblocked? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:51, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

He was blocked so many fucking times though. Dots (talk) The Dandy 09:53, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) I'm curious as to why ScoreCounter made the comment about the "ironic initials"... Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:56, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Whoops, looks like I wasn't suppose to mention him either? Sorry that I had to explain the initial. Dots (talk) The Keyboard 09:57, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

That didn't answer my question. Is he able to make another account? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 10:00, 23 October 2015 (EDT).

Wouldn't be the first time he's done it. Disaster Flare (talk) 10:06, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Who are you talking about? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 10:08, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Tommy, or maybe I'm thinking of that tourney guy, I don't remember right now, I just woke up. Disaster Flare (talk) 10:09, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

@ Aidan: Well, he was about as much fun to deal with as a lung disease. Yeah, slightly off-colour joke, but we all make 'em occasionally. The point I'm making is that if we appointed another admin every time we got a bad vanadal attack, not only is it a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but that could make things worse. Like an overtightened plaster.ScoreCounter 10:28, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm not saying every time, but this time it looks like 1 admin isn't enough. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 10:31, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Just saying, don't we have a failed policy or two that we could try to make a semi-implementation? What do you think? Should we try a version 3 of this? DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 10:38, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

...oh shit, that's right. That could totally be a thing for people who solely want to deal with vandalism to use. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 10:40, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah. Rollback can only do so much... INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 10:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Well, also, we could combine something like that with a "Suspended" usergroup, yanno, like a half-block tool. Then again, that could also make life too complex... Which was the problem many people had with the original...ScoreCounter 10:44, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

So should I try to fuse the two and edit it to create a third version. Okay, see you when I make a draft. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 10:45, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I created a draft on my computer. Where do I put it up, because I want it to be in the correct spot. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 13:40, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Y'know, less than a few months ago, we would just silently deal with the vandalism instead of making these massive walls on discussion pages complaining about the vandalism. It really feels like everyone's acting like this a far bigger deal than it is. Toomai Glittershine The Spectrum 14:46, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I agree Toomai, I've been trying my best to quietly deal with the vandals, but sometimes this happens. On behalf of everyone, apologies. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Two things. 1. We are definitely overreacting to the vandalism 2. I put up a draft for a Junior Admin position, feel free to comment and help before I actually put it forward as a possible policy. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 16:48, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

draft for a Junior Admin policy help

I am currently making a draft for creating a Junior Admin policy, and I have some questions I need answered, most of which pertain to admin rights.

I have no idea what half of your permissions mean, and those are the majority of my questions. The rest should be self explanatory.

• Allowed to use web chat (webchat)
  • What is webchat used for?
• Block a username, hiding it from the public (hideuser)
• Bypass IP blocks, auto-blocks and range blocks (ipblock-exempt)
• Bypass automatic blocks of proxies (proxyunbannable)
• Edit cascade-protected pages (protect)
  • What are cascade-protected pages?
• Create new user accounts (createaccount)
  • Don't you already have admin accounts?
• Delete and undelete specific log entries (deletelogentry)
• Delete and undelete specific revisions of pages (deleterevision)
• Delete pages with large histories (bigdelete)
  • What counts as a large history?
• Edit the user interface (editinterface)
• Have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled (autopatrol)
• Import pages from a file upload (importupload)
• Import pages from other wikis (import)
• Mark others' edits as patrolled (patrol)
• Move root user pages (move-rootuserpages)
  • What is a root user page?
• Not be affected by rate limits (noratelimit)
• Override files on the shared media repository locally (reupload-shared)
• Override the title or username blacklist (tboverride)
• Perform CAPTCHA-triggering actions without having to go through the CAPTCHA (skipcaptcha)
  • What auto confirmed actions trigger CAPTCHA?
• Search deleted pages (browsearchive)
• Undelete a page (undelete)
• Use higher limits in API queries (apihighlimits)
• View a list of unwatched pages (unwatchedpages)
• View deleted history entries, without their associated text (deletedhistory)
• View deleted text and changes between deleted revisions (deletedtext)
• View the spam blacklist log (spamblacklistlog)

Can you please answer these questions so I can refine the draft? Thanks. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 20:39, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Completely disregard this, I found all the info I needed here. Sorry for the clutter, added collapse to help fix it. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 00:15, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

Fun fact

SmashWiki is the best, Team Fortress Wiki is the WORST (go to hell, admin bastards on the latter wiki). - Drilly the Hedgehog 00:21, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

I appreciate your enthusiasm about the wiki, but I don't understand why you're going around announcing this. XD Disaster Flare (talk) 15:13, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

Because I hate the Team Fortress Wiki. The admins there are complete assholes. - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:19, 25 October 2015 (EDT)

He got banned. I looked. XD Serpent∞King (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2015 (EDT)

Who? - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:24, 25 October 2015 (EDT)

You. On TF Wiki Serpent∞King (talk) 01:26, 25 October 2015 (EDT)

No, not that wiki. This one. Also, that's not even funny. I don't give a fuck about the Wikia staff. - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:28, 25 October 2015 (EDT)